EssenceRO Review

Started by kiravalentine, Apr 20, 2012, 10:43 AM

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Annie Felis

Well said, Kira.  If you remain anon, it doesn't affect me at all.  Sooner or later Paradox will probably figure out who you are since he's spending so much time and energy to get rid of you, so I hope you have a different server to play on by then.  It's good that some of the things are cleaned up, but it's too little too late, and only because of the negative attention drawn to the server because of this topic.

Paradox: The use of "curse words" is not the same as using racial and sexist slurs.  When I asked a question on #main, three people responded, two called me "faggot" and "dumb donkey nigga".  Profanity had little to do with me being offended.  Don't try to blame your server's crass behavior on other people's reactions.

Smoke

Whoa.. that diaper joke.. what is wrong with you kids. I've read enough.

kiravalentine

Quote from: Annie Felis on May 11, 2012, 03:56 PM
Well said, Kira.  If you remain anon, it doesn't affect me at all.  Sooner or later Paradox will probably figure out who you are since he's spending so much time and energy to get rid of you, so I hope you have a different server to play on by then.  It's good that some of the things are cleaned up, but it's too little too late, and only because of the negative attention drawn to the server because of this topic.

Like I said earlier, if Paradox is that desperate to find out my identity, I will reveal it after my next post.  /no1
I hope the server itself can improve so I don't have to change servers. Like many out there, we've spent alot
of time and thoughts on our characters. My next post is going to be short but nevertheless important. If there
are etahena/ragnarok developers out there, the next post will require your professional judgement.  /no1

papachan

Quote from: Paradox924X on May 10, 2012, 07:01 PM
It's amusing that you choose to post screenshots without full context, and that you register with another player's name as if in some way to remain anonymous (whilst clearly breaking server rules in terms of harassment/impersonation, which is apparent just by taking a look just at some of the character names you own, as are visible in your screenshots).

Some of the characters you've created: Kira Gaylentine, Jizz Kisame, Jin Bukkake, Jin KissMyAss (among several others).
The guild you lead with your character, Jin Bukkake, is 'Faggotish Intent', with the following emblem:


All the characters you posted the screenshots with were deleted by you, I assume in an attempt to hide who you are and to prevent the above information about your hypocriticism/lies from coming out.

To respond to some of the claims you made in your post:

  • We allow the use of profanity and expletives, though not in a derogatory or hurtful form towards others. All you have to do is post an Abuse Report on our forums and we take care of the problem. Most, if not all, of the players you have posted screenshots of are repeat rule offenders and had already been adequately punished for their transgressions.
  • As for your laughable claim of the server supporting discussion of child pornography or anything of the sort, I'm sure you already know (but conveniently chose to ignore while making this topic) we condone nothing of the sort and players who engage in such discussions are warned immediately and then punished accordingly if they continue.
  • I'm not even sure what you could possibly have derived from the conversation about the discussion on the earthquake that occurred off the coast of the Indonesia except that it was astounding, terrible and all of us at EssenceRO hoped for the best for anyone involved.
Now, if the use of expletives, 'curse words' and other such language offends you, it's your prerogative to either not participate in Main chat (@exit Main) or leave the server as you see fit. Although, judging by your character/guild records, you seem to be playing the part of innocent bystander whilst really just being a massive hypocrite and troll.

He probably did this because (judging from the hostility of your post) he would most likely be banned from playing your server. And seeing how you went great lengths to find out who he was, I wouldn't doubt it.

EssenceRO has gone from great, to just plain bad. After Tira went completely MIA, it was just bound to fail. GMs joining guilds and giving members benefits. The head admin can troll on main and talk about child sex, but if someone "trolls" him back, they'd get banned.

Really Paradox? Child pornography? This server should be de-listed. Its one thing is players talk about it and get punished. But who punishes the head admin when they say immoral and negative behavior?

kiravalentine

#19
It seems like BattleGrounds (BG) has a cult following here and players would like to know out about its future.
Here is a short report due to popular demand. I noticed something unusual about BG so read on.

Both BG Flavius and Tierra 5v5 and 7v7 was up and running fine untill the change in ownership. Some time
back I witnessed Paradox saying "I don' give a f**k about BG" in the main channel. I thought it was just a joke
untill the whole BG system went down for more than 6 months. Tierra 7v7 and 10v10 was recently brought
back due to popular demand. Despite that, BG remains broken due to various unfixed flaws. Certain skills
was disabled in BG, making the game unbalanced. Classes such as sinx/gx now lack the backsliding skill.
A new bug emerged which rewards the team with only 2 badges instead of 6, after winning Tierra 7v7.



Its broadcast system was DELIBERATELY broken. The amount of players in BG room was not broadcasted publicly.
The only broadcast you will see is when the game starts. This forced players to use broadcast scrolls to recruit.
Recruiting in #main will get them muted. Broadcast scrolls can be obtained by 2 ways. 1 is by exchanging 3 ero
minigame tokens for 1 scroll, obtainable from Survival Arena. The second, is by exchanging 1 Donation Credit for 40 scrolls.

Now here comes the SCANDALOUS part. The screenshot below is taken from ERO's website: http://www.essence-ro.com/purchase/
"Items in this shop are purchased using donation credits and not real money. Donation Credits are rewarded to players who make
a donation to our server"

That is just another sneaky way to say "donation credits are effectively purchased with real money"
because I'm sure Paradox accepts only real money as donations to his server.
If the only legitimate way to broadcast BG is through the use of broadcast scroll, who will benefit from it??!!
/omg




This is a screenshot taken from ERO's website. Look at the Flavius part ...



This is a screenshot taken from eathena's support forum. Eathena is the software used to run RO servers
Here is the actual site: http://www.eathena.ws/board/index.php?showtopic=286265


So who is lying and who is telling the truth? Any developers reading this care to clarify?

To BG players who are reading this, I've completed your request. I've seen people get
muted by Paradox just for mentioning about BG in #main. It's different in this forum. If
you have your opinion this is a good time and place to make it heard.

The fact that EssenceRO now belongs to Paradox and he has the final say as to
whether BG will be fixed or not, remains undisputed.

However :
Keep in mind, players have the equal right to know about the future of BG. Why? Simply
because they will decide whether to remain in EssenceRO or change servers. To continue
with their donation or just stop donating untill BG is fixed and this scam removed.

D1gITaLMaYhEm

Quote from: kiravalentine on May 12, 2012, 07:45 AM
It seems like BattleGrounds (BG) has a cult following here and players would like to know out about its future.
Here is a short report due to popular demand. I noticed something unusual about BG so read on.

Both BG Flavius and Tierra 5v5 and 7v7 was up and running fine untill the change in ownership. Some time
back I witnessed Paradox saying "I don' give a f**k about BG" in the main channel. I thought it was just a joke
untill the whole BG system went down for more than 6 months. Tierra 7v7 and 10v10 was recently brought
back due to popular demand. Despite that, BG remains broken due to various unfixed flaws. Certain skills
was disabled in BG, making the game unbalanced. Classes such as sinx/gx now lack the backsliding skill.
A new bug emerged which rewards the team with only 2 badges instead of 6, after winning Tierra 7v7.



Its broadcast system was DELIBERATELY broken. The amount of players in BG room was not broadcasted publicly.
The only broadcast you will see is when the game starts. This forced players to use broadcast scrolls to recruit.
Recruiting in #main will get them muted. Broadcast scrolls can be obtained by 2 ways. 1 is by exchanging 3 ero
minigame tokens for 1 scroll, obtainable from Survival Arena. The second, is by exchanging 1 Donation Credit for 40 scrolls.

Now here comes the SCANDALOUS part. The screenshot below is taken from ERO's website: http://www.essence-ro.com/purchase/
"Items in this shop are purchased using donation credits and not real money. Donation Credits are rewarded to players who make
a donation to our server"

That is just another sneaky way to say "donation credits are effectively purchased with real money"
because I'm sure Paradox accepts only real money as donations to his server.
If the only legitimate way to broadcast BG is through the use of broadcast scroll, who will benefit from it??!!
/omg



This is a screenshot taken from ERO's website. Look at the Flavius part ...



This is a screenshot taken from eathena's support forum. Eathena is the software used to run RO servers
Here is the actual site: http://www.eathena.ws/board/index.php?showtopic=286265

So who is lying and who is telling the truth? Any developers reading this care to clarify?

To BG players who are reading this, I've completed your request. I've seen people get
muted by Paradox just for mentioning about BG in #main. It's different in this forum. If
you have your opinion this is a good time and place to make it heard. The fact that
EssenceRO now belongs to Paradox and he has the final say as to whether BG will be
fixed or not, remains undisputed.

However :
Keep in mind, players have the equal right to know about the future of BG. Why? Simply
because they, have the final say whether to remain in EssenceRO or change servers. To
continue with their donation or just stop donating untill BG is fixed and this scam removed.


Long post din't read that much but as far as the "Items in this shop are purchased using donation credits and not real money." i think you will find that message on pretty much every RO private server your going to play on.

Gravity don't want people to make money off there game engine but the material itself is open source also with many other private servers you are most likely going to find the message "All donations go towards server costs" these messages are just precautions taken by the owner to assure that legal troubles don't follow if gravity ever decides to take a action on there server (Although i'am quite sure gravity could sue a bunch of server right this second if they wanted too)  lol.

Hardly Scandalous.

Chiffon Fairchild

To Kira,
u did great in finding all these.. n giving an honest review about wats going on in eRO..
i hope more of it will come soon  /no1

To Paradox,
Dun waste time trying to track down Kira down just to ban him or so, these things he posted should b taken as valuable feedback for improvements and things that u should focus on solving 1st then just wasting time trackin him to ban... he didnt do anything wrong yet, u should perhaps ask most of the players for their feedback for server improvements...
of wat i haf noticed, u only want to try to make players life harder in ur patches or updates, more buffed up MVPs and stuffs, more "balancing" in ur terms, those arent wat players wan to see... what abt BGs? 3rd classes? some work some doesnt work? event hosting? none of it is happening in ur server right now.. except for more rude behaviours from others...
with a server that has nuttin new except for more n more imbal MVPs n "balancing" of classes... and not much effort is put into advertising for new players to join, server population declining is just a matter of time... Please, paradox... this isnt anything against u, its a wake-up call that u should do something now...

papachan

#22
Quote from: D1gITaLMaYhEm on May 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
Long post din't read that much but as far as the "Items in this shop are purchased using donation credits and not real money." i think you will find that message on pretty much every RO private server your going to play on.

Gravity don't want people to make money off there game engine but the material itself is open source also with many other private servers you are most likely going to find the message "All donations go towards server costs" these messages are just precautions taken by the owner to assure that legal troubles don't follow if gravity ever decides to take a action on there server (Although i'am quite sure gravity could sue a bunch of server right this second if they wanted too)  lol.

Hardly Scandalous.
Should read the whole thing, instead of commenting on one certain part. You might have gotten the reason why he mentioned donations in the first place.

Saiku

Really?
First of all, there is some bias in this review.
"Kira doesn't do BG"
tyvm
Second of all, As player of essenceRO, I know that Jizz Kisame or some "slang" of the real Kira Valentine's char is not the REAL Kira. and I really appreciate that Paradox keep this server alive. Other than that. Most of the review (bias and sometimes it's true)

papachan

Regradless if the person who is posting is actually Kira Valentine or used a similar name compared to a player in EssenceRO is besides the point. The OP specifically said he was not going to post in a name in which he would be harassed by Paradox.

Seriously people, read the thread before commenting. Its hard now a days to read I guess, requires so much concentration and actual reading, burrrr~

edit: I just notice my last two post seem kind of hostile, so I apologize for that. I just do not support a server who talks about raping children as a form of "fun" or "humor". Its disgusting, the server admin and their GMs should be ashamed.

kiravalentine

#25
Quote from: Chiffon Fairchild on May 12, 2012, 09:08 AM
To Kira,
u did great in finding all these.. n giving an honest review about wats going on in eRO..
i hope more of it will come soon  /no1

Thanks for the support Chiff, it feels good to know that all our hardwork is appreciated.

Quote from: papachan on May 12, 2012, 12:24 PM
Should read the whole thing, instead of commenting on one certain part. You might have gotten the
reason why he mentioned donations in the first place.

Thanks papachan for clearing that out. D1gITaLMaYhEm  /heh , my posts are long and at times, can be difficult
to comprehend.  I suppose that is a small price to pay when every bit of it is substantiated by solid proof.

Quote from: papachan on May 12, 2012, 12:31 PM
Regradless if the person who is posting is actually Kira Valentine or used a similar name compared
to a player in EssenceRO is besides the point. The OP specifically said he was not going to post in
a name in which he would be harassed by Paradox.

papachan:
Again many thanks to your analytical mind for clearing any misunderstanding towards my posts.
The many hours me and my team spent to fight negative elements such as child porn jokes,
admin/gm biasness and others, did not go to waste. Your help allows me to take a much needed
rest while preparing for my next post.   /no1




papachan

#26
So I just visited EssenceRO forums and its server to see this for myself. It's worse then its actually being described here. The conversations on main chat, and the lack of active GMs (only one GM named "Okale" and he was afk.) It's sad to see this server go to waste.

A guild conquers all three 2.0 castles? How many castles do you even need for 2.0 to accommodate three guilds (or so as mentioned in the first post.) But I guess its just personal preference.


edit: typos

Myteriouss

Quote from: D1gITaLMaYhEm on May 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
Long post din't read that much but as far as the "Items in this shop are purchased using donation credits and not real money." i think you will find that message on pretty much every RO private server your going to play on.

Gravity don't want people to make money off there game engine but the material itself is open source also with many other private servers you are most likely going to find the message "All donations go towards server costs" these messages are just precautions taken by the owner to assure that legal troubles don't follow if gravity ever decides to take a action on there server (Although i'am quite sure gravity could sue a bunch of server right this second if they wanted too)  lol.

Hardly Scandalous.

This is 100% Right. Majority of private servers out there now have this Saying on all their donations in either the same writing (especially if it's a FluxCP/Integrated FluxCP website). Although Ragnarok itself is an open-source, credit is STILL DUE to GRAVITY regardless whatever is done to the server itself. As an owner, you're building things on TOP of Gravity's codes and emulator.  Which in the end, still belongs to Gravity. Without their Emulator getting out one way or another, or even the lovely program BrowEdit that a lot of mappers love to use, it was all Gravity and without these things being released to us, we will have nothing for our Private servers or even have a Server for that matter.

Anyways, really, whatever an Owner Does to their server is their own decision and choice. As a player you can't really do much but take it in or leave the server and/or report/review the server. In the end, it's the Owner's final decision.. whether they listen to players or not.

kiravalentine

#28
Quote from: Myteriouss on May 13, 2012, 10:53 PM
Anyways, really, whatever an Owner Does to their server is their own decision and choice. As a player
you can't really do much but take it in or leave the server and/or report/review the server. In the end,
it's the Owner's final decision.. whether they listen to players or not.

Which is why my post no. 19 already said:
Quote from: kiravalentine on May 12, 2012, 07:45 AM
The fact that EssenceRO now belongs to Paradox and he has the final say as to whether
BG will be fixed or not, remains undisputed.

However :
Keep in mind, players have the equal right to know about the future of BG. Why? Simply
because they, have the final say whether to remain in EssenceRO or change servers. To
continue with their donation or just stop donating untill BG is fixed and this scam removed.


I agree with you Myteriouss, whatever an Owner Does to their server is their own decision and choice.
Even if it means these people deliberately disabling BG broadcast to force people to "donate" for broadcast scrolls.
Now think again, is this a donation or EXTORTION?

/no1

P/S:
Quote from: Myteriouss on May 13, 2012, 10:53 PM
.... and/or report/review the server

You are actually reading and replying to that report now  /heh

D1gITaLMaYhEm

#29
Quote from: kiravalentine on May 13, 2012, 11:33 PM
Which is why my post no. 19 already said:
I agree with you Myteriouss, whatever an Owner Does to their server is their own decision and choice.
Even if it means these people deliberately disabling BG broadcast to force people to "donate" for broadcast scrolls.
Now think again, is this a donation or EXTORTION?

/no1

P/S:
You are actually reading and replying to that report now  /heh


"Extortion" i lul'ed


Extortion (also called blackmail, shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offence which occurs when a person unlawfully obtains either money, property or services from a person(s), entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime group