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So decided to write honest review about this so called VividRO v1 (AeonRO v2) that are duplicate of GM Reality's preview server AeonRO, this server is overpopulated by loyal members of he's previews serve due fact that some of them are GM's, I even lost count of GM's on this server with 90-110 population of double clients and vendors.

GM's

In first view GM's are nice and friendly, but at the end of the day they are suspicious because of player complains or posted proofs like these

Spoiler

GM killing Beelzebub even main GM said it was done with command that doesn't drop loot, but group of so called Reality cat's (guild that loyal to Reality due GMs in their guild) started to defend it, kinda suspicious? Even thought why GM hit mvp, testing something? I don't think so.   
(http://i.imgur.com/9N6CWPY.png)

or recently this happend, one of GM's used their command to immobilize monster for ever? Here what i could grab from shout box previous night, look at time. Even GM on her legal account tried to cover it like that person made that sleep on her, but seriously? It didint move even from same cell.
(http://i.imgur.com/JHrC5dv.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/kQbn6mC.png)

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Anyways some GM's trying to be active and helpful while others might be doing some fishy stuff.

Events

Like previous server events, so nothing much changed, maybe only that fact that there's two GM's hosting daily events on forums or in-game, no point even in complaining in it.

BG / WoE

Personally i would just say WHAT THE f***, released BG with bugs for 1 week or even more until they fixed it, bug were like emperium literally woe emperium who ignores magic, element attacks + had like 3-10 hp at one point. Reading AeonRO reviews i assuming that they had same problem there at beginning, anyways it got fixed by now but there's still no point BG because of 0 competition there. Also everybody keep talking about WoE that it will come, but it will be same with bugs like BG came?

PvP

Don't know it is bad or good, but pvp ladder collect info from BG too, so that makes so false statistic when these days BG is 1 team vs 1 afk team, sounds fair?

Economic

Well it's fair so far, making money it's easy at gefenia even after it got nerfed still 6-10mil a hour sounds good, most faster way would be with AD creator since you can get ad either from BG either from bio04 mob drop (45% 10 AD box)
Ofc there's alternatives for newbies like pasana , grand peco or wild rose. Anyways with days market will die since people getting tons of money / items without ability to spend them anywhere since most of us already have full gears, except those of high tier items.

Custom items and much more

Well there is tons of custom hats drop able by monsters + donation item quests or some other item quest. But those quest are time required grinding for few days to be done, when you could just make money in few hours and buy donation items from other players who selling.

Some stuff

Well at least Reality add some flow in to server by adding instance CT, Byland 6, incoming Glast Heim and also there's Bio04 without mvp. Anyways these things are just new experience for those who like challenging mvps or monsters or just raids.

Some servers have guild houses, Reality is against such stuff, but he's cats were occupied  @go cave  map, small cave with npc's like healer and so on (best to exploit with  abracadabra comparing other big towns) i was surprised that place was a town, if not one kid bragging about it, i wouldn't even know about it same as many of us who never played AeonRO. After server population droped he's cats invaded again prontera town so called new people would think it's not yet done for the server, even many players already pointing facts  that server is moving slowly down.

Spam of reviews by cats that are over 85+ or 90+ are just from he's puppets from same guild:) more fact those lower reviews (30-85) are more accurate than anything, i'm not hating server, just being realistic and not gonna spread rumors how it's fantastic when it isn't like many of those fake reviews. 

Anyways, if you guys looking challenging time required server - VividRO is for you! But don't be disappointed if it won't last long as previous version *cough* AeonRO.  Since all servers one way or another goes down.


==same here==

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM
GM's

In first view GM's are nice and friendly, but at the end of the day they are suspicious because of player complains or posted proofs like these

Spoiler

GM killing Beelzebub even main GM said it was done with command that doesn't drop loot, but group of so called Reality cat's (guild that loyal to Reality due GMs in their guild) started to defend it, kinda suspicious? Even thought why GM hit mvp, testing something? I don't think so.   
(http://i.imgur.com/9N6CWPY.png)

or recently this happend, one of GM's used their command to immobilize monster for ever? Here what i could grab from shout box previous night, look at time. Even GM on her legal account tried to cover it like that person made that sleep on her, but seriously? It didint move even from same cell.
(http://i.imgur.com/JHrC5dv.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/kQbn6mC.png)

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Anyways some GM's trying to be active and helpful while others might be doing some fishy stuff.

Are you seriously this salty about your ban?

I already explained the Beelzebub thing. Luciar had Ahura Mazdah on and accidentally reflected damage on Beelzebub while he was checking something in Cursed Abbey 3. He didn't want it affecting anything later, and this was the first day of the server where nobody was capable of killing Beelzebub, so he @killmonster2'd, which leaves no drops. Get over it.

Second of all, I already addressed the Luna thing. She was investigating you (Bender) personally griefing in Bio 3. Good Night, Sweetie is the only way sub GMs can react to PVM, and she used it on the Katheryne AFTER the party had already wiped as it was bouncing her around while she was talking with the party about the report, and as a result, it, again, had no effect on players. She just forgot to lift it, after. Big deal.

I've spent way too much f*** time and effort on this server to let corruption happen. I dealt with both of these situations immediately, and sorry, but accidents happen.

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM
BG / WoE

Personally i would just say WHAT THE f***, released BG with bugs for 1 week or even more until they fixed it, bug were like emperium literally woe emperium who ignores magic, element attacks + had like 3-10 hp at one point. Reading AeonRO reviews i assuming that they had same problem there at beginning, anyways it got fixed by now but there's still no point BG because of 0 competition there. Also everybody keep talking about WoE that it will come, but it will be same with bugs like BG came?

It was never like the Emperium that ignores magic. It's always shown the "miss" effect for multi-hit skills like Jupitel Thunder and Acid Demonstration, but it does damage, and always has. That's how it is everywhere. The Emperium was accidentally switched from plant-type mode (1 damage per hit) for a couple hours before I fixed it, I believe all on Wednesday.

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM
PvP

Don't know it is bad or good, but pvp ladder collect info from BG too, so that makes so false statistic when these days BG is 1 team vs 1 afk team, sounds fair?

Then report them for AFKing, like you should anywhere else.

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM
Some stuff

Well at least Reality add some flow in to server by adding instance CT, Byland 6, incoming Glast Heim and also there's Bio04 without mvp. Anyways these things are just new experience for those who like challenging mvps or monsters or just raids.

Some servers have guild houses, Reality is against such stuff, but he's cats were occupied  @go cave  map, small cave with npc's like healer and so on (best to exploit with  abracadabra comparing other big towns) i was surprised that place was a town, if not one kid bragging about it, i wouldn't even know about it same as many of us who never played AeonRO. After server population droped he's cats invaded again prontera town so called new people would think it's not yet done for the server, even many players already pointing facts  that server is moving slowly down.

Spam of reviews by cats that are over 85+ or 90+ are just from he's puppets from same guild:) more fact those lower reviews (30-85) are more accurate than anything, i'm not hating server, just being realistic and not gonna spread rumors how it's fantastic when it isn't like many of those fake reviews.

Are you stoned or something?

tl;dr: Ban Bender -> salt salt salt salt salt

But you could have definitely done worse. So thanks for that.

-Reality

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/Itazuki/vividro2logo3mediumlarge_zpsf5gi0d6d.png) (http://vivid-ro.com/)

1.) Thanks for the big logo, clearly a free advertisement.
2.) Most of the things in this review isn't even true.
3.) Since day 1, you have been doing nothing but attacking the server, you were rude to every single player in the shoutbox, #main, breaking every rule possible, disrespecting every gm, every player, even your recent griefing in bio labs, you were breaking a group's ice wall and ruining their chance of killing the mvp and getting them killed.

So decided to write honest review about this so called VividRO v1 (AeonRO v2) that are duplicate of GM Reality's preview server AeonRO, this server is overpopulated by loyal members of he's previews serve due fact that some of them are GM's, I even lost count of GM's on this server with 90-110 population of double clients and vendors.

This server has 7 game masters working with reality. the "loyal players" you speak of, are players from aeonro and others that i and the rest of the staff brought in our server. we do several tasks other than our original roles like, advertising. and if we do have loyal players who take our side in situations like "you" who only wants to destroy the server, then we did a pretty good job in my opinion.

GM's

In first view GM's are nice and friendly, but at the end of the day they are suspicious because of player complains or posted proofs like these

Spoiler

GM killing Beelzebub even main GM said it was done with command that doesn't drop loot, but group of so called Reality cat's (guild that loyal to Reality due GMs in their guild) started to defend it, kinda suspicious? Even thought why GM hit mvp, testing something? I don't think so.   
(http://i.imgur.com/9N6CWPY.png)

or recently this happend, one of GM's used their command to immobilize monster for ever? Here what i could grab from shout box previous night, look at time. Even GM on her legal account tried to cover it like that person made that sleep on her, but seriously? It didint move even from same cell.
(http://i.imgur.com/JHrC5dv.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/kQbn6mC.png)

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Anyways some GM's trying to be active and helpful while others might be doing some fishy stuff.

All you are doing here is jumping to conclusions. every time you see something go wrong, you scream "server corrupted" "biased gms" "corrupted gms" in #main and everywhere else. as reality stated, it was a mistake, and there were no items dropped. before vividro got enough staff members, reality worked very hard alone for hours without sleep, and no way in hell would he allow any corruption here. as for the monster being immobilized, the only reason that happened was because you. you were griefing a party in bio 3 and while assisting them, a mob went right to the party and luna had no choice but to do that. only thing is, she forgot to remove the status on that monster later. everyone makes mistakes, gms as well, get over it.

Some stuff

Well at least Reality add some flow in to server by adding instance CT, Byland 6, incoming Glast Heim and also there's Bio04 without mvp. Anyways these things are just new experience for those who like challenging mvps or monsters or just raids.

Some servers have guild houses, Reality is against such stuff, but he's cats were occupied  @go cave  map, small cave with npc's like healer and so on (best to exploit with  abracadabra comparing other big towns) i was surprised that place was a town, if not one kid bragging about it, i wouldn't even know about it same as many of us who never played AeonRO. After server population droped he's cats invaded again prontera town so called new people would think it's not yet done for the server, even many players already pointing facts  that server is moving slowly down.

If these so called "cats" helped us by moving to prontera to help the player count grow, then let me tell this once again, we did a good job. they like our server so much that they moved to the main town so new players don't feel "empty". thanks for letting people on rms know that we have an amazing player base. :)

Spam of reviews by cats that are over 85+ or 90+ are just from he's puppets from same guild:) more fact those lower reviews (30-85) are more accurate than anything, i'm not hating server, just being realistic and not gonna spread rumors how it's fantastic when it isn't like many of those fake reviews. 

We have an active online player count of 70-90, rest vendors, daily. and we haven't even gotten that many reviews, so it wasn't people "spamming reviews" it was actual players who love our server writing reviews for the server unlike those who were spamming bad reviews from different so-called servers. not all of our player base have reviewed yet, if they did, then maybe it would be "spamming". "spamming legit reviews".

Anyways, if you guys looking challenging time required server - VividRO is for you! But don't be disappointed if it won't last long as previous version *cough* AeonRO.  Since all servers one way or another goes down.

I totally agree to the fact, not all servers last forever. all in all, thanks for advertising the server. :)


http://vivid-ro.com/ (http://vivid-ro.com/)
http://vivid-ro.com/forums/ (http://vivid-ro.com/forums/)

Oniichan, b**** please.. i don't use forum so how i'm being rude at shoutbox? Plus sir get your facts straight that so called people who donated and so on were on main chat rude for days spamming s*** because they had a bad day? Do dey got punishment? Same as OG members bullied some poor pinoy who left server because of that. Breaking ice wall? 1 time breaked ice wall to go back on leveling cuz it was blocked my path is that griefing? Wow teleported once bio03 is considering as multiple times griefing 204249 bio mvps? Thats not reason to GM Luna use skills that effects monsters when she have commands to hide herself, and she used that skill on monster after 3-4 hours from that bio03 mvp. Also Oniichan thanks for your atitude :) Yes i were rude since first day, but not as you saying sir that with every person on this game, 70-80 active players? divide it by 3 maybe. Also if you think i'm overacting or being salty so that's not true same as your fact by saying i'm being rude to every single player.

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 04:18 AM
Oniichan, b**** please.. i don't use forum so how i'm being rude at shoutbox? Plus sir get your facts straight that so called people who donated and so on were on main chat rude for days spamming s*** because they had a bad day? Do dey got punishment? Same as OG members bullied some poor pinoy who left server because of that. Breaking ice wall? 1 time breaked ice wall to go back on leveling cuz it was blocked my path is that griefing? Wow teleported once bio03 is considering as multiple times griefing 204249 bio mvps? Thats not reason to GM Luna use skills that effects monsters when she have commands to hide herself, and she used that skill on monster after 3-4 hours from that bio03 mvp. Also Oniichan thanks for your atitude :) Yes i were rude since first day, but not as you saying sir that with every person on this game, 70-80 active players? divide it by 3 maybe. Also if you think i'm overacting or being salty so that's not true same as your fact by saying i'm being rude to every single player.

I guess, you didn't realize how rude you were. and now I'm pretty sure you don't even know what "griefing means. as for rude players, that's there in every server, everywhere, welcome to the internet. maybe you weren't being rude, you were just confused, either way, this reply of yours proved my point, so that closes that topic. thank you for proving my point, good day to you, sir. :)

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 04:18 AM
Oniichan, b**** please.. i don't use forum so how i'm being rude at shoutbox? Plus sir get your facts straight that so called people who donated and so on were on main chat rude for days spamming s*** because they had a bad day? Do dey got punishment? Same as OG members bullied some poor pinoy who left server because of that. Breaking ice wall? 1 time breaked ice wall to go back on leveling cuz it was blocked my path is that griefing? Wow teleported once bio03 is considering as multiple times griefing 204249 bio mvps? Thats not reason to GM Luna use skills that effects monsters when she have commands to hide herself, and she used that skill on monster after 3-4 hours from that bio03 mvp. Also Oniichan thanks for your atitude :) Yes i were rude since first day, but not as you saying sir that with every person on this game, 70-80 active players? divide it by 3 maybe. Also if you think i'm overacting or being salty so that's not true same as your fact by saying i'm being rude to every single player.

It was recorded. I have the damn replay of you intentionally teleporting the MVP. Jesus christ, dude. Get over it.

And nobody reported anything about OG and said "pinoy" to me. Sorry it wasn't reported? I don't care about guild lines. And there is no evidence I have any sway towards donors.

-Reality

Quote from: Oniichan on May 29, 2015, 04:25 AM
I guess, you didn't realize how rude you were. and now I'm pretty sure you don't even know what "griefing means. as for rude players, that's there in every server, everywhere, welcome to the internet. maybe you weren't being rude, you were just confused, either way, this reply of yours proved my point, so that closes that topic. thank you for proving my point, good day to you, sir. :)

Anyways i see what you did there sir (http://vivid-ro.com/home/?module=character&action=online&p=1) , that says everything about faking population. Thank you for time sir

ehh don't be salty now, have a nice weekend :)

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 04:31 AM
Anyways i see what you did there sir (http://vivid-ro.com/home/?module=character&action=online&p=1) , that says everything about faking population. Thank you for time sir

ehh don't be salty now, have a nice weekend :)

What are you even talking about lmfao

-Reality

Seriously, nobody really cares about this server. It's full bullcrap.Waste of time just like AeonRO ( Old VividRO )
Admin is only stealing money from people. Wiping old server > renaming it > tried gathering new attention aka new donation > dead.
Sad to say that reality is a trying hard admin. He's nothing but a bullcrap. Only his friends plays his server and yes there are lots of corruption going on.

Brase yourself for reality and friends are coming over!!

Quote from: SharpLeaf on May 29, 2015, 04:52 AM
Seriously, nobody really cares about this server. It's full bullcrap.Waste of time.
Admin is only stealing money from people. Wiping old server > renaming it > tried gathering new attention aka new donation > dead.
Sad to say that reality is a trying hard admin. He's nothing but a bullcrap. Only his friends plays his server and yes there are lots of corruption going on.

My god are you misled, child.

Who are you even.

-Reality

Quote from: SharpLeaf on May 29, 2015, 04:52 AM
Seriously, nobody really cares about this server. It's full bullcrap.Waste of time just like AeonRO ( Old VividRO )
Admin is only stealing money from people. Wiping old server > renaming it > tried gathering new attention aka new donation > dead.
Sad to say that reality is a trying hard admin. He's nothing but a bullcrap. Only his friends plays his server and yes there are lots of corruption going on.

Brase yourself for reality and friends are coming over!!

First of all, we never hid the fact we are aeonro, and we also announced it in aeon forum and facebook to why we had to remake the server. second, this isn't a money hungry server at all. what you're doing here is just accusations without any proof.

@ Bender or Malfis

Well thanks for the "honesty" of your review.
Now let me be honest.

The so called VividRo is not a secret it's based on AeonRo previous server, so there's no need to underline the fact that the servers are related. VividRo was born after several changes has been made to AeonRo, there are announcements and threads saying it. Also, I could name thousands servers that are the re-make of a previous one, so I don't see why you push so much on a thing that is not even hidden to the public, but apparently you have to grab on anything to support your cause.

And here we come to your cropped screenshots.
Any action on the server is announced via broadcast, from what I see on your ss it's nothing but a tomb, you didn't even show the time you took the screenshot or any chat.

About the other screenshots. Again, I just see one monster asleep, your character and the server time. What you forgot to mention, and I am a bit surprised is that you claim you are or have been a GM and that you have been griefing the WS bio3 MVP.
The party that reported you took a video of your sinX teleporting the MVP and mob dropping the monsters on the party.
Later, the same party asked a GM to follow you, and you have been surprised attacking the ice wall of said party in order to get the party killed. Hence, the single monster has been put to sleep, since the low lvl GMs can't attack or touch any monster.
Latest, don't tell me it was not griefing, cause anyone here can tell that in a mid low rate server a SOLO sinX can't kill the WS MvP in Bio3.
Grats on whoever hired you as a GM.

Events: this aspect is going to be improved anyway, as events are never enough XD

I think Reality explained pretty well bout BG and PvP. Also proving that you don't even have an idea on how the mechanics work.

I am going to quote this again: I personally joined VividRo and GM Reality because I am an old school RO player, I've been in too many servers that show the "candies" to your eyes while the biggest and well known exploits are never fixed, while I am sure that Reality has spent his time in fixing the major exploits and made a server balanced under any aspect of it.
Whenever I try a new server what bothers me most is the spoon feeding mechanics, where everything is available in a short time or immediately, well this doesn't fit the description VividRo or the previous AeonRo.
And again, the server has nothing to hide, nor the GMs nor the population, that's why I joined it, because its philosophy stay true to what a non corrupted server should be.

@SHarpLeaf
Your accusations are irrelevant.
From your point of view then I could point my finger on any of the current servers and say "wiping old server > renaming > tried gathering new attention > ded". Do you even realize that accusing someone of stealing money from people is bad?

Quote from: Noble on May 29, 2015, 05:50 AM
hfrejferk I misclicked Quote pls delete

I never said i was a GM LOL are you f*** high? Wait are you again gonna talk about BG bug? I don't know how it works? I do realize that at BG it show as miss and emperium takes still hits, but on this server for one week or more HW's only storm gust could deal dmg to emperium, same as paladin grandcross or holy light  or hw JT didint do a single hit to emperium, how do i know? At rush first emperium had % bar, so believe me i know what i'm saying so please sthap it, it's almost same as their support gm who know less about RO than my cat, saying server has 0% tax on vending sells (harassed me for me saying it has default 2% on #main when somebody asked bout it)  or same as telling people that custom item npc allows all chars to wear it (that's not true)

+ just wanna say about that WS mvp, HW monster wasint even there at the point and i wasint even moving from my cell so no way i could bring that HW or mob drop her to the party in first place, so that's makes no sence of GM sleep monster because it's randomly came to that spot, and after mvp die i was there for few seconds and left map (still wiz mob wasint there) dont know exacly when she done that but i checked map after 3-4 hours and found that map. Also yes you see full HP HW asleep, i have no gears so you think could do that? Mob was on same cell for ages there, since day before that GM got her commands to use skills like those that she even showed at prontera town on gm for fun.

, oh do you need full screen shot about bee? Sure they were testing, they have such command as summon bee for rest purpose on  any other map, why dafuq they pick abbey03


Few hours ago one player shouted that server is slowly dieing, shout was deleted, and he got ip ban? :DDD seems legit, salty mucho mucho

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 06:07 AM
, oh do you need full screen shot about bee? Sure they were testing, they have such command as summon bee for rest purpose on  any other map, why dafuq they pick abbey03

Fairly certain he was dealing with an @request, not a bug. Our staff isn't dumb enough to test mob AI out in the open. There were no items dropped or EXP given. What else do you want?

And why are you the only person who cares?

-Reality

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Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 06:07 AM
Few hours ago one player shouted that server is slowly dieing, shout was deleted, and he got ip ban? :DDD seems legit, salty mucho mucho

He was banned for making "GameMaster Reality" and saying the server was rebooting or shutting down or something in-game.

Man, you're so quick to jump to conclusions. How does anybody think you're credible..?

Quote from: Reality on May 29, 2015, 06:15 AM

He was banned for making "GameMaster Reality" and saying the server was rebooting or shutting down or something in-game.

Man, you're so quick to jump to conclusions. How does anybody think you're credible..?

Oh sorry GM Reality for you not having ban logs, also jumping to conclusions to quick? I just pointed obvious thing as a question from curiosity. Anyways

Quote from: Malfis on May 29, 2015, 06:27 AM

Oh sorry GM Reality for you not having ban logs, also jumping to conclusions to quick? I just pointed obvious thing as a question from curiosity. Anyways

Why would ban logs be public? It's not anyone's business and half of them are IPs/MACs, not character names.

-Reality

Quote from: Reality on May 29, 2015, 06:35 AM
Why would ban logs be public? It's not anyone's business and half of them are IPs/MACs, not character names.

-Reality

Well it's my opinion but i believe that would help build a player gm trust thing and maybe more people would report something instead of "meeh not worth reporting, still 0 actions gonna be taken" but if it's ip's/mac's then i understand of no need to do it :)
Also i believe you gonna say that people reporting stuff and so on, but seeing bg broken for ages and when you fixed it you said nobody were even reporting it, so that's the point.

You are very honest about your server review. We are deeply moved by your personal feelings towards your ban.

Good luck on your next server.




-Salt

Too much bla bla in this thread.

But some things just made me laugh. You said in your own board that, friendly formulated, Luciar doest have much experience. So why does a GM without any clue have access to a full set of GM equipment he never needs?
Also, we have ignore commands or simply @hide for GMs if they stand around in bio. I dont need to see what happened, I just asked Luna what happend. The catering in this scene was way too comfortable and a party always must bear the risk that a mob can spawn in their party because the might not be alone there. I cannot see any kind of corruption here but I spoke with Luna about that.

I see good forum events there (which had been stopped after the server launched, sadly) but I also see the rough controverse by very unprofessional moves/actions.

And from what Ive heard is that the admin is more focused to lvl/gear up his own chars instead to administrate/develop things. That explains why he doesnt give a s*** about the rest of the world.
Still laughing my donkey off when Amy tried to explain me why one of you headgears have to cost $40 based on a fcking lack of knowledge.

Quote from: exii on Jun 01, 2015, 05:16 AM
And from what Ive heard is that the admin is more focused to lvl/gear up his own chars instead to administrate/develop things. That explains why he doesnt give a s*** about the rest of the world.

Are you kidding me? I've spent maybe two days of leveling/MVPing total of 18 days of being open, with a level 94ish High Priest and Minstrel, so I can help get BG started or join parties to increase server activity. Tell me more about how I spend all my time on my legits when they're critically undergeared and underleveled, and not even in a guild.

Cute slander, though. Gotta love the 2k15 RO community and its targeting of the only midrate admin left who actually cares about his server/players and plays fair with competition.

(https://thetvmouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/craig-parks-and-rec-its-incurable.gif)

-Reality

lol @ this whole thread, a GM with bad PR and a player with a completely not honest review.

Move this to hall of shame and get done with it?

Quote from: Nano on Jun 02, 2015, 12:15 AM
lol @ this whole thread, a GM with bad PR and a player with a completely not honest review.

Move this to hall of shame and get done with it?

The Hall of Shame is for staff, especially administrators, who have a proven track record of corruption, abuse, hacking, etc. I'm not sure that's the correct action when pretty much everything regarding me and my servers is baseless slander, trivial, or already resolved issues. >_>;

-Reality

Quote from: Reality on Jun 01, 2015, 11:16 PM
Are you kidding me? I've spent maybe two days of leveling/MVPing total of 18 days of being open, with a level 94ish High Priest and Minstrel, so I can help get BG started or join parties to increase server activity. Tell me more about how I spend all my time on my legits when they're critically undergeared and underleveled, and not even in a guild.

Cute slander, though. Gotta love the 2k15 RO community and its targeting of the only midrate admin left who actually cares about his server/players and plays fair with competition.
-Reality

You can tell whatever you want. I dont even know you, never played on your servers before and didnt even created an ingame account on vivd. Im just a neutral observer and the server still would look promising to me if I didnt know about the problems around.
But if your own GMs feel like to leave because of you and tell me their true opinions how things are going, I have abolutely no doubts about those.

The woe guilds you were joing before also gave me more negative response about you btw. Its not possible to hide the past once youve decided to be a person of interest.

Quote from: exii on Jun 02, 2015, 03:47 AM
You can tell whatever you want. I dont even know you, never played on your servers before and didnt even created an ingame account on vivd. Im just a neutral observer and the server still would look promising to me if I didnt know about the problems around.
But if your own GMs feel like to leave because of you and tell me their true opinions how things are going, I have abolutely no doubts about those.

The woe guilds you were joing before also gave me more negative response about you btw. Its not possible to hide the past once youve decided to be a person of interest.

Oh, you sound like you are one of those people who believe anyone's words, sure go ahead. Unlike most people who actually believe the rumors and other gossips, i applied to be the first staff member in both of reality's recent servers. unlike all those super money hungry admins like casero/talisro/oncero (yrvine), reality actually worked his donkey off for hours all alone before our staff was full and still does.

woe guilds hate him because he has worked with cookie, although, both of them went their separate ways. they barely ever talk to each other. why not ask cookie himself?

Before judging the server and the admin, you should try logging in.

PS - Although, at this point, it's pointless lmao. someone clearly hates our server. first spam of bad reviews from fujin who is number one pvper in oncero, and then now server getting hacked, +1 ro community.

Im known as a rude but very honest person which mostly attracts people who are also honest. Also, I wasnt really asking for a detailed review, I was just chatting.
So there is absolutely no need to have doubts at these statements from my side.

Ignoring that funny $40 headgear it seems true that Reality isnt hosting it to make $$$$ profit. But that fact is not a guarantee that he is doing good. Especially if you think about that he might created a server just for himself to play on it. There is a reason why the population cutted drasticly, dont you think so?

Quote from: Oniichan on Jun 02, 2015, 04:35 AM
woe guilds hate him because he has worked with cookie, although, both of them went their separate ways. they barely ever talk to each other. why not ask cookie himself?

Yeah sure, almost every known woe guild world wide played on ggRo which can be called as CookieRo v2 but lets believe in your statement.

selfown

I never said he worked in ggro tho, i was talking about divinity.

What's wrong in playing in your server when everyone does that? 90% of the servers out there have staff members playing in it in secrecy, we choose to keep it open rather than keeping it a secret. I too am a player in the server and players in-game knew about that and were completely okay with it. they knew there wasn't any corruption whatsoever.

A known guild was proven wrong in another thread about reality, they hated reality, they thought they knew cookie's way of doing things and since reality has worked with him before, thus he's corrupt (justlikecookie/hiringcookiesecretly) which was eventually proven wrong, he never hired cookie in this project, and is in no way like him. the people you speak of may not be one of those who lie, but they may have been mistaken. everyone makes mistakes and eventually corrects them and our effort in correcting them was vividro.

PS- if you've been looking around in the forum shoutbox, you'll probably notice that the server has been hacked, server is in a very bad shape and is closing it's doors, so i'm not part of the team anymore. tho if you still have any questions, I'm here to answer them since i was still a part of this team.

I'm gonna go search for another server, and i hope the players of vividro find a nice new home. good luck on your journey.

-Oniichan

As someone who joined VividRO after a 6 year hiatus of Ragnarok, I must say that what Reality had to offer was perfect. All of this GM bias that people talk about was never witnessed by me. Sure its true that there were plenty of people that joined the server having previously known Reality, but I can't say that any one of these players were shown any particular preference.

Whenever any issue with GM abuse came up, it was properly addressed, and players were informed of the situation. Tell me which server does this? Point me in the direction of the server that doesn't just mute their players when they complain about GM corruption.

During my time on VividRO I made lots of friends, associated with lots of friendly people, and never had a negative experience with any of the GM team. As a member of a newly established guild, I was never shunned or disrespected by a player or an admin for not being a part of the "prefered" guild. In fact, I met a lot of the  bigger guild's members and found them to be quite nice and enjoyable to talk to. I also found this the case when associating with the admins. There was never a point when I felt disregarded or insulted or anything by the admin group.

Although a lot of people frown upon GMs  making their own characters, I applaud Reality for making his private character well-known. He never hid in a cloud of mystery and we never had to guess to see who his character was, and that is something very few GMs.

The player who posted these screenshots had for days been spamming main chat with nonsensical bantering, insults and trolling. If you want to talk about people leaving then don't point your finger at the GM team but instead look at the very creator of this thread. A lot of people quit the server because of his awful spamming of main chat, his rude remarks, and sexist commentary.

Another reason people left was because several players would spam main with #serverdead. Server is dying. Panic. Of course new players would be discouraged to play on a server when it's very members were accusing it of dying.

regardless of this matter however, even after all this negativity from the very player base, the server never truly dropped below 50-60 ACTIVE players (As in non-vendors/AFKs). In fact, prior to this hacking incident it appeared that the server was even beginning to grow.

It is unfortunate to find out that the server is done with, however I thank Reality and his team for attempting to provide players with a nice, unique, friendly, and fun environment.

- Fetus

Quote from: Oniichan on Jun 02, 2015, 02:19 PM
I never said he worked in ggro tho, i was talking about divinity.

What's wrong in playing in your server when everyone does that? 90% of the servers out there have staff members playing in it in secrecy, we choose to keep it open rather than keeping it a secret. I too am a player in the server and players in-game knew about that and were completely okay with it. they knew there wasn't any corruption whatsoever.

stopped reading after here. Just a waste of time to investigate further.
Basic points:
-no one cares a server which died 5 years ago; Cookie and co. successfully hosted ggRo a few months ago -> argument invalid
-losing objectivity when playing too much -> high risk for biased behavior (not limited to the admin and mostly critical on mvp hunts)

end of story

Btw Im not here to say how bad the server is. Im here because I think that somebody has to stuff the leak in your mouth which permanently spitting s*** out. The way you trying to let the server look like is obviously not matching with the truth and I dont like that. Technically I would stop if you would admit your mistakes and stop searching for excuses on events which happend like 5 years ago. Oh, and I played divinity for SNL once and I liked the server. So far the point woe players bla bla dvinity bla bla Cookie or whatever rndm terms you want to mix.

I'm not here for the drama either, and i ain't lying or making any s*** up here, i was defending the staff i worked for and respected a lot. although, if you're not gonna finish reading the entire posts and judge, and have the attitude of "iamalwaysrightiknoweverything" then there's no need for further discussion, it's meaningless. good day to you, sir. end of topic. :)

PS - you aren't even worth replying to so I'm just gonna stop here.

Dont need to finish if 3 lines of garbage are enough. Watch your words and I might watch mine.

Also, what would a fag else have to reply? New stories of other past servers from 2009? Wow

Quote from: Oniichan on Jun 02, 2015, 02:19 PMPS- if you've been looking around in the forum shoutbox, you'll probably notice that the server has been hacked, server is in a very bad shape and is closing it's doors, so i'm not part of the team anymore. tho if you still have any questions, I'm here to answer them since i was still a part of this team.

I'm gonna go search for another server, and i hope the players of vividro find a nice new home. good luck on your journey.

-Oniichan

Wait whaaaaat!? Noooo! After such a long search, I finally found something to call my home again... So, there's zero chance it's coming back?
If so... Do you got any alternatives maybe?

So. From my understanding of this QQ thread. A player is salty because he got banned. Ranted. Admin/GM's come in and defend their server. Only for it to go down in the long run. Now if this doesn't sound like a cash grab, I don't know what does. If you're going to waste people's time and try to steal their money, then actually make it believable. You're not a "new" server if that's the case, you're using rehashed stuff from an old server model and from the sound of it, didn't work in the first place. Dead servers need to stay dead. Not come back to haunt players who have already had bad relations with it and will have even worse relations with it's reborn predecessor.  This is why the community is s*** now, if you can't be honest an go, "Well yeah, I need the money to pay for X but in return I will give you Y." Then don't run the server. I know a few servers that don't take donations and honestly they're damn good. If you're a server that needs to run off donations then one of two things is probably true.

1. You don't have a well paying job to cover server cost.
2. Jobless and have no money to pay for server cost period.

I don't see why people are so greedy in their attempt to swindle people out of their money and then act like they did nothing wrong. I'm glad Vivid was a 99/70 server. Since I don't mess with those rates to begin with, but for the future, if players don't like you, don't rear your ugly head here again or the same result will happen and you'll eventually be put on the Wall of Shame.

Also playing Devil's Advocate.

To you people who come on RMS and make a whole drama fest from your review. Stop it. Give your honest review and move the hell on. If it's a corruption report you're going for, then there's an inbox for a reason. Start using it, otherwise keep your QQ crap off the forums. It's a waste of time to read walls of text with little more than you throwing a temper tantrum about being banned and only giving half the story only for the GM's or Admin to come on, defend their server from your raging accusation, then they have to explain the full story and to give proof, and 90% of the time I hate to say it the Admin will be right, since they're catching you in the act and in the en it makes you look entirely foolish and rather stupid. So for future post, don't flood the review board with your crap. STOP IT!

-Ivory ~  /no1

Quote from: SharpLeaf on Jun 02, 2015, 06:26 PM
Tell me now if im wrong yeah?

I've been up all night trying to fix it you piece of s*** cock sucker f*** face. The world doesn't need more ungrateful cunts like you.

-Reality

Edit: Why the hell are s*** and f*** censored but not cunts or cock. Either way, f*** you, I'm doing everything I can.

And I made no f***ing money off Aeon or Vivid. Wanna f***ing see my paypal account? I'm broke. Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

A-holes tend to be the loudest, so I feel compelled to come and add my quiet appreciation and respect to the administration of Vivid RO. The server was excellent. Reality worked hard, and gave users a quality mid-rate, pre-renewal experience. It's unfortunate that there is such scum involved in RO pservers.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
I've been up all night trying to fix it you piece of s*** cock sucker f*** face. The world doesn't need more ungrateful cunts like you.

-Reality

Edit: Why the hell are s*** and f*** censored but not cunts or cock. Either way, f*** you, I'm doing everything I can.

And I made no f***ing money off Aeon or Vivid. Wanna f***ing see my paypal account? I'm broke. Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

Such a lovely guy. I should re-think my statement.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
I've been up all night trying to fix it you piece of s*** cock sucker f*** face. The world doesn't need more ungrateful cunts like you.

-Reality

Edit: Why the hell are s*** and f*** censored but not cunts or cock. Either way, f*** you, I'm doing everything I can.

And I made no f***ing money off Aeon or Vivid. Wanna f***ing see my paypal account? I'm broke. Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

This is abuse. Dude, you're worst than cookie & yrvine. ur server dont last 3 months lel

Best server i have ever played on.. No ingame corruption, Supportive players And Staff...I remember Gm reality and Luna sitting with me for like an hour or so to explain me the whole paladin class, stats and equipments to do bio 3 nd Og hunting....and after that i was lucky enough to get my first Orleans glove in like one day  /no1...As I returned to playing back Ro after like 4 years... i couldnt recollect right information about all classes...Its not a P2W server like any other Ro server..i Have never donated to this server....and from my experience one can acquire all items in donation shop in like one week if one knows to play the game and take a bit of efforts..Its a completely balanced server..One has to play the game and work a bit hard for equipping good gears...there are 2 great guilds on this server with experienced leaders..i got to learn a lot from my guild leader...He has 15 yeas of ro experience...never seen an experienced player like him to be honest...And the guilds are very much supportive towards new players joing Vivid Ro...Vivid was like a home for me and many other players ....the most satisfying and fair server i have ever played on....and i dont want to see it dying...due to some s***  hacker...who has hacked the server...Well leave that Guy to "Karma"....And i Want GM Reality....to just fix the server anyhow and Make it start working. This my Honest review on Vivid Ro...and honest review from a player who plays vivid Ro!!!... and not from someone who just judges a server by reading threads...and some negative reviews from other people...And yeah the staff is very transparent....Well i was actually planning on making my own server in 3 months..but after seeing this ro community..i feel its not worth it...Even though reality played fair, did so much to make a good ro server, I see people still accusing hom for s*** he didnt do...

An honest review From a Vivid Ro player

I don't know Reality personally but on the 3 servers I have played on which he was a part of the server staff/team, I really enjoyed my time. I'm a nobody and I rarely ever chat with other players besides my real life friends who I always bring whenever I hop servers.
It hasn't been a month yet since VividRO opened so I really don't know why some of you guys are acting like there's been some kind of huge foul play that has been going on since the beginning and proclaiming the server is dead. It is true that the server's population has dropped but that's more likely the cause of some bad player's attitude towards other players in the server than the server's staff itself.   

I also admit to not having donated a cent on any server I played on because I'm not rich and the only thing I love to do in RO is PVM, farm, and do cute headgear quests. (Cake hat ftw, though) Vivid and Aeon while having donation items, these items are also accessible via quests in-game and is of course, harder to obtain than just donating so the donators have some incentive upon doing so. So I'm just lmao to some saying it is a pay to win server. Tbh, there is hardly few to no competition yet in the server as far as I have observed. Reality doesn't deserve any of this accusations, really.

Anyway, yeah. I just made this account today because I feel bad for you people constantly trying to soil a good GM and private server. And also because I felt it necessary to thank Reality for creating lots of quests for players to do in Vivid. Reality, keep on doing what you do because we haven't really started doing a lot of quests yet. It will be a shame not to have a chance to do them all  /gg /no1 

Oh and before I forget, you probably don't remember but a few years back, you helped me a bit when I asked for a whitesmith's stats and gears. You basically gave me a guide so thanks for that Reality.  /heh

I'll pitch in...
I was on the server for just 5 days or so, but I really enjoyed my time there. Reality also helped me! I had a lot of questions, and he answered them all really kind. Even helped me with latency issues!
And I feel really bad for Reality now... This is such an unfair world...

Is there still hope for this server? Or can it not be saved? I've been working these past few days and haven't tried logging on but I read that the server has been hacked? Sorry to hear that, it was a great server. But I haven't found anything about it being closed yet, only that Reality is working to fix it. So I'm just wondering if we could get a solid answer. And if you are planning to start another server could you provide my friends and I some information so we can join? We really liked the events and customs on VividRO. My only request would probably be make the rates 50/50/50 instead haha, I don't have as much time as I used to... Best of luck Reality! Hope you can reply to this! /no1

I love the wave of 1-post-accounts here.

This post is getting more interesting each and everyday!

Quote from: exii on Jun 03, 2015, 07:46 AM
I love the wave of 1-post-accounts here.

Meh, what are you implying? A lotta these people came to this place when they saw VividRO was down to see what happened. Then they saw this thread and wanted to reply.
At least, that's how it was for me!

Quote from: SharpLeaf on Jun 03, 2015, 05:32 AM
This is abuse. Dude, you're worst than cookie & Yrvine. ur server dont last 3 months lel

To compare anyone to Cookie or Yrvine is just lol.

1) Reality spent his time constantly trying to work on and improve the server. When there was a battlegrounds problem (I didn't really know what it was about) he fixed it. When people posted on the forums about issues regarding their connectivity, he worked with them to solve the issue. There was never a moment where people complained about an issue that wasn't fixed, or a moment where people complained about GM absence or incompetence.

2) Reality hasn't disappeared or changed names after his server was hacked. He hasn't taken the money and ran like so many former server admins have done. He's still  working on the server. Is it his fault the server went down? No. Even before it went down we were informed that a certain admin not associated with the server had managed to cause a certain issue. This was broadcasted server-wide, so we were always aware of the issue, and later posted on the forums. A few hours after that I was informed of what had occurred by my guildmates. The server was hacked and damaged by someone and even as of now Reality is working to fix the damage caused by some immure butthurt prick.

If he was in fact seeking to run off like cookie has done sooo many times, why would he bother posting facebook updates about the issues  that he's facing. Why would he not try to move on to his next project instead of trying to fix the current one?

Every one of these negative comments have been baseless and simply aimed to attack a GM that so far has demonstrated determination and commitment to a server he worked hard to create.  The original thread maker pointed out issues that were discovered to be unfounded because HE WAS THE ISSUE

Then in your quest and Exii's quest for attention and e-fame and to just be annoying pieces of s*** you begin to speak of things that aren't even true. YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED THIS SEVER. Where are all these nonsensical accusations coming from? INB4 your next comment is "WOW LOOK AT REALITY'S LACKEY COMING TO SAVE HIS donkey". Btw, I've never even talked to the guy. I just joined VividRO to play with my brother.


Also, @Exii try to make your posts more coherent, trying to read them is like trying to decipher a riddle leading to the riches of ancient Egypt.


-Fetus

This server is pretty good, a bit too much BG based but some good ideas. Really fun to play this server.

I think that the server is pretty good too  /ok

Reality you really should keep the users updated about the actual situation of the server, maybe trough the page of facebook.

I hope the server won't close, it is one of the few mid-rates servers that is balanced and no pay-to-win. It would be a pity if this project dies.

The cronyism of the reality "crew" (who have been hard at work taking a dump all over anyone making a negative comment about the server) and comical lack of professionalism from the owner himself is very telling. It was bad enough that server GMs were writing "player reviews" of the server in a thinly veiled attempt to boost rankings.

Unsurprising that the server has now been "hacked" and donors are being told to issue chargebacks with their banks. (However, surprising that this happened within <3 weeks of opening.)  Looks like the cash grab has been completed.

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place. But that much was clearly apparent from the brief lifespan of this generic server.

Into the trash.

Quote from: Nanako on Jun 03, 2015, 11:43 AM
Meh, what are you implying? A lotta these people came to this place when they saw VividRO was down to see what happened. Then they saw this thread and wanted to reply.
At least, that's how it was for me!

You dont need an account to read the forum. But you need one to write a review. ehem proxy..

Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 03, 2015, 12:57 PM
The cronyism of the reality "crew" (who have been hard at work taking a dump all over anyone making a negative comment about the server) and comical lack of professionalism from the owner himself is very telling. It was bad enough that server GMs were writing "player reviews" of the server in a thinly veiled attempt to boost rankings.

Unsurprising that the server has now been "hacked" and donors are being told to issue chargebacks with their banks. (However, surprising that this happened within <3 weeks of opening.)  Looks like the cash grab has been completed.

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place. But that much was clearly apparent from the brief lifespan of this generic server.

Into the trash.

From what Ive read he applied as developer or smthn for a big game publisher. It was Blizzard, right? Would be too bad if someone would note your full name via google server owner search and give that publisher a hint what greedy bastard is trying to get a job at their company. Unfortunely he would get an insta-acceptance on lots of publishers, all in front EA Games..

Well, he need one to reply, as well the other is a 1 post account as well.

Aeon and Vivid are classic examples of today's struggle for a good admin to provide a brilliant server for a mixed group of players. After years of RO, I finally got back into PvM (to some extent) thanks to Vivid only to realize someone injected their e-penis into Vivid's SQL Database.

Firstly;
I feel like the main reason this server didn't blow up (like I thought it would) is because (imo)of the two following reasons:

1. Advertising: There was surely more scope of advertising pre-launch and more advertising would be possible post-launch but I guess Reality didn't get a sizeable amount of donations to simultaneously fund the staff and advertise.

2. Rates: Just like Aeon, with it's initial rates, big MR woe guilds wouldn't join because their main concern is with woe and not pvm (Although the pvm aspect is amazing on this server). If you see the pattern with big woe guilds in the mid rate scene, it's not hard to realize that they prefer servers where leveling and gearing is slightly faster. If you see the #3 MR servers on rms rankings, they are all 100x rates and upwards of that amount.

Secondly,
It's not hard to tell that Reality didn't make a profit out of Vivid and I feel bad because anyone who's played on the server can tell that he's extremely dedicated towards the server and has also invested a lot of time on the custom pvm aspect and, at the same time kept a little classic feel of RO. Furthermore, people will always hate regardless of what you do so I wouldn't be bothered with haters because that's easy, making a server as formidable as Vivid isn't. I'd further like to comment on how transparent the admin has been with everything that's taken place which has clearly not been in the case with majority of servers that have been hacked/gone through a ddos.   

Finally,
I'm not sure if the population would be the same because this is the second time an incident of such proportions has taken place but if he can promise that an incident like this wouldn't take place in the future, I'd be more than willing to give it a second try. Heck, I'd even donate more because I know that the money will be going towards the development of the server and not just a vintage Yrvine cycle.

Regardless of what happens, Vivid was fun and I hope it continues to be.

for once i agree with this guy ^

Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 03, 2015, 12:57 PM

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place.

This

/thread

Can anybody close it now? This is going nowhere.

How does being poor = immaturity lmfao.

I had some rough s*** happen last year in real life, which included losing my job. But I'm dealing with it.

This isn't even relevant to, well, anything.

-Reality

Quote from: Nanako on Jun 03, 2015, 11:43 AM
Meh, what are you implying? A lotta these people came to this place when they saw VividRO was down to see what happened. Then they saw this thread and wanted to reply.
At least, that's how it was for me!

That's how it was for me ^_^. Just wanted to see the server I'm on be okay. /ok

VividRO gets hacked
AriaRO announcing grand opening
seems legit, i blame Aliens

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
I've been up all night trying to fix it you piece of s*** cock sucker f*** face. The world doesn't need more ungrateful cunts like you.

-Reality

Edit: Why the hell are s*** and f*** censored but not cunts or cock. Either way, f*** you, I'm doing everything I can.

And I made no f***ing money off Aeon or Vivid. Wanna f***ing see my paypal account? I'm broke. Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

And this is everyone else's problem because? Perhaps you should get a job so you can fund these things instead of relying on people to bail you out of tight situations.  Also it doesn't help that you're swearing up a storm like a 16 year old who think's being a hard donkey online is cool. You failed at your server, so just deal with it and move on. People aren't cash cows, stop treating your players like financial livestock and maybe you'll get some where. If you're going to be greedy then people will catch onto it rather quickly. It's easy to tell a good server from a bad one. From the sounds of it you're quite bad when it comes to running servers. So for the sake of the RO community, don't host again.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 03, 2015, 03:18 PM
How does being poor = immaturity lmfao.

I had some rough s*** happen last year in real life, which included losing my job. But I'm dealing with it.

This isn't even relevant to, well, anything.

-Reality

Do you not read the s*** you post sir or are you just that stupid to begin with?  You say it's not relevant to anything, yet you just said the following in an earlier post.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

Also, you're throwing a tantrum about being poor like a child who didn't get their allowance. Stop RELYING on Ragnarok Online to bail you out of money issues. It's not going to happen. Another thing, your immaturity from my eyes stems from you not being able to take criticism at all and you end up acting like a brat and you're trying to place the blame on the public for your apartment being lost. Maybe I don't know if you got a J.O.B. like any real ADULT, you would have money. I don't give a damn if you're flipping burgers at McDonalds. Don't come into RO trying to host if you can't fund it and are relying on donations to do it for you. Not everyone is going to donate right off the bat and they're sure as hell not going to donate if the server is brand spanking new.  You really need to grow up and stop looking for a hugbox, you won't find it here friend.

It isn't a reply, Reality shouldn't swear, it will not help him that is true but beside that the post from Ivory isn't showing much of an adult level either.

You need to stop.

My problem with you is how you continued this when you weren't even aggravated in the first place.

Quote from: IvoryMouse on Jun 04, 2015, 11:33 AM
And this is everyone else's problem because? Perhaps you should get a job so you can fund these things instead of relying on people to bail you out of tight situations.  Also it doesn't help that you're swearing up a storm like a 16 year old who think's being a hard donkey online is cool. You failed at your server, so just deal with it and move on. People aren't cash cows, stop treating your players like financial livestock and maybe you'll get some where. If you're going to be greedy then people will catch onto it rather quickly. It's easy to tell a good server from a bad one. From the sounds of it you're quite bad when it comes to running servers. So for the sake of the RO community, don't host again.

When does he ever state it is everyone else's problem? Why do you attack him personally? You think you're giving advice? You aren't because the context has blown that all out of the window so any further comment on the dude is beyond criticism.

I don't even know how you jumped to the conclusions he was treating his players like financial live stock. Trying to make a profit and get things running smoothly is not treating your players like financial livestock. I don't care how he prices anything, that server from the looks of it was fairly balanced, and only an idiot would feel the need to donate to get an advantage there. Overall, his greed, if it even exists, is not what stop that server in his tracks so don't f*** assume it.

He swears in his posts and that suddenly makes him act like a 16 year old, where and when the f*** are you man? I swear all the f*** time in real life, I don't f*** think swearing is making me hard, it's just the s*** that comes out my mouth. Get with the f*** times.  Reality is pretty fed up with this s*** and yes he gets to be mad because he's human. What rule says he can't lash out? When did only 16 year olds lash out? Seriously it's 2015, everyone gets mad, everyone goes through hard times, and no one needs people like you stating the f*** obvious in an attacking manner.

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Do you not read the s*** you post sir or are you just that stupid to begin with?  You say it's not relevant to anything, yet you just said the following in an earlier post.

You have no real answer here do you? His poor status does not relate to immaturity whatsoever. Oh I'm poor I must be immature in handling a RO server. That's correlation not cause.

You have a point though, it is relevant to his personal life which is where you tripped. Just because someone's RO server is down in the s*** doesn't give you the GO AHEAD to just start criticizing him outside of RO. Telling him he should stop hosting server when he hasn't even done a damn thing to his player is a real shame.

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Also, you're throwing a tantrum about being poor like a child who didn't get their allowance. Stop RELYING on Ragnarok Online to bail you out of money issues. It's not going to happen. Another thing, your immaturity from my eyes stems from you not being able to take ..............

He wasn't the first to throw a tantrum and he was aggravated with a pretty insulting comment. None of that s*** was criticism and therefore it should be expected for him to get pretty flustered.
Relying on RO to make ends meet? Yeah bad idea!

Assuming that all Reality is doing nothing except RO? Another assumption.
Assuming Reality was trying to make a quick buck and that he thought people would donate right off the bat? You just keep jumping to these conclusion and your whole "devil's advocate" bull s*** just flew right out of the window!

TL:DR; you stopped being transparent, you stopped being the devil's advocate, and you aggravated a situation that never involved you.
Why anyone thinks you are being the big man here is beyond me.

Quote from: DroppedPJK on Jun 04, 2015, 06:32 PM

You have no real answer here do you? His poor status does not relate to immaturity whatsoever. Oh I'm poor I must be immature in handling a RO server. That's correlation not cause.

Clearly my point went far over your (and reality's) head. Let me spell it out for you: if you're spending money on a server, rather than basic living expenses, and as a result you are rendered homeless, you are immature as a person. Period.

That said, his immaturity is easily apparent from the teenage internet tough guy posts he and his little groupies have been dishing out.

Hope this helps.

Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 04, 2015, 11:40 PM
Clearly my point went far over your (and reality's) head. Let me spell it out for you: if you're spending money on a server, rather than basic living expenses, and as a result you are rendered homeless, you are immature as a person. Period.

That said, his immaturity is easily apparent from the teenage internet tough guy posts he and his little groupies have been dishing out.

Hope this helps.

Besides pre-development costs, which have now been paid back, the server is funded by the server. I'm not sure what you're going on about. That's what donations are supposed to be for. lmfao

-Reality

It was a good idea to start making a rndm post when it disappeared out the last 5 post rankings.

Dem pre-dev costs

Quote from: Reality on Jun 04, 2015, 11:56 PM
Besides pre-development costs, which have now been paid back, the server is funded by the server. I'm not sure what you're going on about. That's what donations are supposed to be for. lmfao

-Reality

That belief sir.
For starters, you can't just throw money on "Pre-Dev" costs and then solely rely on donations for the monthly bills of the server. This is the most common mistake server "owners" make. As what happens is pretty common sense. No one donates, server shuts down. At a bare minimum, you should have at least 4-6 months of funds invested for the server to keep up with bills in case there are no donations coming in.

I'm not siding with anyone here, but as IvoryMouse mentioned above, players shy away from donating to new servers. Hence, the early shutdowns. Nothing is wrong with relying on a server to pay personal bills, but to some extent, if you made a server for this purpose only, then the end story will be nearly the same all the time. Server failure as the Admin becomes more focused on making money rather than improving the server. So he starts adding items for personal(financial) gain and completely sets game play aside.

With that being said, we can't really control how people act. If they choose to curse like a sailor, than let them be. That's them, just do you. It all depends on how we view people. Don't like how some people act? Ignore em. Simple and happy life.  /ho

I played VividRo for like a week and I awaited its opening for almost a month. Server was pretty fun, if you played or read their forums (was active only on the early days of Vivid) you would notice the dedication Reality and his staff (and his friends) has on the server. I however decided to quit because of
    1.) AeonRo's history
    2.) Reality being too familiar with many of his friends
    3.) I played really early soo most features aren't implemented yet.. Can't blame vividro on that..

Bullet 2 is just something that in my opinion is not good. Every single hour I keep playing there I kept asking my if there'd be corruption and if these really close friends of Reality would get an unfair advantage over normal players. Do note that it is just my opinion and I have NOTHING to back it up.

Now as for what's happening with the threads, I think both sides has a point. But Reality now spamming swears is imo not good to look at, this person is still or was a leader and should try to act a little more professional especially when speaking as a representative of something.

VividRO shutting down leading to the loss of Reality's apartment imo is sad but it really is Reality's fault and he should be blamed for it. If you only rely on a private server as your source of income to live through life, then that imo is not a thought of someone that is mature. In effect, being branded immature.

Reading these reply chains, I don't think I'd ever play on a server with Reality included in it. Not because I find him incompetent, corrupt, or anything. But simply because his replies here aren't well-thought and that just leads me to think that I would not want to have this guy as a staff or a head of anything I play.

I'd like to reiterate that I really liked the server's settings and features. Server looked like a lot of work was put into it and the staff were trying their best to make the server a better place.

Quote from: DroppedPJK on Jun 04, 2015, 06:32 PM
You need to stop.

My problem with you is how you continued this when you weren't even aggravated in the first place.

When does he ever state it is everyone else's problem? Why do you attack him personally? You think you're giving advice? You aren't because the context has blown that all out of the window so any further comment on the dude is beyond criticism.

I don't even know how you jumped to the conclusions he was treating his players like financial live stock. Trying to make a profit and get things running smoothly is not treating your players like financial livestock. I don't care how he prices anything, that server from the looks of it was fairly balanced, and only an idiot would feel the need to donate to get an advantage there. Overall, his greed, if it even exists, is not what stop that server in his tracks so don't f*** assume it.

He swears in his posts and that suddenly makes him act like a 16 year old, where and when the f*** are you man? I swear all the f*** time in real life, I don't f*** think swearing is making me hard, it's just the s*** that comes out my mouth. Get with the f*** times.  Reality is pretty fed up with this s*** and yes he gets to be mad because he's human. What rule says he can't lash out? When did only 16 year olds lash out? Seriously it's 2015, everyone gets mad, everyone goes through hard times, and no one needs people like you stating the f*** obvious in an attacking manner.

You have no real answer here do you? His poor status does not relate to immaturity whatsoever. Oh I'm poor I must be immature in handling a RO server. That's correlation not cause.

You have a point though, it is relevant to his personal life which is where you tripped. Just because someone's RO server is down in the s*** doesn't give you the GO AHEAD to just start criticizing him outside of RO. Telling him he should stop hosting server when he hasn't even done a damn thing to his player is a real shame.


He wasn't the first to throw a tantrum and he was aggravated with a pretty insulting comment. None of that s*** was criticism and therefore it should be expected for him to get pretty flustered.
Relying on RO to make ends meet? Yeah bad idea!

Assuming that all Reality is doing nothing except RO? Another assumption.
Assuming Reality was trying to make a quick buck and that he thought people would donate right off the bat? You just keep jumping to these conclusion and your whole "devil's advocate" bull s*** just flew right out of the window!

TL:DR; you stopped being transparent, you stopped being the devil's advocate, and you aggravated a situation that never involved you.
Why anyone thinks you are being the big man here is beyond me.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

Open mouth. Insert foot.

Vivid. The server that HE runs is going down because PLAYERS don't join it or aren't joining it. Not liking it, whatever the reason is. Nobody likes his server. He is now blaming the general public for his server going down which in turn is going to cost him his apartment. THAT is the problem. You failed to see the obvious with your poor reading comprehension.

As far as "personally attacking" you must be daft. The man put his own sob story out there for the world to see and for everyone to criticize. Once again you further prove my point by Reality not being able to take criticism when you're being his white knight. How about you step out of this thread and let the owner be a big boy and answer to things directed at him instead of holding his hand. This isn't a f*** hugbox.

Also we can ONLY assume that he's only doing RO from the following.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

If you are putting your financial assets into a game that is going to cost you your own shelter then YES you are probably not working enough to make ends meet or not working at all. There's no other way to slice, he even admitted to the following.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 03, 2015, 03:18 PM
How does being poor = immaturity lmfao.

I had some rough s*** happen last year in real life, which included losing my job. But I'm dealing with it.

This isn't even relevant to, well, anything.

-Reality

So what I don't understand is this, you're sympathizing with a person who has stated they don't have a job and are trying to run a server with the hopes that donations will pour in enough to run the server. But here's the kicker, if he has to worry about covering server cost, then he's also going to have to deduct the following from the donations if he's covering his apartment too.

Monthly Rent/Bills.

Also from the sounds of him saying he's "losing" his apartment implies that he's also being evicted. So please, PLEASE don't go there. You are obviously someone trying to defend him when the man has put his personal life out here for the rest of us to see and now you're giving ME s*** for criticizing him when he put it out there to begin with? It's not a personal attack, it's the god awful f*** truth. If you need to rely on people's donations from an online game to cover your own rent and billing then there is a REAL problem with you. I'd understand differently if he was working and was putting a bit of money forward to get himself started, but the fact of the matter is this.

1. He lost his job.
2. Tried to start an RO server.
3. Lacked the funds to do so on his own. You need to spend money to make money.
4. Relied on server donations to bail himself out of a rock and a hard place with server cost and I QUOTE.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 04, 2015, 11:56 PM
Besides pre-development costs, which have now been paid back, the server is funded by the server. I'm not sure what you're going on about. That's what donations are supposed to be for. lmfao

-Reality

He said it himself, he is using server donations to try to cover the cost of the server itself and from the sounds of it "was" going well, which is fine. But to use the warped vision of "that's what donations are for." is pretty narrow minded. It pretty much means he's going to throw the money where holes come up IN MY OPINION. Since you think I'm personally attacking him. And honestly that's how it "should" be if you can do a sustained job of it. But what if his player count drops? What if people stop donating due to lack of fun content to explore? What if he can't meet that goal of X amount of money every week/month. Then what is he to do?

So once again. Open mouth, insert foot. You obviously don't know anything you're trying to rant at me about. The reason I am livid is because I came from a server where this s*** happened. So do not talk to me about personal attacks, when it's not personal when I've been there and done that. Perhaps people should get their s*** straight before attempting things like this in the first place.

Salty Reality is salty :D after few day ban expired, loged in,  he's mafian family QQ to him after some nasty words on main from air to me :D and here you go IP Ban :3 heuheu
Yeah yeah lack of images, sowwie for not being rat like most of ya x( but i still wuv u

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Funny part he removed access to flux ?module=character&action=online
Why? At one post i posted link with it and with msg what i saw what he done there :) or one of he's beloved GM.
Fun FACT : one of their GM was involved already on another server at Faking Population of Server, how? Using Vendors on map that regular player can't reach or find, last time on VividRO i counted around 15 of them. Named samilar to one letter KKKKK  , LLLLLLL and so on. More surprising one of merchant were lvl 11lvl / 10 joblv merchant, is that even possible? LOL anyways those merchants weren't vending at any of vending spots at town where people usually do it. :3

Anyways faking population is most honest thing that GM can do towards players <3

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no gm is involved faking population  /no1

Oh well, I believe all players requested an IP/Mac ban for you.
So far, I only saw you as only one being very rude on main, after the ban it was gone.
It seems you have a negative influence on entertainment and your comments are in line with that.
Anyway, this server is still running with a steady pop. It obvious isn't that bad at all.

Being rude by calling one of their gm's gay on mainchat? :D sure, anyways they faking population with merchants, server deserves another hack

From an outside perspective, why would you bother replying to this topic, and posting some profanity fulled replys.
It doesnt make sense to me, either your telling the truth and are very immature and get mad easily, or your lying and its starting to show.
Either way, both of those options dont make a good recipe for a GM/Moderator.

Oh and also, if you were so active in game why didint you provide a mute/ ban for a few days if the OP has been consistently posting garbage in #main.Doesnt make sense to me for someone to be able to post s*** for so long, if that was my server? #jail first day.Just saying.

stuff doesn't make sense from an outside perspective  /hmm

Oh and btw, if i had a rough time irl, last thing i would do is open  an ro serer. I love ro, but irl comes first. Just saying, that part of the story doesnt make sense at ALL.
Only reason i would open an ro server in that kind of circumstance is....
1:$
2: .... this option doesn't even make sense lol. i LOVE ro, but when it comes to important things in life like getting  back on track, getting a job im certinaly not gonna go home and make an ro server
the love for ro only goes so far, everyone knows that. Running an ro server in 2015 isnt gonna pay your bills........or is it? /hmm

So much advice on how to run a server from people who never ran one...
Generally speaking anyway, but if the shoe fits feel free to put it on.

OP knows how easy it is to piss off Reality, and Reality took the bait. But damn, is RMS even moderatated anymore? If these post were on a private server's forums, then we'd hear on RMS on how trolly the server is. But when it's done here, it just shows how RO is a dying game.

OP, thanks for the review; it seems you accomplished what you originally intended. Reality - good luck to you, I know how much time you put into this server and it's a shame it had to go out like this; however take this loss as a lesson and keep it moving - don't waste what you know by being discouraged and losing your cool.

Sup Kris