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Offline HolyOne

DreamerRO
« on: Mar 26, 2009, 07:17 PM »
This is a bit of a continuation to this topic:http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-hall-of-shame/dreamerro/0/
I have been playing this server for awhile now, i just want to leave some comments:

Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.

Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.

Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.

Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.

Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.

Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.

Helpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.

Game-play:
Economy: 1
Economy is pretty much corrupted due to the amount of MvP cards are in the server, and the amount of "double" donation gear you receive each time you donate 40$ or more. Zeny lost its value, but that is the same for any high rate.

Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.
« Last Edit: Mar 26, 2009, 07:30 PM by HolyOne »

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Offline ~Rena~

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #1 on: Mar 27, 2009, 12:19 PM »
This is a bit of a continuation to this topic:http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/server-hall-of-shame/dreamerro/0/
I have been playing this server for awhile now, i just want to leave some comments:

Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.

maybe check your connection i dont have any lags and im from germany

Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.

in my eyes the server is permanent online

Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.

community is friendly but not to beggars. talk to them "friendly" and after a while you find friends. its on every server the same lol

Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.

maybe one bad point lol

Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.

i'm a non donar and i recieve help from them (ok i dont ask any noob questions over 10 times or beg for anything) and i never seen they abused here gm powers

Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.

gm's are still online. dont seeing them means not they are not here

Helpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.

forum and other players can help too

Game-play:
Economy: 1
Economy is pretty much corrupted due to the amount of MvP cards are in the server, and the amount of "double" donation gear you receive each time you donate 40$ or more. Zeny lost its value, but that is the same for any high rate.

its a high rate server  ::) zenys on high rate servers have no value not on this and on all other p servers. play on iRO / kRO / euRO if wanna play an server where zeny have a value  :D

Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

ganging solution is already in work


Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years

Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.

so maybe mods delete the thread because the most of your points are a lie and no screens = no proof  ::)


Dreamer RO is the best balanced high rate private server so if dont wanna play on it look for an new server xD
« Last Edit: Mar 27, 2009, 12:21 PM by ~Rena~ »

Offline Cielte

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #2 on: Mar 27, 2009, 12:26 PM »
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Quote from: HolyOne on Yesterday at 07:17 pm
Guild Competition: 9
This might actually be the only thing good about this server, it actually have alot of guild-type war in PvP most of the time, but at the same time if you aren't in the major guild (GS, UT, NF) then you are pretty much ganged by them in DM(DeathMatch) Arena.

[1.]ganging solution is already in work


Quote from: HolyOne on Yesterday at 07:17 pm
Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.

[2]maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years

[1.] And you are going to stop ganging how? Ban whoever gangs? Say bye bye to your population. ;o

[2.] You just admitted s/he is right. Just because one says there is no class balance, does not mean they need to learn to play. Maybe you need to learn to play. Two, isn't every servers goal to MAKE class balance? SinX/Paladin/Creator servers suck.

Offline ~Rena~

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #3 on: Mar 27, 2009, 12:54 PM »
[1.] And you are going to stop ganging how? Ban whoever gangs? Say bye bye to your population. ;o

[quote name='HaZe' date='Mar 26 2009, 04:06 PM' post='39299']
Now this being said its time for a solution. @nogang This will work like @noks. This command will be Permanently Implemented in the DeathMatch arena and this is how it will work.

Player A comes inside PvP and attacks Player B. Player B is now UNATTACKABLE BY ANYONE else for the next 10 seconds. If Player B attack player A then Player A will be unattackable by anyone else (besides Player B ) for 10 seconds.
So pretty much you will be unable to come and attack someone who has just been on a fight (10 seconds ago) or someone who is currently fighting.

This should be implemented this Weekend and hopefully this ends all the Drama around ganging and what not.
[/quote]

[2.] You just admitted s/he is right. Just because one says there is no class balance, does not mean they need to learn to play. Maybe you need to learn to play. Two, isn't every servers goal to MAKE class balance? SinX/Paladin/Creator servers suck.

he only listed sinx / pala / crea. i dont see many creas or sinx who really "rock" the house. really strong classes are prof / ninjas or stalker with full strip lol. there are maybe 3-5 really good sinx and around 2-3 sac palas on this server xD

but people only cry because they dont read the forum there a few guides against those classes

Offline Irrelevant

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #4 on: Mar 27, 2009, 02:58 PM »
[quote name='HaZe' date='Mar 26 2009, 04:06 PM' post='39299']
Now this being said its time for a solution. @nogang This will work like @noks. This command will be Permanently Implemented in the DeathMatch arena and this is how it will work.

Player A comes inside PvP and attacks Player B. Player B is now UNATTACKABLE BY ANYONE else for the next 10 seconds. If Player B attack player A then Player A will be unattackable by anyone else (besides Player B ) for 10 seconds.
So pretty much you will be unable to come and attack someone who has just been on a fight (10 seconds ago) or someone who is currently fighting.

This should be implemented this Weekend and hopefully this ends all the Drama around ganging and what not.

Congratulations on letting QQers bend the game mechanics. You just killed anything that can be ever comprehended as teamwork, just because some people can't stand the idea of having a partner or a party to support them while PvPing.

Something that bugs me, though: What's exactly going to happen to classes that have access to AoE skills? If a wizard comes into battle and SGs, say 3 players, then those players will be immune for the next 10 seconds. Which brings me to my second point. I can be invurnerable if I dual client -or have a friend with me, for that matter- we just have to have the two characters hit each other on a 10 second basis. Then I can just switch and attack whoever I see fit without any regards to being damaged. EDIT: Actually, scratch that, I can just have the second character on /nc my character and let 5% reflect keep us both invincible. Best anti-gang system, ever.

But nevermind that, all is fair when you want to stop gangers -like, you know, fighting a gang with your own gang- because ganging is such a BAAAAAAD thing isn't it?
« Last Edit: Mar 27, 2009, 03:00 PM by Irrelevant »

Offline HolyOne

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #5 on: Mar 27, 2009, 03:16 PM »
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.

Offline Chexmix

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #6 on: Mar 27, 2009, 03:27 PM »
Something that bugs me, though: What's exactly going to happen to classes that have access to AoE skills? If a wizard comes into battle and SGs, say 3 players, then those players will be immune for the next 10 seconds. Which brings me to my second point. I can be invurnerable if I dual client -or have a friend with me, for that matter- we just have to have the two characters hit each other on a 10 second basis. Then I can just switch and attack whoever I see fit without any regards to being damaged. EDIT: Actually, scratch that, I can just have the second character on /nc my character and let 5% reflect keep us both invincible. Best anti-gang system, ever.

Amazing
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Offline ~Rena~

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #7 on: Mar 27, 2009, 05:47 PM »
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.

no im not a "PRO Haze" person and your review says me you dont have played long enough on this server (maybe a week or 2?). Im playing a SinX and a Whitesmith in PvP and still owning Donators without donates the reason is i know how to play my class because im in ro since ~10 years and this server has the best balance i ever seen on private servers because there are only "Headgear" donates and no overpowered weapons, armors etc like in other servers with let me say max 100-200 players?

Offline Cielte

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #8 on: Mar 27, 2009, 05:59 PM »
Rena are you one of those "HaZe, amazing job on the server!" people, because you are acting like one now, and for the Screen shots, why would i spend some time to actually find proof to it, as I stated, just play the server yourself and you will know if i am correct or not. Seriously i just "lol-ed" at that topic haze made about @nogang, it's pretty useless, and I highly doubt you yourself is good at RO from the way you are telling me to learn to play the class.

no im not a "PRO Haze" person and your review says me you dont have played long enough on this server (maybe a week or 2?). Im playing a SinX and a Whitesmith in PvP and still owning Donators without donates the reason is i know how to play my class because im in ro since ~10 years and this server has the best balance i ever seen on private servers because there are only "Headgear" donates and no overpowered weapons, armors etc like in other servers with let me say max 100-200 players?

Hi, RO started in 2001(?) and it's 2009. 2001 - 2009 =/= 10 = 8. kthx.

LETS NOT FORGET
Quote from: ~Rena~
maybe learn to play. ragnarok online has no class balance in pvp not yet and not in thousand years

Offline Poki

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #9 on: Mar 27, 2009, 06:02 PM »
As said before by Irrelevant, that "ganging solution" is highly exploitable.  The best way would have been to just leave it alone and not enter PVP if you're afraid to die.  Heck, gangs are everywhere, why QQ about it now?

@Rena Most of your replies to HolyOne's review consists of either your own opinion or a suggestion that is very obvious [Go play another server if you don't like it].  HolyOne is giving a [sadly it's not really descriptive] review and you're trying to counter his review with mainly opinions? Might as well give your own review.

@Holyone
- Any proof that the GMs have "abused" their powers?  It's rather offencive to the GMs if you state that without showing any proof :/

Offline Khaos

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #10 on: Mar 27, 2009, 08:20 PM »
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Server:
Stability: 8
Well this server is pretty decent in not crashing or freezing up, but it does have it lag times throughout the day.
Consider those signs of increasing amount of players because of the server's ACTUAL awesomeness.

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Availability: 9
It isn't often, its mostly down when there is an update to be made or when something big happens to the server.
The server really deserves a 10. Otherwise, you want to leave the server on and forget about the big updates that only happens every month? The server HAS to be unavailable once in a while, otherwise the Anti-Bot/Packet and Low Rate in High Rate wouldn't exist!

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Community:
Friendliness: 3
The Server's people really isn't that friendly at all, most of the time, people will ignore you, the only people that actually respond to you are the GMs that "have" to, since they are doing their job, other than that, they don't really help you.
No one helps beggars. The GMs became qualified to become GMs because they were helpful, not because they HAD to help you.

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Eventfulness: 5
Well there are automatic events now, but still its the same thing every time. There aren't actual GM that does events anymore the most active time was when Bunneh and GM Juliet were still GMs and were doing events at least everyday and to keep the server active.
That's just one flaw there, but rate it a 5? You've got to be kidding.

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Game Master:
Friendliness: 4
I got to say, the GMs now are abit power hungry, they will abuse their power most of the time, the rule system in this server isn't perfect in anyway and the GMs/Admins don't do anything with it, not even by fixing it up. The higher up GMs/Admins dont help non-donors at all, instead they are ignored and forgotten in this server. While we are at this topic of friendliness, I think personally the server host himself acts too much on his emotion when making a choice in anything. He also ignores alot of "good" ideas that the server player has to offer, and he just brushes it off.
Abusing power!? I insist you to stop being lazy and work some proofs up, otherwise only idiots would believe you.
And GMs are helping donors more than non-donors? Sounds like you just want to revive the siege between donors and non-donors by shouting a loud lie: "GMs are secretly helping donors more!"
Haze already tried to even up the conflict with the clone items which worked for everyone... other than yourself, I suppose.
The GMs help everyone as much as possible. The only different aid given to donors are their reward for donating.
Besides, Haze is more into finding ways to improve the server. For aiding the players, they'll be the other GMs' duties. Haze even takes some time to look inside the Technical Difficulties and Bug/Reports section of the forum, while most admins from other servers usually leave those sections to the other GMs. The good ideas are still being watched by GMs by the way. Balancing the pros and cons of those ideas and then will be taken into Haze's attention only if necessary.

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Availability: 1
I don't think they are even any GM that are actually on anymore besides GM Switch, and maybe sometimes GM Rhiann, the rest has dissappear. Everytime I @request for a GM, there are none that are online to respond to the help. And when HaZe is even online, he doesn't do any support at all.
There are new GM recruits who are waiting for configured accounts. Better to take your need of assistance in the forum than ingame for now. And like my previous message, Haze is more into improving the server. The other GMs are more into supporting players.

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Helpfulness: 1
If I can't find a GM how do i find them helpful, kind of self explained here.
Again, if there are no GMs online ingame, better to take your need of assistance in the forum.

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Class Balance: 1
There is no balance at all with classes, the donation gear that are in the server creates a very unbalance PvP/WoE environment. All you see in PvP are Sac Pallies, Creator, Sinx, the other classes are "rare" or you have to be fully donation gear to be good/kill-able at the class.
You don't have to be a donor to be good. I've heard of non-donors being able to kill donors.
Consider donors work hard in real life while non-donors with good combination of gears work hard ingame.
So... work hard either way. Getting what you want shouldn't be done in a blink of an eye. There must be challenges to make a server fun.

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Well that is my review on this server, I don't feel like finding screen shots or finding proof to back up my points, since if you join this server, you can find it out yourself on if I rated this server correctly or not.
Nope, you didn't. It was hyperbole in a bad way.
« Last Edit: Mar 27, 2009, 08:21 PM by Khaos »

Offline Cielte

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #11 on: Mar 27, 2009, 08:52 PM »
Here's a suggestion.

@tc,
proof, so people'll quit comin' around saying you're a liar.

@other two people who have went against Holy

Why don't you yourself bring proof that s/he is a liar.

Quote from: Khaos
Consider those signs of increasing amount of players because of the server's ACTUAL awesomeness.
Your opinion, I don't think it's awesome frankly. Hmm...


The server really deserves a 10. Otherwise, you want to leave the server on and forget about the big updates that only happens every month? The server HAS to be unavailable once in a while, otherwise the Anti-Bot/Packet and Low Rate in High Rate wouldn't exist!

Mhmm, an opinion, again. A low-rate in a high rate, eh? Should be one or the other, not both.


Quote from: Khaos
No one helps beggars. The GMs became qualified to become GMs because they were helpful, not because they HAD to help you.
Now, that's two people that called this dude a beggar. Proof of it? I don't see any.

Quote from: Khaos
Abusing power!? I insist you to stop being lazy and work some proofs up, otherwise only idiots would believe you.
[1.]And GMs are helping donors more than non-donors? Sounds like you just want to revive the siege between donors and non-donors by shouting a loud lie: "GMs are secretly helping donors more!"
[2.]Haze already tried to even up the conflict with the clone items which worked for everyone... other than yourself, I suppose.
[3.]The GMs help everyone as much as possible. The only different aid given to donors are their reward for donating.
Besides, Haze is more into finding ways to improve the server. For aiding the players, they'll be the other GMs' duties. Haze even takes some time to look inside the Technical Difficulties and Bug/Reports section of the forum, while most admins from other servers usually leave those sections to the other GMs. The good ideas are still being watched by GMs by the way. Balancing the pros and cons of those ideas and then will be taken into Haze's attention only if necessary.

[1.] It is a known fact that most servers praise donors, and give them more attention than non-donors.

[2.] And yet, donor equips are always going to be better.

[3.] Which is probably imbalanced.


Quote from: Khaos
You don't have to be a donor to be good. I've heard of non-donors being able to kill donors.
Consider donors work hard in real life while non-donors with good combination of gears work hard ingame.
So... work hard either way. Getting what you want shouldn't be done in a blink of an eye.There must be challenges to make a server fun.

M'hm, yet there will always be a kid who uses his parents credit card to get things in a blink of an eye.


Quote from: Khaos
Nope, you didn't. It was hyperbole in a bad way.

Once again, opinion. What I've noticed nowadays is if someone negativly reviews a server. Some people come bashing the poor person that does. Reviews are based on the players experience. And s/he shouldn't be bashed for it. Now, we can all just stop QQing and bring some proof, and we can see who is lying, and telling the truth.

Offline Chexmix

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #12 on: Mar 27, 2009, 10:37 PM »
Opinions =/= fact
no longer posting here

Offline Khaos

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #13 on: Mar 27, 2009, 11:27 PM »
Quote from: Raine
[1.] It is a known fact that most servers praise donors, and give them more attention than non-donors.
Yeah, just a +2 more than non-donators attention into processing their donation and rewarding them.
Praising donators? The only best praise given to them that I can think of is an email saying "Thank you for your donation! Your donation will help our server live longer! Have a nice day!"

Quote from: Raine
[2.] And yet, donor equips are always going to be better.
HOWEVER, they're still vulnerable just with the right non-donation equips, so you can strikeout that word "always". The only difference is that strong donor equips can be obtained if worked hard for in real life. While the strong non-doner equips can be obtained if worked hard for ingame.

Quote from: Raine
M'hm, yet there will always be a kid who uses his parents credit card to get things in a blink of an eye.
And how would a kid get a hold of his parent's credit card?
The credit card is the parent's responsibility.
And also, that kid would still have to pay with their parent's punishment [Work HARD on the punishment].
Whew... nothing can be received in a blink of an eye. ;D

Quote from: Raine
Now, that's two people that called this dude a beggar. Proof of it? I don't see any.
I never said he was a beggar, I only stated that beggars are not being helped, but he might be seeing that giving beggars some items is what HELP really stands for in the server. Just saying just to be reminded of the difference.
« Last Edit: Mar 27, 2009, 11:32 PM by Khaos »

Offline HolyOne

Re: DreamerRO
« Reply #14 on: Mar 27, 2009, 11:49 PM »
If you want proof it is all over their forum, by how bias they are towards a certain people, I also got conversation logs of haze admitting to a lot things, If i did post the conversation, my friend that actually got the conversation will get ban from the server(that person still plays that server for some reason). So i will not endanger my friend just to give you guys that are in your own little world right now proof, just to lose a friendship. Also me a begger, hmm not really, i actually got decent equipment before i quitted, i worked for my gear without begging for it. If you want proof of my gear, i can install dRO again for you and even screen shot a picture for you guys. Also as Raine said, you guys yourself should bring proof too, if you are here to prove that my whole rating is a "lie".

@Rena, You are clearly lying on how long you've played RO, and for your information i have played dRO for around 4-5 months. Just to let you know, haze modify his online amount by at least 100-150, so if there is 300 there is actually 200 and then when you minus all the venders there is actually only 100 at most people online.

@Khaos, I know you are a new GM and everything, so you actually HAVE to stick up for the server, so the next time you want to comment, please learn about the server's staff team before even trying to comment, and don't even start with me saying I don't know the staff, i actually know them pretty well, at least the "old" ones.

@Poki, I would be wasting my time if i actually want to dig up some dirt on them, since they are hardly online anymore and all the stuff that has been abused have been wipe clean from any evidence showing up.
« Last Edit: Mar 28, 2009, 12:03 AM by HolyOne »