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Title: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Blackout01 on Nov 19, 2009, 08:15 AM
Well, bRO is great. The community is okay, except for those who scams people AND FOR THE BLUNT AND ARROGANT GMS. ESPECIALLY GM-ANXIETY, GM-APOSTASY, AND A LOT MORE.


GM's REVIEW:
I THOUGHT THE SERVER PROMOTES, FAIR GAME PLAY. HELPFUL AND FRIENDLY GM'S BUT I GUESS NOT. THEY ARE BANNING PEOPLE FROM DOING NOTHING, IF THEY JUST HATE THE PERSON.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW COME GM-BLACKOUT ( SERVER'S OWNER ) ALLOW THIS KIND OF DOINGS BY ITS GM. SINCE GM-ANXIETY IS THE HIGHEST RANKED GM WHO IS NEXT TO GM-BLACKOUT.

NO WORRIES I WILL BE STAYING, IT WILL NOT CONTRADICT MY PLAYINGS FOR THOSE STUPID GMS. WELL, IF EVER I WILL GET BANNED FOR SOME NO REASON, WELL I MIGHT DO SOME ACTION. ;] AHAHA

SERVER'S REVIEW:
SERVER LAGS SO MUCH --> I DO NOT KNOW HOW COME THEY CANNOT IMPROVE IT (THEY EARN TOO MUCH FROM US). I THINK IN A DAY WE GET 'SERVER CONNECTION CLOSE' THEN IT WILL ROLL BACK.

SERVER'S RULES:
NOT ALL RULES ARE BEING FOLLOWED.
(Copied from bRO's Site)
1. Respect all members of the server ( players and GMs ). You may not like everyone, or get along, but giving respect to them is not optional. well, yeah players are somewhat rude.. not all but some are very helpful..
2. Do not use any variation of "GM" in your character's name, guild name, or guild title. GM impersonation is considered an attempt to scam players and will not be tollerated. Yeah you guys! xD
3. Do not impersonate any other player on the server. There has been a problem in the past with players doing this to take advantage of the friends of those who that impersonate.This also will not be tolerated. Yeah, someone impersonated a friend.
4. Do not ask any GM if you can (or how to) become a Game Master. GM are chosen by the administrator, and it is not a democratic process.I remember before a GM told me that don't try to much to be a GM, lol, I never want to be a GM of this server actually, cause the GM's whose going to teach me, is not really following the rules (somehow)
5. Do not summon mosters anywhere but in the Dead Branch arena.
6. Do not spam skills or chat in any of the main towns.
7. Do not attempt to cheat the server, or any individual player. This includes but is not limited to scamming which is an attempt to mislead another player so that you can basically "rip them off". Bad players.. I hate them
8. Do not Kill/Loot Steal. This means intentionally attacking a monster that someone else has already been killing, or running up and taking the loots it drops before the MVP can get to it. Please note: The use of @autoloot can significantly reduce the chances of loot stealing.
9. Do not use offensive language. Punishments of this vary due to the severity of the action. Hmmm. Doesn't this also apply to the GM's? They always do that all the time. When I use to report before, they said that is not a problem though it is written here that it will be punished, they even scolded me for wasting their time. And what is this HARSHLY DEALT WITH? Hmmm, some of the GM's are really RACIST and ALWAYS CURSE (in game, forums and irc)... xD hehe...
- Profanity: This is the use of "swear" or "curse" words. There is a very small amount of lenience with this, but should the terms become offensive, the appropriate action will be taken.
- Racial slurs: This is the use of degrading statements or terms directed at a group or individual based on their race. This will NOT be tollerated under any circumstances, and will be harshly dealt with.
- Sexual nature (or use of sexual terms in character, party, guild, or title names): This is the use of any sexual terms, mention of any genetalia, or sexual inuendos. This also includes the use of letters, numbers, and other characters to present obscene images. Like racism this will be deal with harshly, and without warning.
10. Do not block NPCs by places your chats over them, and do not place chats at the spawn point. All chats need to be at the very least 5 cell blocks away from spawn points, portals, and NPCs.
11. Do not harass other players. This is the act of swearing at/insulting an individual for an extended period of time. I.E. following someone through town making fun of them, or broadcasting personal insults directed at them. Players are real people, with real feelings, and should be treated as such.
12. Do not abuse the broadcaster. While we do not mind the occassional "Happy Birthday (insert name)", "Will you marry me (insert name)?", if it starts to get out of hand, the price or delay time will be raised, or it may just be disabled completely for the day.

13. Attempting to evade punishment: This is logging onto another character after having been muted, getting on another account while banned, or changing IPs to avoid an IP block. You may log out, but you cannot log onto another account.

14. It is illegal to sell in-game items or zeny for real life money! This includes LOAD. (Cause they are the one who wants to earn from us. They want you to donate, then ban you. ;])

15. Trading items on Blackout for other servers' items (or vice versa) is illegal.

Notice : GM's aren't responsible for LOST or STOLEN items. I can't understand why, they want us to report those scammers but then they won't return the stolen items? I know they are not responsible, but isn't it they should HELP US?

Rules for Game Master

1. Treat ALL players with respect.  ( Yeah, how come they are not following this? Too sad..  >:( )

2. Do not spam skills in town or PvP. (Lol. They always do that, not really THEY, but I saw today. GM-Anxiety killing everyone beside him. and saying to everyone STFU, I DONT CARE, WAIT FOR ME TO DO IT WHEN I WANT TO, AND MANY MORE. ;])

3. Do not attack players in PvP unless requested. If you're in PvP, you should be in hiding. Should you choose not to hide and a player attacks you, you are at fault, not the player.

4. Do not share/give away ANY items unless it is given as a reward for winning an event, and even in this case, GM equips are not to be given to players. I.E. Ahura Mazdad ect. With this one, I had a friend who befriended a GM, and he told me that "this" GM that he befriended gave him items, for his birthday? -- Not sure with this one, but I do believe him. Why would he lie? Right?

5. Do not use GM commands to assist in leveling or aid the player in any way.

6. Do not give lenience to the players whom you've befriended. They should be treated as any other player, and should not be given "slack"/benefits. Applies to #4. xD

7. Do not engage in conversations with players on topics of illegal or sexual nature. Yeah!!!

8. GMs disobeying the rules will have their IP banned, no warnings.

Any breaking of these rules will result in punishment set forth by the administrator. What if the ADMINISTRATOR is the one doing it?, I wonder why the other ADMIN left the server

Here is a quotation of what I read from the bRO's Forums;http://board.blackout-gaming.net/?showtopic=34043
Edited out the cussing and finger pointing, just stating facts and reasons why I'm quitting. Anxiety allowed me to post this thread saying as long as I don't cuss it stays, so stop deleting my goodbye thread >_>.



Well my long journey here at bRO has finally come to a close. Some of you may know me, some of you may know of me, and some of you may not know me at all. Either way, most people who know me will remember me for two things: 1) Being bRO's most famous homosexual (even though I'm not really homo) and 2) being bRO's most likely guy to flame a fool on the forums.

Well since I'm leaving, I thought heck why not go doing what people know me best for. The reason I'm quitting bRO is because Anxiety has decided to ban one of my longest standing guildmates and longtime friend, Fatty, for the reasons stated below. You guys may know him better as Andrew, penguu, or simply GM-Dozy.

<Dozy> yo
<Dozy> i know my gm char is blocked/banned, but can you take off the IP ban and just leave a ban on the gm account if my GM account is still stripped?
<Dozy> so i can at least visit or play or whatever on a non-gm account
<Dozy> why was i ip banned instead of just the account being blocked :x
<Dozy`sleep> why would i be ip banned for just getting my gm stripped? i dont understand... i know chewy still plays on her legit when she got her gm stripped
<Anxiety> Because I don't like you.
<Dozy`sleep> whats that have to do with getting my gm stripped
<Dozy`sleep> thats fine if my gm is stripped but why should that affect my legit account
<Anxiety> Because I'm abusive.
<Anxiety> Anything else?
<Dozy`sleep> ...
<Dozy`sleep> what have i done to you
<Dozy`sleep> or the server?
<Anxiety> I don't really need a reason to do what I do.
<Anxiety> If I deem you aren't fit to play here anymore after losing your gamemaster title.
<Anxiety> Than that's how it is.


Long story short, Anxiety came back from a five-month hiatus in which he was traveling in Asia. When he came back he decided that he wanted to change things around. The result? Biddy, Touhou, Apostacy, Deimos, Chewy either quitting or being stripped from the GM ranks. Biddy leaves pretty much saying that Anxiety can "keep the corrupt server for himself". (In quotes she said it).

I assure you all that Biddy and Touhou were two of the best GMs that have ever presided over this server. I BELIEVE that without Biddy, GM corruption will run high. How do I know? GM-Anxiety was originally a GM a long time ago and he got BANNED for oh... corruption. What a coincidence. But for some reason, he was re-admitted into the GM ranks and promoted to the top dog. If you guys think that the server isn't already corrupt, you're all trippin. However, this is of my own OPINION. You all can decide for yourselves how you feel about this server. Here is my side-story to help jolt your opinions.


Did you guys know there was something called a Thara Clip on this server? For some of you oldies, the name Ashtray might come to mind. This guy donated some 1,800 USD to the server and SOMEHOW got a Thara Clip. Yes, a clip, with a thara card in it (30% reduced demi-human damage). He also got something called a Fallen Bishop Hibram Card, which slots into your shoes and does 50% more damage to demi-humans. In case you guys don't know, Fallen Bishop Hibram Card doesn't drop on this server. Long story short, this guy quit and his stuff is finally gone. Then randomly, I started to suspect that someone was still using one. I wasn't sure if it was Ashtray's or not, but I suspected it was. I asked Fatty to search it up using GM-Dozy and sure enough, he had a Thara Clip[1]. The result? Biddy's deletion of the Thara Clip[1] from the server. That was something that should never have existed on the server. Guess what folks? Guess who was pushing to unban the Thara Clip and the player? Kivon. Why? Cuz they were guildmates from Kivon's time in bRO. Guess who is still a GM? Kivon.

Guess what else, folks? Biddy and Dozy are gone.

Pretty much this whole scenario can be summarized by a single post by one of our NEW members on our private forums. I'm going to hide her name because Anxiety might random ban her too and she just started so I'm keeping her name a secret ;].



Theres a ton of corruption going on in this server and I can assure you all of that. Since I'm quitting I might as well say that I'm the guy vending in hugel 100 100. The coin and converter vendor, Fake Char I through IX. I can also assure you guys that since Biddy and Touhou quit, I've been making a HELL of money. Why? Cuz the botters and dupers have been running wild because they're now all freaking rich and throwing their money around to vendors like me =].

This server's going down the drain thanks to the stunt that Anxiety's pulled and I don't wanna have anything to do with it. If it's going to just get corrupt and then end up wiping itself in a few months, hell I'd rather quit now while I'm ahead instead of wasting my time. I'm quitting in protest of Anxiety and so are a number of other players who are the only remains of one of bRO's longest-standing guilds. Enjoy what's left of the server, everyone else.

Cheers

Tomo Satsui and Co.

(quotation out)..

HERE'S WHAT RETIRED GM-BIDDY'S HAVE TO SAY ON HER GOOD BYE LETTER http://board.blackout-gaming.net/?showtopic=33777
Hur hur I realized I never made a hello topic back then when I joined the server but anywho, this is not a hello topic but a goodbye topic. I am resigning because I don't really like where this server is going and I don't want to be part of it any longer. It was fun while it lasted, but all good things must come to an end, eventually. I would like to thank my trainees for making GMing so much fun, ilu guise, you are superawesometastic. Stay fabulous k <: I wish the best of luck to you and I wish the not so best luck to the admin team. Ciao.

PS. Flames, you quit before me and you actually came back (several times!), you lost the bet k.

Just read over the lines. xD Hehehe.


WELL, EVERYTHING IS IN HERE. ;] THAT IS THE SERVER. 5/10 --> I rated 5 because I enjoyed playing it with my friends. xD Well Yeah. xD I hope I won't get banned for this, since I guess one of the admins here are "friends" with the Admin of bRO..


CHEERS,

BTW, I wanted to be anonymous since I don't want my account to be banned somehow, but if ever they traced me then banned me.. It's ok, I guess a very big farewell to the server.  ;D C yah.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Usagimimi on Nov 19, 2009, 08:18 AM
... This seems more like a hate thread towards the GMs than a review.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: McManus on Nov 23, 2009, 11:55 PM
Skippy on down to the posts from their forums, pretty solid as a review of the GMs if ya ask me.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Usagimimi on Nov 24, 2009, 12:11 AM
It was editted; it was about 700 characters before.

Now it's more thorough and acceptable as a review, and not a GM flame war.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Blackout01 on Nov 24, 2009, 02:26 AM
Yeah, sorry for that, well, sad to say about this server. xD Well, if you are playing it now. You will be discourage, even though there are a lot of people playing. The admin I am talking about, had his leave for about 3 months, then when he went back. BOOM. 4-5 GM's left and players.


Quote from: Yusifer on Nov 24, 2009, 12:11 AM
It was editted; it was about 700 characters before.

Now it's more thorough and acceptable as a review, and not a GM flame war.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Nish on Nov 24, 2009, 01:30 PM
Yeah I always knew blackout Ro had some GM issues and I did play there for maybe a week before realising this server wasn't worth it.

btw fallen bishop card only effects magic on Demi humans but still handy for magic users.

As for the thara clip that's silly.. even if he did donate ALOT, some people need to spend there money in better ways :P

Just another some what large server who hires arrogant GM's.. I doubt the Admin really cares unless the money keeps rolling in.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Turok on Mar 18, 2010, 05:36 AM
My only question is "WHY THE HECK YOU STILL PLAYING?" HELL!! after 1 week i noticed the corruption, and hell i'll be damned if i ever rejoin such a server....
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 18, 2010, 12:19 PM
I guess it's for his friends on the server. However, I would have left as well.
That conversation with Anxiety was just plain rude... wow. After 5 months, he came back and did all that? That is really unjustified. BlackoutRO really needs to think about their staff members. So many people complained about GM corruption, yet they still do nothing after all this time. They need to get this to their heads sometime before they lost a lot of good players and uncorrupted staff members. I hope everything will be better, but for now, it's kind of hard to see that.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 18, 2010, 12:41 PM
Last I went at Blackout Champs and Pallys rule pvp
Pretty much a few good ones left that I know
Too much crap thrown in there faces so meh
They left for "better servers" out there and so should you
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 18, 2010, 02:52 PM
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 18, 2010, 12:19 PM
I guess it's for his friends on the server. However, I would have left as well.
That conversation with Anxiety was just plain rude... wow. After 5 months, he came back and did all that? That is really unjustified. BlackoutRO really needs to think about their staff members. So many people complained about GM corruption, yet they still do nothing after all this time. They need to get this to their heads sometime before they lost a lot of good players and uncorrupted staff members. I hope everything will be better, but for now, it's kind of hard to see that.

bRO didn't do anything? Anxiety did clean out the corrupt/inactive GMs.

The GMs that didn't agree with his decision or the way he implemented it quit.

That's the whole story.

Yes, Anxiety can be blunt (and, well, an a******--his words, not mine) to the point of disbelief, but he also deserves a lot more praise than the hostility he gets for returning the server to respectability. Yes, innocent staff members might have lost or resigned from their positions, and I have great sympathy for them--hell, I was (and still am) friends with three of them. But when an executive decision is made with the intention (I'm not saying result, merely intention) of improving the server, there will always be players/staff members who disagree in favor of another alternative. Unless you can control multiple dimensions, there's really no way to implement everybody's ideas. If some people feel impassioned enough to resign or leave the server, it's sad, but it's their perogative. I just don't understand why there's the automatic assumption that staff members, corrupt or innocent, leaving the server means some kind of apocalypse. People come and go, and the server moves on.

Also, make sure you pay attention to the date of the last post before Turok bumped it. I'm not saying the opinions of past posters aren't valid, but they might not be so easily applicable to the state of the server anymore.

Plus, Anxiety really isn't that bad a guy once you get to hang out with him a little. Even with all the s*** I give him, he's always treated me well.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 18, 2010, 02:59 PM
I didn't say they do nothing in general--they didn't do anything with the GM corruption. I mean, just look at that conversation. You didn't say anything about the conversation the person typed... so are you saying that's what he said? That's a very unprofessional way of firing people. Anxiety was corrupted before, too? Why hire corrupted people back? I don't understand how some server works at times.

Good thing that Anxiety changed o-o. The revival of the threads just show that the problem isn't completely solved. Well, if things have changed, perhaps a new review about the server would be nice? I don't see really... any good review about the GMs for BlackOutRO at all (RMS forums).
Edit: Yeah, just a few months ago. Have you considered that it's because Anxiety got back some months after the last post before Turok bumped it? It just means... something is up o-o.

I hope the server does turn better though.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Turok on Mar 19, 2010, 02:07 PM
with ahura mahzda already out in the throng of people... i doubt it ever could unless a complete wipe... but then that'd be the end for many players i think? XDi sure wouldnt go back with all that corruption regardless of all my friends... i'd find a new server and invite my friends XD
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 19, 2010, 03:16 PM
There isn't a single Ahura on the entire server. I'm not sure if even the official GM characters have any. I'm not sure where you got your information, but it's wrong.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 19, 2010, 03:46 PM
Well, I hope it is wrong or else that's a really bad idea for a donation item.

I still believe with the contradiction there o-o.

Then, I think a new review should be written from a current player. Turok, maybe you can write a new review to bring some light into this XD? And maybe provide some proof? Then, nobody will go against your points at all. So far, from what I've heard from everyone, there is still GM corruption, but I won't bother to write a review about that (just heard from many people, so I don't want to play it in the first place). A new review would be nice instead of reviving this one again I suppose.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 19, 2010, 05:28 PM
http://img97.imageshack.us/g/donations4.png/

These are the donations. Nowhere in that list, and nowhere in the server, will you find an Ahura. (Yes, the images have been edited. This are the accurate, authentic, and entire list you will see when you register with the server, and there is nothing left out. I just wanted to both preserve my privacy and protect you all from having to look at the twenty thousand GFAQs tabs I have open at a time. :P)

Also, I agree with Yukino, I would like to see some proof of the corruption you keep mentioning. To be honest, I'm getting rather tired of your exaggerations and fibbing (what with your Server Report and your constant false claims of an Ahura on the server), and I personally require justification to continue giving you the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, you're just spreading rumors and causing unnecessary drama.

I know RMS loves drama and all, but with the sheer amount of posting Turok has done against bRO, I'd like to see if what he says has any merit, and I hope you guys--and you too, Yukino--would at least demand facts before concurring with them (also without providing evidence, might I add).
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 19, 2010, 06:12 PM
Post proof Turok and then we can all merrily talk/spam/hate/flame/ and etc about it
BlackoutRO stays the same as all we can see till then
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 19, 2010, 06:16 PM
I would have demanded facts about the ahura thing, but I was more concerned with the GM corruption which people have provided proofs from above and in another thread o-o. That was my main point of my posts, wouldn't you agree? I don't want to get caught up in this drama because I know some things about BlackOutRO from other people (and they have proof I'm sure). I wouldn't bother to show proofs though since I'm not an actual player--just a bystander who knows from real players of the server.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 19, 2010, 06:19 PM
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 19, 2010, 06:16 PM
I would have demanded facts about the ahura thing, but I was more concerned with the GM corruption which people have provided proofs from above and in another thread o-o. That was my main point of my posts, wouldn't you agree? I don't want to get caught up in this drama because I know some things about BlackOutRO from other people (and they have proof I'm sure). I wouldn't bother to show proofs though since I'm not an actual player--just a bystander who knows from real players of the server.

I agree, plus I know a few good players from there and so far this topic made them lol
Drama always happens, inevitable fact
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Turok on Mar 19, 2010, 11:59 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 19, 2010, 03:16 PM
There isn't a single Ahura on the entire server. I'm not sure if even the official GM characters have any. I'm not sure where you got your information, but it's wrong.

just going off what i seen on one of these posts about blackoutRO and the Ahura Mahzda... btw how would you know if theres not "a single" 2199 item in the server lol...? u think the players gonna walk up to every pleyer be like "HEYYY I HAVE AN ILLEGITE ITEM"
Posted on: Mar 19, 2010, 03:20 pm
Quote from: The Rape on Mar 19, 2010, 06:12 PM
Post proof Turok and then we can all merrily talk/spam/hate/flame/ and etc about it
BlackoutRO stays the same as all we can see till then
I already posted the proof of what happened with me.. the ahura mahzda deal was with someone else... im just "using it as an example of corruption?" although from what i seen so far i seriously would not doubt that its there.... this server reminds me so much of CursedRO (which i actually know for a fact had 2199's running around, Donate GMS...pay $35 become a GM? wtf? glad it closed...) and well if Bro is anything like Cro was... i hope it closes too....  certainly does not have a good community or even decent GM's.... (I seen better communitys more approachable GM's on servers now dead ffs) any GM that kicks a guy from IRC for not knowing much about RO and is trying to ask for help... should not be a GM in my opinion.... a GM is supposed to have patience and understanding for newcomers right? and not be mean make the newcomer feel so unwelcome? well thats how they are in Bro mean, unapproachable, play favourtisms..., laugh about kicking some poor shmuck.. not all too helpful either... hell i was in IRC seen a guy kicked several times for not understanding english too well... poor guy just wanted to know about how he could learn "more" about certain items... (they didnt even tell him about Ratemyserver)
Posted on: Mar 19, 2010, 03:30 pm
furthermore wtf?
what i wrote and what they trying to "claim" that i wrote look totally "different"?
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5579/therealreviewrofl.png
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3859/roflagain.png
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 20, 2010, 01:43 AM
? About your screenshots... if you were wondering why one was removed or criticized, it's because you mentioned another server's name (ZetaRO). Maybe your new one won't be removed?
Edit: Also, just start a new review thread to talk more about BlackOutRO in detail. People don't want others to revive this thread apparently.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 20, 2010, 11:47 AM
@turok
Your "proofs" are simply your reviews and even tried advertising ZetaRO which violates another guideline of NOT advertising another server
BRO irc chat auto kicks but that doesn't mean there being one sided, hell i was kicked couple times but i just log back on
They may be unfriendly or unhelpful at the irc chat but 75% of the time someone will help you, 25% of the time seems to be your wrong timing
furthermore, Did you even check there forums for information? Post at forums for help? Explore ingame? Yu can't count on some good guy who will show you all the ropes, not everyone of even GM's have the time for that on every single player on there 500+ community
And I'll say it again, unless there is solid proof of ahura mazdahs (god shield) at BlackoutRO, then there is nothing else to talk about
You had a bad experience at BlackoutRO, get over it and move on to another server, simple as that
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Tom~ on Mar 20, 2010, 11:53 AM
Can't believe no one has noticed this yet: http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,13900.msg99604.html#msg99604 (http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,13900.msg99604.html#msg99604)

Seems familiar?  (http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3859/roflagain.png)

That report is not even from a bRO GM. It's a report made by Hyde, neRO's current admin.

Sorry Turok ):
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 20, 2010, 12:25 PM
Reading this thread, I'm pretty confident that I would actually put money up as a bet that Turok probably got his teeth kicked in while in PvP, is angry about it, and like 90% of other RO players, is blaming the server instead of his own shortcomings.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 20, 2010, 12:26 PM
Oh right, that's his review for NeverEndingRO... doesn't even have anything to do with BlackOutRO. Kind of forgot that xD. Well, just to say, that review is removed because ZetaRO was mentioned. However, your newest one probably won't since you didn't advertise this time (though they might question about the low scores for the GM section of the review since you didn't talk about GMs at all in your review explanation...). It doesn't matter if you had the same points--one advertised about another server, so that's why it was criticized and probably removed.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Habuka on Mar 20, 2010, 04:44 PM
I know this is a bit off topic but I noticed your post's on this forum are alot like the post's on the review's for other server's.

You constantly use "..." when you try to prove a point or when you switch to a diffrent idea.

@On topic.

The GM's on cRO wernt even that bad.

It was the owner that had a larger problem (The GM's did have some bad thing's about them aswell).

Try not to talk about other server's in your topic because it just defeat's the whole purpose regarding the arguement because almost no one on RMS has ever played cRO.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 20, 2010, 06:49 PM
Quote from: Tom~ on Mar 20, 2010, 11:53 AM

Sorry Turok ):

:o
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 20, 2010, 11:10 PM
i was looking on servers to play,, since my server genesisro is dead already due to lack of money :)

i found this server black out ro , i think this is a good server
but the only thing that i noticed,,when i was about to login in :)) it sas you are banned in this server lol..
its like my  first time to login in that server then i got banned already :)

haha i hope that they will fix it... because my friends are there in blackout ro :) i am willing to help the server too if they want too hehe .. :D thats all i want to say..
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Habuka on Mar 20, 2010, 11:36 PM
Your amazing.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 20, 2010, 11:46 PM
i dont like the gm there who is gm anxiety.. he doesnt know how to handle and be friends with the players. he is like the boss. he do what ever he wants. its unfair to ban players in the forum chat room. for just saying " i hope anxiety realizes that i really want to play to his server". then after saying that in the forum chat room -.- he banned me..

thats so...pissing me off.. but anyways... i dont like that gm..
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: GorthexTiger on Mar 21, 2010, 04:26 AM
Quote from: pr3zs on Mar 20, 2010, 11:10 PM
i was looking on servers to play,, since my server genesisro is dead already due to lack of money :)

i found this server black out ro , i think this is a good server
but the only thing that i noticed,,when i was about to login in :)) it sas you are banned in this server lol..
its like my  first time to login in that server then i got banned already :)

haha i hope that they will fix it... because my friends are there in blackout ro :) i am willing to help the server too if they want too hehe .. :D thats all i want to say..

Quote from: pr3zs on Mar 20, 2010, 11:46 PM

i dont like the gm there who is gm anxiety.. he doesnt know how to handle and be friends with the players. he is like the boss. he do what ever he wants. its unfair to ban players in the forum chat room. for just saying " i hope anxiety realizes that i really want to play to his server". then after saying that in the forum chat room -.- he banned me..

thats so...pissing me off.. but anyways... i dont like that gm..


I think I just vomitted up a little bit.

Yeah, definitely losing control of bodily functions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

EDIT: Damn thing won't let me embedded youtube videos even though we have the damn Youtube button :|

EDIT 2: I've found a picture that's more suitable to express my discontent.

Spoiler
(http://www.[url=http://google.com%5Dchosenro.com%5B/url%5D/images/1269167006774.gif)
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Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 21, 2010, 04:41 PM
LOL GorthexTiger XD. Nice image by the way xD.

Goes to show you that the GM corruption/friendliness still didn't change much from before. See, even a new player doesn't like GM Anxiety as much, and his actions/attitude are pretty similar to what the starter of this thread stated.
Well, a new review will probably be posted anyways.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 21, 2010, 05:15 PM
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 21, 2010, 04:41 PM
LOL GorthexTiger XD. Nice image by the way xD.

Goes to show you that the GM corruption/friendliness still didn't change much from before. See, even a new player doesn't like GM Anxiety as much, and his actions/attitude are pretty similar to what the starter of this thread stated.
Well, a new review will probably be posted anyways.
a) There is no "forum chat room," and b) people who post about bans in the regular forums (which is against the rules, by the way) are just asking for a ban. There is a specific place on the forums to handle ban inquiries, called the Ticket System, and anything outside of that is a modable offense. If he's talking about IRC, asking for GMs or about bans is also a modable/bannable offense there as well. There is some leniency with new players on the forums, but if he got banned, chances are he spammed topics and/or posts after having been warned.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 21, 2010, 07:17 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 21, 2010, 05:15 PM
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 21, 2010, 04:41 PM
LOL GorthexTiger XD. Nice image by the way xD.

Goes to show you that the GM corruption/friendliness still didn't change much from before. See, even a new player doesn't like GM Anxiety as much, and his actions/attitude are pretty similar to what the starter of this thread stated.
Well, a new review will probably be posted anyways.
a) There is no "forum chat room," and b) people who post about bans in the regular forums (which is against the rules, by the way) are just asking for a ban. There is a specific place on the forums to handle ban inquiries, called the Ticket System, and anything outside of that is a modable offense. If he's talking about IRC, asking for GMs or about bans is also a modable/bannable offense there as well. There is some leniency with new players on the forums, but if he got banned, chances are he spammed topics and/or posts after having been warned.

Hi, you left your pom-poms in the hall. Please don't forget them, you've got to perform at the big Homecoming Game later tonight and by golly, those boys need you!
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 21, 2010, 08:03 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Mar 21, 2010, 07:17 PM
Hi, you left your pom-poms in the hall. Please don't forget them, you've got to perform at the big Homecoming Game later tonight and by golly, those boys need you!

I would apologize if my response wasn't objective, but it is objective. I am merely explaining the rules process that BlackoutRO observes. If you view that as cheerleading, then any list of rules displayed on any server or explained by any server member must be grandstanding. I don't quite understand your hostility, and would appreciate it if you explained why you (apparently) believe I deserve it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 21, 2010, 09:25 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 21, 2010, 08:03 PM
I would apologize if my response wasn't objective, but it is objective. I am merely explaining the rules process that BlackoutRO observes. If you view that as cheerleading, then any list of rules displayed on any server or explained by any server member must be grandstanding. I don't quite understand your hostility, and would appreciate it if you explained why you (apparently) believe I deserve it. Thanks.

Wow, I'm impressed. You nailed the cheerleading reference faster than most. Kudos.

There's no hostility. Just simply pointing something out. There are things being posted about the server that you're practically bending over backwards to negate things that are pointing to the same source: You've got a bunch of jerks and even a new player is pointing out things the OP has stated(though most of the OP's statements seem more like a massive case of butthurt).

Also, I just wanted to let you know that your pom-poms were left outside of class. :( I'd hate for the Varsity Football Team to lose the big game, you know. I've got money on it.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 21, 2010, 10:42 PM
At Zarsheiy: Pretty harsh rules there... but I guess I can't say anything more about the rules. However, couldn't the GM just redirect the person to the specific place about bans instead of banning the person right off? I don't think his comment was that bad anyways for a direct ban. Maybe we have to ask the person, but it seems like he didn't get warned at all. I'll wait for a reply on this?
I agree with most of Temjin's second post.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 21, 2010, 11:44 PM
lol @ zarsheiy ...

im just asking in the irc channel and i wasn't spamming or got warned lolz..
i was asking that gm anxiety( irresponsible) if he realizes that i am waiting for him.
i dont know who just banned my ip  in that blackoutro server. i just installed that server for nothing lolz i havent even logged in lolz .. but anyways nice attitude @ anxiety lolz.. he looks like a kiddo or something .
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 22, 2010, 01:02 AM
There you have it XD. The victim/witness has typed.
Anyways, I just hope BlackOutRO will have things resolved soon.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 22, 2010, 11:38 AM
they cannot solve it. lolz
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Turok on Mar 22, 2010, 12:47 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Mar 20, 2010, 12:25 PM
Reading this thread, I'm pretty confident that I would actually put money up as a bet that Turok probably got his teeth kicked in while in PvP, is angry about it, and like 90% of other RO players, is blaming the server instead of his own shortcomings.
Actually bad assumption my friend... rofl tell the truth my basically noob HP did some good donkey kicking lol but still the server fails for the FACT the GM's here just dont seem to be good GM's... and when it comes to GMing i do happen to know how GM's should treat a player I also know just how a GM can get bombarded at times, but this just wasnt the case here sadly...
Posted on: Mar 22, 2010, 04:40 am
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 21, 2010, 10:42 PM
At Zarsheiy: Pretty harsh rules there... but I guess I can't say anything more about the rules. However, couldn't the GM just redirect the person to the specific place about bans instead of banning the person right off? I don't think his comment was that bad anyways for a direct ban. Maybe we have to ask the person, but it seems like he didn't get warned at all. I'll wait for a reply on this?
I agree with most of Temjin's second post.
Right on Yukino (This is the PROPER ATTTITUDE that any GM should have...)
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 03:18 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Mar 21, 2010, 09:25 PM
Wow, I'm impressed. You nailed the cheerleading reference faster than most. Kudos.

There's no hostility. Just simply pointing something out. There are things being posted about the server that you're practically bending over backwards to negate things that are pointing to the same source: You've got a bunch of jerks and even a new player is pointing out things the OP has stated(though most of the OP's statements seem more like a massive case of butthurt).

Also, I just wanted to let you know that your pom-poms were left outside of class. :( I'd hate for the Varsity Football Team to lose the big game, you know. I've got money on it.

It's not so much "bending over backwards" to defend the server than bending over backwards trying to get Turok to post proof of what he's been saying this entire time. If he's not going to offer it or doesn't even have it in the first place, then I don't see why people are giving him credit for his comments.

If there's corruption on a server I play, I want to know about it so I don't fall prey to or continue to support it. But if there isn't, and somebody's just blowing smoke, why should that be an occasion for concern about the server? I don't want to be misled by the server staff or the people with a vendetta against the server, especially when nobody's offering any proof either way.

Say what you want about Blackout (and I have to say once again that just because I defend the server doesn't mean I agree with everything it stands for), but if he's posting to incite others against any server without offering proof as to why such hatred is deserved, then why is he still getting credit from users (not necessarily you, mind) and evoking responses from them?

Then again, if he's been muted, there's really no point in me continuing to ask him from proof--I doubt I'll get any before all this eventually dies down. :/

Edit:
You know what, just forget it. I can see by my karma that supporting a server and trying to get to the truth of the matter while avoiding contributing to drama is frowned on here, and I'd rather not be part of a community that can't appreciate people who do support something they love (I'm sorry, I mean "cheerlead").
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 22, 2010, 04:34 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 03:18 PM
Edit:
You know what, just forget it. I can see by my karma that supporting a server and trying to get to the truth of the matter while avoiding contributing to drama is frowned on here, and I'd rather not be part of a community that can't appreciate people who do support something they love (I'm sorry, I mean "cheerlead").

Theeeere you go. It'll be okay.

Welcome to RMS.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Mar 22, 2010, 04:34 PM
Theeeere you go. It'll be okay.

Welcome to RMS.

Can we just drop the moral superiority complex? I was only reacting to what you posted earlier that, once again, I in no way deserved. And then you continued to belittle me. You also might want to be careful with your insults next time, too, as those cheerleader quips could be construed as borderline sexist.

It really disgusts me to see people preemptively judging me just because they don't like the server I'm posting about. I've already stated before on RMS that I really have no problem with somebody expressing a negative opinion, but doing so in an accusatory manner without anything to back it up is something else entirely. I would say that about any other server I have or haven't played. I spent an entire topic trying to help Turok solve his bRO issue and find out if the corruption he was speaking about had anything solid to it (http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/rant-and-rave/blackoutro/0/). Then I come back to RMS later to see if anything else had been offered, and I see him bumping up months-, even a years-old topic that doesn't even apply to bRO anymore after the corruption purges and updates.

He tells people that bRO has Ahuras floating around as donation items, and people believe him without any proof being offered, saying, "Oh, well, that's just how bRO is." Isn't RMS the capital of the "proof or gtfo" nation? And then when I offer proof of no Ahuras being anywhere near the donation list (http://img97.imageshack.us/g/donations4.png/), I still get both the whole "Oh, well, it's still corrupt, I heard it from a friend so I would know" spiel and then Turok replying with the exact same thing--"What happened was something a friend told me about"--in addition to not even having done research about the server beforehand; the individual who kicked him from IRC is a forum/IRC mod, not a GM, and he was well within his rights to kick somebody (as detailed in the link in the previous paragraph).

Then when pr3zs posted, I explained the rules in place (which, by the way, are right in front of you whenever you open the Blackout client, log onto the forums, and enter IRC through Mibbit or an m/IRC client) which led to his ban from IRC (which is in no way permanent, the ban logs are cleared regularly--he could have very easily returned the next day if he had put any effort into his case). Then I get called a "cheerleader." Is it that difficult to understand why I'd be a little testy? If I can't help solve issues that may or may not be related to server corruption, or let people know why such-and-such thing has happened when they raise the issue, why should I even post?

I'm not going to demand an apology, because I'm not a child. But I still stand by my responses in these and other threads, and I would assume that I would at least be recognized for my attempts to help instead of "Oh god, she plays a terrible server!"

And it seems that Turok got what was coming to him anyway, so I don't especially care one way or the other.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 22, 2010, 07:44 PM
well i am still banned in that server even though i didnt do anything wrong lolz.but its ok :)
i understand making mistake is not the reason to be banned lolz .. and thanks for me for downloadng your server which is blackoutro for nothing. i just wasted my time lolz.. anyways .. :)
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Tom~ on Mar 22, 2010, 07:53 PM
I had that problem before. You must patch/re-download, + you need kRO and Rag_RE.
It doesn't mean that you're banned.

Now, if you play on a... how do you guys call it? "Computer shop"? Maybe someone from there got banned before.

Either way, it's not the GM's fault.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 22, 2010, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 07:27 PM
words and an accusation of sexism

I thought you were leaving. Why are you still here.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 09:38 PM
Quote from: Temjin on Mar 22, 2010, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 07:27 PM
words and an accusation of sexism

I thought you were leaving. Why are you still here.

Because I respect myself too much to not stand up for myself.

Plus, I realized I was acting like a loon and didn't want to turn into one of the ragequitters I hate so much.

And I wasn't accusing you of anything, I was just warning you that comments like those can be misconstrued. I have nothing personal against you.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Yukino on Mar 22, 2010, 10:06 PM
Well, Zarsheiy, I didn't mean to hold any grudge against you or anything. I may be questioning about how the server does things, but that's another story/issue.
There are always posts like these on RMS XD. It's just hard to defend both sides for no side provided screenshots to disprove each other, but meh.

Anyways, I think once people are banned anyways (even if it's not permanent), why would they go back anyways? They were badly treated right off... I would have left and not bothered trying again, but that might be just me. Maybe the GM could have/should have directed them to read the rules first before just banning them? I mean, it's like saying "go check RMS for the monster details." At least that's better than "Why should I help you? Shouldn't you know this anyways?" that kind of thing. (I would be nice enough to help them in detail anyways, but that's me.) That's how I'm interpreting this anyways. BlackOutRO has many people, so it's not a completely bad server. Heard about the whole unbalanced donation system and such, but I won't question more about it. Each server has its own flaw, and this server's perhaps... is about friendliness and the GMs of the server (one in particular anyways).

At Tom~: I think it's just about how he's treated on IRC as well. Maybe he got banned... rudely? Don't know the real conversation between the two unless logs can be provided. It didn't sound like it was pleasant from the responding side... so, yeah. Disappointment here, disappointment there ><.

Once again, a new review for BlackOutRO would be nice, but we just got to wait for it XD. Maybe it'll disprove/approve what these two upset posters have been posting about.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Zarsheiy on Mar 22, 2010, 11:12 PM
Quote from: Yukino on Mar 22, 2010, 10:06 PM
Anyways, I think once people are banned anyways (even if it's not permanent), why would they go back anyways? They were badly treated right off... I would have left and not bothered trying again, but that might be just me. Maybe the GM could have/should have directed them to read the rules first before just banning them? I mean, it's like saying "go check RMS for the monster details." At least that's better than "Why should I help you? Shouldn't you know this anyways?" that kind of thing. (I would be nice enough to help them in detail anyways, but that's me.) That's how I'm interpreting this anyways. BlackOutRO has many people, so it's not a completely bad server. Heard about the whole unbalanced donation system and such, but I won't question more about it. Each server has its own flaw, and this server's perhaps... is about friendliness and the GMs of the server (one in particular anyways).

I agree wholeheartedly. The difficulty with staffing such a large server, however, is that it takes a truly one-of-a-kind person to not get jaded after a while and view all cases in the same way. That's less a justification for their (and, I'll freely admit on more than a few occasions, my) actions than just a very unfortunate reality. I wish everybody who worked for any server could keep that helpful demeanor throughout their time there, but... time often isn't very forgiving.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 22, 2010, 11:45 PM
Quote from: pr3zs on Mar 22, 2010, 07:44 PM
well i am still banned in that server even though i didnt do anything wrong lolz.but its ok :)
i understand making mistake is not the reason to be banned lolz .. and thanks for me for downloadng your server which is blackoutro for nothing. i just wasted my time lolz.. anyways .. :)

QQ more?
Post even a screenshot of you being of you being wrongfully banned (irc, client screenie, and monitor screenie) or else all that you are saying are piles and piles of useless lies

@offtopic
on a sidenote, still can't logon it even with the lite installer, keeps saying need kro+re even though i got re already
trying the full install for now
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Tom~ on Mar 23, 2010, 05:57 AM
"[ Welcome to the official Blackout RO IRC Channel ][ Server Status: Online! ][ Please idle, and vote for us ] [ Rates: 5k Base/9k Jobs/10% Cards ] [ Site: http://blackout-gaming.net/] If you have a question, ASK and WAIT for an answer. Asking to ask = BAN |  PM OPs and receive a Ban. Ask for GM and ban. NO MORE PRICE CHECKING!"

He probably broke one of those rules.

Once again, it's not the GM's fault.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: Temjin on Mar 23, 2010, 08:51 AM
Quote from: Tom~ on Mar 23, 2010, 05:57 AM
"[ Welcome to the official Blackout RO IRC Channel ][ Server Status: Online! ][ Please idle, and vote for us ] [ Rates: 5k Base/9k Jobs/10% Cards ] [ Site: http://blackout-gaming.net/] If you have a question, ASK and WAIT for an answer. Asking to ask = BAN |  PM OPs and receive a Ban. Ask for GM and ban. NO MORE PRICE CHECKING!"

Yeah, I like going to help desks and not looking for help, myself.
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: pr3zs on Mar 24, 2010, 02:16 AM
Quote from: The Rape on Mar 22, 2010, 11:45 PM
Quote from: pr3zs on Mar 22, 2010, 07:44 PM
well i am still banned in that server even though i didnt do anything wrong lolz.but its ok :)
i understand making mistake is not the reason to be banned lolz .. and thanks for me for downloadng your server which is blackoutro for nothing. i just wasted my time lolz.. anyways .. :)

QQ more?
Post even a screenshot of you being of you being wrongfully banned (irc, client screenie, and monitor screenie) or else all that you are saying are piles and piles of useless lies

@offtopic
on a sidenote, still can't logon it even with the lite installer, keeps saying need kro+re even though i got re already
trying the full install for now



how can i post any screenshot ? if i didnt have a chance to play even to login and make a character ? lols...
and at irc chat room ... why did they put a chatroom if they will not answer our questions ( as a player)
that anxiety is like a boss :)) lolz he uses those badwords lolz. ( i cant tell)
but anyways its ok :) ill stop now talking to those kiddo :D

have fun to your server :))

lolz
Title: Re: Blackout Ragnarok Online
Post by: The Rape on Mar 24, 2010, 04:03 AM
Quote from: pr3zs on Mar 24, 2010, 02:16 AM
how can i post any screenshot ? if i didnt have a chance to play even to login and make a character ? lols...
and at irc chat room ... why did they put a chatroom if they will not answer our questions ( as a player)
that anxiety is like a boss :)) lolz he uses those badwords lolz. ( i cant tell)
but anyways its ok :) ill stop now talking to those kiddo :D

have fun to your server :))

lolz

You made me lol
1 There's a thing called Server Forums, read, post, ask there! It's good stuff!
2 IRC Rules, Read it or Beat it, simple as that
3 You say you never got on the server and yet act like you know Anxiety so well based on your mistakes, your reaction, your fault, get over it and move on
4 Good Luck and have fun finding a new RO mate!