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Title: DreamerRO
Post by: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
This is a bit of a continuation to this topic:http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-hall-of-shame/dreamerro/0/
I have been playing this server for awhile now, i just want to leave some comments:

Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.

Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.

Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.

Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.

Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.

Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.

Helpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.

Game-play:
Economy: 1
Economy is pretty much corrupted due to the amount of MvP cards are in the server, and the amount of "double" donation gear you receive each time you donate 40$ or more. Zeny lost its value, but that is the same for any high rate.

Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: ~Rena~ on Mar 27, 2009, 12:19 PM
Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
This is a bit of a continuation to this topic:http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-hall-of-shame/dreamerro/0/
I have been playing this server for awhile now, i just want to leave some comments:

Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.

maybe check your connection i dont have any lags and im from germany

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.

in my eyes the server is permanent online

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.

community is friendly but not to beggars. talk to them "friendly" and after a while you find friends. its on every server the same lol

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.

maybe one bad point lol

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.

i'm a non donar and i recieve help from them (ok i dont ask any noob questions over 10 times or beg for anything) and i never seen they abused here gm powers

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.

gm's are still online. dont seeing them means not they are not here

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Helpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.

forum and other players can help too

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Game-play:
Economy: 1
Economy is pretty much corrupted due to the amount of MvP cards are in the server, and the amount of "double" donation gear you receive each time you donate 40$ or more. Zeny lost its value, but that is the same for any high rate.

its a high rate server  ::) zenys on high rate servers have no value not on this and on all other p servers. play on iRO / kRO / euRO if wanna play an server where zeny have a value  :D

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

ganging solution is already in work


Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.

so maybe mods delete the thread because the most of your points are a lie and no screens = no proof  ::)


Dreamer RO is the best balanced high rate private server so if dont wanna play on it look for an new server xD
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Cielte on Mar 27, 2009, 12:26 PM
QuoteQuote from: HolyOne on Yesterday at 07:17 pm
Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

[1.]ganging solution is already in work


Quote from: HolyOne on Yesterday at 07:17 pm
Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

[2]maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years

[1.] And you are going to stop ganging how? Ban whoever gangs? Say bye bye to your population. ;o

[2.] You just admitted s/he is right. Just because one says there is no class balance, does not mean they need to learn to play. Maybe you need to learn to play. Two, isn't every servers goal to MAKE class balance? SinX/Paladin/Creator servers suck.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: ~Rena~ on Mar 27, 2009, 12:54 PM
Quote from: Raine on Mar 27, 2009, 12:26 PM
[1.] And you are going to stop ganging how? Ban whoever gangs? Say bye bye to your population. ;o

[quote name='HaZe' date='Mar 26 2009, 04:06 PM' post='39299']
Now this being said its time for a solution. @nogang This will work like @noks. This command will be Permanently Implemented in the DeathMatch arena and this is how it will work.

Player A comes inside PvP and attacks Player B. Player B is now UNATTACKABLE BY ANYONE else for the next 10 seconds. If Player B attack player A then Player A will be unattackable by anyone else (besides Player B ) for 10 seconds.
So pretty much you will be unable to come and attack someone who has just been on a fight (10 seconds ago) or someone who is currently fighting.

This should be implemented this Weekend and hopefully this ends all the Drama around ganging and what not.
[/quote]

Quote from: Raine on Mar 27, 2009, 12:26 PM
[2.] You just admitted s/he is right. Just because one says there is no class balance, does not mean they need to learn to play. Maybe you need to learn to play. Two, isn't every servers goal to MAKE class balance? SinX/Paladin/Creator servers suck.

he only listed sinx / pala / crea. i dont see many creas or sinx who really "rock" the house. really strong classes are prof / ninjas or stalker with full strip lol. there are maybe 3-5 really good sinx and around 2-3 sac palas on this server xD

but people only cry because they dont read the forum there a few guides against those classes
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Irrelevant on Mar 27, 2009, 02:58 PM
Quote from: ~Rena~ on Mar 27, 2009, 12:54 PM
[quote name='HaZe' date='Mar 26 2009, 04:06 PM' post='39299']
Now this being said its time for a solution. @nogang This will work like @noks. This command will be Permanently Implemented in the DeathMatch arena and this is how it will work.

Player A comes inside PvP and attacks Player B. Player B is now UNATTACKABLE BY ANYONE else for the next 10 seconds. If Player B attack player A then Player A will be unattackable by anyone else (besides Player B ) for 10 seconds.
So pretty much you will be unable to come and attack someone who has just been on a fight (10 seconds ago) or someone who is currently fighting.

This should be implemented this Weekend and hopefully this ends all the Drama around ganging and what not.

Congratulations on letting QQers bend the game mechanics. You just killed anything that can be ever comprehended as teamwork, just because some people can't stand the idea of having a partner or a party to support them while PvPing.

Something that bugs me, though: What's exactly going to happen to classes that have access to AoE skills? If a wizard comes into battle and SGs, say 3 players, then those players will be immune for the next 10 seconds. Which brings me to my second point. I can be invurnerable if I dual client -or have a friend with me, for that matter- we just have to have the two characters hit each other on a 10 second basis. Then I can just switch and attack whoever I see fit without any regards to being damaged. EDIT: Actually, scratch that, I can just have the second character on /nc my character and let 5% reflect keep us both invincible. Best anti-gang system, ever.

But nevermind that, all is fair when you want to stop gangers -like, you know, fighting a gang with your own gang- because ganging is such a BAAAAAAD thing isn't it?
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: HolyOne on Mar 27, 2009, 03:16 PM
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Chexmix on Mar 27, 2009, 03:27 PM
Quote from: Irrelevant on Mar 27, 2009, 02:58 PM
Something that bugs me, though: What's exactly going to happen to classes that have access to AoE skills? If a wizard comes into battle and SGs, say 3 players, then those players will be immune for the next 10 seconds. Which brings me to my second point. I can be invurnerable if I dual client -or have a friend with me, for that matter- we just have to have the two characters hit each other on a 10 second basis. Then I can just switch and attack whoever I see fit without any regards to being damaged. EDIT: Actually, scratch that, I can just have the second character on /nc my character and let 5% reflect keep us both invincible. Best anti-gang system, ever.

Amazing
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: ~Rena~ on Mar 27, 2009, 05:47 PM
Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 27, 2009, 03:16 PM
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.

no im not a "PRO Haze" person and your review says me you dont have played long enough on this server (maybe a week or 2?). Im playing a SinX and a Whitesmith in PvP and still owning Donators without donates the reason is i know how to play my class because im in ro since ~10 years and this server has the best balance i ever seen on private servers because there are only "Headgear" donates and no overpowered weapons, armors etc like in other servers with let me say max 100-200 players?
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Cielte on Mar 27, 2009, 05:59 PM
Quote from: ~Rena~ on Mar 27, 2009, 05:47 PM
Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 27, 2009, 03:16 PM
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.

no im not a "PRO Haze" person and your review says me you dont have played long enough on this server (maybe a week or 2?). Im playing a SinX and a Whitesmith in PvP and still owning Donators without donates the reason is i know how to play my class because im in ro since ~10 years and this server has the best balance i ever seen on private servers because there are only "Headgear" donates and no overpowered weapons, armors etc like in other servers with let me say max 100-200 players?

Hi, RO started in 2001(?) and it's 2009. 2001 - 2009 =/= 10 = 8. kthx.

LETS NOT FORGET
Quote from: ~Rena~maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Poki on Mar 27, 2009, 06:02 PM
As said before by Irrelevant, that "ganging solution" is highly exploitable.  The best way would have been to just leave it alone and not enter PVP if you're afraid to die.  Heck, gangs are everywhere, why QQ about it now?

@Rena Most of your replies to HolyOne's review consists of either your own opinion or a suggestion that is very obvious [Go play another server if you don't like it].  HolyOne is giving a [sadly it's not really descriptive] review and you're trying to counter his review with mainly opinions? Might as well give your own review.

@Holyone
- Any proof that the GMs have "abused" their powers?  It's rather offencive to the GMs if you state that without showing any proof :/
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Khaos on Mar 27, 2009, 08:20 PM
QuoteServer:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.
Consider those signs of increasing amount of players because of the server's ACTUAL awesomeness.

Quote
Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.
The server really deserves a 10. Otherwise, you want to leave the server on and forget about the big updates that only happens every month? The server HAS to be unavailable once in a while, otherwise the Anti-Bot/Packet and Low Rate in High Rate wouldn't exist!

QuoteCommunity:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.
No one helps beggars. The GMs became qualified to become GMs because they were helpful, not because they HAD to help you.

QuoteEventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.
That's just one flaw there, but rate it a 5? You've got to be kidding.

QuoteGame Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.
Abusing power!? I insist you to stop being lazy and work some proofs up, otherwise only idiots would believe you.
And GMs are helping donors more than non-donors? Sounds like you just want to revive the siege between donors and non-donors by shouting a loud lie: "GMs are secretly helping donors more!"
Haze already tried to even up the conflict with the clone items which worked for everyone... other than yourself, I suppose.
The GMs help everyone as much as possible. The only different aid given to donors are their reward for donating.
Besides, Haze is more into finding ways to improve the server. For aiding the players, they'll be the other GMs' duties. Haze even takes some time to look inside the Technical Difficulties and Bug/Reports section of the forum, while most admins from other servers usually leave those sections to the other GMs. The good ideas are still being watched by GMs by the way. Balancing the pros and cons of those ideas and then will be taken into Haze's attention only if necessary.

QuoteAvailability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.
There are new GM recruits who are waiting for configured accounts. Better to take your need of assistance in the forum than ingame for now. And like my previous message, Haze is more into improving the server. The other GMs are more into supporting players.

QuoteHelpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.
Again, if there are no GMs online ingame, better to take your need of assistance in the forum.

QuoteClass Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.
You don't have to be a donor to be good. I've heard of non-donors being able to kill donors.
Consider donors work hard in real life while non-donors with good combination of gears work hard ingame.
So... work hard either way. Getting what you want shouldn't be done in a blink of an eye. There must be challenges to make a server fun.

Quote
Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.
Nope, you didn't. It was hyperbole in a bad way.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Cielte on Mar 27, 2009, 08:52 PM
Here's a suggestion.

@tc,
proof, so people'll quit comin' around saying you're a liar.

@other two people who have went against Holy

Why don't you yourself bring proof that s/he is a liar.

Quote from: KhaosConsider those signs of increasing amount of players because of the server's ACTUAL awesomeness.
Your opinion, I don't think it's awesome frankly. Hmm...

Quote from: Khaos on Mar 27, 2009, 08:20 PM

The server really deserves a 10. Otherwise, you want to leave the server on and forget about the big updates that only happens every month? The server HAS to be unavailable once in a while, otherwise the Anti-Bot/Packet and Low Rate in High Rate wouldn't exist!

Mhmm, an opinion, again. A low-rate in a high rate, eh? Should be one or the other, not both.


Quote from: KhaosNo one helps beggars. The GMs became qualified to become GMs because they were helpful, not because they HAD to help you.
Now, that's two people that called this dude a beggar. Proof of it? I don't see any.

Quote from: Khaos
Abusing power!? I insist you to stop being lazy and work some proofs up, otherwise only idiots would believe you.
[1.]And GMs are helping donors more than non-donors? Sounds like you just want to revive the siege between donors and non-donors by shouting a loud lie: "GMs are secretly helping donors more!"
[2.]Haze already tried to even up the conflict with the clone items which worked for everyone... other than yourself, I suppose.
[3.]The GMs help everyone as much as possible. The only different aid given to donors are their reward for donating.
Besides, Haze is more into finding ways to improve the server. For aiding the players, they'll be the other GMs' duties. Haze even takes some time to look inside the Technical Difficulties and Bug/Reports section of the forum, while most admins from other servers usually leave those sections to the other GMs. The good ideas are still being watched by GMs by the way. Balancing the pros and cons of those ideas and then will be taken into Haze's attention only if necessary.

[1.] It is a known fact that most servers praise donors, and give them more attention than non-donors.

[2.] And yet, donor equips are always going to be better.

[3.] Which is probably imbalanced.


Quote from: KhaosYou don't have to be a donor to be good. I've heard of non-donors being able to kill donors.
Consider donors work hard in real life while non-donors with good combination of gears work hard ingame.
So... work hard either way. Getting what you want shouldn't be done in a blink of an eye.There must be challenges to make a server fun.

M'hm, yet there will always be a kid who uses his parents credit card to get things in a blink of an eye.


Quote from: KhaosNope, you didn't. It was hyperbole in a bad way.

Once again, opinion. What I've noticed nowadays is if someone negativly reviews a server. Some people come bashing the poor person that does. Reviews are based on the players experience. And s/he shouldn't be bashed for it. Now, we can all just stop QQing and bring some proof, and we can see who is lying, and telling the truth.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Chexmix on Mar 27, 2009, 10:37 PM
Opinions =/= fact
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Khaos on Mar 27, 2009, 11:27 PM
Quote from: Raine[1.] It is a known fact that most servers praise donors, and give them more attention than non-donors.
Yeah, just a +2 more than non-donators attention into processing their donation and rewarding them.
Praising donators? The only best praise given to them that I can think of is an email saying "Thank you for your donation! Your donation will help our server live longer! Have a nice day!"

Quote from: Raine[2.] And yet, donor equips are always going to be better.
HOWEVER, they're still vulnerable just with the right non-donation equips, so you can strikeout that word "always". The only difference is that strong donor equips can be obtained if worked hard for in real life. While the strong non-doner equips can be obtained if worked hard for ingame.

Quote from: RaineM'hm, yet there will always be a kid who uses his parents credit card to get things in a blink of an eye.
And how would a kid get a hold of his parent's credit card?
The credit card is the parent's responsibility.
And also, that kid would still have to pay with their parent's punishment [Work HARD on the punishment].
Whew... nothing can be received in a blink of an eye. ;D

Quote from: RaineNow, that's two people that called this dude a beggar. Proof of it? I don't see any.
I never said he was a beggar, I only stated that beggars are not being helped, but he might be seeing that giving beggars some items is what HELP really stands for in the server. Just saying just to be reminded of the difference.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: HolyOne on Mar 27, 2009, 11:49 PM
If you want proof it is all over their forum, by how bias they are towards a certain people, I also got conversation logs of haze admitting to a lot things, If i did post the conversation, my friend that actually got the conversation will get ban from the server(that person still plays that server for some reason). So i will not endanger my friend just to give you guys that are in your own little world right now proof, just to lose a friendship. Also me a begger, hmm not really, i actually got decent equipment before i quitted, i worked for my gear without begging for it. If you want proof of my gear, i can install dRO again for you and even screen shot a picture for you guys. Also as Raine said, you guys yourself should bring proof too, if you are here to prove that my whole rating is a "lie".

@Rena, You are clearly lying on how long you've played RO, and for your information i have played dRO for around 4-5 months. Just to let you know, haze modify his online amount by at least 100-150, so if there is 300 there is actually 200 and then when you minus all the venders there is actually only 100 at most people online.

@Khaos, I know you are a new GM and everything, so you actually HAVE to stick up for the server, so the next time you want to comment, please learn about the server's staff team before even trying to comment, and don't even start with me saying I don't know the staff, i actually know them pretty well, at least the "old" ones.

@Poki, I would be wasting my time if i actually want to dig up some dirt on them, since they are hardly online anymore and all the stuff that has been abused have been wipe clean from any evidence showing up.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Irrelevant on Mar 28, 2009, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Khaos on Mar 27, 2009, 11:27 PM
HOWEVER, they're still vulnerable just with the right non-donation equips, so you can strikeout that word "always". The only difference is that strong donor equips can be obtained if worked hard for in real life. While the strong non-doner equips can be obtained if worked hard for ingame.

I'm certainly curious as to how a non-don can tally up to some of the donation item effects, such as:

Marshmallow hat(top headgear): Reduce Demi-Human Damage by 35%, 1 slot.

Melee Energy Ring(mid headgear): +20% physical damage, 1 slot.

Night Vision Googles(mid headgear): Increase range by 4 (Note that 4 cells is even more than what spears get), 1 slot.

Sky fairy wings(low headgear): Decrease aftercast delay by 45%
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Khaos on Mar 28, 2009, 01:55 AM
Proof you don't need donates to pwn or need money to get donates?
http://dreamer-ro.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3061
http://dreamer-ro.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4362

Quote from: PokiThing is, some people have it easier than others which is unfair.
Real life ain't fair.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: ~Rena~ on Mar 28, 2009, 02:32 AM
Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 27, 2009, 11:49 PM
@Rena, You are clearly lying on how long you've played RO, and for your information i have played dRO for around 4-5 months. Just to let you know, haze modify his online amount by at least 100-150, so if there is 300 there is actually 200 and then when you minus all the venders there is actually only 100 at most people online.

i think people have to go to school again to know what ~ means? i think its not really hard maybe use google xD
but ok for everyone ~ means around so it can be +-1-3 years
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Chexmix on Mar 28, 2009, 03:08 AM
To summarize

games =/= RL

opinions =/= facts

8 =/= 10

And it's kind of pointless to try and dispute how one person feels about a server, regardless of his accusations you will not change his mind by being obnoxious.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Khaos on Mar 28, 2009, 03:21 AM
When real money is involved, real life is into it too.
I'm not trying to change his mind. I just want people to know that he pretty much made some mistakes on some of those things in his review, such as GMs abusing their power and donation items being OP. By the way, the GM accounts have been configured so there will ALWAYS be a GM online at all times. That takes out what he mentioned as "inactive GMs".
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: LemonCrosswalk on Mar 28, 2009, 03:39 AM
Unless someone has a strong reason, they don't spend time to post such a long review on the forums. The only reason they would lie about it is if they felt strongly enough over something that happened to try and bring harm to the server (and since the accusations weren't that dire, I doubt it). If he is wrong, then the most probable thing would be a misunderstanding over whatever.

By trying so hard to defend donation items (which people can draw their own opinions on since they can see the stats) and calling the reviewer a liar is not helping you. Honestly enough the responses and bickering over the thread will make people want to believe the reviewer more. Just drop it.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: HolyOne on Mar 28, 2009, 03:54 PM
Quote from: ~Rena~ on Mar 28, 2009, 02:32 AM
i think people have to go to school again to know what ~ means? i think its not really hard maybe use google xD
but ok for everyone ~ means around so it can be +-1-3 years
This is all I have to say "Stop being HaZe's dog and lick his foot every time you try to reply to my post", it's really pointless for you to argue. If you haven't notice already, the only people that try to defend this server is either: 1. dRO Staff 2. HaZe's personal suck ups. Find which one you belong to, then write and sign and place it on top of your head, please and thank you.

Quote from: Khaos on Mar 28, 2009, 01:55 AM
Proof you don't need donates to pwn or need money to get donates?
http://dreamer-ro.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3061
http://dreamer-ro.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4362
Quote from: PokiThing is, some people have it easier than others which is unfair.
Real life ain't fair.
Those two links doesn't really show anything, First link shows that HaZe himself knows that donation is overpowering, and he does nothing to decrease the gap (V4P clone does not decrease the gap). Second link shows stuff that most people know how to do already, go try using his method and see if you can kill two people using two different things on your own. 2 donors vs 2 non-donors, good luck trying to win if you are on the non-donate side.
Quote from: Khaos on Mar 28, 2009, 03:21 AM
When real money is involved, real life is into it too.
I'm not trying to change his mind. I just want people to know that he pretty much made some mistakes on some of those things in his review, such as GMs abusing their power and donation items being OP. By the way, the GM accounts have been configured so there will ALWAYS be a GM online at all times. That takes out what he mentioned as "inactive GMs".
You know that little system that nonie has that try to make it so that at least one GM is online at a time, isn't really working at all, there is no such thing as there is one GM on at a time, or it might just mean that GMs aren't doing their job in replying to people's @request, it's one or the other, choose your pick. By the way, I am guessing your one of those people that think RO is real life, chill out, take a chill pill and then maybe get some fresh air. And also another thing, all you are doing is going up against one/two of my points, my 'donation' point and my 'GM inactive" point, so I assuming that everything else that i have listed is correct.

Quote from: Descent on Mar 28, 2009, 07:31 AM
Dreamer-RO is garbage, always will be garbage. Any Admin who doctored the hell out of his online player count in order to entice people to join should be hung.

Corrupt little tards like HaZe are the exact type of owner that piss me off.

Rena: I think you need to learn when the shut the hell up, you're annoying and obviously kissing HaZe's donkey. Leave.
I like your way of thinking lol

Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Irrelevant on Mar 28, 2009, 05:05 PM
Quote from: Khaos on Mar 28, 2009, 03:21 AM
When real money is involved, real life is into it too.
I'm not trying to change his mind. I just want people to know that he pretty much made some mistakes on some of those things in his review, such as GMs abusing their power and donation items being OP. By the way, the GM accounts have been configured so there will ALWAYS be a GM online at all times. That takes out what he mentioned as "inactive GMs".

GMs abusing their power hasn't been proven.

Donations being OP'd has been proven, thoroughly. Hell, you even posted a link to a topic in which the admin acknoledges the donation items to be OP (for a reason, so he says). I'm still curious as to what items can be obtained in-game to counter if not tally the effects of the donation items I listed. Don't come and tell me a 195 ASPD sinx with a 4-cell range is, in any way, easy to defeat.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Guest on Mar 28, 2009, 05:45 PM
enough with the lack of civility
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: -[XS]- on Mar 28, 2009, 05:45 PM
Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
This is a bit of a continuation to this topic:http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-hall-of-shame/dreamerro/0/
I have been playing this server for awhile now, i just want to leave some comments:


Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.

Lag? Everytime I lag is because my sister is using Ares or those online games.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.
I'd give a 10, currenly @uptime status is almost 9 days. The last time it was down was because he added the 3-1 sprites.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.

Im RARELY friendly with people who say "Zenny please", "Equips please", those Fags get a few equips and never log in again ever. How I know? They got me as friend.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.

Automatic events are pretty fun. And GMs DO make events. If u ingore them its not my problem.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.

huh? have u really seen the server? most of the custom thingies were brought by the players.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.
Haze the admin is not supposed to make any support, if you got some errors, report them in forums, he is supposed to read them.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM
Game-play:
Economy: 1
Economy is pretty much corrupted due to the amount of MvP cards are in the server, and the amount of "double" donation gear you receive each time you donate 40$ or more. Zeny lost its value, but that is the same for any high rate.

If u got a normal brain, ud think that if donates are CHEAP, obviously u have more chances to have them. I got like x3 donates of EACH, trading MvP cards, and Zeny is useful, dont lie.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM

Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.ver, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.


3 Main guilds, why don't u join them? duh.

Quote from: HolyOne on Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM

Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.


Class Balance:1? LOLOLOLOLOLOL, I got 9 chars in my account and ive PWND other full equipped ppl, I kill with champ, wizz,sinx, stalker, paladin, lk and creator. I'm pretty sure u just suck @ RO. You probably got pwned and thats it. Hahaha.

I've played more than 20 servers, LRs, Mids, and HRs. And this is by far, the best.

TIP: When u start in one server all u have to do is work/hunt. If u dont then dont play RO. ^^
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Guest on Mar 28, 2009, 05:55 PM
sigh guys, your not suppose to fight with the reviewer, you actually only suppose to post in the review section if your going to make a review, or argue factual information made in one....
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Poki on Mar 28, 2009, 09:58 PM
@XS

Good for you to know where you lag comes from.  Now I don't see how that has anything to do with the review that HolyOne has made.
Go make your own review, I don't care what rating you would give DreamerRO especially in HolyOne's review.
I'm RARELY friendly with idiots who post their opinions in hope to shatter a review that they don't like.
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The reviews and replies you people give is opinion based and mainly opinion based.  There are probably some facts somewhere along in the review but if you deem the review is a lie, then by all means, post some FACTS rather than your own OPINIONS.
And by facts, I mean proof.

Also, go make your own damn review if you can only give us your opinions in HolyOne's review.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Communist on Mar 29, 2009, 06:12 PM
I've played dreamer-RO the 2nd day it came out, with a good 50 population, since dreamer created a lot of hype.

I know two gms, Ellie and Rhiann, who are both very capable, but are also very busy. (Ellie is lacking in school at the moment.)

Now, the availability of the server itself is just fine, the only time I really receive lag is when people spam skills.

The economy is very lacking, as with any untended highrate: The economy are just items and cards themselves.

Now, class balance is also very weak. They have, I believe, not taken more than 10 minutes to come up with how they would like to balance their 500 stat (you can even get more stats by doing quests,) server.

Thanatos card is still existant, they have a hat where heal and sanctuary get doused with 500% more capacity.

Community is just fine, as I see, however people who define themselves as big wigs on the server find no need to speak with a "proletariat."

They have very good customization, and very good quests though. Also, they have a nifty "Time Machine" where they can set your character at a different rate, and max level of 99.

Anyways-- I've only lurked on these forums without making an account, but hi to you allz.

saudi!
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Levitation on Apr 18, 2009, 06:39 AM
After about a year of having not played Ragnarok I decided to try the top ranked server, which is DreamerRO. And I must say, I was rather disappointed, most of what HolyOne said was true. When I logged in there was a single GM on, and he was just logging off, I don't remember his name. My computer has been upgraded twice and is more powerful than the last time I played RO, I was lagless then and on DreamerRO I lagged horrendously, and no, I don't have any other programs running, nobody else is on my network It's just me, and DreamerRO. Loading screens which "back in the day" took half a second now took 10+ seconds, I even logged onto 4 other MMO's to check the lag there(Dream of Mirror Online, Mabinogi, Megaten, and Maplestory), I had none. The population boasted 546 players, which I thought was impressive, until I saw that the item mall held 140 of those people, while the DeathMatch arena only held 40(still good). The population was practically DEAD, I went to every city and walked around a bit, found like 3 groups of people talking, a total of about 12-16 players, 2 of the 3 groups weren't speaking english. I was new to the server, so I asked a few things about the server, nobody responded, ever. Is asking a question about the server begging? I think not. I never beg. The economy is warped beyond belief, I've played tons of RO servers, and I've only ever liked one, which no longer exsists. I love RO, but I hate the massive grind of low and mid rates, so high rates are for me. When I say the economy is warped beyond belief, almost all ordinary item drops are worth 1.5x their iRO value(in shops) which destroys the value of zeny. Weapons, such as the +10 Pike which would cost me 10k on my old server, and about 15k on most every server I've played costs a WHOPPING 5mil. This @noks system was horrendous, AoE casters had the entire map's worth of monsters to themselves in all of the good leveling areas. PVP was retarded, I warped in(maxed out Lord Knight) and died in about 2 seconds, as the moment I warped in I was sac'd by not one or two, but FIVE paladins. So I figured I had bad luck and respawned, well, second time I lived about 3 times longer(still only 6 seconds) as I didn't spawn RIGHT next to the swarm of paladins, more like off to the side, I got in one bowling bash before i died, impressive eh? They were of course, all guildies, so obviously the guild ganging is an issue, however this @nogang system sounds just as horrendously corrupt as the @noks system is for wizards. To a brand new player, DreamerRO is, overwhelming... I HIGHLY suggest that if you're going to join DreamerRO, sign up for an account several days ahead of time and vote every day, twice a day if you can as many days ahead as you can, as these Vote for Point items are overpowering to anyone who doesn't have them(i.e. new players). Now, I noticed Raine saying it's the most balanced HR server s/he's played on, this wasn't even remotely the case for me, anyone who's played a month is decked out in items so powerful they'd be considered donation items on practically every other server out there, and then the people with actual donates, well, let's just say it's like throwing ping pong balls at a very angry bear. Nothing eventful happened in my 16 hours of play, no GM logged in after the initial GM logged out. things that don't really matter, but I still found extremely irritating would be that in order to use the 3-1 sprites, the 2-1 sprites were forfeit, now you can't even tell what class you're up against when it comes to 3-1 and 2-1 people, until of course their trying to kill you, or if they actually decide to talk to you. Also when you don't have a top headgear or a mid headgear on, there's generic hat and wings, THAT YOU CANNOT REMOVE. the top hat was cool for about 20 minutes, at which point it was irritating, the wings were still okay for a while longer. I noticed the female equivalent is kind of cute, but it seems too much like something a priestess would wear, on every class. there's a couple of custom hairstyles thrown in, but you don't get that good of a look at them... as you always have a hat on. In 16 hours of play, I found 2 people that would actually talk to me. I also noticed that inside the npc mall, items(non weapons/armor) are priced so much higher than standard iRO prices. Point in case: Magnifier iRO:40z dRO:5,000z, Oridecon: iRO:1,100z dRO:85+k(i don't remember the exact value, it was something like 85,600). Basically the economy of DreamerRO is that of item for item trading. Things that require only 2 days or 4 Vote for Point(vote twice a day = two days) sell for 50+million zeny. Inside of the Deathmatch arena I never saw a single class other than Paladins, Creator(BioChemist) or Assasin Cross'. Other than myself, I'm not saying that they weren't there, they were probably also being mobbed by sac pally's the first few seconds of arriving. Not that it's a big deal, but whichever GM was on when I first logged in, it was very hard to read his broadcasts, dark purple over a black is very hard on the eyes. Isn't GM speech supposed to be yellow, or sometimes red? You know, easy to read colors? I did like the pets, however in some cases it was hard to tell just what was a pet, and what wasn't a player.


Overall, I'd give DreamerRO a score, on a scale of 0-10 a *6* unless I'm allowed to give a decimal score, then I'd give it a *5.7*  :-\

And before anybody retorts that I was a newbie and suck, that's why I have a problem. I've played RO since the iRO open beta. I know what I'm doing, I was a little rusty, having not played for a little over a year, but I remembered all of my builds, cards, maps, so on and so forth after a mere 15 minutes.

I won't recommend DreamerRO to anyone, however, anyone who does join, if you're going to play a melee class that until you're in your 300+ level range has terrible SP, get yourself a Blue Acidus Card, with how much editing Dreamer RO has, it gives +4000 maxSP(100x the iRO standard +40) SP and [If refine level 0~4] additional +4000 maxSP, just throw it into a cheapy cap you buy anywhere for 2,000 zeny and your level 100 Lord Knight goes from 254 maxSP to 10,254 maxSP(how this adds up properly is beyond me).
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: caramelxxxx on May 03, 2009, 06:06 AM
Bump!

Some are true but most are false  :D dreamer-RO is a great server hehe! It will not peak 700+ players now if it isn't great. haha! I think these players that post bad comments about dreamer-ro were got owned in pvp. Haze is a great admin but of course you need money thats why you make a server :D IMO. About the server's economy lol. New in the server? Can't Donate? Well farm 1B from treasure boxes or Gold and you got your 20$ donation wings or helm  :) see? Many players now sell donation for zenies because Haze has implemented some quest etc. that players need zenies badly. haha its funny though. Playing 2 weeks in the server and you will get your full equip donation items.

@HaZe
Yeah the server need money and you have lots of money now but please don't allow edited items for 500$-1000$ donators haha.

@Ppl who dont like the server
Compared to the other servers lol this RO is much better.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: caramelxxxx on May 03, 2009, 06:13 AM
I edited my reply please read it again :D sry Im nub at posting haha!
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Tom~ on Jun 03, 2009, 09:01 PM
i have played on this server like a month, and i have to say... the class balance is HORRIBLE!

Paladin = 3 or 2 sacs and DEAD!
Sinx = cloaking + sonic blow + soul breaker = pwned
Creator = OMG AD SPAM!
Champions = huh ... how it was called the skill that throws all the spheres?


Untouchables, No Fear guild OWN this server... no chance if you don't join this guilds

mmm i don't have lag at all.... thats one nice thing :D

they have 2 automatic events... dice and something like invasion... is pretty boring...

bleh, i can't recommend this server to anyone ...
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Poki on Jun 03, 2009, 09:26 PM
This should have been closed long time ago.  Any new posts made about one's experience in the server should really just make their own review.  Heck, the posts don't even fall under the requirements for a proper review.
Title: Re: DreamerRO
Post by: Descent on Jun 04, 2009, 10:47 AM
Quote from: Poki on Jun 03, 2009, 09:26 PM
This should have been closed long time ago.  Any new posts made about one's experience in the server should really just make their own review.  Heck, the posts don't even fall under the requirements for a proper review.

Agreed. Locked.