Deceit in ParadiseRO- Gaming in Paradise?

[pROplayer39]

I've been around this server about a month or so, and been an active player of the community. I used to be a GM on many other servers, for a number of years, so I have some natural experience when it comes to analyzing servers, and their quality. But ParadiseRO is truly something else...

On the surface, it's a fun server with plenty of events, happy, easy-going GM's, and a reasonable staff. At first, for me at least, it was a very fun, and active server. It wasn't like rebirthRO LR, where the strongest guildleader in the server (powered by rice) actually had a few GM commands (suspicious eh? but saving this for another time). However, over time, if you're active enough, you notice things slowly. You notice things that are out of place, and having been a GM from some years ago, it slowly took a while to put the pieces together into a formal accusation.

In this server, there are GM's with "legit" ingame characters. In an ideal sense, a GM's "legit" ingame character is a great way to keep interactive with the server, and to keep some interest in it. But there are obvious downsides that all server-players can agree on, such as the possibility of illegitimate usage of GM commands to benefit himself or friends. At first sight, my trust in the GM team overwhelmed me in such that I did not believe they'd pull such an old trick...

But unfortunately, over time, there are some changes and occurrences in ParadiseRO that are not logical, and not logistically possible. One such example would be a certain high priest gaining lvl 92-97 in no more than 2.5 days. Upon inquiring, people would frequently mention the "speed of the player's internet connection". I find this to be a laughably bad alibi, as it sounds like the same, old classic case and scenario. This is a 4/4/3 server, and this particular high priest is not following the common idea and concept of "time". Furthermore, this high priest is a very good friend of the administrators of the server...

It would seem that this server is nothing better than the server's of the past; one which grants preferential treatment. One which allows GM's "legit" chars to interact in a serious LR community.

Before I get flamed or sworn by the server's loyalists, I would want to share one very effective phrase that has sniffed out classic corruption:

"Behind every great fortune, is a great crime." -Honore de Balzac


P.S.: some fortunes are too great to be explained.
P.S.S: I would mention this on the server forums, but they have a habit of banning voices like me.

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GM's having legit's? BULL s*** all they want is spawn some items for themselves.AND YOU SHOULD be extra carefull if they don t announce that they have legit s and who they are.i don t agree to this stupid idea that only leads to a TOTAL FREAKIN CORRUPT SERVER D:

[amberdragon]

I am also a close friend of the owner of that server, and i've never gotten a damn thing, not even credit for helping in finding the cause of a huge crashing bug. So i highly doubt anyone ELSE is getting special treatment, expectially the person you are talking about, considering they aren't really close to the high up gms. (most gms don't have the ability to do the things you claim they can)

and about that person gaining levels fast, a high priest can gain alot of exp in an exp share party, mvping, biolabs, there are several ways.  someone who plays 16 hours a day, for 2 and a half days, means 40 hours to play, grind, and level.

[Abel Vox]

I am the server owner of ParadiseRO.

First of all, I'm sorry if you are a banned player of ParadiseRO (for botting etc...)
What would cause you to say things about my server, I don't know but whatever the reasons are
I'm very sorry I could not meet your needs and keep you happy.

It is my goal as owner of ParadiseRO to keep every player happy, through mini games, events, Keeping the server
updated, donation free.. etc.. These are all my goals I want to make a player Utopia.
When making paradiseRO I was ready for things like, botters, hackers, flamers.. and posts like these.

The Game master team selected are good dear friends of mine from another server called MinorityRO.
I knew from their hard work on MinRO they would be great GMs on ParadiseRO, and I was not wrong.
My only regret was to ask them not to name their legits after their main characters. It causes players to
belive they are abusing their powers. Especially if they are in a guild. I keep tabs on the GM command logs,trade logs
etc. every morning and night before bed. Its a stressful job but its worth it, I do not want to waste money on a server
with currupt GMs. ( Pay for the server myself out of my own pocket ).

There are a few abnormal players on the server, one of them gained a large ammount of zeny very fast. I investegated her
and found out she got the zeny via a player quiting the server.
Another player leveled extremly fast, this was very strange because he just started the server and within half a month he was already lvl 90. The GMs investigated the player (mainly the bot hunters) to check for botting, but we found out the player used the party exp rule to his full advantage. The player did not bot but found a map in Achent (spelling) mummies and brought a Dancer/bard to the location. He had a party of 8 players each player would attack the AM once to increase the exp value and then he would kill the AM in the CP. Thus large ammont of exp. It wasn't against our rules,(he wasnt using a 3rd party program) he was just being very smart and found a way to lvl as a priest.

Of course when players seen this the first thing they see is, a bot, currupt GMs helping, or players hacking.
Again I am very sorry if you mis understood, we did not make this public because we did not think it would cause something like this.
And also if you were botting or got banned from the server(i do not label a person just because he cheated) I'm very sorry and hope
you will find another server to play on.

-ParadiseGM staff, ParadiseOwner Abel Vox

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Since this seemed interesting i got a bit deeper in it.
40hours =2400
I checked ur CP,it seems he is the only lvl 97 person.
K let s analyze
1 : MvP definitively a no no : because in 40hours ,how much mvp's can he kill,also there are  a lot of ppl in your server so he d have to share them lol (actualy they will get have to get them faster)
2bioloabs 100kx4 ,400k
Server being new i doubt he got the nescessary gear for bio (+++),40hours hmm let s give each mvp 4min's (seems fair for a bio3 mob lol)/divided by atleast a party of 5 equals:
80000k exp x 600 bio mob (wich is highly LOL) = 48.000.000EXP, nope 48 M is not enough for lvl 92-97

So w/e u say he can t have done that D: ,would he like to tell us how (i d like to know >.<)

Edit: ah sorry ,smart way to lvlup
AM=40K+(25%*=12000k EXP divided by 8persons=15k = HE WASTED SO MUCH TIME BY AM FOR A AM AND HALF LMAO D:

so each AM 8 ppl strike it let s go by 3mins each
15k x (2400mins/3)=108.000.000
during 40hours non stop ,no rest ,no break
Can someone check if 100M of exp is enough for lvl 92-97
but if im no fool IT S REALY WAY LOWER THEN what u need.(TRANS)

[Harabec]

Well call us corrupts then.
As for myself Iç¹"m with a clean conscious... and that makes a full new prespective.
As for players trying to get some reason to doubt GMs... they should first see a GM paying the full server from his own pocket...not asking for donations...banning the RL girlfriend for disrespect to a player... this is not sad...itç¹"s annoying.

Have fun... (in paradise).

[ILeveledFast]

Since this seemed interesting i got a bit deeper in it.
40hours =2400
I checked ur CP,it seems he is the only lvl 97 person.
K let s analyze
1 : MvP definitively a no no : because in 40hours ,how much mvp's can he kill,also there are  a lot of ppl in your server so he d have to share them lol (actualy they will get have to get them faster)
2bioloabs 100kx4 ,400k
Server being new i doubt he got the nescessary gear for bio (+++),40hours hmm let s give each mvp 4min's (seems fair for a bio3 mob lol)/divided by atleast a party of 5 equals:
80000k exp x 600 bio mob (wich is highly LOL) = 48.000.000EXP, nope 48 M is not enough for lvl 92-97

So w/e u say he can t have done that D: ,would he like to tell us how (i d like to know >.<)

Edit: ah sorry ,smart way to lvlup
AM=40K+(25%*=12000k EXP divided by 8persons=15k = HE WASTED SO MUCH TIME BY AM FOR A AM AND HALF LMAO D:

so each AM 8 ppl strike it let s go by 3mins each
15k x (2400mins/3)=108.000.000
during 40hours non stop ,no rest ,no break
Can someone check if 100M of exp is enough for lvl 92-97
but if im no fool IT S REALY WAY LOWER THEN what u need.(TRANS)

lol who said we need a big party? and no biolab no AM no MVP for leveling. It looks like IT WAS JUST A PRO LEVELING THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN THINK OF. no im not insulting you and you of being a smartass with all those calculation, but do remember if you can't do something that doesnt mean other people can't either.

good work on all that calculation but all wrong

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That s what your admin said u did.

[Buffie]

oh well since im bored and saw this s*** is happening and im the person the are talking about here i post my lvl way u can figure it out how much exp i get out of  a anubis

11 chars are hitting + mental sensing go do the math how much exp i get

btw transcend u seem to be good with the calcuting go give it a try =P

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sure anubis 30anubis per spawn @sphinx 5 (instant spawn)
exp in pRO 16800*4=67200 per anubis
With 11 chars hitting it it should take around ,let s go with 4mins if not less
2400/4= 600anubis
let see how much exp u get by anubis
67200 + (25%x 10)  PS: 10 not 11 becaue by default eAthena only counts 10 atackers.
67200 + 16800*10
=235200 divided by num of players 235200/11
21381,81 x 600 = 12.829.090,909090909090909090909091
Well boy this is a lie at 100% 12M of exp in 40hours is all u can get from anubis's NON STOP.
it s way lower than the AM's lol
With this way,to get from 92-97 ,let s say 20days min
AM's are better lol

[ILeveledFast]

lol do u know nething about "each take" party? well but its possible and since u did all the work for it now you know

[Buffie]

nah ther are no 30 anubis in sphinx 5 just 10 atleast here in paradise........and we do it on lvl 4 and ther are 15 so we get a mob every 2-5 minits and maybe ams would be faster but the job exp sucks tho its on each take not share =P but yeah ur calculate is good im getting 412 - 424 its random, well with our slacking and stuff on 97 > 98 i could pull of 10 ~ 14% a hour








Posted on: July 01, 2007, 09:01:44 PM

lol do u know nething about "each take" party?

finaly we have som smart ppl here gratz

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didn t see the mages and i only read share exp party in the admin's post so :p sowii
but maybe @lvl5 sphinx but at  lvl4 it s impossible
D: secret plox !!

[ILeveledFast]

didn t see the mages and i only read share exp party in the admin's post so :p sowii
but maybe @lvl5 sphinx but at  lvl4 it s impossible
D: secret plox !!

lol secret leaked QQ btw u forgot mental sensing =/ impressed u got so close number (wish that place not crowded now)

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Q_Q gimme.
go lvl 5 looks empty
sorry i feel ashamed but what s mental sensing :? (im an admin and i dunno what this skill is @_@?)