Honest review of VividRO

Started by Malfis, May 29, 2015, 01:03 AM

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Molmark

I think that the server is pretty good too  /ok

Reality you really should keep the users updated about the actual situation of the server, maybe trough the page of facebook.

I hope the server won't close, it is one of the few mid-rates servers that is balanced and no pay-to-win. It would be a pity if this project dies.

IFKTG

The cronyism of the reality "crew" (who have been hard at work taking a dump all over anyone making a negative comment about the server) and comical lack of professionalism from the owner himself is very telling. It was bad enough that server GMs were writing "player reviews" of the server in a thinly veiled attempt to boost rankings.

Unsurprising that the server has now been "hacked" and donors are being told to issue chargebacks with their banks. (However, surprising that this happened within <3 weeks of opening.)  Looks like the cash grab has been completed.

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place. But that much was clearly apparent from the brief lifespan of this generic server.

Into the trash.

exii

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Quote from: Nanako on Jun 03, 2015, 11:43 AM
Meh, what are you implying? A lotta these people came to this place when they saw VividRO was down to see what happened. Then they saw this thread and wanted to reply.
At least, that's how it was for me!
You dont need an account to read the forum. But you need one to write a review. ehem proxy..

Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 03, 2015, 12:57 PM
The cronyism of the reality "crew" (who have been hard at work taking a dump all over anyone making a negative comment about the server) and comical lack of professionalism from the owner himself is very telling. It was bad enough that server GMs were writing "player reviews" of the server in a thinly veiled attempt to boost rankings.

Unsurprising that the server has now been "hacked" and donors are being told to issue chargebacks with their banks. (However, surprising that this happened within <3 weeks of opening.)  Looks like the cash grab has been completed.

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place. But that much was clearly apparent from the brief lifespan of this generic server.

Into the trash.
From what Ive read he applied as developer or smthn for a big game publisher. It was Blizzard, right? Would be too bad if someone would note your full name via google server owner search and give that publisher a hint what greedy bastard is trying to get a job at their company. Unfortunely he would get an insta-acceptance on lots of publishers, all in front EA Games..
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Styx

Well, he need one to reply, as well the other is a 1 post account as well.

Kris

Aeon and Vivid are classic examples of today's struggle for a good admin to provide a brilliant server for a mixed group of players. After years of RO, I finally got back into PvM (to some extent) thanks to Vivid only to realize someone injected their e-penis into Vivid's SQL Database.

Firstly;
I feel like the main reason this server didn't blow up (like I thought it would) is because (imo)of the two following reasons:

1. Advertising: There was surely more scope of advertising pre-launch and more advertising would be possible post-launch but I guess Reality didn't get a sizeable amount of donations to simultaneously fund the staff and advertise.

2. Rates: Just like Aeon, with it's initial rates, big MR woe guilds wouldn't join because their main concern is with woe and not pvm (Although the pvm aspect is amazing on this server). If you see the pattern with big woe guilds in the mid rate scene, it's not hard to realize that they prefer servers where leveling and gearing is slightly faster. If you see the #3 MR servers on rms rankings, they are all 100x rates and upwards of that amount.

Secondly,
It's not hard to tell that Reality didn't make a profit out of Vivid and I feel bad because anyone who's played on the server can tell that he's extremely dedicated towards the server and has also invested a lot of time on the custom pvm aspect and, at the same time kept a little classic feel of RO. Furthermore, people will always hate regardless of what you do so I wouldn't be bothered with haters because that's easy, making a server as formidable as Vivid isn't. I'd further like to comment on how transparent the admin has been with everything that's taken place which has clearly not been in the case with majority of servers that have been hacked/gone through a ddos.   

Finally,
I'm not sure if the population would be the same because this is the second time an incident of such proportions has taken place but if he can promise that an incident like this wouldn't take place in the future, I'd be more than willing to give it a second try. Heck, I'd even donate more because I know that the money will be going towards the development of the server and not just a vintage Yrvine cycle.

Regardless of what happens, Vivid was fun and I hope it continues to be.
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hatehero

for once i agree with this guy ^

Nano

Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 03, 2015, 12:57 PM

If you're so poor that opening a RO server will put you out of a home (nice sob story btw), you're probably too immature to run one in the first place.

This

/thread

Can anybody close it now? This is going nowhere.

Reality

How does being poor = immaturity lmfao.

I had some rough s*** happen last year in real life, which included losing my job. But I'm dealing with it.

This isn't even relevant to, well, anything.

-Reality

Kyuurei

Quote from: Nanako on Jun 03, 2015, 11:43 AM
Meh, what are you implying? A lotta these people came to this place when they saw VividRO was down to see what happened. Then they saw this thread and wanted to reply.
At least, that's how it was for me!
That's how it was for me ^_^. Just wanted to see the server I'm on be okay. /ok

Malfis

VividRO gets hacked
AriaRO announcing grand opening
seems legit, i blame Aliens

IvoryMouse

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Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
I've been up all night trying to fix it you piece of s*** cock sucker f*** face. The world doesn't need more ungrateful cunts like you.

-Reality

Edit: Why the hell are s*** and f*** censored but not cunts or cock. Either way, f*** you, I'm doing everything I can.

And I made no f***ing money off Aeon or Vivid. Wanna f***ing see my paypal account? I'm broke. Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

And this is everyone else's problem because? Perhaps you should get a job so you can fund these things instead of relying on people to bail you out of tight situations.  Also it doesn't help that you're swearing up a storm like a 16 year old who think's being a hard donkey online is cool. You failed at your server, so just deal with it and move on. People aren't cash cows, stop treating your players like financial livestock and maybe you'll get some where. If you're going to be greedy then people will catch onto it rather quickly. It's easy to tell a good server from a bad one. From the sounds of it you're quite bad when it comes to running servers. So for the sake of the RO community, don't host again.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 03, 2015, 03:18 PM
How does being poor = immaturity lmfao.

I had some rough s*** happen last year in real life, which included losing my job. But I'm dealing with it.

This isn't even relevant to, well, anything.

-Reality

Do you not read the s*** you post sir or are you just that stupid to begin with?  You say it's not relevant to anything, yet you just said the following in an earlier post.

Quote from: Reality on Jun 02, 2015, 08:00 PM
Vivid going down is most likely causing me to lose my apartment at the end of this month. So yeah. Eat a f***ing d***.

Also, you're throwing a tantrum about being poor like a child who didn't get their allowance. Stop RELYING on Ragnarok Online to bail you out of money issues. It's not going to happen. Another thing, your immaturity from my eyes stems from you not being able to take criticism at all and you end up acting like a brat and you're trying to place the blame on the public for your apartment being lost. Maybe I don't know if you got a J.O.B. like any real ADULT, you would have money. I don't give a damn if you're flipping burgers at McDonalds. Don't come into RO trying to host if you can't fund it and are relying on donations to do it for you. Not everyone is going to donate right off the bat and they're sure as hell not going to donate if the server is brand spanking new.  You really need to grow up and stop looking for a hugbox, you won't find it here friend.
Looking for: English/NA RO Server. 255/50 Pre-Renewal (Non-Kiel Based) Server OR Highly Custom 2nd Job Renewal Server. No Pay To Win.

Styx

It isn't a reply, Reality shouldn't swear, it will not help him that is true but beside that the post from Ivory isn't showing much of an adult level either.

DroppedPJK

You need to stop.

My problem with you is how you continued this when you weren't even aggravated in the first place.

Quote from: IvoryMouse on Jun 04, 2015, 11:33 AM
And this is everyone else's problem because? Perhaps you should get a job so you can fund these things instead of relying on people to bail you out of tight situations.  Also it doesn't help that you're swearing up a storm like a 16 year old who think's being a hard donkey online is cool. You failed at your server, so just deal with it and move on. People aren't cash cows, stop treating your players like financial livestock and maybe you'll get some where. If you're going to be greedy then people will catch onto it rather quickly. It's easy to tell a good server from a bad one. From the sounds of it you're quite bad when it comes to running servers. So for the sake of the RO community, don't host again.

When does he ever state it is everyone else's problem? Why do you attack him personally? You think you're giving advice? You aren't because the context has blown that all out of the window so any further comment on the dude is beyond criticism.

I don't even know how you jumped to the conclusions he was treating his players like financial live stock. Trying to make a profit and get things running smoothly is not treating your players like financial livestock. I don't care how he prices anything, that server from the looks of it was fairly balanced, and only an idiot would feel the need to donate to get an advantage there. Overall, his greed, if it even exists, is not what stop that server in his tracks so don't f*** assume it.

He swears in his posts and that suddenly makes him act like a 16 year old, where and when the f*** are you man? I swear all the f*** time in real life, I don't f*** think swearing is making me hard, it's just the s*** that comes out my mouth. Get with the f*** times.  Reality is pretty fed up with this s*** and yes he gets to be mad because he's human. What rule says he can't lash out? When did only 16 year olds lash out? Seriously it's 2015, everyone gets mad, everyone goes through hard times, and no one needs people like you stating the f*** obvious in an attacking manner.

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Do you not read the s*** you post sir or are you just that stupid to begin with?  You say it's not relevant to anything, yet you just said the following in an earlier post.

You have no real answer here do you? His poor status does not relate to immaturity whatsoever. Oh I'm poor I must be immature in handling a RO server. That's correlation not cause.

You have a point though, it is relevant to his personal life which is where you tripped. Just because someone's RO server is down in the s*** doesn't give you the GO AHEAD to just start criticizing him outside of RO. Telling him he should stop hosting server when he hasn't even done a damn thing to his player is a real shame.


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Also, you're throwing a tantrum about being poor like a child who didn't get their allowance. Stop RELYING on Ragnarok Online to bail you out of money issues. It's not going to happen. Another thing, your immaturity from my eyes stems from you not being able to take ..............

He wasn't the first to throw a tantrum and he was aggravated with a pretty insulting comment. None of that s*** was criticism and therefore it should be expected for him to get pretty flustered.
Relying on RO to make ends meet? Yeah bad idea!

Assuming that all Reality is doing nothing except RO? Another assumption.
Assuming Reality was trying to make a quick buck and that he thought people would donate right off the bat? You just keep jumping to these conclusion and your whole "devil's advocate" bull s*** just flew right out of the window!

TL:DR; you stopped being transparent, you stopped being the devil's advocate, and you aggravated a situation that never involved you.
Why anyone thinks you are being the big man here is beyond me.

IFKTG

Quote from: DroppedPJK on Jun 04, 2015, 06:32 PM

You have no real answer here do you? His poor status does not relate to immaturity whatsoever. Oh I'm poor I must be immature in handling a RO server. That's correlation not cause.


Clearly my point went far over your (and reality's) head. Let me spell it out for you: if you're spending money on a server, rather than basic living expenses, and as a result you are rendered homeless, you are immature as a person. Period.

That said, his immaturity is easily apparent from the teenage internet tough guy posts he and his little groupies have been dishing out.

Hope this helps.

Reality

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Quote from: IFKTG on Jun 04, 2015, 11:40 PM
Clearly my point went far over your (and reality's) head. Let me spell it out for you: if you're spending money on a server, rather than basic living expenses, and as a result you are rendered homeless, you are immature as a person. Period.

That said, his immaturity is easily apparent from the teenage internet tough guy posts he and his little groupies have been dishing out.

Hope this helps.

Besides pre-development costs, which have now been paid back, the server is funded by the server. I'm not sure what you're going on about. That's what donations are supposed to be for. lmfao

-Reality