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Title: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Wreet on Aug 02, 2017, 02:50 AM
TalonRO is this incredibly big, helpful and friendly community, which is willing to help you wherever you go. This is a very important aspect, if not the most, when talking about a highly social game like Ragnarok. The Discord channel is full of life and enhances even more the social experience. Furthermore, you can use discord to chat directly with the GMs, which is also important to note.

PvM is very extensive and well established, with a lot of different alternatives between custom and official dungeons and mobs. There are also daily and monthly events which always keeps you entertained.

One thing I don't like is the customization or nerfing of some items. In my view, these items makes official PvM much easier and on the other hand changes the meta of Ragnarok very strongly. They did this for what they consider to be rebalancing and there are many people who like it so I won't put it in the cons but it's necesary to note this in case you're thinking of joining the server.

Starting with the cons, the main and most important of them, is that PvP is dead. Its necesary to say that there is two modes, Vanilla and Unrestricted (which allows you to use those custom items I talked about before). This just splits players into two modes which affects the total amount of people playing each one. Even though, the most popular mode nowadays, Vanilla WoE, has just 3 guilds actively competing for the castles. This is a crime in a server which averages 1400+ players online. So, if you're interested mainly in PvP, this is not the server you're looking for. They really must work harder to improve this aspect as the main downside of the server.

Another con is the donation thing. Everything, and if not everything, almost, can be obtained donating. It's compulsory to say that you can get EVERYTHING by grinding, so is not a pay to win server, but it certainly nerfs one of the main aspects of Ragnarok, the before named grinding. This also leads to an extremely controlled economy which is more or less dominated by donation coins price which could be good in a way but it certainly looks artificial with no variation of prices depending on the usage/quantity of the items in the game. This tendency also leads to  Grinding money > Grinding items, which cuts hard the farming thing.

To sum up, PvM = 10/10, PvP = 3/10, Economy = 6/10, Social aspect = 10/10. It deserves a try, I personally like it due to social aspect, but it requires a lot of hard work to improve the PvP scene.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Aug 02, 2017, 07:07 AM
QuoteThey really must work harder to improve this aspect as the main downside of the server.

Doing this whole thing in my freetime I cannot work harder on PvP than on my RL job for instance. However, we are working actively on PvP already. You might have noticed the PvP events that popped up during the last weeks for example.


QuoteAnother con is the donation thing. Everything, and if not everything, almost, can be obtained donating.

None of the high-end items ban be obtained through donating. Neither our SQIs, nor other high-end items. New episode items are not added to the donation shop either.


QuoteThis also leads to an extremely controlled economy which is more or less dominated by donation coins price which could be good in a way.

This acxtually helped to keep our economy stable for the last 10 years, so the pros outweigh the cons by far on this one.


Thanks for your honest review, I appreciate the feedback!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Styx on Sep 02, 2017, 05:14 PM
Well, he means Boreas, that a good and smart player can get anything with donations, regardless if it is directly in available there or not. I am surprised though you still need a job beside this server it shouldn't be an obligation but rather a choice you make. True is that your server is better in prospects then any other so called trash not P2W server around which exist for 99% out of lowlife 3thparty users with no dime to spend at all except the stolen credit card they can get their hands on.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Xebrios on Sep 08, 2017, 10:58 AM
https://imgur.com/a/bXI2N great staff on hand, very professional responses as well... Glad I didnt donate.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Sep 10, 2017, 02:38 PM
I do think it's very professional to enforce our server rules. Not sure what unprofessional about our responses. You asked why you couldn't donate, I told you that you were banned for having more than one forum account. Then you submitted a ticket and asked if we could delete your forum accounts and I responded with "nope". Sure, I could have written a 20 lines paragraph instead, but it would always come down to "nope, not gonna delete your accounts as we need them for our punishment history". Anyway, better spend your money on a server that does not care about its rules.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Xebrios on Sep 11, 2017, 03:28 AM
No but you would rather come to forums and write a "20 paragraph answer" instead of simply telling me " Sorry, it is against the rules to have multiple accounts, I am going to have to ban those account's and then your free to start over, don't let it happen again" anyways, enjoy your day job because your  private ragnarok server is never going to pay your bills with customer support as shown above. Thanks for the response and to further extrapolate on my point!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: RistrettoJoe on Sep 11, 2017, 10:56 AM
Quote from: Xebrios on Sep 11, 2017, 03:28 AM
No but you would rather come to forums and write a "20 paragraph answer" instead of simply telling me " Sorry, it is against the rules to have multiple accounts, I am going to have to ban those account's and then your free to start over, don't let it happen again" anyways, enjoy your day job because your  private ragnarok server is never going to pay your bills with customer support as shown above. Thanks for the response and to further extrapolate on my point!
I don't care how people will reply whether it is with an accusatory tone, without the words "sorry", or without explanations because when you are only reading, it will be difficult to input the emotions as compared to when you're actually talking in real life.

But the guy does have a point.

How petty it is to get banned for having more than 1 forum account. Oh, you might say "Rules are rules". That's understandable. However, can't you forgive the person?
He misunderstood the rules.
He also said "feel free to delete the forum accounts".
He even apologized.
(The fact that he wanted to donate is a bonus)
Then you might reiterate, "the law maybe harsh but it is the law"
Then I'll leave it there, I can't do anything about it.

Whatever. Though, it's kinda funny how the GM is now eager to type paragraphs just to defend the server. Hey GM, don't worry about this guy. If your server is really good, good testimonials will overcome the bad ones  /no1  /ok
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Sep 11, 2017, 11:26 AM
QuoteHow petty it is to get banned for having more than 1 forum account. Oh, you might say "Rules are rules". That's understandable. However, can't you forgive the person?
If we forgive one person then we have to forgive every person. If we don't then that would be unfair and you will soon find a post on RMS about that. Lol

QuoteHe misunderstood the rules.
Not understanding rules and laws does not mean you are allowed to break them. Oo

QuoteHe also said "feel free to delete the forum accounts".
Your point? He can register a new account and start over, we just don't delete accounts for the reason I listed above.

QuoteHe even apologized.
"Sorry man, I shot your dog."

Quote(The fact that he wanted to donate is a bonus)
Not at all. Donators get no special treatment.

QuoteWhatever. Though, it's kinda funny how the GM is now eager to type paragraphs just to defend the server. Hey GM, don't worry about this guy. If your server is really good, good testimonials will overcome the bad ones
So when someone posts a rage review because he got banned then that's okay, but if I defend myself (not even the server in this case) it's not? Weird logic you have there good sir.

Quoteanyways, enjoy your day job because your  private ragnarok server is never going to pay your bills with customer support as shown above. Thanks for the response and to further extrapolate on my point!
Just shows what kind of person you are: "QQ, I got banned, you suck, your server sucks, go die in a corner". Pathetic. Good luck on your next server~
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: RistrettoJoe on Sep 11, 2017, 08:12 PM
 /ok

As I have already said, I can't do anything about your rules.


"Your point? He can register a new account and start over, we just don't delete accounts for the reason I listed above."
Relating on the circumstances, my point is he wanted to correct his mistake. The mistake being the fact that he forgot his forum user&pass and decided to make another maybe because he can't retrieve the old ones. And you wouldn't give him that opportunity. I'm pretty sure he wont register new accounts and start over if he was sincere on his apology.

"Sorry man, I shot your dog."
Sorry man, I created more than one forum account *banned*

"So when someone posts a rage review because he got banned then that's okay, but if I defend myself (not even the server in this case) it's not? Weird logic you have there good sir."
Is his review a rage review though?
I simply said it was funny.

(The fact that he wanted to donate is JUST a bonus - no impact)
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: IvoryMouse on Sep 14, 2017, 02:50 PM
Quote from: Boreas on Sep 10, 2017, 02:38 PM
I do think it's very professional to enforce our server rules. Not sure what unprofessional about our responses. You asked why you couldn't donate, I told you that you were banned for having more than one forum account. Then you submitted a ticket and asked if we could delete your forum accounts and I responded with "nope". Sure, I could have written a 20 lines paragraph instead, but it would always come down to "nope, not gonna delete your accounts as we need them for our punishment history". Anyway, better spend your money on a server that does not care about its rules.

There's being professional, then over enforcement. You're employing over-enforcement for a simple mistake. He made a second forum account. Do you not have Email Recovery/Password Recovery options? Since from the looks of it in this thread that should've been an option for him. Instead you demonize him for making a second account and he had plans to donate, which would've helped you. But instead you chose to burn a bridge for a potential player who probably would've told his friends about the server.

In short, you failed to stay professional and resorted to abuse of power/authority in order to make your point clear. You show no sympathy in the least bit. The man apologized and tried to make a compromise in which you shot down in the form of two letter. "No." so let this be an example to the future players of RO. This is the kind of thing we deal with on the daily basis. If you are going to treat your players this way, then by all means continue to do so. I'm sure when the time comes and the money runs dry you're going to wish you actually turned a blind eye for once.

Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Cressy on Sep 14, 2017, 06:33 PM
Quote from: IvoryMouse on Sep 14, 2017, 02:50 PM
There's being professional, then over enforcement. You're employing over-enforcement for a simple mistake. He made a second forum account. Do you not have Email Recovery/Password Recovery options? Since from the looks of it in this thread that should've been an option for him. Instead you demonize him for making a second account and he had plans to donate, which would've helped you. But instead you chose to burn a bridge for a potential player who probably would've told his friends about the server.

In short, you failed to stay professional and resorted to abuse of power/authority in order to make your point clear. You show no sympathy in the least bit. The man apologized and tried to make a compromise in which you shot down in the form of two letter. "No." so let this be an example to the future players of RO. This is the kind of thing we deal with on the daily basis. If you are going to treat your players this way, then by all means continue to do so. I'm sure when the time comes and the money runs dry you're going to wish you actually turned a blind eye for once.

There's definitely a password recovery button.
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But gosh, if only there were some warning, something that told you in no uncertain terms that making a second forum account could get you banned...
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In addition, if for whatever reason you can't access your original master account, make a support ticket? Make a new one, then you just open a ticket explaining what happened, problem solved. Trying to explain it after you've been banned... that's a bit of too little too late in my opinion.
Frankly I'm so damn happy that GMs on Talon don't "turn a blind eye" they have set rules and each player is expected to follow them the same way or EACH player will be punished the same way. There's no favourites, there's no "oh but they're gonna donate", there's the rules, and you follow them. Or if you don't want to, I guess you go somewhere else, which sounds like a solid plan to me.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Delta on Oct 17, 2017, 10:46 AM
The mod sounds like a pretentious teen, the way they handled the issue is completely disrespectful and out of place. I came here looking for opinions about this server, because I considered joining and this thing I see here is absolutely off-putting. Thanks Xebrios for bringing this up!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Oct 17, 2017, 10:57 AM
And you dodged all the positive opinions for this "negative" one? Good luck finding a server that's more to your liking then! (And doesn't enforce its rules obviously.)
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Delta on Oct 20, 2017, 09:57 AM
Positive opinions are written by people who want their points or rewards for writting them, you will find the very same positive opinions about any server there is. It's the ones from people who have concerns that give you the actual idea about the server's issues. More importantly though it is specifically your own attitude right here and the idea of how to treat your players and potential customers, that is the most off putting factor, being the first impression and casting a long shadow on how I perceive your staff and the way you hand your issues. I imagine you spend your time in some closed circle of people among whom this kind of behavior is acceptable and possibly cool, but for a person from the outside who doesn't care about such things and who is used to certain levels of maturity and professionalism, this here is a highschool tier of I don't even know what this is, being edgy? Just dumbly stubborn because you think that makes you look serious and professional? Too full of yourself because you are someone on a retro video game server and it gives you a twisted sense of power? I don't know, but you get it all wrong and I understand RO servers have no people responsible for PR and most of the staff are teens doing stuff because they want recognition, but some good person should suggest you some change of attitude if they cared about you and the image of your server. Or at least stop you from posting where people can see it.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Oct 20, 2017, 02:31 PM
QuotePositive opinions are written by people who want their points or rewards for writting them, you will find the very same positive opinions about any server there is.

You are not allowed to hand out rewards for positive reviews. Barely anybody uses their game nickname, how would we even know who submitted the reviews? It's actually a fact that people in general tend to give negative feedback more frequently than positive one.

QuoteIt's the ones from people who have concerns that give you the actual idea about the server's issues. More importantly though it is specifically your own attitude right here and the idea of how to treat your players and potential customers, that is the most off putting factor, being the first impression and casting a long shadow on how I perceive your staff and the way you hand your issues. I imagine you spend your time in some closed circle of people among whom this kind of behavior is acceptable and possibly cool, but for a person from the outside who doesn't care about such things and who is used to certain levels of maturity and professionalism, this here is a highschool tier of I don't even know what this is, being edgy? Just dumbly stubborn because you think that makes you look serious and professional? Too full of yourself because you are someone on a retro video game server and it gives you a twisted sense of power? I don't know, but you get it all wrong and I understand RO servers have no people responsible for PR and most of the staff are teens doing stuff because they want recognition, but some good person should suggest you some change of attitude if they cared about you and the image of your server. Or at least stop you from posting where people can see it.

While I appreciate your feedback I beg to differ on quite some points. First of all, people who get banned for breaking the server rules tend to drop a negative review simply to lower the reputation of the server. Pretty much what happened here. You saw a support ticket from a person who willingly broke the server rules which he accepted upon registration. I admit that my tone my be rough, but it's not unprofessional, I am not a teen and I don't see what majurity got to do with any of this. If you are short on arguments then please refrain from jumping to personal insults because that doesn't make you look any better.

Let's be real for a second, most if not all rant threads on RMS are posted by players who had a bad experience with the staff. If you look at those cases more carefully tho then you will notice that in at least 90% the player broke the rules or acted in a way that he came up as a trouble maker in some way. While the reaction to that may be a bit off in some cases, I would bet my left ball sack that in pretty much all of these cases the player deserved what he got and simply wants to lower the reputation of the server by brining it up. Of course I am not saying that all threads follow that logic, some of them,. especially when it comes to corruption and bias may be valid. I am also not trying to defend GMs who simply act retarded, hand out free items to players or ban them because they said "noob" in-game. I am more talking about the cases in which people botted and then claimed that they only got banned because the GM could not stand them. Or that they got banned because they traded an item while in fact they were selling items for money. (Check the other ticket about TalonRO in rant&rave)

tl;dr: Just because someone breaks the rules and doesn't get a good-bye kiss on their ban does not mean that the GMs don't act professional. If you come at me with a legit concern then I am more than willing to help you out in every possible way. However, if you break the server rules and cheat on the community then you do not deserve to be spoon fed with kisses and hugs. Simple as that. Oh and on the attitude part, please refrain from jumping to personal insults next time. I am not a teenager, I don't act like one and I also don't live in a circle of people who tolerate whatever bahavior you are trying to point out here. Thank you for your time!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Daifuku. on Oct 20, 2017, 04:32 PM
Quote from: Boreas on Oct 20, 2017, 02:31 PM
Let's be real for a second, most if not all rant threads on RMS are posted by players who had a bad experience with the staff. If you look at those cases more carefully tho then you will notice that in at least 90% the player broke the rules or acted in a way that he came up as a trouble maker in some way. While the reaction to that may be a bit off in some cases, I would bet my left ball sack that in pretty much all of these cases the player deserved what he got and simply wants to lower the reputation of the server by brining it up.

Chapeau to Boreas for these words. I can only agree.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Styx on Oct 31, 2017, 05:48 PM
Being one of the 10%, I agree with this. You don't have to like a server, they just serve a present demand from players. If you break a rule, it doesn't matter if it was a mistake, act adult, face the consequences and certainly don't try to throw in money to buy your way out. I am a donator and you don't do such things ever, you don't even want it would be possible for someone to make this link. You donate if you find entertainment for playing and otherwise you just don't. You can't win anything at all, there is no such thing as P2W, because there isn't anything to win at all beside entertainment. it is all a big illusion between your own ears. In a few decades from now nobody will ever remember you did exist anyway, so what is the big deal? Just make another account as offered.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Jorn11 on Nov 08, 2017, 04:43 AM
Dude Don't waste your time in this server I used to play this server but due to unfair decisions of gm and unnecessary attitude I just left it.Also even if you play Be carefull there is one Whore who's name is cherri I was selling item worth 80mil guy offered me 20mil I refused he said mean word in on I trolled him in main and my acc permanent ban lol just because that guy was Friend of Gm Cherri so its better not to waste your time where gms doing partiality I dont know why bores hires that whore Gm Cherri bores takes some actions quick against such Gms who misusing gm power or RIP Talonro
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: SukiChii on Nov 08, 2017, 06:36 AM
One post is enough man. Good God.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Yurneric on Nov 08, 2017, 07:23 AM
Quote from: Jorn11 on Nov 08, 2017, 04:43 AM
Dude Don't waste your time in this server I used to play this server but due to unfair decisions of gm and unnecessary attitude I just left it.Also even if you play Be carefull there is one Whore who's name is cherri I was selling item worth 80mil guy offered me 20mil I refused he said mean word in on I trolled him in main and my acc permanent ban lol just because that guy was Friend of Gm Cherri so its better not to waste your time where gms doing partiality I dont know why bores hires that whore Gm Cherri bores takes some actions quick against such Gms who misusing gm power or RIP Talonro

^ This testifies this:

Quote from: Boreas on Oct 20, 2017, 02:31 PM
First of all, people who get banned for breaking the server rules tend to drop a negative review simply to lower the reputation of the server. Pretty much what happened here. You saw a support ticket from a person who willingly broke the server rules which he accepted upon registration. I admit that my tone my be rough, but it's not unprofessional, I am not a teen and I don't see what majurity got to do with any of this. If you are short on arguments then please refrain from jumping to personal insults because that doesn't make you look any better.

Let's be real for a second, most if not all rant threads on RMS are posted by players who had a bad experience with the staff. If you look at those cases more carefully tho then you will notice that in at least 90% the player broke the rules or acted in a way that he came up as a trouble maker in some way. While the reaction to that may be a bit off in some cases, I would bet my left ball sack that in pretty much all of these cases the player deserved what he got and simply wants to lower the reputation of the server by brining it up. Of course I am not saying that all threads follow that logic, some of them,. especially when it comes to corruption and bias may be valid. I am also not trying to defend GMs who simply act retarded, hand out free items to players or ban them because they said "noob" in-game. I am more talking about the cases in which people botted and then claimed that they only got banned because the GM could not stand them. Or that they got banned because they traded an item while in fact they were selling items for money. (Check the other ticket about TalonRO in rant&rave)
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Charity Case on Nov 08, 2017, 09:55 AM
Its getting a bit odd with all these talonro rant posts here every month or two.It must all be false amiright?
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Nov 08, 2017, 10:59 AM
Quote from: Charity Case on Nov 08, 2017, 09:55 AM
Its getting a bit odd with all these talonro rant posts here every month or two.It must all be false amiright?

Read my post and you will understand. TalonRO is a big server, people get banned, people QQ about non-sense topics. The most recent one is a good example. GM Cherri is apparently friends with people and banned someone while in fact he flamed and harassed multiple players on our global chat channel. Hop on Amazon and read the negative reviews under some products, same thing.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: blame20 on Nov 08, 2017, 11:07 AM
I am not banned but my experience is that there is/are loyal, veteran, influential and popular player(s) in the server that have a bad attitude. Instead of giving solutions to a suggestion. He tend to give a feedback of "You failed at this, you also fail to, etc." demoralizing, demotivating, discouraging a player's rational suggestion. Of course players will be on this guy's side because he is popular(influential). I'm currently inactive in this server and I had to stop making suggestions and "go with the flow". There's no point on potential and rational suggestions for the economy of this server if you're not popular and you don't have a big amount of community reputation(similar to number of likes in facebook but it is focused on your forum profile). And  I'm curious why they had to implement something like a slot machine over other meaningful suggestions? For me, it's not about the staff. I'm just curious if one of those rude players are non-gm account(s) of one of the GMs? That I do not know. Well, It doesn't matter if I play TRO or not because of the players, I'm insignificant to the population of the server and there are a lot of new ones comin' in the server.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Nov 08, 2017, 11:22 AM
Quote from: blame20 on Nov 08, 2017, 11:07 AM
I am not banned but my experience is that there is/are loyal, veteran, influential and popular player(s) in the server that have a bad attitude. Instead of giving solutions to a suggestion. He tend to give a feedback of "You failed at this, you also fail to, etc." demoralizing, demotivating, discouraging a player's rational suggestion. Of course players will be on this guy's side because he is popular(influential). I'm currently inactive in this server and I had to stop making suggestions and "go with the flow". There's no point on potential and rational suggestions for the economy of this server if you're not popular and you don't have a big amount of community reputation(similar to number of likes in facebook but it is focused on your forum profile). And  I'm curious why they had to implement something like a slot machine over other meaningful suggestions? For me, it's not about the staff. I'm just curious if one of those rude players are non-gm account(s) of one of the GMs? That I do not know. Well, It doesn't matter if I play TRO or not because of the players, I'm insignificant to the population of the server and there are a lot of new ones comin' in the server.

That statement in itself is just untrue. All suggestions run over my table and I personally do not care about the fame rate of the person who comes up with them. Mostly because I interact with so many different players through support tickers every day that there is no way to have favorits. The reaosn why some suggestions are implemnennted faster than other sis because it's actually fun to work on them, hence I work on those first. Plain and simple. As for "GMs disguising as rude players", no comment, really. Not sure where you got that idea from, but it simply shows how little you know about my staff. None of them run around and fllame players or else I would kick them right away.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: TemptingIcarus on Nov 11, 2017, 12:42 AM
Spending about five minutes in their Discord. The community comes off as an echo-chamber type server. Where if you don't think the way they do, they push you out and don't invite you into their collective clique. I haven't even bothered downloading their server after that encounter. The playerbase in the Discord alone shouldn't dictate how a server is, but god damn are they hostile to new faces. Calling a new person a whiner, asking if they wanted to pamper me with attention to make me feel better. Lol. No wonder it gets bad reviews. It's not the server that's bad, it's the players. I'd humor you with the logs, but I'm not going to stoop so low as to draw out an argument. If you're looking for a server, I'd suggest you skip over this one as the community isn't all too nice to new faces.


If you wish to challenge me with your logic, by all means go ahead. I will have fun ripping you apart.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 11, 2017, 04:33 AM
Quote from: TemptingIcarus on Nov 11, 2017, 12:42 AM
Spending about five minutes in their Discord. The community comes off as an echo-chamber type server. Where if you don't think the way they do, they push you out and don't invite you into their collective clique. I haven't even bothered downloading their server after that encounter. The playerbase in the Discord alone shouldn't dictate how a server is, but god damn are they hostile to new faces. Calling a new person a whiner, asking if they wanted to pamper me with attention to make me feel better. Lol. No wonder it gets bad reviews. It's not the server that's bad, it's the players. I'd humor you with the logs, but I'm not going to stoop so low as to draw out an argument. If you're looking for a server, I'd suggest you skip over this one as the community isn't all too nice to new faces.


If you wish to challenge me with your logic, by all means go ahead. I will have fun ripping you apart.


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🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:21 AM
So this is the famous TalonRO?
Hot Grill - Today at 6:23 AM
Famous?
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:26 AM
You guys have a reputation on the forums for having bias/abusive GM's from your community. But then again your community (from the looks of it) have people who can't speak a lick of f*** English.
So I digress.
Naght - Today at 6:27 AM
Ok.
Frostheart - Today at 6:28 AM
Here is the show. :popcorn:
Naght - Today at 6:28 AM
Omg u summoned the best Harem Champ in the server
@Frostheart
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:28 AM
Oh. No show from me. I haven't played nor touched this server.
Actually. I lied.
Naght - Today at 6:29 AM
Ok.
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:29 AM
Is this the remake of ScytheRO?
Or am I thinking of something else?
Onionflux - Today at 6:29 AM
Pass the popcorn @Frostheart
Naght - Today at 6:29 AM
Oops crappy net
Hey @Onionflux go study
Be a good son
Onionflux - Today at 6:30 AM
No u
Long weekend bruh
Naght - Today at 6:30 AM
Long weekend = best time to study
Onionflux - Today at 6:31 AM
Lemme play all day until i drop
Naght - Today at 6:31 AM
Nu.
Onionflux - Today at 6:31 AM
Im a neet anyway :^)
Naght - Today at 6:31 AM
@Vivi , spank ur kid
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:31 AM
Well then.
Anyone else?
Naght - Today at 6:33 AM
Hmm wat do u want? U already have ur view about the server
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:33 AM
Not really.
Tainaka Ritsu - Today at 6:33 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
throws a bag of attention
Crono - Today at 6:33 AM
Go play maple. It suits you more
Grabs popcorn"
Naght - Today at 6:34 AM
Do u want us to pamper u so u get a better view?
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:34 AM
Not really. But the way you guys are acting, I got a pretty good idea what I am in for, so take it easy and stay frosty. Sorry I'm not apart of your potential clique. o7
Frostheart - Today at 6:34 AM
:GWfroggyThink:
Onionflux - Today at 6:35 AM
:GWlgbtqpBlobsweat:
🍿1
Tainaka Ritsu - Today at 6:35 AM
whiners are not really welcomed anywhere
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
🦃 TemptingIcarus 🦃 - Today at 6:35 AM
Anyways. Take care.

tl;dr:
"your server seems to have biased GMs and your community can't f*** speak English"
"Okay."
"omg why won't you love me?! *rant on RMS*"
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Joan on Nov 11, 2017, 04:34 AM
Quote from: TemptingIcarus on Nov 11, 2017, 12:42 AM
Spending about five minutes in their Discord. The community comes off as an echo-chamber type server. Where if you don't think the way they do, they push you out and don't invite you into their collective clique. I haven't even bothered downloading their server after that encounter. The playerbase in the Discord alone shouldn't dictate how a server is, but god damn are they hostile to new faces. Calling a new person a whiner, asking if they wanted to pamper me with attention to make me feel better. Lol. No wonder it gets bad reviews. It's not the server that's bad, it's the players. I'd humor you with the logs, but I'm not going to stoop so low as to draw out an argument. If you're looking for a server, I'd suggest you skip over this one as the community isn't all too nice to new faces.


If you wish to challenge me with your logic, by all means go ahead. I will have fun ripping you apart.



Sorry good sir, but I must call bull here, even though I wasn't part of the conversation, I did read it.

You went to the TalonRO Discord server and this is how you introduced yourself: https://i.imgur.com/fiOgtpn.png (https://i.imgur.com/fiOgtpn.png)

You went there with the intention of irking people and get negative reactions, you harassed everyone there while they tried their best to ignore your offenses, you then proceed to come here and claim that the community isn't newbie friendly, when in fact, it is extremely newbie friendly, you just failed at the most basic of social interaction unwritten rules: Don't be an a****** from second 1.

I'm going to add the community actually reacted much better than I would have to the stuff you said, I was shocked by how polite and cool they remained despite your provocations.


Here's your entire interaction within the server, from your first message to your last message, not a single line of text was skipped:

https://i.imgur.com/0BZWiaT.png (https://i.imgur.com/0BZWiaT.png)
https://i.imgur.com/zFEu4a9.png (https://i.imgur.com/zFEu4a9.png)
https://i.imgur.com/b5eECNo.png (https://i.imgur.com/b5eECNo.png)
https://i.imgur.com/0bNs0cc.png (https://i.imgur.com/0bNs0cc.png)
https://i.imgur.com/tRWEjBC.png (https://i.imgur.com/tRWEjBC.png)

Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Nov 11, 2017, 11:20 AM
QuoteIf you wish to challenge me with your logic, by all means go ahead. I will have fun ripping you apart.

Please do sir, I cannot wait to read that argument of yours. If you don't mind then also comment on what DeePee and Joan said, thanks!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: TemptingIcarus on Nov 12, 2017, 01:50 AM
Quote from: Joan on Nov 11, 2017, 04:34 AM

Sorry good sir, but I must call bull here, even though I wasn't part of the conversation, I did read it.

You went to the TalonRO Discord server and this is how you introduced yourself: https://i.imgur.com/fiOgtpn.png (https://i.imgur.com/fiOgtpn.png)

You went there with the intention of irking people and get negative reactions, you harassed everyone there while they tried their best to ignore your offenses, you then proceed to come here and claim that the community isn't newbie friendly, when in fact, it is extremely newbie friendly, you just failed at the most basic of social interaction unwritten rules: Don't be an a****** from second 1.

I'm going to add the community actually reacted much better than I would have to the stuff you said, I was shocked by how polite and cool they remained despite your provocations.


Here's your entire interaction within the server, from your first message to your last message, not a single line of text was skipped:

https://i.imgur.com/0BZWiaT.png (https://i.imgur.com/0BZWiaT.png)
https://i.imgur.com/zFEu4a9.png (https://i.imgur.com/zFEu4a9.png)
https://i.imgur.com/b5eECNo.png (https://i.imgur.com/b5eECNo.png)
https://i.imgur.com/0bNs0cc.png (https://i.imgur.com/0bNs0cc.png)
https://i.imgur.com/tRWEjBC.png (https://i.imgur.com/tRWEjBC.png)

Openly giving someone else's criticism is harassment these days? Sorry if I hurt your feelings and invaded your "Safe Space" Discord. Sorry I don't attribute to the overall hivemind mentality your Discord holds. You guys have a reputation and I wanted to see if it was true or not. Regardless of the screenshots, yeah I said those things and I will gladly own up to it. If you guys didn't have anything to be defensive about you would've laughed it off and kept it moving. But instead you guys became instantly hostile towards me when I was simply poking my head in and overall trying to check out the situation. I mean you guys are being chewed out currently by someone who can't even speak English in another thread. Let alone by me who didn't even want to take the time of day to actually login given the hostile responses I received on the Discord.

As for my first comment, as I said before, you have people who can't speak a lick of English who are trying to flush your reputation down the toilet and quite honestly I don't know who to believe, you or the poor sod who is trying to drop the server's community into the burning pile that is already dead communities across the hundreds of servers we have now. - http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/do-not-waste-your-time-on-talonro/msg192784/#new (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/do-not-waste-your-time-on-talonro/msg192784/#new)

So please friend, tell me who is more in the wrong here for asking and snooping for information. You made the choice to take my words to heart and take them seriously. This is the internet, but at the same time, people need to understand there is a level of civil tolerance that is to be expected from some people. If you guys don't have that kind of tolerance then I'm sorry to say that I sadly won't be playing and granted, that music to some of you, but it comes at the cost of a missed opportunity to make a friend who could've possibly spread the word to their network of friends to join and possibly donate.

Overall I would say from the impression I got from the Discord alone, it seems your server is full of High School antics and a clique mentality. But that is just someone as an outsider looking in. The claims of bias/abusive GMs? I know nothing about it. However I can certainly say with much vigor that I don't think some of the players that come from your server and complain here on RMS are full of hot air, there must be some weight to their words. You will also find unlike most of the uncivil neanderthal's that are on this forum, I have no problem dealing with my issues in the public eye and I have absolutely nothing to hide.

Was my first impression a bad one? Certainly and if I hurt your feelings, I apologize. But your community's lasting impression is by all means, MUCH worse.

Quote from: DeePee on Nov 11, 2017, 04:33 AM
tl;dr:
"your server seems to have biased GMs and your community can't f*** speak English"
"Okay."
"omg why won't you love me?! *rant on RMS*"

See. This is the kind of behavior the people exude.  /hmm

You guys seem to have quite a bit of dirty laundry in the reviews. But I'm not iDubbbz. I'm not going to Content Cop your server. That's below me. While it would be fun to do, I can't help but feel you guys do this to yourselves when you give kneejerk responses like this on the forum. So dig your own grave, just mind the banana peel by your foot.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Keng on Feb 13, 2018, 09:27 PM
I'm gonna make it shortest as I can.

- Pros (Brightside):
* Ez leveling, pvm, high end raids when you have the right gears / chars
* The voting always reached its target even we know the last day need 5K++ vote, but the max when we can get when 2k online population only 4k votes. Now barely can reach 1.8k players. Reached target means high exp / job rate ~yay~
* The new GM keep coming, as they only be needed at the moment. Once not, we know the will be vanished. More slaves Gms more merrier
* New costumes keep coming as we'll ignore the dead BG / WoE / PVP
* Mostly defending post here either subGM / GM friends / GM wannabe. Strong bond huh!
* SQI / High End gears so strong you can pawn any mob with right gameplay

- Cons (Darkside):
* Many 'GMwanabe' either in game / discord (go try for yourself)
* Special treatment for GM's gf free OP gears /  close friends (They got earlier info about incoming patch, what nerf, what item to sell / to buy. You name it). They also can troll GM in @main without penalty: Camel etcetc (again, go try it for yourself)
* You & your accociate friends acc will get banned continuely once they dont like you for non realistic reason like videos contains "Hey you son of **" in woe video section.
* Dont even say "curry" in PVP as you'll get banned, IDK why
* Many more, I'll just list this

p/s: I'm not banned person I just post based on my experiences for almost a decade in Tro. Sad to see my mates leaving this server one after another while GM only cares about costumes. Big talk about beta BG / PVP / Woe  blabblabla

Peace o7
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Feb 15, 2018, 06:28 AM
So in short: "I don't have any evidence but accuse the GMs of being corrupt. Why you so corrupt GMs."

My answer: GMs are not slaves, no player gets special treatment or else I would personally kick the GM from staff, all of what you have said is s***. If not then please post your evidence. Thanks!
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Keng on Feb 20, 2018, 08:03 PM
One of the samples your twisted tongue, I won't argue because  /heh
(https://i.imgur.com/aNwi6lh.jpg?1)
*The excuses remain excuses while he just close his eyes when it comes to his gf/friends.

Don't bother to find/delete/lock others thread in your forum as I don't bother to put more SS from forum/in-game chat between 'another High GM friends chat'
Your decreasing population is all the prove what I just said before.

p/s: its a bit late to hear our opinion in Woe/PvP/BG after most of them already leave your server. But good luck nonetheless
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: DeePee on Feb 20, 2018, 08:36 PM
I like how you searched through 4 years of RMS reviews and forum posts to find "proof" for your trolling. Nice.

Sort of disappointed that after searching back 4 years, all you could find is a GM saying they used to play WoE. :(
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: applecidervinegar on Feb 21, 2018, 10:02 AM
Why was that picture deleted? I swear admins here are paid by seiren and boreas
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: Boreas on Feb 21, 2018, 03:47 PM
Quote from: applecidervinegar on Feb 21, 2018, 10:02 AM
Why was that picture deleted? I swear admins here are paid by seiren and boreas

We pay them with cookies and milk.
Title: Re: My experience in TalonRO
Post by: yC on Feb 21, 2018, 05:29 PM
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/announcements/global-forum-rules/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/announcements/global-forum-rules/)

#4.