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Server's Stability
Stability - 5/10
Availability - 5/10

The server goes down every once in a while for some reason, which is unexplained by most of the GM team. Today, December 6, he admin decided to shut down the server for 1 whole day because the "whole" team is purportedly gonna work on bug fixes etc. What I do not understand though is the fact that they could just do all the coding and compiling and then have like a 5-10 minute server shutdown to apply the changes.

This made me scratch my head. Is there some really big exploit that the admin team overlooked, so big that they had to shut it down for 1 whole day?


Community
Friendliness - 9/10
Eventfulness - 6/10

The community is a bunch of very nice people. No complaints about that. I found a guild who invited me right away and most of the other guilds are really nice people. Amen to that.

I have only experienced 1 event and that was a PvP event which I thought was a crazy idea as most people are still new so PvP gear is hard to come by. Whats crazier is that skills were disabled during that event,so, good luck wizzies.

Game Masters
Friendliness - 10/10
Availability - 10/10
Helpfulness - 1/10 ( and yes, it IS a 1)

Here is what happened:

1. As soon as I came to the server there were like 4 GMs in Prontera, playing about. They're very friendly and all, but are very clueless about RO mechanics and quite unprofessional.

I asked them: Is rachel sanc here fully paid?

GM 1: "I dont know."
GM 2: "Yeah I think so."
GM 3: *Too busy playing with his disguise.*
GM 4: "Wait for GM 5."
Me: "Oh, so none of you four knows, great."

GM Team goes back to frolicking all over the place.


2. Another crazy GM wore a Drooping Hat (I forgot what that was) which happens to be NOT in the sprite DB of Aria clients which made a bajillion people crash. Crazy.



Gameplay
Economy - 2/10
Guild Competition - 7/10
Class Balance - 7/10

No one is vending anything substantial as the server is very new. I expected that.

Guild Competition isnt really a big thing atm because most of the guilds are still gearing up and woe is not on yet.

Class Balance: Donates have very small boosts so they arent game-breaking. Drop rate is just fine.







Sidenote: The only thing that I see which is good about this server is that there are so many people playing it, but if the the GM team wont straighten up and do their jobs professionally, this server will just be another one of those that are thrown out of the window.

mickiedeez

Just my response to some of the things said.

Quote from: Annihilate on Dec 06, 2009, 03:09 AM

Server's Stability
Stability - 5/10
Availability - 5/10

The server goes down every once in a while for some reason, which is unexplained by most of the GM team. Today, December 6, he admin decided to shut down the server for 1 whole day because the "whole" team is purportedly gonna work on bug fixes etc. What I do not understand though is the fact that they could just do all the coding and compiling and then have like a 5-10 minute server shutdown to apply the changes.

This made me scratch my head. Is there some really big exploit that the admin team overlooked, so big that they had to shut it down for 1 whole day?
It usually goes down 1 hour every other night(<-USA time) for maintenance. Server host is in USA, perhaps your location is the cause for the 5/10 stability, as I do not experience very much lag at all. The Sunday maintenance was announced early in the week, and since Che, kemui, and Bonedaddy seem to have the day off, I think theyre devoting the day to going through and finding all the bugs, taking all suggestions in to consideration, and scripting.  Kemui said what he had been scripting through out the week, we would love.  The forum is changing as well I believe. If this all day maintenance fixes many of the problems, and implements new thigns we would love, then I welcome it with open arms.

Community
Friendliness - 9/10
Eventfulness - 6/10

The community is a bunch of very nice people. No complaints about that. I found a guild who invited me right away and most of the other guilds are really nice people. Amen to that.

I have only experienced 1 event and that was a PvP event which I thought was a crazy idea as most people are still new so PvP gear is hard to come by. Whats crazier is that skills were disabled during that event,so, good luck wizzies.

I agree, the pvp event was a crazy idea. What is worse is due to GvG being toggled on, my guild could not kill each other. Somehow they corrected this, but I had already left back to prontera.

Game Masters
Friendliness - 10/10
Availability - 10/10
Helpfulness - 1/10 ( and yes, it IS a 1)

Here is what happened:

1. As soon as I came to the server there were like 4 GMs in Prontera, playing about. They're very friendly and all, but are very clueless about RO mechanics and quite unprofessional.

I asked them: Is rachel sanc here fully paid?

GM 1: "I dont know."
GM 2: "Yeah I think so."
GM 3: *Too busy playing with his disguise.*
GM 4: "Wait for GM 5."
Me: "Oh, so none of you four knows, great."

GM Team goes back to frolicking all over the place.

I agree some of the GM team could could be a bit more professional. Che and kemui seem to be pretty pro however.

2. Another crazy GM wore a Drooping Hat (I forgot what that was) which happens to be NOT in the sprite DB of Aria clients which made a bajillion people crash. Crazy.

That is due to the updated .grf not included in the lite installer, and I assume it is on the list for today's fixes. There are, however, threads on the forums addressing the issue, including a .grf to download and paste over the old one in your Aria folder.

Gameplay
Economy - 2/10 Personally, I think the economy is very good. There were thrirty something vendors last night, selling alot of different stuff, and I found a few cards i had been farming but was unable to obtain, and bought them.  Reasonable prices in my opinion as well, but to each their own i suppose.
Guild Competition - 7/10
Class Balance - 7/10

No one is vending anything substantial as the server is very new. I expected that. I find wools, tidals, pvp/woe cards, MVP drops, and various 

Guild Competition isnt really a big thing atm because most of the guilds are still gearing up and woe is not on yet.

Class Balance: Donates have very small boosts so they arent game-breaking. Drop rate is just fine. I wouldn't be caught dead in WoE with any of those donates, but for PvM and PvP they're alright.







Sidenote: The only thing that I see which is good about this server is that there are so many people playing it, but if the the GM team wont straighten up and do their jobs professionally, this server will just be another one of those that are thrown out of the window. I disagree on that being the only good thing, btu i do agree on the GM team.  The unprofessional behavior should be adressed, be for it escalates to abuse, arrogance, corruption, or another characteristic of many of 'those' servers.
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

Annihilate

server went down again today 

Rapist

Yes.Just logged in and saw server down

Life is a great big canvas, and you should throw all the paint you can on it

mickiedeez

I think someone is still trying to hack us, I know in the first few days server crashed because of attempted hackings
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

Zone

Obviously, you pissed someone off or annoyed someone to the point where they wanted to hack your server.

mickiedeez

personally if it is hackers I think it's maybe competition. We had 105 legit individuals playing within first 15 minutes of opening, many leaving from other servers, and we'd be advertising for like 2-3weeks beforehand.
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

Zone

competition, no.
People have allegedly had 150+ players within the first 5 minutes of opening the server.
I still say that's bs, and no one that I saw on the server talked, just sat, walked around in circles, or I couldn't find.
Either way, they were attacked (I believe they were) sometime after they were up.
However, I'm pretty sure it's because they pissed someone off if they were.
You should contact your host if you think you are being hacked.

Annihilate

well just an honest observation:

there has been so much hype way before aria's opening and its quite unfortunate that the server, after that long period of advertising, still had so many bugs and is not secure against DDoS atks.

Zone

DDoS mitigation isn't cheap.
And I am sure a person using a private server will want to pay the monthly fee for that service unless it comes directly from donations.

Shinn

Hello,



That is all,
Cheers.

cause after all the drama, I still slain em.


Need a site done? contact me.

Annihilate

and just now GM Aeromas scripted a very buggy warper. Instead of reverting to the old warpers, he took warpers out altogether, effectively putting the server on a standstill.

GM's talks funny, as I quote: "Cant do anything bout your nigguh"

Legacy's GuildMaster Impulse was allegedly perma-banned by GM Apoc for saying "You are the worst GM ever". Although disrespectful, it is alarming to know that even low-level GM's have the @ban command. The funny thing is, GM Aeromas asked Impulse to raise his complaint in the forums,but he got forum-banned too. Wow.

Well, its funny as I was just there, with My AFKchemist and saw all the drama unfold. Its very entertaining.

Tom~

Quote from: Annihilate on Dec 09, 2009, 04:44 PM
Legacy's GuildMaster Impulse was allegedly perma-banned by GM Apoc for saying "You are the worst GM ever". Although disrespectful, it is alarming to know that even low-level GM's have the @ban command. The funny thing is, GM Aeromas asked Impulse to raise his complaint in the forums,but he got forum-banned too. Wow.

He got banned because he threatened Apocalyptica.

And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

Annihilate

Quote from: Tom~ on Dec 09, 2009, 04:54 PM
Quote from: Annihilate on Dec 09, 2009, 04:44 PM
Legacy's GuildMaster Impulse was allegedly perma-banned by GM Apoc for saying "You are the worst GM ever". Although disrespectful, it is alarming to know that even low-level GM's have the @ban command. The funny thing is, GM Aeromas asked Impulse to raise his complaint in the forums,but he got forum-banned too. Wow.

He got banned because he threatened Apocalyptica.

whats interesting though is,who actually banned him?

Kurisu

He was completely disrespectful towards Che when the day-long maintenance started.

His guild was hunting an MvP, knowing there was a time constraint (I warned everyone 2 hours beforehand, and quite a few times after that), and got upset because Che didn't hold off the maintenance when they asked. Started to insult Che over vent (Even called Che corrupt and power-hungry?). I informed Che about this while it was happening, and I was asked to remove his posting rights from the forums. He kept making accounts in the forums, attempting to dodge his forum ban, and it got to where he started to insult me, for whatever reason, I don't know.

And I was eventually informed that he threatened to abuse a glitch if @refresh wasn't put back in.

He wasn't banned just for saying I'm "the worst GM ever", and I even talked to Che before I took any action.

Shadowfax

I joined recently and it is actually a good server.

There are a couple of trolls, most coming from that guild in which that "player" was banned. I don't really know much about the situation or the people involved, but I think the GMs decisions are for the best. It's fun when trolls QQ after having some of their own medicine back at them. It's just no good drama, really.

This is a fun server with friendly people, so I suggest it. :D


Tom~

Quote from: mickiedeez on Dec 09, 2009, 05:26 PM
Quote from: Tom~ on Dec 09, 2009, 04:54 PM
He got banned because he threatened Apocalyptica.
No one threatened or accused Che of being corrupt or power hungry.
Hm.

I have been told this by more than one person.
Yeah, maybe he got banned right after calling Caly bad GM. Buuut, thats not the first thing he does, as Caly already said.


And so you killed yourself,
but you killed everyone else around you too.

.::Eni::.

alright i was going to stay out of this, since i really don't like all the drama.. but this is starting to get annoying.

First of all a little correction:

QuoteAnnihilate:
Legacy's GuildMaster Impulse was allegedly perma-banned by GM Apoc for saying "You are the worst GM ever".

The person who got banned was Excessive, not Impulse. They're both our GL, however Impulse has the ingame title.
Again.. the person who was really banned, even though we call it our GL, was excessive. Don't confuse things.

QuoteTom~
He got banned because he threatened Apocalyptica.

He didn't threatened anyone. If the GM is to sensible that it can't take any critics then she shouldn't be a GM in the first place. He did a comment on how bad a gm she was and she should "lighten up" (not on those words..) and he got banned for it.

QuoteKurisu
He was completely disrespectful towards Che when the day-long maintenance started.

His guild was hunting an MvP, knowing there was a time constraint (I warned everyone 2 hours beforehand, and quite a few times after that), and got upset because Che didn't hold off the maintenance when they asked. Started to insult Che over vent (Even called Che corrupt and power-hungry?). I informed Che about this while it was happening, and I was asked to remove his posting rights from the forums. He kept making accounts in the forums, attempting to dodge his forum ban, and it got to where he started to insult me, for whatever reason, I don't know.

And I was eventually informed that he threatened to abuse a glitch if @refresh wasn't put back in.

He wasn't banned just for saying I'm "the worst GM ever", and I even talked to Che before I took any action.

If he was disrespectful towards Che how come she wasn't the one banning him? If they really said anything bad to her over vent, she should be the one taking actions, since she is higher then you are. However you were the one who "took action". Why? Could it be that the things that were said on vent were not that offensive anyway, and the only offensive he actually did was towards you?

About the vent thing, yes everyone was upset but that doesn't mean they threatened anyone. What would they do? Enter the computer and pursue you with an axe? Gimme a break. And about the glitch thing.. learn your facts better hun, or be careful with your sources. He was actually trying to warn you guys about that glitch.

The thing is.. GMs are not supposed to abuse power like that. If you're to ban someone at least ban it because he hacked the server, not because you're a kid who let's the power go to your head. All i see from you is a GM who doesn't give a dam about player's questions, unprofessional and who shouldn't even be a GM anyway. Grow up, learn how to deal with people and then come back. Even if what you said was true, which isn't, banning a person just because of that? seriously? what happened to the fair server? A person is allowed to speak their mind, and has the right to be notified if they're getting banned or not.

As for all the drama, enough is enough. Gms said they were going to talk this through and give a decision.

Silverbaine

Rules must be enforced regardless what people think, be disrespectful t a gm expect to get punished, if you dont like that, then learn how to be respectful, dont go acting like some punk brat who doest get his way, run crying tossing temper tantrums saying you gonna run away... wow immaturity to the fullest?

so what server didnt stay open just so you could finish your mvp kill... we all was given same amount of warning time, because someone did not take proper preparations, does not give them the exscuse or privilige to disrespect gms,(not saying gms are always right just because they are a gm as they are people too, but its been recognized by who needs to recognize it i am sure) now how bout we stop all this drama, and let the gms do their jobs? any complaints i am sure has now been noted by the proper authorities, so let it be and stop the flaming? no need to call each other trolls or whatnot, as we all people,

"CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"

ps legacy if you feel the need to quit becuase your leader got banned for breaching rules... well that is kinda... weak... no offense but i am sure you could survive....
Xarale ~ As others have said, I do believe this topic is done now.  Therfore I shall be closing it, because I'm sexy.

Green

I've lost count of how many different versions of the story are in this thread.

orix1357

mickie, you perfectly know that you can't pass over the Diablos Sets you got from here to another server, right? I can't accept those reasons you got there coz in the end, when you get to another server, you'll be starting off as a 1/1 Novice all over again.
Has played in: aeRO, heRO, OracleRO, ReboundRO, AriaRO, IntenseRO, VastRO, LuminaRO, AerialRO, NyuubiRO and PumpkinRO.

Zone

Quote from: orix1357 on Dec 09, 2009, 11:00 PM
mickie, you perfectly know that you can't pass over the Diablos Sets you got from here to another server, right? I can't accept those reasons you got there coz in the end, when you get to another server, you'll be starting off as a 1/1 Novice all over again.
Duh, I think anyone who understands what private servers are would know that.
I'm pretty damn sure he knows he isn't going to keep any items from this server.

Final

Ok listen up, This is the last time it will be said.  If you don't like it leave, alright?  Not a single one of us besides you guys care.  Flame me all you want, We all know you are just a bunch of immature little kids. (Btw by flaming me, you just prove my point /gg)

This will end here.  If you have a problem, take it, write it down, and then burn that piece of paper.  That's what we all think of your problem.  I don't just speak for myself, I speak for a majority of players who are tired of this s*** you guys are causing.  People get banned all the time.  It's called, get used to it.  The server is not meant to be run by people who think they can just insult someone and then not suffer some sort of punishment.  Now I bet had you not made this into such a big problem, it would have just been a small temporary ban.  But no, You fought and fought and fought about it.  Look where it gets you.  Now please, Either leave our server or stay and play and have fun.  Why must you make it such a hassle for other players!

Now what is your decision guys? Stay and have fun with the rest of us, or leave?

- Final 

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GorthexTiger

Quote from: Final on Dec 10, 2009, 12:02 AM
Ok listen up, This is the last time it will be said.  If you don't like it leave, alright?  Not a single one of us besides you guys care.  Flame me all you want, We all know you are just a bunch of immature little kids. (Btw by flaming me, you just prove my point /gg)

This will end here.  If you have a problem, take it, write it down, and then burn that piece of paper.  That's what we all think of your problem.  I don't just speak for myself, I speak for a majority of players who are tired of this s*** you guys are causing.  People get banned all the time.  It's called, get used to it.  The server is not meant to be run by people who think they can just insult someone and then not suffer some sort of punishment.  Now I bet had you not made this into such a big problem, it would have just been a small temporary ban.  But no, You fought and fought and fought about it.  Look where it gets you.  Now please, Either leave our server or stay and play and have fun.  Why must you make it such a hassle for other players!

Now what is your decision guys? Stay and have fun with the rest of us, or leave?

- Final 

Way to try to back seat moderate! :P

I love derailed topics :P

I've heard at least 20 different stories: can someone keep some god damn transparency?

And great! 105 people within 15 minutes. Are you keeping and maintaining those numbers? From what I'm hearing, you're not.

And does anyone have any proof? My lulz-meter is quite low and I don't think I will be finding 'dem w/o it herez.
Read about the "Great Dramas" Part 1, Part 2, & Part 3


mickiedeez

#24
QuoteI've heard at least 20 different stories: can someone keep some god damn transparency?

  Before Sunday Ray(Legacy GL) and several others from legacy are banned from forums for cursing and not posting like kawaiitards(think Descent's non troll posts before he was a mod).

  On Sunday, an announcement was made about maintenance occuring in one hour. Legacy was in the process of luring a Bio Sniper mvp to a ledge for bombing. 50-55 minutes latersaying server will be going down in 5 minutes, Legacy was bombing Sniper.  1-2m minutes later announcement says server is going down, Sniper is almost dead legacy PMs Gms asking for 1 more minute. They are told no and server goes down. They storm vent and call Che(admin) and Apocalyptica(event GM, thinks is co admin but isnt, is butt hurt easily) names. Che doesn't seem to care, Apoc QQs. legacy gets over it.

On Monday or tuesday, and msn convo between Ray(legacy leader) and Apoc.  Ray cusses out Apoc over msn. Apoc QQs moar.  Ray is explaining to Aeromas(Co-admin, developer) the folly in completely removing @refresh, and how client side edits can produce the same effect as abusing @refresh. "Someone informs" Apoc that Ray was threatening to exploit @refresh bugs. Apoc QQs some moar. Aeromas lulz(<--speculation 50/50 chance of being correct)

  On tuesday night, on ventrilo the subject of Apoc is brought up. Ray proceeds to voice is opinion of her.  Apoc logs into vent just in time to here Ray ranting about her. Apoc contacts Che, presumably buttering up the story of how ray threatened the her and called her names. Che supposedly gives the okay to perma ban Ray.

  On Wednesday(today), everybody realizes and Legacy is pist.  Nothing was said or done ingame to constitute a ban, no member of legacy ever threatened anyone anywhere, and the only incidents of directed disrespect occured on MSN, and on ventrilo Sunday night, and no rules to constitute a permanent ban were broken. The crap in this thread starts, Apoc(Kurisu) replies, claiming things were said when they weren't(the accusations against Che), accused Ray of threatening the server(Aeromas knows this is infact false, he was at the other end of Rays explaining of @refresh), and claimed his forum rights were removed due to his disrespect on ventrilo(he was actually banned for using a curse word on forums).

  Later on Aeromas gets on and sorts it all out, he lifts the ban, deciding that what happens on forums stay on forums(i.e. curse in forums=ban on forums), what happens in game stays ingame(break in game rules, you're punished ingame), and what happens on smn stay on msn(I cuss you out on msn, too f*** bad).  He plans to change rules as well.

EDIT: As well on Wednesday multiple guilds felt WoE would be s*** if Legacy left, and agreed they would leave as well, and thus the server would have a significant less population.  Some legacy members said this, and it was taken as a threat to the server by misinterpreting morons. Multiple members of Legacy loled at this and then didn't care. The morons, however, are still QQing right now probably.

  Then people start accusing legacy of DDoS, we get lol @ them all, since all we've wanted to do is go ingame and further prepare for WoE sine all this s*** started, and the DDoSing has been happening since 2hours into server life.

QuoteAnd great! 105 people within 15 minutes. Are you keeping and maintaining those numbers? From what I'm hearing, you're not.

  Floated around there all day.  Was 60-90 through out the week. Peaked 129(with 14 vendors total) on Saturday before the Sunday maintenance. DDoSing has been more frequent but population seem to be hovering at 60-80ish(more if you count the vendors).

QuoteAnd does anyone have any proof? My lulz-meter is quite low and I don't think I will be finding 'dem w/o it herez.

No I suppose not, but since the ban was lifted all that really matters is Apocalyptica and her professionalism and ability as a GM, which we all(on Aria) know/feel is mediocre.

QuoteWay to try to back seat moderate!

+1




Anywho, I'll edit out the rest of my posts :x
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

GamePlay

Hm..Funny how I was there and like totally heard everything.  Interesting eh?  You guys need to learn your place.  And that's not at this server.  Voicing your opinion is fine, if and ONLY if you keep it clean.  In the end, The server isn't for you.  It's for the REAL admin to host and do with whatever they shall wish.  In the end, you no wait,  ALL of you, mean anything to the server and it's staff.  So get off your high horse and just leave already.  After all you kept threatening to saying something like, "If we leave this servers finished".  Think your so mighty with your guild?  Then prove it and leave and lets just see what happens then.  After all, If it's true, then I guess this server will close soon.  Btw, that little refresh command, was not alotted by Che.  Lil' Aeromas took it upon himself to do that.  The reason I know this is because I myself talk to Che.  I would assume her word is quite a bit more true than that useless GM team.

Now what are your comments to this?  Want to attack me?  Want to test your theory? (I'm really serious, I want to know what would happen if your guild left lol)

So?

mickiedeez

Quote from: GamePlay on Dec 10, 2009, 02:05 AM
Hm..Funny how I was there and like totally heard everything.  Interesting eh?  You guys need to learn your place.  And that's not at this server.  Voicing your opinion is fine, if and ONLY if you keep it clean.  In the end, The server isn't for you.  It's for the REAL admin to host and do with whatever they shall wish.  In the end, you no wait,  ALL of you, mean anything to the server and it's staff.  So get off your high horse and just leave already.  After all you kept threatening to saying something like, "If we leave this servers finished".  Think your so mighty with your guild?  Then prove it and leave and lets just see what happens then.  After all, If it's true, then I guess this server will close soon.  Btw, that little refresh command, was not alotted by Che.  Lil' Aeromas took it upon himself to do that.  The reason I know this is because I myself talk to Che.  I would assume her word is quite a bit more true than that useless GM team.

Now what are your comments to this?  Want to attack me?  Want to test your theory? (I'm really serious, I want to know what would happen if your guild left lol)

So?

  You take what was said out of context. It was never a threat. If legacy left, ShowNomercy and another of the big guilds(Forgot the name) would've left. German Fight club said they would stay for one woe and leave it it was a fail woe. Server would have been left with very small woe guilds and some large social guilds. If anything is was likely being used as a mocking statement by angry members. Either way it was/is true.

  You speak in a condescending manner as well. Some members of legacy may not be very polite, but we don't speak as if we are on a high horse or as if we are almighty and powerful. Perhaps you should shut the f*** up you hypocrite?

  And GG whoever the f*** is DDoSing server. Che is taking a break, and Aeromas is asleep. No more Aria till tomorrow.
Quote from: Temjin on Feb 16, 2010, 12:07 PM
You are a f*** idiot. Why you even bother to post here, I will never know. It is BEYOND ME.

Annihilate

Quote from: GamePlay on Dec 10, 2009, 02:05 AM
Hm..Funny how I was there and like totally heard everything.  Interesting eh?  You guys need to learn your place.  And that's not at this server.  Voicing your opinion is fine, if and ONLY if you keep it clean.  In the end, The server isn't for you.  It's for the REAL admin to host and do with whatever they shall wish.  In the end, you no wait,  ALL of you, mean anything to the server and it's staff.  So get off your high horse and just leave already.  After all you kept threatening to saying something like, "If we leave this servers finished".  Think your so mighty with your guild?  Then prove it and leave and lets just see what happens then.  After all, If it's true, then I guess this server will close soon.  Btw, that little refresh command, was not alotted by Che.  Lil' Aeromas took it upon himself to do that.  The reason I know this is because I myself talk to Che.  I would assume her word is quite a bit more true than that useless GM team.

Now what are your comments to this?  Want to attack me?  Want to test your theory? (I'm really serious, I want to know what would happen if your guild left lol)

So?


Stay on topic, this is a server review, and hence should be about Aria and its Admin, not about legacy or whoever you were QQing.

GamePlay

Quote from: mickiedeez on Dec 10, 2009, 02:25 AM
Quote from: GamePlay on Dec 10, 2009, 02:05 AM
Hm..Funny how I was there and like totally heard everything.  Interesting eh?  You guys need to learn your place.  And that's not at this server.  Voicing your opinion is fine, if and ONLY if you keep it clean.  In the end, The server isn't for you.  It's for the REAL admin to host and do with whatever they shall wish.  In the end, you no wait,  ALL of you, mean anything to the server and it's staff.  So get off your high horse and just leave already.  After all you kept threatening to saying something like, "If we leave this servers finished".  Think your so mighty with your guild?  Then prove it and leave and lets just see what happens then.  After all, If it's true, then I guess this server will close soon.  Btw, that little refresh command, was not alotted by Che.  Lil' Aeromas took it upon himself to do that.  The reason I know this is because I myself talk to Che.  I would assume her word is quite a bit more true than that useless GM team.

Now what are your comments to this?  Want to attack me?  Want to test your theory? (I'm really serious, I want to know what would happen if your guild left lol)

So?

 You take what was said out of context. It was never a threat. If legacy left, ShowNomercy and another of the big guilds(Forgot the name) would've left. German Fight club said they would stay for one woe and leave it it was a fail woe. Server would have been left with very small woe guilds and some large social guilds. If anything is was likely being used as a mocking statement by angry members. Either way it was/is true.

 You speak in a condescending manner as well. Some members of legacy may not be very polite, but we don't speak as if we are on a high horse or as if we are almighty and powerful. Perhaps you should shut the f*** up you hypocrite?

 And GG whoever the f*** is DDoSing server. Che is taking a break, and Aeromas is asleep. No more Aria till tomorrow.
Ah yes well, There are a few of you who are actually somewhat nice.  I should have been more specific about that.  Either way, the majority of you have stated things like what I quoted.  Albeit, guilds leave when competition dies.  The reason why people think you guys think you are all mighty and such is because of your statements about the server dieing if you all left.  That can clearly be seen in that way.  So how am I a hypocrite?  Mind explaining?
As for that DDoSing s***..Well it's to bad..Kinda sad that people think it's ok to do it but oh well...Nothing we can do I guess...

response?


EDIT: Annihilate is right, Let's keep this topic more on-topic rather than all the crap that has been stirred up.

Annihilate

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Gameplay, I forgot to point out that even if Aria's Admin has the prima facie right to do whatever they want with Aria, he players are still entitled to have a considerable voice on what and how changes are implemented. If it werent so, then there should be no hall of shame section in RMS.

Leaving right away will never be an option for that guild because they have something at stake here : All the time that they spent will go to waste.

I guess you know what that means.


Well, so far, just to recap: Apoc still has to answer on allegations that he/she/it is too immature for comfort. I am hoping for an answer. And since Apoc was the one who made accusations of bad conduct on the part of Ray, then I suppose he can post screenies, right? As far as I know, no proof or whatever was put up in AriaRO and so probably, Che[head Admin] just took his/her/its word for it.

GamePlay

Quote from: Annihilate on Dec 10, 2009, 02:42 AM
Gameplay, I forgot to point out that even if Aria's Admin has the prima facie right to do whatever they want with Aria, he players are still entitled to have a considerable voice on what and how changes are implemented. If it werent so, then there should be no hall of shame section in RMS.

Leaving right away will never be an option for that guild because they have something at stake here : All the time that they spent will go to waste.

I guess you know what that means..
You are right, but an admin does not need to care.  Albeit, it is highly recommended that they do or they usually end up in the hall of shame.  Thing is, they pay for it, and we visit...I mean a lot of server owners wanna have the best server out there so they listen to the players, but it's not always going to happen....

Now why you going and bringing in the past?  What the hell does that have to do with this?  And as I recall, You liked that one very much when I attempted to call luTze out on that.

Final

Quote from: Annihilate on Dec 10, 2009, 02:42 AM

Well, so far, just to recap: Apoc still has to answer on allegations that he/she/it is too immature for comfort. I am hoping for an answer. And since Apoc was the one who made accusations of bad conduct on the part of Ray, then I suppose he can post screenies, right? As far as I know, no proof or whatever was put up in AriaRO and so probably, Che[head Admin] just took his/her/its word for it.
Most server admins like to believe staff over players no matter the outcome.  Hence why you get the "Proof or it didn't happen" quote a lot rofl...

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Some things hanging around on my mind.

> I really wonder what's the point of the one DDoS'ing a completely new server.

> I can blame some members of Legacy for QQ'ing when they missed the chance to kill Sniper Cecil, can I? It's announced that server's gonna be off for a while.

> I agree with the "What is out of the game, stays out of the game" principle. Although it doesn't protect some other players who outright trashtalk the GMs.

> I think I'll stay at Aria until it finally sinks. I usually stay on a server until it shuts down. I've been doing it for 3 servers already (aeRO, Oracle and Rebound).
Has played in: aeRO, heRO, OracleRO, ReboundRO, AriaRO, IntenseRO, VastRO, LuminaRO, AerialRO, NyuubiRO and PumpkinRO.

Annihilate

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OFFtopic:

Quote from: GamePlay on Dec 10, 2009, 02:50 AM

You are right, but an admin does not need to care.  Albeit, it is highly recommended that they do or they usually end up in the hall of shame.  Thing is, they pay for it, and we visit...I mean a lot of server owners wanna have the best server out there so they listen to the players, but it's not always going to happen....

Now why you going and bringing in the past?  What the hell does that have to do with this?  And as I recall, You liked that one very much when I attempted to call luTze out on that.

Dude, I helped to bring it down, if thats what you mean by calling it out.

Quote from: Final on Dec 10, 2009, 02:53 AM
Most server admins like to believe staff over players no matter the outcome.  Hence why you get the "Proof or it didn't happen" quote a lot rofl...

Yeah, but considering that they got most of their people from the hype they made in RMS in the past couple of months, I think it will be wiser for them to do so. It is true that Admin believes staff over playersmost of the time, that's why there are very few decent servers around


ONtopic:

Aria is DOWN again. DDoS sh*t again probably.


P.S. and no I am a math major, I dont know that programming s*** to DDoS-w/e AriaRO.

Rapist

Ya..
by the way what is DDos attack?



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Relics

This has derailed beyond belief, I think anyone that has an issue regarding AriaRO can take it elsewhere. Off-topic, shame, if you believe you've got something that belongs there.. go for it. But it's done for this topic.

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