....continued Intense RO Review

Started by sheena, Feb 24, 2013, 08:37 AM

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sheena

Hi, I'm here to rate/review this server. So here's what I have to say. The server has @autotrade and allows dual clienting so the population is around 15 at the moment. This server wants to be a pure low-rate server close to International RO and claims it won't offer OP donation. So read on how they are doing.

Server Status /ho  3/5
Sometimes the server lags and you end up getting disconnected after a few hours from playing but its available most of the time.

Friendliness /ok   4/5
I can't deny there are a lot of friendly people in the server but someone was very rude to Puschel because he did not want a donation-type of game. Guess the was right because as you can see there are several imbalance items offered only as donation items. There are a lot of items that can only be obtained through donation so give them your money! See how others can be as rude as they can be http://boards.intense-ro.com/index.php?topic=158.0;topicseen

Event /...  0/5
As dry as the sand... no fun event at all

GM (Admin) /an  1/5
They are busy but when they're online they barely answer your questions. They're uncaring for the people that downloaded and played their game. They are seriously rude to players who disagree with them. Read on about how the admin handled the Rental Items thread.

Having these items up there just defeats the purpose of hunting items such as weapon cards. And some weapons are too strong to be easily obtained just like that, (CK? Mail Breaker? Sword Breaker?) Especially for just a cheap price. I strongly think this will ruin the game play within the server, how can you compare people that have worked hard for what they have hunted and for everyone else that can easily just vote and obtain a set within a day or two. OR EVEN NOW, since I bet everyone has been voting and would probably be up to around 60vote points or so.

They have edited the main page but the original post it did not say anything about 1 day rental. And guess how professional the GMs are:

1. How can it beat the purpose of hunting? First of all, all of the rental items are not usable outside PvM. Second, that is a 1 day rental item. Third, How can a player have a 60 vote points when the server just recently opened? the vote shop is up for a week and half. The purpose of the rental stuffs is to help people hunt their final equipment and  help them with their grinding. Also, the price is not even final yet. You should read my post where it states that all of this are in my TEST SERVER.Please think and read before you post. Thank you.Also, as what DiVarion says on his post, All rental gears are based on the official one. That means it is not slotted and not refinable.

2. If ask nicely, I'm pretty sure that my response wont be as bad as my last one. Also, your comment looks more like a rant.The reason why I did not put more info in the first post is for the players to ask or add a suggestion since I am finalizing my idea on how to implement this rental stuffs.


Its obviously rude for the GM to say its a rant since the original post did not say anything about rental items. The comment is so condescending like you don't know RO at all. By the way, You can vote x2 a day.

Sorry for that we're fairly new and please read our advertisement we already stated what GM's are for, " We will keep GM-player relationships strictly to a professional level only. If you have problems in the server you can post directly at our forums. Please note that we will not be spoon-feeding. " Thank you for the review.

See how uncaring they are? what did they say again? NOT spoon-feeding? isn't it the GM's responsibility to tell us what's going on with the server? They did implement that as 1 day rental items but the rudeness is infuriating. 

Rental items are allowed on pRO servers (Sakray) last time I checked, unless they changed that now.. And I was in the middle of writing my suggestions as a respond to Kazumi, when I read his reply and it just made my bloodboil.

Because of Moonfall's irresponsible and insensitive reply you'll get really mad. But lets give them the credit to script the technical part of RO. If your done with the Rental part here is another proof that GMs are rude and uncaring. From nj15 2013-02-16

As you can see or if you would want to check out the person's post this is the first time I replied like this since almost everything he wants is useless and none sense. Again sorry if the server doesn't fit your taste and goodluck finding a server for yourself.

Ironically, that guy suggested to keep the warps in the first place but the GMs are so biased they removed the warper even though the poll says http://boards.intense-ro.com/index.php?topic=67.0 No! So ugly and unsympathetic compared to what they are showing to you guys.

Economy /??  4/5
Its starting fresh with a zeny sink but you can gear-up decent enough to level and the drop rate is okay. The sad thing is its going to be a money-grab server because some items are donation-only. There are players who are buying there way through the game and the admin likes the $400 in their paypal account. The items in donation shop are better than what you can get in-game. Its ridiculous to see when someone sells/trade a high-level they're offered with donation $tuff! Talk about lazy-cows! someone just sits there waiting for somebody to get a rare card/item and offer cash. Those who can't stand the grind buys lots of BM even though the rates are pretty high already.

The real deal is Snipers hunting for items. They make the most money and level fast. The next would be Rogues with gank and AFKchemist in Moscovia. Others are so envious they even questioned the GM if they're giving out iRO box even though you get it from your friend for free.

Guild Competition /gg  n/a
They have woe base on the thread but its interesting since donation items like Headgears can be use to trade the hats for cards, weapons, etc. So it affects the equipment of other players that they start to feed lazy cash-cows at their own expense. Its so bad some greedy folks want woe even though most of the players aren't fully equipped and busy leveling. Around 3 fighting guilds are in. This is the only part that seems competitive since its all about the guild.


If that's not enough look at their guild package http://boards.intense-ro.com/index.php?topic=115.0 it totally screws your classic RO feel they promised not to mention the 'don't promise' part they say to themselves. Guild packages puts a lesser effort to guild to do the grind by giving them a jumpstart that official RO would never offer. It does give way to open a new guild but they're not fair to their own claim to give that classic RO experience.


This server is catered to those who wish to experience the official Ragnarok Online server experience. With already at least 60 players players planning to join the server on it's release date, we wish for you to come join the excitement.

Planning to join is not the same have those who have joined. Its about 15 people playing with dual clients and @autotraders

Class Balance /hmm  4/5
Same as the original server but some donation items make them imbalance. If you get all the items from donation shop with in-game items you can get around 70% damage reduction with GR armor in PvP. Decent gears can easily be hunted down. You need 300-4k kills for a monster card but somebody got a GR with ease. There was no Hypnotist NPC when the server started but its easy to convince the admin when you pay them real ca$h.


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Imbalance
Other than the donation shop. They also increased the EXP from Thor and some high-level map that screws the race to 99/70 level event even though they claimed no rewards to BM/Premium users x14 exp from Thor sure gives a lot of EXP. Their only event got screwed.
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Triper

QuoteRenal Items are released to help you get your level faster and help you grinding.

That's a really bad typo even if half lulzy.

On a side-note, aren't the Sakray servers made just for testing? At least kRO and iRO have them just for that so the way that "everything works" is not supposed to be the same as it's on the main servers unless Sakray at pRO is used for something else that I'm aware.

Also, have you already played on some of that WoE Servers spred around the web where -71% demi-human dmg reduction is available? If you did, you know that the dmg reduction is more of a balance vs beast dmg skills of RO that aren't that balance and to make 97-100 vit usable in some classes. Sure that you can tank a lot of stuff but if people want to kill you, you will die, the way you have to get that reduction doesn't make you anti-all and you've to swap certain piece of gear to compensate that.
If they added a slot to armor, it won't change much except with the use of MVP/mini-boss cards except if they made it in a different way from what is normal.
Care to explain how that is made to get the 70% dmg reduction and if it's just vs demi-human or vs all?

sheena

Quote from: Triper on Feb 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
That's a really bad typo even if half lulzy.

On a side-note, aren't the Sakray servers made just for testing? At least kRO and iRO have them just for that so the way that "everything works" is not supposed to be the same as it's on the main servers unless Sakray at pRO is used for something else that I'm aware.

Also, have you already played on some of that WoE Servers spred around the web where -71% demi-human dmg reduction is available? If you did, you know that the dmg reduction is more of a balance vs beast dmg skills of RO that aren't that balance and to make 97-100 vit usable in some classes. Sure that you can tank a lot of stuff but if people want to kill you, you will die, the way you have to get that reduction doesn't make you anti-all and you've to swap certain piece of gear to compensate that.
If they added a slot to armor, it won't change much except with the use of MVP/mini-boss cards except if they made it in a different way from what is normal.
Care to explain how that is made to get the 70% dmg reduction and if it's just vs demi-human or vs all?
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Any headgear with default 10% demi-human reduction that has a slot. You can find what you want in here http://boards.intense-ro.com/index.php?topic=94.0 but its random. Its not that hard to get those though.
GR/Bathory armor on a slotted elemental armor (Lucius...) but that depends on what you can wear. Its so sad people just buy there way in when you got high hopes it won't happen that way... or that easily.
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Triper

BG gears mixed to get armor with a slot won't give you that much reduction like you said even if 64% is already good[mixing kvm with flavius armor].

With KVM you can get 69% but still, it's as I said, it balances a bit the game since anyone can survive more instead of 1-2hits drop, next vs high dps/burst dmg. Most of the time, for GvGs, stacking ranged dmg like a boss+some demi-human > that near 70% reduction since you can get near 65-75% ranged reduction dmg along 4-19% demi-human reduction[depends on what is available].

Also which ones have -10% and 1 slot? The only near to that was Helm of Abyss, from what I saw making a quick check in most of them, but that is just vs boss monsters since you get +10% dmg from demi-humans.


About Elemental armors, they don't work like that[unless they changed it to work as you say]. If you add a GR to a fire[1] you don't get pasana+gr effect, just one of them and I think it's just the card that you add to the armor which in this case you would end with a GR[I don't know why but I always forget this except the rule of thumb - never mix elemental armors with elemental cards, one makes puff ...].
They were always a part of the game for ages, fire is just easier to get since it drops from Ifrit nowadays and the others come from Hugel Games which is super boring to do, imo, they really need to add a better/easier/less boring way to get them ...

Fruit Pie~

They removed the Kafra warps?

My eyes cannot believe what I'm reading, but it seems to be all there in their forums! They removed... the Kafra warps. Is this another one of those new-school RO private server things where they must make RO harder than the official servers? What is going on here?

Also, about the whole demi-human resist gear thing, AD is still going to drop you in two hits no matter what. I had a WoE Rogue with 55% DH resist plus 20% neutral reduction and 15k HP. AD dropped him in two hits. I can't see that going above three hits even with 70% unless you're playing something with stupid HP like a Frenzy LK or a Taekwon Ranker. And those are noticeably ineffective at doing anything but taking damage.

And yes, GR will take effect and override Lucius. Why would you use a Ghost/Fire combo anyway? Lucius is a PVM armor, but mobs ignore Ghost. GR is a PVP card, but nothing in PVP does any appreciable amount of Fire damage.

EDIT : Water is a much better element against Professors, just in case someone points out Fire Bolt.

Triper

Well, I play quite some times with that "mechanics" on servers where you can BG for pots and other items to use there/WoE so you can pot AD without any problems with just thara+kvm full set+fb. Even with 110 vit you can still pot AD unless is some ahk creator user under bragi but I can understand the problems on servers where there isn't pots that easy to use since it's boring to farm mats for that.

lucius and gr has uses for both pvm/pvp, just limited as many other gear that aren't to default 24/7 but to swap when needed.
GR still reduces EQ/Hell's Judgment by a ton from MVPs even if it's easier to just not make the MVPs use that.
Lucius is still a better pasana[in some situations] then an armor with one because you can use a marc, for example, with it.

sheena

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Quote from: Fruit Pie~ on Feb 24, 2013, 03:49 PM

My eyes cannot believe what I'm reading, but it seems to be all there in their forums! They removed... the Kafra warps. Is this another one of those new-school RO private server things where they must make RO harder than the official servers? What is going on here?

Its the dungeon warp not the town warp but it cost more than usual. They also modified the drop rates of item-dropping cards lower than official RO. They also have a zeny sink with the original cost of Mail, Storage, Warp and Heal cost up to 4k++ but they also plan to add a 15% vend tax. Although its not really much of a problem since you can still sell more loots than that. Its just annoying for the storage cost to be over 4k when you just want to store the item. Why not join iRO but don't use the obvious name... haha

The G-Majestic Goat, IloveChina  and the other closest one is another Kafra Hat. My bad got the hats and slots mixed.
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ragnazorg

#7
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You need 300-4k kills for a monster card but somebody got a GR with ease.

where did you get this info? COOL STORY.

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There was no Hypnotist NPC when the server started but its easy to convince the admin when you pay them real ca$h.

This was planned way before the server started we only waited for some players inputs about this. BTW, I'm the only admin of the server. Moonfall is a developer not admin.

Anyway,

Thanks for the review~ Sorry if our server didn't fit your needs or expectations. Good luck with your future endeavors though.

Playtester

No matter how rare a card is, it can still happen that you get it on first kill.

Olrox

Who the hell makes a review of a server that is in "open beta" stage? And I'm saying this because it is fun how is he pointing out "Guild competition and population", facts.

At least let the server open and then think about saying crap, not before.


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ragnazorg

I did check the database before editing my post and no one got GR card, that's why I asked where he/she get his info from.

sheena

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This server had around 46+ players online (approximately 10 are vend merchants and each IP allows 2 dual accounts) Now its around 20 more or less. Its loosing it population mainly because of 'another server opening soon' that promises the features IntenseRO failed. The greatest failure is allowing iRO surprise box headgears during the start. During the close-beta stage, they did not show the donation items to others making it a guessing game for non-beta players. Even if its random, there are still a huge number of items up for ca$h. If you ask me, the chances of getting a good hat out of it is similar to http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=random_db&op=1&gid=26.

Again, the x2 EXP from high-tier monsters allows players to skip others that were playing before that. Slay Hunter, Polina, Sinned to name a few. Were one of the leading players (Primal was off because he prefers to MVP) during its release but they got shoved out because high-tier maps give x2 more EXP (x14 without manuals) and it goes above x25 (bonus EXP) when you go premium account! That's low-rate to midrate! Btw, EXP booster disqualifies players to join the event. You can hit max-level in no time. Making others feel bored after it. Some items that where made in default was taken away because a player thought it can be abused for the race to max level event but the EXP rate is still high so it did not matter. Take note of the EXP stated above.

Don't bother asking for a wipe since this server is in debt of the top players throwing out their money. Especially, to get those donation-items. That $400 was just from 1 player. The ones who stayed seems to be some folks that pioneered during the server launch except Cyberlorde, MySQL, etc who have long abandoned the game even though some of them where part of the closed-beta testers. Ironically, these folks are going to another server that has warps and +10 food. Something that they did not want in IntenseRO. 

They're planning to open WOE but it might be too late since one guild stiopped playing and the guy who said 'I will bring my guild of 50 people' has left the game. I think I know who that was. Its really sad how this server turned awry.

The supposed zeny sink from Rachel Sanctuary was eased out not because the total donation got lowered (which was reasonable) but the intervention of a GM to lower it down by donating himself. It is kind of him to do that but it made a major impact to the economy since zeny becomes less relevant. Look at how much zeny people have now and the server launch was Jan 26, 2013 I did earn a big amount of zeny here and pvp or hunting items so I can't judge people who spend more time playing RO than in real life. The zeny booms so high that the zeny sink did not stop us from earning more. It did manage to drain around 100k for players who use teleport, heal and storage and the droprate of some items (except for gold) are still high for OC.

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Another thing how this server is loosing its players is boredom. Its starting to get boring. Some players outright say they're bored. No event, nothing to excite players to join. This problem lies on the owner's reply below:

Nowadays every player expects cushy gaming, GM's are often mistaken as the "facade of the server" but in reality it's the community/players.

Honestly, GM's are the facade of the server. If you look and compare the official server and private RO its in the management or the personal touch of the GM's admin that affect how players like the game. Since official servers are too big to handle on a personal level, privates are not. Another thing is GM's missing in action. The funny thing is Kazumi is telling the people (who are still playing in the game) to find another one. No sense of retention and AFK right beside you! If you can't keep up with your players, maybe appoint someone to do the job but won't treat you like an a$shole.

/wah

@Olrox
If a server is in open-beta stage, that means wipeout can happen anytime but its not the same crap your talking about.
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ragnazorg

O_O huh? Look for another one?

Cawliflower

Quote from: ragnazorg on Mar 18, 2013, 10:19 AM
O_O huh? Look for another one?
Wow... lol. You really should learn how to be an Administrator, camz. That's not a professional reply from a server owner. How about you go out of your way to cater to the player, listen to their opinions, and try to mesh them into your vision for the server? Anyway, don't expect much from other owners nowadays. Just a quick buck for most anyway, and that's a shame.

Outside of a mediocre site created by YHMWHY for an overpriced price-tag, IntenseRO hasn't really ever impressed me. I'd suggest trying Talon or a server with experience and a stable staff team who gives a damn.
Quoteyesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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sheena

Yeah, its really sad how some defeatist GMs can be when under pressure.
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