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Offline devilsnevercry

Sylvanas RO
« on: Jul 30, 2009, 07:00 pm »
Before Reading I am reviewing off of what I noticed in the time I played, you are free to check this server out and judge for yourself, again and most importantly this is only what I noticed.

Server: Sylvanas RO

Stability: 9/10

I notice lag from time to time just here and there.

Availability: 10/10

Community:

Friendliness: 4/10

Trying to talk, and you get bashed,flamed and all if you say one thing somebody finds funny. Feels like its a bunch of 4channers around a lot of the time. Players report you for trivial things, like expecting you to wait for them to get done gathering speed pots on 5 accounts(did cuss and rant at my friend and still reported my friend for grief play). Few people that are decent to talk to, sad to say they were guild mates.

Eventfulness: 5/10
Automated events, so there are events(Devil Square and some Monster invasion). Never saw a GM run an event, something actually fun rather than who can kill the monsters not everyone has been on the server long enough to kill faster than others.

Game Masters or GM:

Friendliness: 4/10

From when I did talk a GM during the WoE problems, and when I reported a bug, rather unpleasant. Reason for saying it was unpleasant, I had reported a bug on iron wrist that my blacksmith was not able to wear it. Hours later the GM was on looking for ppl to test it, I had pm them saying I reported the bug and was still a blacksmith at the moment but would be reborning shortly, No reply for awhile. I continued to level and had just reborned and started leveling with my friends in a party, at which point I was recalled by the GM and was called a liar saying I wasnt a blacksmith, I told her I would like to go back to leveling and would like it if she could warp me to my party(didnt happen).

Availability: 2/10
The times I did see a GM on, was to reloadscripts(during woe messing it up) and then to reboot it a few times during the same woe "due to a bug/problem". The other as the mentioned above moment with the iron wrist. The only other time was when i first joined the server and my friend was informing me you can warp to the SM map with the warper, so curious I went out there with SM at the portal and the GM sitting with people while it was being killed(didnt stick around dunno what was going on).

Helpfulness: 6/10
Problem with the iron wrist could of handled better giving some lead way.

Game-Play:

Economy: 4/10

The economy isnt really there drop rate is 1k meaning easy to get money and items are jacked way higher. Merchants over pricing items, easier to hunt the item itself than to pay. Donations can be obtained in game but not that easy, selling of them is outrageous(donations being sold for in game money those who donate can easily be rich.)

Class Balance: 7/10

Classes over all fairly balanced, the fact you can buy alot of items a class uses tips into the favor of classes.

Guild Competition: 5/10

The guild competition is fairly alright, though if your a new trying guild you get bashed for not being able to take on the bigger guilds.

PVP: They have PVP rooms but it might as well as be WoE, players only attacked people not in their guild, let alone if you did kill somebody they would start double teaming you if not more and then calling you noob etc.


To be more extent the first WoE SE was "bugged", which it was bugged for over 30 minutes. While me and my guild couldn't find any reason for there to be a problem with it the GM somehow found a bug. Which the noticing of bugs only happened at convenient times. While talking to the GM about it they stated it wasnt their fault yet eAthena's problem. Which makes me wonder if they test things out before running them. I know alot of big servers such as Legend and they have test servers which they have scripts sit on before running them in the server. Blaming eAthena rather than saying "We did not check it out before implementing this" last I checked eAthena does have releases that can be buggy, but they dont force a server to implement it.

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So overall I would not tell any of my friends to join this server, you can check it out for yourself maybe they can change. I have gone off to better servers myself though.
  Will the donors complain? maybe, but they aren't what run my network, I run it, and so does my blood and sweat.

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Sylvanas RO
« on: Jul 30, 2009, 07:00 pm »

Offline drdanjc

*resolved*
« Reply #1 on: Jul 31, 2009, 12:56 am »
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« Last Edit: Jan 12, 2011, 11:58 pm by drdanjc »

Offline devilsnevercry

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #2 on: Jul 31, 2009, 09:08 am »
lol i knew you would reply, as you cant handle  a bad review about your server. I was already proven what I had been told, I refuse to go to a server where GMs show favoritism.

Just so you ,know, nobody could get pass the first barrier as nobody was attacking it, cant get past what you dont try destroying right? That's GENIUS
« Last Edit: Jul 31, 2009, 09:11 am by devilsnevercry »
  Will the donors complain? maybe, but they aren't what run my network, I run it, and so does my blood and sweat.

Offline Syntax

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #3 on: Jul 31, 2009, 10:04 am »
Anyone else noticed ANY reviews on Sylvanas RO turn into a flame war and end up getting closed compared to other server reviews?  Who are replying to these Sylvanas RO reviews?  The GMs themselves,  coincidence?  You could tell the maturity level and their professionalism if they can't take criticism and learn to better themselves and their server after many people wrote "bad" reviews about it.

Amayax

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Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #4 on: Jul 31, 2009, 10:12 am »
I lol'd at the part where they blamed eAthena.

If it really was eAthena's fault don't you think some hopeless nub who is trying to make money will spam their forums about it? Yea, no, it didn't happen. I also don't see any bug reports about it too. Again, it didn't happen.

Another thing is, I have two server's, one is SVN 13342, other is 139--M. Why is it that on both of them I have WoE S.E working the way it is suppose to? Yet for some reason you don't.

Don't start blaming eAthena for your own incompetence. Players will respect you better if you just admit to your faults, instead of trying to con your way out of blame.

My two cents.

Offline Omi

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #5 on: Jul 31, 2009, 11:03 am »
Just to reinforce Amayax's statement;

When eAthena was implementing SE's script, they had about 10 official players to test both officials and eA's and fix out most common bugs.  Within about 2 days, the scripts, excluding the scripts with executing guardian respawns and barricade restoration, were all working completely fine.

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First, no one could get through the barricades, then when a guild rebuilt the barricades, the same problem happened.

Probably because you set it to require all barricades to be destroyed? 

Offline tiawyn

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #6 on: Jul 31, 2009, 11:42 am »
Anyone else noticed ANY reviews on Sylvanas RO turn into a flame war and end up getting closed compared to other server reviews?  Who are replying to these Sylvanas RO reviews?  The GMs themselves,  coincidence?  You could tell the maturity level and their professionalism if they can't take criticism and learn to better themselves and their server after many people wrote "bad" reviews about it.
I'm kind of confused at the wording, but I think that the GMs reply to the "bad reviews" so that A) they can justify the means, good or bad. B) See what the other players think without asking them in person, so you can get an honest opinion. C) It proves that the GMs care what other people think.

I myself would check the reviews and maybe apologize for some misunderstandings or fix things that are needed to be fixed so the server is enjoyable for everyone.

Offline devilsnevercry

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #7 on: Jul 31, 2009, 11:55 am »
I think he is stating the ppl who do reply are the GMs or are reaping benefits from the GM, at which point any review that isnt sunshine and rainbows gets torn apart and turned into something like his post did.
  Will the donors complain? maybe, but they aren't what run my network, I run it, and so does my blood and sweat.

Offline tiawyn

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #8 on: Jul 31, 2009, 11:59 am »
Well, like everything in life, the only things that are reported here are bad news. There are rare occasions when it was a "good" review and it's posted here. But the player who responds to the GM is the one that makes it ugly, not necessarily the GM.

Offline devilsnevercry

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #9 on: Jul 31, 2009, 12:32 pm »
The way the GM responded to teh guys review. Trying to say he was off on basing woe off of PvP, which it rather is like a group of more players beating on the less numbered and joking on them saying they are useless etc. I am not saying it needs to be sunshine and rainbows but when another guild jokes on a newer guild yet if anything is said against the other guild joking on them or anything it turns into a problem? Nobody will ever fully agree, but this 50/50 stuff that goes on needs to go.

The GM talks about how both ppl that can do anything cant because of s*** computers, I would think that if in that case happened I would hire a third person that can look over the server or that I would of had said files/programs/tools on a hard drive. Professionalism hard to find but with common sense and planning for worse case scenarios is always smart, specialyl with such a "high population". Most populations of alot of server have a fair amount of autotraders.
  Will the donors complain? maybe, but they aren't what run my network, I run it, and so does my blood and sweat.

Descent

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Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #10 on: Jul 31, 2009, 10:33 pm »
I would REALLY be happy if people didn't attempt to turn every Server Review into a debate flamefest.

People are going to have their opinions, be it positive or negative.
« Last Edit: Aug 01, 2009, 10:05 am by Descent »

Offline drdanjc

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« Reply #11 on: Aug 01, 2009, 05:01 am »
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« Last Edit: Jan 12, 2011, 11:58 pm by drdanjc »

Offline devilsnevercry

Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #12 on: Aug 01, 2009, 10:12 am »
This is starting into a debate, and I am sorry drdanjc, but your just gonna have to get over it your server isn't liked by all. Congrats on breaking a population, never brought that up dont see why you did. Stop starting how your posts are so much nicer/professional or w.e. Seriously it doesnt make you better. Let people comment without you having to tear what they say apart. All in all you should admit your faults instead of pushing teh fault to eAthena, they are nice enough to supply you with scripts and all open to the public they do their job at keeping them fixed as much as possible, they dont implement the scripts or anything you have to.

All in all I hope the debating can stop I dont want another thread closed out n_n; As for me I have found better servers with capable Admins/GMs that test things multiple times before adding.
  Will the donors complain? maybe, but they aren't what run my network, I run it, and so does my blood and sweat.

Amayax

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Re: Sylvanas RO
« Reply #13 on: Aug 01, 2009, 10:13 am »
@Amayax: Your candor appears a bit hostile. We've already owned up to any mistakes and explained the reasons for them. We do have a test server that we use constantly for nearly 100% of everything we do. I'm currently on the test server since my PC was fixed today. We are not incompetant at all. Life happens. Things don't go the way we want them to. You should not judge our abilities for circumstances out of our control, and we will not judge yours. The player in question conversed in a disrespectful manner, and I should not be judged on an issue that is not my specialty when all efforts were being focused on applying a remedy to the situation. I appreciate your two cents, but I hope you appreciate mine.

Well, no kidding. You or someone on your staff is blaming eA for something that is not eA's fault, but your's (or whoever deals with that stuff). Yes, life happens. But doesn't mean when it does happen you blame someone else for your own mistakes.
So, you owned up to your mistakes and explained the reasons for them? Did you at any point own up to your mistake of blaming eA for your incompetence? Abilities for circumstances out of your control? Really, what was out of your control? By converse I assume you mean writting a review? New Flash. Not everyone will like your server or how you handle it. This is also a review of their experience. What is so wrong if this is their experience?

If your server is a truely good server with lots of good rep it wouldnt matter if 1-2 or more people hate it and write a bad review on RMS.

Btw, you seem to fail to read this part of my post:

Quote from: Amayax
If it really was eAthena's fault don't you think some hopeless nub who is trying to make money will spam their forums about it? Yea, no, it didn't happen. I also don't see any bug reports about it too. Again, it didn't happen.

Another thing is, I have two server's, one is SVN 13342, other is 139--M. Why is it that on both of them I have WoE S.E working the way it is suppose to? Yet for some reason you don't.

With that being said, this is what makes your Staff Team incompetent. Because you are blaming them for something that is entirely not eA's fault. Hell, your blaming something/someone that isn't your own staff to con your way out of blame.

"Oh know, Don't worry guys! It isn't the GM's fault. GM's can never do any wrong!! We're doing everything we can to fix eA's fault."

As Omi said all the bugs with the script have been worked out, and as I said, it has been worked out for a long time now. Just look at my revisions. Now, if you customized WoE S.E in some way, that would be a reason as to why it didn't work because whoever edited it forgot to do something or did something wrong, and then you can atleast tell us that so we won't be so hard on you about it.

Either way, it is still your server's fault, not eA's.

Quote from: drdanjc
It does not matter if eA broke it or if a player broke it.
But it does matter who gets the blame.

Side note: I feel like I'm constantly repeating myself. =.="""

Offline drdanjc

*resolved*
« Reply #14 on: Aug 01, 2009, 06:36 pm »
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« Last Edit: Jan 12, 2011, 11:58 pm by drdanjc »