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Title: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 10, 2008, 10:08 PM
So, I just rated AnthemRO here (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=3192&itv=6&url_sname=AnthemRO), but it wasn't enough space to write in =P

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I am not a GM, subGM, or PR. I am just a regular player who has been in AnthemRO since day one. I been playing Ragnarok for almost three years now, and been on many servers, but this is the best server I played in by far. Contrary to all rumors, AnthemRO is stable and won't be dying out anytime soon. If you like WoE competition, come check us out. If any AnthemRO player reads this, come post your views on the server or just say hi =P
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Kasumi on Nov 11, 2008, 01:12 AM
1k+ people = small server? since when!
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: GM-Ymir on Nov 11, 2008, 06:28 AM
I get this sense that since he says he's not a GM etc he's a friend of one of them. Because I played AnthemRO for a short while, and the lag was horrible. Even in the AnimaRO days the lag was absolutely unbearable.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 11, 2008, 08:21 AM
Quote from: Kasumi on Nov 11, 2008, 01:12 AM
1k+ people = small server? since when!

I haven't seen over 1k people on aRO in ages o_O Hell when I wrote this their was barely 500 on. A server with a trillion accounts don't mean anything if only 2 people sign on, or is this logic flawed? =P

@GM-Ymir: Please keep your comments to yourself. If you go and check AnthemRO ratings, I did not give them 100, I only gave them a 77. :)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 11, 2008, 09:39 AM
I think he's just responding to your "AnthemRO rarely lags" /ok
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 11, 2008, 01:26 PM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Nov 11, 2008, 06:28 AM
he's a friend of one of them.

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Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 11, 2008, 01:31 PM
Exactly, lol. From what I read, he's just responding that the lag is horrible and that he gets the feeling you're a friend of the GM for saying it rarely lags.

...I guess? /hmm
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 11, 2008, 01:44 PM
Yes but it annoys me that people hate AnthemRO so much they would make stupid assumptions instead of showing facts :( I don't care if someone hates Anthem or love Anthem, just don't go spreading lies.

A big part of lag is due to the person's computer, which I guess many people do not know this. I have a powerful laptop and I run AnthemRO fine. Hell I can show you videos I made of WoE and you can barely tell it lags if at all.

Anyways, hey DeePee you still play in TalonRO? Hows it doing, it's been a while since I checked it out.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: GM-Ymir on Nov 11, 2008, 02:49 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Nov 11, 2008, 01:44 PM
Yes but it annoys me that people hate AnthemRO so much they would make stupid assumptions instead of showing facts :( I don't care if someone hates Anthem or love Anthem, just don't go spreading lies.

A big part of lag is due to the person's computer, which I guess many people do not know this. I have a powerful laptop and I run AnthemRO fine. Hell I can show you videos I made of WoE and you can barely tell it lags if at all.

Anyways, hey DeePee you still play in TalonRO? Hows it doing, it's been a while since I checked it out.

This is a joke right? I can't tell if you're being serious. It's widely known that AnthemRO has one of the worst pasts of any private server. And the only reason it might not be lagging now is because so many people left after they realised what AnthemRO was about, profits. I was there for a year or so, and it's quite difficult to survive on the server, especially if you're not a donator. Just reflecting on your original starting post, the donation items are not balanced at all, I mean their SQI are ridiculous. I understand they have server costs, but I know for a certain fact their income used to be one of the highest yields per player of all the private servers. They have no excuse to have laggy servers, which they have had in the past.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Guest on Nov 11, 2008, 03:12 PM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Nov 11, 2008, 06:28 AM
I get this sense that since he says he's not a GM etc he's a friend of one of them. Because I played AnthemRO for a short while, and the lag was horrible. Even in the AnimaRO days the lag was absolutely unbearable.

it doesn't matter who he is really, he still has the right to make a review
as for the lag thing... i don't think anyone can prove or disprove that because well... it could be you, or it could be the server who knows
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 11, 2008, 04:16 PM
Sure AnimaRO may had its share of problems, but this is AnthemRO and its run by new people. Unlike you, I will not talk bad about a server I do not know about, which you are clearly fond of doing. If you have bothered to do research, you would have seen the news about AnthemRO getting a new server and new hardware to reduce the lag not long ago.

The SQIs may currently be a bit off balanced but because of this imbalance, even the weakest class has a chance to kill the strongest class. Another thing I mentioned in my first post, but again you are so quick to flame that I can bet money you didn't read my entire first post. Donators do not rule in AnthemRO. I donated under $150 in 3 years which is barely over 100m zeny, in which I gave away most of it as gifts to friends who play. A carded SQI alone cost anywhere from 150 to 300 mil zeny. Now I own 3 SQIs + other gears which are about 70-100m a piece. Another point I said in my first post in which you did not bother to read. A newbie player can make a character and collect Piece of Cake which sells for about 3600z a piece. Anyone can start AnthemRO, make a level 50-60 character with NPC gear, go collect 100 cakes a day which takes 1-2 hours depending on your class and make 350-400k zeny a day. Now that would be about 2mil a week for a total newbie player and about 8-10mil a month. Now if they double the cake they collect thats almost 20mil zeny which is enough for 1 MVP card. If they buy a Doppelganger Card and stick it into any weapon, they just increased the zeny making by a ton and can buy the 2nd Doppelganger Card in under a month. It is insanely easy to make zeny so it's not hard to keep up with donators. 

Why do you keep talking about AnimaRO like it still exist? The only thing Anima and Anthem share in common is the same web page layout and a few vet members. Please stop ruining my topic and let others enjoy my post. :)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Descent on Nov 11, 2008, 04:35 PM
^^^ Seconded.

Anima =/= Anthem.

If Anthem has problems, it's due to Anthem's issues, not their supposed relation to AnimaRO.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 11, 2008, 05:12 PM
Well, for a server as aRO it's very much necessary to keep donations incoming. Unlike about every other RO server, aRO uses Aegis as a server platform which makes the server costs far more expensive. If I recall right, it takes at least 3 servers to even get the thing running well. Then also it runs on a Windows machine, making server rental even more expensive. eAthena servers basically only need 1 server to get the thing running fine and they do not use Windows, which is a lot cheaper. So yeah, they do need the donation money.

Sadly, it's also one of the biggest lag causers. If you have played any other server, no matter what the size, you will know the differences in lag. I mean...taking almost a full second to open an NPC menu is...well, quite long.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: XionSiphon on Nov 11, 2008, 05:35 PM
Quote from: DeePee on Nov 11, 2008, 05:12 PM
Well, for a server as aRO it's very much necessary to keep donations incoming. Unlike about every other RO server, aRO uses Aegis as a server platform which makes the server costs far more expensive. If I recall right, it takes at least 3 servers to even get the thing running well. Then also it runs on a Windows machine, making server rental even more expensive. eAthena servers basically only need 1 server to get the thing running fine and they do not use Windows, which is a lot cheaper. So yeah, they do need the donation money.

Sadly, it's also one of the biggest lag causers. If you have played any other server, no matter what the size, you will know the differences in lag. I mean...taking almost a full second to open an NPC menu is...well, quite long.

lol the good old days of finding a nice tiny server but soon getting ruined by the 1-3 second lag menu popup, I hated that too x_x
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Disney on Nov 12, 2008, 03:01 PM
"AnthemRO rarely laggs"?
(What I'm going to write is probably already mentioned, but I'm not gonna read every post)

It's lagging the hell out of me (and most others), and I play there 3 years.

It's still my favorite server, but start to dislike AnthemRO more and more.
People these days are already fully geared and have the so-called "Super Quest Items".
People are incredibly rude and "KoSing" eachother in pvp, if you only use a sword/mailbreaker for once.
There are seriously people been killing eachother so for more then 2-3 years.
The Forums are a pain. Everything that is going on is flaming, spamming, arguing and so on.
It's honnestly impossible for a new player to get going here.
It takes 3+ Years to get your stuff/equipment done for a non-donator. While for a donator it only takes one minute. $130 for a Custom Sprite Kaho, Isn't that epic failure? Note that these (The Custom Sprites) are NOT obtainable ingame.

And Yeah, I left some things out for sure, but don't bother.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 12, 2008, 04:47 PM
Like I said before, the lag could be your computer's fault ;< I used to lag with my old laptop, but my new one is like 5x better than my old one so I don't feel the lag like you may have. I recall someone saying that your distance away from the server location also affects the lag issue.

Of course people are fully geared you silly bear =P AnthemRO isn't new after all so people (like me) played long enough to gain gears without donating (If you see one of my previous post, I mention how benefical cake hunting is for complete newbies, for more advanced players, leeching is a gold mine). Even training isn't that bad, I made a level 83 Priest in like 4 days playing not longer than 2-3 hours a day (granted I had access to grape juice because of my zeny but a gearless person could probably get to that level in like 2 weeks with nothing)

If someone KoS you, change PVP maps. If they follow you and you screenie it, GMs will temp ban them ^__^ Love this rule. Sword/Mailbreaker is awesome o_o Anyone who complains about it should die, so keep on using it >D

Grudges in the game make the game interesting. Ever heard of Daryll, Evo, Hunt, T-Bone, GL guild, etc? They made PVP a war zone and it was exciting (annoying sometimes but still) It's better than how PVP is today with people just sitting around doing nothing in PVP =( I spent 100s of millions of zeny in PVP wars alone =X

If you see flaming and it's not in the Ranters Section, it could be reported also depending how bad it is. Ranters was made for moderate flaming though =P

It doesn't take 3+ years to be fully geared unless you go train on Porings for 3+ years or you stop playing for 2-3 years ._. Newbies are incouraged to join with all the new stuff the staff put for them, like the brand new Novice Island and the intro topic in forums.

AnthemRO has custom sprites which makes it unique to other servers. Everyone has access to getting these though. They not worth it IMO, I used regular Kaho sprite for most of my aRO career and just got a custom this Summer because I found a cheap one.

If you still play in aRO keep playing and look for all the new things out (check the news) and if not, check the news anyways to see everything that has been put out lately.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 12, 2008, 06:14 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Nov 12, 2008, 04:47 PM
Like I said before, the lag could be your computer's fault ;< I used to lag with my old laptop, but my new one is like 5x better than my old one so I don't feel the lag like you may have. I recall someone saying that your distance away from the server location also affects the lag issue.

Erm, when any other RO server, even the ones with 1-2k players, doesn't not lag, then it's not really a computer problem. Most of them are located at around the same area so that can't be the problem..
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Pow on Nov 12, 2008, 06:42 PM
Quote from: DeePee on Nov 12, 2008, 06:14 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Nov 12, 2008, 04:47 PM
Like I said before, the lag could be your computer's fault ;< I used to lag with my old laptop, but my new one is like 5x better than my old one so I don't feel the lag like you may have. I recall someone saying that your distance away from the server location also affects the lag issue.

Erm, when any other RO server, even the ones with 1-2k players, doesn't not lag, then it's not really a computer problem. Most of them are located at around the same area so that can't be the problem..

That is called latency.. No matter how close you are to something, you will still have latency (Even on LAN games, you will still have a latency of 1 - Which denotes 1 millisecond of delay).

Your location to the server does affect your ping to it, but you might have underlying issues:


Your internet connection passed through a 'grid' or an 'exchange' before it is transferred to your ISP's main node (See below).


Your internet data does not just travel from one computer to another, it is 'bounced' off multiple servers (Nodes) - if one of these is out, you will experience a higher latency while your data is rerouted.


Torrents, P2P programs and even MSN, winamp and other IM programs, media players and etc can be a strain on a system and its connection.

-Pow
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Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Nov 13, 2008, 02:32 AM
Yeah, of course. Though, when any other RO server in that same area does not lag...then it's obviously not your firewall, internet connection, downloads, etc... Especially when so many people complain about it =/
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Disney on Nov 13, 2008, 11:59 AM
Quote from: BomberWill on Nov 12, 2008, 04:47 PM
If someone KoS you, change PVP maps. If they follow you and you screenie it, GMs will temp ban them ^__^ Love this rule. Sword/Mailbreaker is awesome o_o Anyone who complains about it should die, so keep on using it >D

Grudges in the game make the game interesting. Ever heard of Daryll, Evo, Hunt, T-Bone, GL guild, etc? They made PVP a war zone and it was exciting (annoying sometimes but still) It's better than how PVP is today with people just sitting around doing nothing in PVP =( I spent 100s of millions of zeny in PVP wars alone =X

If you see flaming and it's not in the Ranters Section, it could be reported also depending how bad it is. Ranters was made for moderate flaming though =P

It doesn't take 3+ years to be fully geared unless you go train on Porings for 3+ years or you stop playing for 2-3 years ._. Newbies are incouraged to join with all the new stuff the staff put for them, like the brand new Novice Island and the intro topic in forums.

@ the pvp part: xD Yes, but that's not quite provable. Sometimes people change char and kill you in Pvp.
They keep hunting you with a diffrent char (that's lifeless but it happends), so it can't be proved. (Maybe an IP check, but before thats proven we're 1 year furhter)

@Daryll/evo, whatnot: Ofcourse I know 'em. Daryll got banned for hacking his wife, Evo for AD fraud.
(And lol when he found out chaterina was a guy.) Okay, back On-topic. =P

@Ranters part: It's many, many times in the suggestion area. GM's are not paying attention while someone gets flamed terribly for his/her "broken" suggestion. People can also just say they don't support the idea into a little bit kinder way.

If I sum up what I earned myself in-game, I think it DID took me 3+ years.
(Regardless from getting my SQI's from friends who quit and donating.)
Because you know, Hunting cakes all day and night isn't fun, it gives you the feeling like you don't get closer at all. =/

My way when I first started was making level 95+ characters and sell them for 10m each.
That should be one of the best ways. I must've made 100mil like that.  :-[
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Nov 13, 2008, 02:05 PM
Oh god yes! 2-3 years ago, character selling was f'ing awesome! Now a level 99 char sells for 10mil I think? I dunno the market that much on characters but I know it dropped to a point where profit cant be made unless you can level a char from 1-99 in 1-2 days.

Heh cakes is one suggestion =P When I started playing, I made like no zeny until I was in my mid 80s on my rogue with a party in niff ;< I didn't have the advantage most people in aRO have these days with the over 9000 guides posted on how to make zeny.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: ORmehtna on Nov 27, 2008, 10:47 PM
I would like to say a few things about AnthemRO.  This server has came a long way.  AnthemRO is all about the players, they have events and awesome stuff all the time, If you read forums you will see how we got people that are in game to help players if it need be.  The staff of this server are always working hard to improve this server, recently they have Implemented new things to the server and they tell us that there is much more to come, I have played on a few other RO servers and something about this one caught my eye, ever since the first day I set foot on AnthemRO I was hooked, I still play here and plan to play this server until I can't continue to play anymore.

     
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: ADDFurret on Dec 16, 2008, 09:13 PM
The Community are Ungrateful, and Pvp is everything. Ad frauders exist everywhere to abuse the system, The All the Seven sins except Lust and Gluttony Applies there.

And yet, Which server doesn't?

This is By far the Best Aegis Server ever, It is No doubt Incredibly Stable. GMs are trying So hard to Update to the latest Version of RO. The Developers also know what they are doing because Some of the recent updates were made from Scatch.

If you get a Friend here it'll be very hard for you to Leave. This Server is overall awesome, they just need a few Gms that would stick around to do events, than this server can literally pile drive every other server out there.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Dec 16, 2008, 09:48 PM
Quote from: ADDFurret on Dec 16, 2008, 09:13 PM
Ad frauders exist everywhere to abuse the system

http://www.anthemro.com/forums/index.php?topic=54037.0   ;D
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: HuiJun on Dec 17, 2008, 11:14 PM
Anthem is the one that sells MVP and MiniBoss cards right?
(http://ratemyserver.net/forum/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif)
 
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Kenshi. on Dec 18, 2008, 05:28 AM
Quote from: DeePee on Nov 13, 2008, 02:32 AM
Yeah, of course. Though, when any other RO server in that same area does not lag...then it's obviously not your firewall, internet connection, downloads, etc... Especially when so many people complain about it =/

I'm curious to why someone who isn't even playing on Anthemro, and haven't played for a long while ( and you're even GM:ing on Talonro).. even bothers commenting on this server.

I don't have any latencyproblems, other than the little delay I should have thanks to living in Europe. 

HuiJun: Yes, it is.
Posted on: Dec 17, 2008, 09:18 pm
Quote from: Disney on Nov 12, 2008, 03:01 PM
"AnthemRO rarely laggs"?
(What I'm going to write is probably already mentioned, but I'm not gonna read every post)

It's lagging the hell out of me (and most others), and I play there 3 years.

It's still my favorite server, but start to dislike AnthemRO more and more.
People these days are already fully geared and have the so-called "Super Quest Items".
People are incredibly rude and "KoSing" eachother in pvp, if you only use a sword/mailbreaker for once.
There are seriously people been killing eachother so for more then 2-3 years.
The Forums are a pain. Everything that is going on is flaming, spamming, arguing and so on.
It's honnestly impossible for a new player to get going here.
It takes 3+ Years to get your stuff/equipment done for a non-donator. While for a donator it only takes one minute. $130 for a Custom Sprite Kaho, Isn't that epic failure? Note that these (The Custom Sprites) are NOT obtainable ingame.

And Yeah, I left some things out for sure, but don't bother.

God. 3 years to get your gear done for a non-donator? Maybe if you play 20 min a day. And you can obtain the "Custom Sprite Kaho" ingame, through buying them from another player.
And what the f*** else is a forum supposed to be for? Movierewiews? Talking about flowers? I don't get your point about the forum.

And the rude/kos:ing people are mostly the good geared pinoys.

Have you even played on the server? o_o
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Dec 18, 2008, 06:02 AM
Quote from: Kenshi. on Dec 18, 2008, 05:28 AM
Quote from: DeePee on Nov 13, 2008, 02:32 AM
Yeah, of course. Though, when any other RO server in that same area does not lag...then it's obviously not your firewall, internet connection, downloads, etc... Especially when so many people complain about it =/

I'm curious to why someone who isn't even playing on Anthemro, and haven't played for a long while ( and you're even GM:ing on Talonro).. even bothers commenting on this server.

I don't have any latencyproblems, other than the little delay I should have thanks to living in Europe. 

That doesn't stop you from lurking other server's IRC and Forums either, right? Mind that many people here are from other servers (or GMing on them). That's the entire point of RMS /ok
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Kenshi. on Dec 18, 2008, 09:21 AM
Quote from: DeePee on Dec 18, 2008, 06:02 AM
Quote from: Kenshi. on Dec 18, 2008, 05:28 AM
Quote from: DeePee on Nov 13, 2008, 02:32 AM
Yeah, of course. Though, when any other RO server in that same area does not lag...then it's obviously not your firewall, internet connection, downloads, etc... Especially when so many people complain about it =/

I'm curious to why someone who isn't even playing on Anthemro, and haven't played for a long while ( and you're even GM:ing on Talonro).. even bothers commenting on this server.

I don't have any latencyproblems, other than the little delay I should have thanks to living in Europe. 

That doesn't stop you from lurking other server's IRC and Forums either, right? Mind that many people here are from other servers (or GMing on them). That's the entire point of RMS /ok

So what if I lurk on other servers irc's/forums? I do play on them. You're just posting pointless crap about a server you do not even play on. You know I <3 you, Deepee. But, please. Stop talking.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Disney on Dec 18, 2008, 09:25 AM
Quote from: Kenshi. on Dec 18, 2008, 05:28 AM
Have you even played on the server? o_o

Uh, yes? I'm playing there 3 years.
Most stuff I obtained are from quitted friends.
And what I ment with obtaining the (custom sprite) Kaho was more based because there is no quest or anything for it In-game.

And now you are praticually saying that forums does exist to flame.. No wonder, it's exactly what I see you doing now.. "Talking about flowers"? If that is how you see it, Yes. you should use the forums to stay in touch with guildmembers, read the news/updates, and answer questions that newbies wish to know.
Not to blacklist, and making your fellow players look like fools in ranters. You should respect them and be happy that they still play, if they did not, AnthemRO was no more. :/


Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Dec 18, 2008, 03:11 PM
Quote from: HuiJun on Dec 17, 2008, 11:14 PM
Anthem is the one that sells MVP and MiniBoss cards right?

Yea you can purchase any card off the website but MVPs do drop the card also. If you lurk around aRO forums, you'll see screenies of people getting cards through killing MVPs. Also the cards ingame aren't that expensive so everyone has access to it =P

@Everyone else: *ignores~ Less flaming more praising an awesome server =P
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Dec 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
Really guys, please don't bicker/flame about the server. Pretty simply put, you guys like it, and they don't. End of story. As for "lurking" on other servers, the only staff member I know of that does, is Zapbomb. As for myself, I'll click a link to the server/forums if someone links it to me. But other than that, it's no big deal for me. TalonRO, is TalonRO. AnthemRO is AnthemRO. So whether or not they lurk, I don't really care; all I ask is that they follow the rules, and that's that. What I do care about, are GMs which blatantly are rude or abuse power when Zapbomb comes to hang out (Force DCs). This is just what I've heard from word of mouth though, so take it like a grain of salt.

Yes, we do have donations for the cards and such, however, being an Aegis server with several dedicated servers, in order to survive, we need this type of business model. Especially with the current state of the server/population vs. the new servers we recently upgraded to + the test servers we obtained.

As for lag, some people experience it, some don't. I used to have 2 separate ISPs at home, Cox Communications (I think the 2nd best plan?) and 2nd tier SBC DSL. Cox Communications never lagged, while SBC lags on the server. I can never judge lag on any server, quite simply because there are too many factors, which can contribute to lag, both being on the client side, and the server side.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Dec 18, 2008, 04:34 PM
Quote from: Denia on Dec 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
What I do care about, are GMs which blatantly are rude or abuse power when Zapbomb comes to hang out (Force DCs). This is just what I've heard from word of mouth though, so take it like a grain of salt.

Yeah, the DC was more of an insider joke and I'm pretty sure he knows it, nothing to worry about ;). Zapbomb probably didn't receive the msg that was sent before it ;D
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Dec 18, 2008, 04:50 PM
According to him, he doesn't know of any joke nor got the message. But either way, it's irrelevant.

On that same note though, I try to refrain from doing anything of that sort to anyone because it can cause misunderstandings :< But that may just be me personally.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: DeePee on Dec 18, 2008, 04:53 PM
Tell him to give Theni a kick on MSN, he'll understand /ok

On a sidenote, heard he's working on some neat stuff that looks pretty impressive :)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Dec 19, 2008, 12:15 AM
It's funny how such a huge flame war started because I said a few good things about anthemRO, but not one person commented on the negative things I said (that I can remember anyways) =X

Talis and zappy both work on the coding parts to add new things I think /hmm Anyways they both seem pretty busy with all the new things that has been happening lately in aRO.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: ADDFurret on Dec 28, 2008, 05:06 AM
True Lag can be horrible at times. But compared to other eAthena servers or Aegis servers, I'd rather wait 15 minutes for a trade to complete rather than let the item get losted due to some Disconnection bull****

Not to mention the server is bot free. So Yeah

eAthena
                 AnthemRO

    I                            II


To all the lurkers out there, Just give the server a shot and see for yourself. Don't let a couple of negative comments fog your decision.





HEY! You! Yeah I see you, don't you dare press that Button, Go try out our server! NO NO move the cursor away from that...Click on the URL and.......NO NO DON"T YOU DARE! GET AWAY FROM THAT BUTTON!! I MEAN IT, I"LL KILL YOU WITH MY HORDE OF NINJA BUNNIES! I MEAN IT, THEY SHOW NO MERCY!
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: GM-Ymir on Dec 28, 2008, 08:18 AM
I just made an account in the last two days to see if the lag is still there, it is. But I suppose with comebacks like it's your fault, a lot of people must be at fault. I understand that lag is the least of AnthemRO's problems. With all the reports of corruption etc, not that I believe everything I'm told. It's just a re-occurance of problems stemming from the AnimaRO days.

However the fondest memories I have from Anima/AnthemRO is how friendly the community is, especially with the lacking GM/Player relationship. I enjoyed the company of many intelligent and friendly people on Anima/Anthem. Lastly, for those who think AnthemRO is the best server out there. My advice is to actually try other servers before saying that.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Dec 28, 2008, 01:32 PM
I never once said that it was "your fault" or "the player's fault," but merely, there are a lot of factors as to why lag is experienced in any game, and on any server, and cannot be attributed to purely just the server. The player base comes from all parts of the world, and each player has a different ISP. Each computer is different, each connection speed is different. The routing from one ISP to another is different. As I stated previously, you cannot simply say "the server is laggy," simply because a few players say it is laggy, when others say it isn't.

It is, what it is for you, it's relative. And this goes for all servers of all kinds and all specs, not just Anthem.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Jan 01, 2009, 03:48 PM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Dec 28, 2008, 08:18 AM
Lastly, for those who think AnthemRO is the best server out there. My advice is to actually try other servers before saying that.

I have played in about 5-6 servers and I still think aRO is the best one out of all I played. I remember trying another low rate server and I went to the forums to ask a question and like one of the first answers I got was something like here goes another dumb donkey player >_>  Yeah because a newbie player is supposed to know everything amirite  ??? Another server I tried only had like 100 people tops then eventually closed down. Another one had stupid warps so I never got back to any town, got bored, and left. aRO been through hell and back many times and yet it's still open, maybe it's just me but they seem to be doing something right if they still open.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 03, 2009, 12:38 AM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Dec 28, 2008, 08:18 AM
I just made an account in the last two days to see if the lag is still there, it is. But I suppose with comebacks like it's your fault, a lot of people must be at fault. I understand that lag is the least of AnthemRO's problems. With all the reports of corruption etc, not that I believe everything I'm told. It's just a re-occurance of problems stemming from the AnimaRO days.

That statement is completely false. Let's get this straight AnthemRO is not AnimaRO and nor does it have any of the problems "stemming from AnimaRO day's". Corruption is out of the question. I agree, on AnimaRO there was once a time you could come in here and start bashing the server making claims of corruption and lag but those days are now long gone, so don't try it. In the past few weeks lag has been absolutely minimal as I have been personally monitoring server performance 24x7. Most players have acknowledged this fact.

The point is that AnthemRO IS one of the best servers out there. YOU should give it a try and THEN comment on it. :)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Dr House on Jan 11, 2009, 06:16 PM
The server is ok at best, anthem should offer quests for customizing kaho's but that'll take away from their donations so odds are it'll never happen. Yea it probably does generate money but hey, what are you going to do about? Players want to be cool in that server so let them be. It's a low rate so the card drop rate is obviously low but not impossible. Anything available (custom kaho's aside) on their item shop for donations is available in game via drops or quest but even the custom kaho's are available via vending from other players (believe it or not most of the stuff is allot cheaper in game than via donations) Lag is pretty bad, lets not lie guys about 4-5 guilds were kicked off the new woe 2.0 castle, i know its still under the works and glitched but the new stuff isn't exactly super stable so i guess thats understandable. By all means i'm sure its the best Aegis server out there. Community is ehhh they're ok people, you run into friendly people but you also run into jackasses so the server gets a 7 out of 10
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: dputra705 on Jan 16, 2009, 05:04 AM
My comment as a player as i had play Ro since AnimaRO till now, 2yrs +

- Who said you need donation to play aRO?
I leave in asia, i never donated any single cent. I don't bot of scam. Now, i can't count how much zeny i (billionsssss) got. I can afford any of the SQIs in the games and i owns most of them... 

It's not about difficult to play, but do you really know how to play, what did you learn ? after 3 years.

- SQI or MVP equips?
Do you need SQI or MVP Cards? A knowledgable RO player without those equip can bet a normal player without SQI or MVP weap. If you are good, you can go anyway and any RO and still survive and enjoy. That is fact in aRO. Yes, the SQI or MVP equips make it difficult. Why complain, take it as challange.. If you don't like just don't player.

I'm suck those,for PvP or WoE.


- Lagging?
Yes, sometime but not all the time. Most of the time, its you owns connection problem. I have 3 ISP connections, At max, i have , 4 PCs connected to aRO with more 10 connection/cleint open, some lag, some don't. I switch within different ISP connection at different time, i do IP trace to check on ISP that giving me problem, whos response is faster. The biggest issue is the inconsistent of IP route especially through international gateways..... I also have an isp offer me 2m uplink and 2m downlink that allow me to upload big file in shortest time, but the one i use mostly is 1m up 256k down as it give me best gaming experince. Do you know why? I also know exactly how many concurrently cleint that i can open on each of my pc, if i open beyond that, the lag will be killing me.........


Know what you talking, your experience may not  reflect the actual thing as perceive by you.
Seek to understand where is the problem and learn from that. Complain does't help...
What you don't like doesn't mean is wrong, it just you opnion.
For people to respect you, you need to gain it.



We always welcome constructive feedback and areas to improve. I strongly believe our GM is open to it. I have trust with them.

AnthemRO has under a lot of changes since new GM team taking over, a lot of good thing happen... I respect the GM team, they are doing their best jobs trying to bring a lot of changes, new thing, new update, funs, be friendly to user, arrange small & big event. Yes, there are areas that need improvement, lag tunning on specific area (i don't think it's perfect but not a major issue), support ticket, but overall i'm proud to be part of it.

This is my first aRO, not the only but will be my last RO. I will be moving to others games but don't know when.. I sincerely thank aRO GM team for bring a lot of funs for me.....

Lastly, as the player, i do have great respect for "GM". But, i do hope "GM" can carry yourself as a "GM"...  As least, my respect to anthemRO GM still stand.

Good day


Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Dr House on Jan 24, 2009, 12:44 AM
Here's an update on the server for those who care, they've killed their own forums with kiddie rules. They've temp banned several players for bringing up (although gross) not so bad topics. Not like any was posted pr0n or anything but apparently about ten kids play on that server and its now monitored. I think a large chunk of players even created a sub forum that isn't full of failure and suck up to negligent parents. Not to mention they'll start charging for warps to their new dungeons. 800z is the most expensive warp, which isn't allot of you're an active player but not everyone wastes their time grinding away for zenny. The gm's should learn that the player needs come before theirs, so what if a couple of players couldn't handle a post or two, they should go else where (not like the community will ever be super friendly as they are envisioning it in the future) I mean come on guys, this game is ancient. You're not going to get a rush of players through being "nice" (and by nice i mean putting up rules, limiting new players to old dungeons not giving them the liberty to at least look around) If anything at least try and keep the few players you have not piss them off to the point of having to make their own forums ahahaha
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Jan 24, 2009, 08:14 PM
I hate the new forums rules so much XD For anyone who didn't see the rules, GMs/mods are moderating forums big time and editing and excessive use of curse words, bashing, etc. They are trying to make it a more friendly server for the underaged kids to enjoy more or something to that nature.

AceJay you nub come back to aRO ;<
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: pokket~ on Jan 25, 2009, 04:36 AM
aRO's my home server. Always been.
No matter how many times I tried to move server, I always failed and came back. QQ
Many of my friends have the same problem lol. Doesn't that actually say something?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Jan 25, 2009, 04:48 AM
It's my original server as well, up until recently, I've kept coming back.
However, this time around, I will not be able to return.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 26, 2009, 06:13 PM
Quote from: Dr House on Jan 24, 2009, 12:44 AM
Here's an update on the server for those who care, they've killed their own forums with kiddie rules. They've temp banned several players for bringing up (although gross) not so bad topics. Not like any was posted pr0n or anything but apparently about ten kids play on that server and its now monitored.

The rules were enforced to make the forums more acceptable to players of all ages. After all its a game forum not 4chan.
Also, oh yeah the forums not dead as you claim.

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3672/forumto6.jpg)

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6402/forum2uy1.jpg)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Jan 26, 2009, 07:30 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Jan 24, 2009, 08:14 PMAceJay you nub come back to aRO ;<
And have someone press charges against me? No thanks.

Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 24, 2009, 09:24 PM
AnimaRO is back?
That was my first server!
Mine too--Yes and no. AnthemRO is the same server in terms of character data, rates, and (mostly) the same gameplay and features as Anima, (of course with the latest (ep12?) updates) though the staff is almost 100% gone and is now comprised of some b**** and some cool people that all used to be players, and sadly Debbie passed away. After that there was a TON of drama at Anima, and Black Talon decided to kind of do something strange and (semi) corrupt but uh not really. He basically took like 300 of Anima's players and started TalonRO, which is basically the same as the old Anima plus the latest updates, and eAthena lol.

After that it all went to hell and the GMs became evil :>

Also, depending on when you registered on Anima, your account and characters will most likely be on TalonRO.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 26, 2009, 07:57 PM
AceJay....the GMs of AnthemRO are not evil..or corrupt. That was AnimaRO.

AnthemRO =/= AnimaRO

TalonRO = AnimaRO /heh (Just kidding)

You should come back and check it out for yourself and yeah we are Aegis episode 12.1(currently in transition).
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 26, 2009, 10:25 PM
Quote from: AceJay on Jan 26, 2009, 07:30 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Jan 24, 2009, 08:14 PMAceJay you nub come back to aRO ;<
And have someone press charges against me? No thanks.

Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 24, 2009, 09:24 PM
AnimaRO is back?
That was my first server!
Mine too--Yes and no. AnthemRO is the same server in terms of character data, rates, and (mostly) the same gameplay and features as Anima, (of course with the latest (ep12?) updates) though the staff is almost 100% gone and is now comprised of some b**** and some cool people that all used to be players, and sadly Debbie passed away. After that there was a TON of drama at Anima, and Black Talon decided to kind of do something strange and (semi) corrupt but uh not really. He basically took like 300 of Anima's players and started TalonRO, which is basically the same as the old Anima plus the latest updates, and eAthena lol.

After that it all went to hell and the GMs became evil :>

Also, depending on when you registered on Anima, your account and characters will most likely be on TalonRO.

You mean evil because we banned you, several times for posting hentai on our forums? You mean evil, because one of the staff members had to report you to your ISP for hentai and not stopping once we banned you the first couple times? While it was a harsh move IMO, it seemed to be the only thing that stopped you from continuously ban evading and spamming our forums with "GMS = Fags" and hentai/lolicon.

Take responsibility for your actions for once AceJay. You did those things, and there were consequences. It's just like running a red stop light. The first few times, sure you may not get caught, or the policeman will let you off. But do it too many times and you'll get caught and have to face up to the consequences.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Jan 26, 2009, 10:51 PM
more like modsequalsfags etc etc

I sure as hell did post those things, and I'm not denying, nor have I ever. And on the bright side, I realized that if you reported me at home I would likely not continue to have the internet and would most definitely have some kind of charges against me. If you guys said that it was CP, well then I wouldn't be here right now. Thanks for that, honestly. As an alternative you could have simply blocked my IP ranges, since I don't care enough to bother with a proxy.

Also, not really, Varis has always been evil :)
And honestly, disregarding the staff, I personally think it went way downhill as Anthem, minus a couple points.

Oh and zap, I didn't say the Anthem GMs were corrupt. I don't think they are. In fact, it's probably one of the best-moderated servers out there. I just mentioned BT's thing. Turning it into Gaia/Roblox moderation may be taking it too far though haha.

Anyway Denia I thought you were cool what happened :'(
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: GM-Ymir on Jan 27, 2009, 04:06 AM
I don't know why people are trying to say AnthemRO and AnimaRO have no connection what so ever. Well wake up and smell the roses, they do and most of the GM's from AnimaRO from AnthemRO. Not to mention many of the corruption situations on AnimaRO which were continually denied, even when a specific GM started dropping Kaho horns and MVP cards in Prontera.

What I'm getting at is, AnthemRO is the successor to AnimaRO, and many of the faults have not been fixed let alone the staff issue.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Jan 27, 2009, 07:45 AM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Jan 27, 2009, 04:06 AM
I don't know why people are trying to say AnthemRO and AnimaRO have no connection what so ever. Well wake up and smell the roses, they do and most of the GM's from AnimaRO from AnthemRO. Not to mention many of the corruption situations on AnimaRO which were continually denied, even when a specific GM started dropping Kaho horns and MVP cards in Prontera.

What I'm getting at is, AnthemRO is the successor to AnimaRO, and many of the faults have not been fixed let alone the staff issue.
Ymir, you are completely wrong there.
I know all the staff, I have been a part of staff.
Anima was under Harken's and Debbie's ruling, not Talis's.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 27, 2009, 11:32 AM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Jan 27, 2009, 04:06 AM
I don't know why people are trying to say AnthemRO and AnimaRO have no connection what so ever. Well wake up and smell the roses, they do and most of the GM's from AnimaRO from AnthemRO. Not to mention many of the corruption situations on AnimaRO which were continually denied, even when a specific GM started dropping Kaho horns and MVP cards in Prontera.

What I'm getting at is, AnthemRO is the successor to AnimaRO, and many of the faults have not been fixed let alone the staff issue.

1. Talis was hired on during the whole TalonRO split, however was not a part of the Debbie era.
2. Calbee was the one who allegedly dropped all the items. I say allegedly because it was his IP that did it, however it was all recovered by some of the newer staff which was hired on during that area.
3. There are only 2 remaining from the "animaro" era so to speak.
4. The rest of the staff is completely new and hired on during the AnthemRO era, less some of the moderators. Those moderators are not even really active any longer, unless you count Varis. But they have no say in game what so ever.

I think what you're hugely missing as well though, is the fact that it is a new owner. IRL, in most companies, when a new owner takes over, things do in fact change. I don't think it's quite fair for anyone to judge right off the bat that things are exactly the same way, when they haven't played or even tried out Anthem since old Debbie days.

I'm not even denying that I used to be on an "animaRO staff." However, that was even during Harken era, when everything was under his control, and his will.

Speaking from personal experience though, he scares me >_>;

Again though, as I say when I tell any player this, because it is coming from my mouth, as a former staff member, most likely, you won't believe me. I am on the side of the "enemy." But perhaps consider this, how come there haven't been any more "corruption" like there used to be in the olden days? When corruption was spouted left and right about claims of botting/favoritism and junk? While I wasn't on staff while that happened, I am neither going to acknowledge or deny. I never saw it first hand myself.

But I was there during the time when the TalonRO split happened and MVP cards and items were dropped by a very disgruntled staff member.  But I was also there to help pick up the pieces during the aftermath of the whole ordeal. So what I can tell you is, the things that took place thereafter, less any personal details.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 27, 2009, 12:36 PM
I was just talking about former staff. And yes, I did ban you several times.

You just wouldn't listen to our rules and just kept trying to bend the rules for yourself -_-; No, means no Elements. Stop, means stop. You can't keep harassing someone and then trying to get them in trouble for "harassing your girlfriend" on MSN who doesn't even tell the "harasser" to stop messaging her, but rather indulges him and eggs him on in the conversation.

MSN != RO Jurisdiction
AIM != RO Jurisdiction

However, in game, forums, and IRC are. Which, was where you continued to harass this player over and over. I mean really, you guys harassed each other. All I did was say, you guys need to stop doing this. If either of you continue and it IS on our grounds, you will get banned for it. And you decided to do it anyways.

As for you being there, like I said above:

"Personally, I cannot confirm or deny, since I wasn't around in staff during those times to say anything. And as a player, I was ignorant to any of those things happening."

I only confirm, what I do know happened first hand. Not what I hear from word of mouth.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Guest on Jan 27, 2009, 06:50 PM
i have to ask why such a thing is still being talked about even long after its fall
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 27, 2009, 06:59 PM
The way I see it, some people donated, broke the rules, got banned and now bash the server for no reason whatsoever because they expected not to be banned because they donated. Yup that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: ADDFurret on Jan 27, 2009, 07:35 PM
Quote from: GM-Ymir on Jan 27, 2009, 04:06 AM
I don't know why people are trying to say AnthemRO and AnimaRO have no connection what so ever. Well wake up and smell the roses, they do and most of the GM's from AnimaRO from AnthemRO. Not to mention many of the corruption situations on AnimaRO which were continually denied, even when a specific GM started dropping Kaho horns and MVP cards in Prontera.

What I'm getting at is, AnthemRO is the successor to AnimaRO, and many of the faults have not been fixed let alone the staff issue.

Bahaha, you want to talk trash about servers? because I can name a pretty darn few of yours. Don't talk s*** about this server if you don't know a THING about it. This is AnthemRO, Not AnimaRO. The GMs never Denied the fact another one of their staffs went rogue and decided to drop extremely valuable items in Prontera. Maybe the fact that some people don't see the connection between AnimaRO to AnthemRO is because AnthemRO has improved greatly.

So Want to hear about my review of your server? Because I got a lot to say about that <3 Hole =D

Quote from: You on Jan 27, 2009, 07:29 PM
Why is this thread still open

Because it is not dead?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 27, 2009, 07:49 PM
I'm not Joule :( But thanks Serenity. I actually think of it as a compliment that you think that I am XD;;;

Edit:

Okay now, back to all seriousness, Serenity is correct. People will believe what they want to believe. No matter what either sides say, that truth shall remain. If someone wants to turn a blind eye to the truth, that's what they will do.

And even though this was good feedback for us, sadly, it always turns out this way and will probably just get worse :/

I just wish it wouldn't turn out this way when Anthem does get good feedback. Because not all good feedback means that the player is friends with a GM or is the GM himself/herself. :|

One thing is apparent though, in the past year(?) that Anthem has been open, the staff which come and go, none have left in such a manner which you'd see occasionally on AnimaRO (spawn/toss items/pissed off announcements broadcasts in game/forum take over/angry angry angry posts etc). So maybe Anthem is doing something right for once. Either that, or the staff members are secretly assassins killing off the GMs once they leave staff since AnthemRO staff members are gangster like that.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Guest on Jan 27, 2009, 08:21 PM
sigh okay, everyone just relax with the topic and all okay? X.x
this is old old old news, can't we just let it die?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Jan 27, 2009, 10:12 PM
Quote from: zapbomb on Jan 27, 2009, 06:59 PM
The way I see it, some people donated, broke the rules, got banned and now bash the server for no reason whatsoever because they expected not to be banned because they donated. Yup that pretty much sums it up.

Hoping this isn't aimed at me.  :-\

Quote from: Serenity on Jan 27, 2009, 07:37 PMAnd... CP, AceJay? Wow. I didn't know anyone other than Haraku who would be bold enough to post that crap publicly. :(

It was loli :<
Shortly thereafter loli was legally deemed CP.
It was also rather tame, and the face was shopped over to make it look hillarious. Anyway.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Guest on Jan 27, 2009, 10:24 PM
cleaning the topic of some not needed posts
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 28, 2009, 12:00 AM
Quote from: AceJay on Jan 27, 2009, 10:12 PM
Quote from: zapbomb on Jan 27, 2009, 06:59 PM
The way I see it, some people donated, broke the rules, got banned and now bash the server for no reason whatsoever because they expected not to be banned because they donated. Yup that pretty much sums it up.

Hoping this isn't aimed at me.  :-\

Nah, just generalizing.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: bleu on Jan 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
@Denia or any AnthemRO players I guess


May I ask, how does AnthemRO attracts "new players"? I don't mean players like Zone. I call those returning players. Like many former official server players, we have no clue about the AnimaRO/AnthemRO saga which must have made headlines among the PS community. What's so special and unique about AnthemRO? It can't be its up-to-date episodes; its behind official and other eAthena based servers. I am just curious, what are the key factors which attract "new players" to AnthemRO? How does AnthemRO differentiate itself from other servers? What does AnthemRO claims to have which other servers does not offer and could not easily replicate?


p/s I am not sure if its out of topic. The subject just says AnthemRO and its under the server review section. Very curious.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Jan 28, 2009, 08:11 AM
Quote from: bleu on Jan 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
@Denia or any AnthemRO players I guess


May I ask, how does AnthemRO attracts "new players"? I don't mean players like Zone. I call those returning players. Like many former official server players, we have no clue about the AnimaRO/AnthemRO saga which must have made headlines among the PS community. What's so special and unique about AnthemRO? It can't be its up-to-date episodes; its behind official and other eAthena based servers. I am just curious, what are the key factors which attract "new players" to AnthemRO? How does AnthemRO differentiate itself from other servers? What does AnthemRO claims to have which other servers does not offer and could not easily replicate?


p/s I am not sure if its out of topic. The subject just says AnthemRO and its under the server review section. Very curious.
Ah, well, the thing about anthem is the staff actually work hard to improve the server by personally coding updates.
Who knows, it could be the population and someone wanting a commandless server, or it could be that they don't care about the drama and would rather see it first hand than take someone else's word on what the server is like.

That's my guess, the server's population is growing daily, so there much be something bringing in the players.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: zapbomb on Jan 28, 2009, 09:10 AM
Quote from: bleu on Jan 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
@Denia or any AnthemRO players I guess


May I ask, how does AnthemRO attracts "new players"? I don't mean players like Zone. I call those returning players. Like many former official server players, we have no clue about the AnimaRO/AnthemRO saga which must have made headlines among the PS community. What's so special and unique about AnthemRO? It can't be its up-to-date episodes; its behind official and other eAthena based servers. I am just curious, what are the key factors which attract "new players" to AnthemRO? How does AnthemRO differentiate itself from other servers? What does AnthemRO claims to have which other servers does not offer and could not easily replicate?


p/s I am not sure if its out of topic. The subject just says AnthemRO and its under the server review section. Very curious.

The one thing that AnthemRO has that almost no other server has is that its an Aegis server. Aegis is the software that official servers use. So it's not emulation like with eAthena, it the real thing. Plus we are on episode 12 (on par with iRO, and a little ahead of official eAthena release). :)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 11:19 AM
Quote from: bleu on Jan 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
@Denia or any AnthemRO players I guess


May I ask, how does AnthemRO attracts "new players"? I don't mean players like Zone. I call those returning players. Like many former official server players, we have no clue about the AnimaRO/AnthemRO saga which must have made headlines among the PS community. What's so special and unique about AnthemRO? It can't be its up-to-date episodes; its behind official and other eAthena based servers. I am just curious, what are the key factors which attract "new players" to AnthemRO? How does AnthemRO differentiate itself from other servers? What does AnthemRO claims to have which other servers does not offer and could not easily replicate?


p/s I am not sure if its out of topic. The subject just says AnthemRO and its under the server review section. Very curious.

To be honest, I don't really think it was the whole Aegis thing. The Dev team really work hard on updates, however, from what it seems like (and from personal experience) it was word of mouth. I joined a long time ago during an exp boost event due to some friends stumbling on the server (and they found out from some other friends of theirs about the server). My friends urged me to join along and to try the server out because it felt "official" but also had some perks to it (ala warp girl etc).

One of my main concerns back then, was that I didn't have enough time to play and that I would never be anywhere near decent due to the lack of time. I often scoffed at RO back then and was disgusted by the rates on official (due to lack of time). The boost, donation items, and friends were what got me started. But then I stayed due to the population and the friends I had made.

So yeah, that's my little story on what attracted me to the server. I have tried other servers out in the meanwhile. Mid rate/high rate/low rate and none of them had the "feel" that I had been looking for.

Each player has his or her own reason for stopping by though, so I cannot say for certain that it's the server platform, or the population alone.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: GM-Ymir on Jan 28, 2009, 12:00 PM
The logic of AnthemRO/AnimaRO players, insult and patronize people that don't play or like their server. My own thoughts aren't merely my own, they represent a large amount of former players who after many rumours decided to leave the server. Amongst some of them is the real identity of GM's and Admins that lead to a fiasco. I don't need to say anymore, have fun covering your tracks.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 12:09 PM
/shrug, I no longer GM there, and I do not need a reason to "hide tracks." I was a player named Praeline and I recently quit. I had hidden my identity to allow my significant other to play in peace, without being harassed and ridiculed. However, since that relationship no longer exists, there is no more need to hide that fact.

(As you can see Serenity, I'm not Joule, but I very much do admire her personality and her strengths. Alas I am not like her though :/)

The other reason was because some players had known me on a personal level and had my cell phone number. Of which when my identity was given out, that number was also leaked to others. Which was a big fiasco since some people decided it was fun to call and threaten me. I had reported it to the police, and then changed my phone number.

"People will believe, what they want to believe."

And it is very true in this case.

What else am I trying to cover up? I will answer everything to the best of my ability as I have stated previously. But it seems as though many of your thoughts Ymir, are very mistaken and I'd like to help clarify. But I can understand if you don't believe me.

PS. You may probably wonder why I'm lurking here and responding to this so much. It is because I am at work, and normally, I would be responding to tickets or forum questions on Anthem's forums while at work (XD), but since I am no longer a GM there, I no longer do that. But I do continue to believe in the work that Talis has put into the server. And although I do not believe in some of the things that the Debbie era staff had done (allegedly, since I did not see first hand once again), I am forever grateful for the friendships I had made during that time that the server was around for me to play on.

Edit again:

Kind of sad really, because the reason I quit GMing is so that I can concentrate on work and RL issues, but I end up here "working" for the server again so to speak :/ Perhaps I should ask JJJ to ban me >_>;; (Now I kind of know what you feel like AceJay. Sort of. But I'm still not going to post CP >:( )
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 02:11 PM
Lol, thanks Serenity :)

That's why when Anthem came about, I had the "Save the World" project (The Hunger Site & other partner sites) I wanted to get going in Anima implemented. I don't know if you remember that project I wanted to get going at all back when I was a player, but hey, at least those clicks count towards something that is bigger than the RO world.

I know I may not have swayed many people, such as that of Ymir, but at least I know that some of my work done as a GM has made an impact somewhere. And at least, it's somewhere that really, really counts.



Edit by JJJ: Removed the stupid pointless links
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Jan 28, 2009, 02:52 PM
Haha Justin I thought you knew. Anyway, loli isn't CP, and I sure as hell wouldn't post real CP anywhere, ever. That's messed up. Honestly with all the ecchi-loli sigs around I didn't think it'd be THAT offensive. There were only like 6 views on that topic, so it's not like it "scarred millions of poor, unsuspecting youngsters." My goal was nothing like that, it was simply to get myself banned. That was the easiest method I could come up with that I hadn't already tried.

But yeah Kim, now you know how I felt :(

Quote from: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 02:11 PMSave the World

lolol stolen from sows /heh
Quote from: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 12:09 PMallegedly, since I did not see first hand once again

It did happen, I picked up a few SQIs and awesome stuff in the Tool Dealer Shop in Pront by (I'm assuming) Calbee.

Also, yeah, Anima and Anthem gained most of its player base through word of mouth. Anima had a large population to start with, and when TheAnimaRO became AnimaRO under Debbie and them all, players started telling their friends about Anima.
I remember being in class one day, long ago, with Chioki and another player who used to play a lot, I asked them what they were playing and they said it was "Ragnarok Online." I thought it looked pretty cool, so I joined.
Later that day, on an old message board I used to visit, a topic popped up about RO. I said that I played and gave my IGN, then someone asked me "What server?" to which I replied, "I thought there was only one"

/heh

I didn't know that Anima was a p-server of iRO.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 03:02 PM
That part I know happened, I was there for that Paul, however, I was talking about Debbie days stuff. I was just a player then and didn't know anything. I heard rumors, but never was around to know exactly what happened.

From what I know and saw, Calbee during Debbie era, moved items over to his personal account(s). Which he was careful and used different proxies (to register his account/passwords/email address so it was harder to track him. However, his in game IP did not change. So what I saw was him creating items, then dropping them for himself to pick up with his personal account(s).

From there the items were dropped in Prontera and various other places, which caused many issues. And then I, along with several other staff members had to go and retrieve them. Luckily, I didn't have a job at the time so I had time on my hands to do this XD;;

But, like I said, that's what I saw from logs back then. I remember speaking to Faith about it (or Shia?) and they said they didn't quite believe me that it was Calbee. Maybe I'm remembering that part incorrectly, it was a long time ago.

I still see loli as CP though :/ Still messed up stuff >_>;

And yep, taken from sows XD Chris and Eddie are good friends of mine, and they both have good hearts :) I haven't visited that site for a long time though, since the divorce really.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Jan 28, 2009, 04:35 PM
Eddie's a busta and still owes me the SAME $120 from November 2007 >:( he's so lazy wtf

Also, eh, at least I'm not a furry HUR HUR HURRRRRR.

I really miss when I first started Anima, with Orphan, the town's bard, playing in Pront, parties, and all the fun events.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/AceJay/Motivation/EXALL.jpg) lol

Remember this? http://arodaily.blogspot.com/

And while googling for that WTFFFFFFF:
http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.anthemro.com
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Jan 28, 2009, 04:46 PM
He's back in town :X Maybe I'll try and heckle him some if I do see him. Which I should since, well, I'm giving him my old bed frame o.o; And furries are scary :/

That being said though, I don't really miss those times. They're done and over with, I'm moving on (or trying to!)

And that site you linked is complete BS lol, I think DDRFreak.com gets more traffic and it's worth less? o_O And I really doubt anyone would even pay that much for AnthemRO's ... domain? Website? Regardless, to me, it's priceless @_@
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Jan 28, 2009, 04:49 PM
Lol, my site is worth $312 /sob
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: ADDFurret on Jan 28, 2009, 07:45 PM
Quote from: bleu on Jan 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
@Denia or any AnthemRO players I guess


May I ask, how does AnthemRO attracts "new players"? I don't mean players like Zone. I call those returning players. Like many former official server players, we have no clue about the AnimaRO/AnthemRO saga which must have made headlines among the PS community. What's so special and unique about AnthemRO? It can't be its up-to-date episodes; its behind official and other eAthena based servers. I am just curious, what are the key factors which attract "new players" to AnthemRO? How does AnthemRO differentiate itself from other servers? What does AnthemRO claims to have which other servers does not offer and could not easily replicate?


p/s I am not sure if its out of topic. The subject just says AnthemRO and its under the server review section. Very curious.

Well one thing I noticed from other eAthena Server is that when you download AnthemRO for the first time it actually works? XD True some people manage to screw up their download, but the Staff and players are willing to jump on your case like a Panther on a bunny.

We are stable and also 99% bot free.(some people can slip by from time to time but they are quickly eradicated)

Hmmmmm what else?..............................................................................................We have mature players?(I don't count)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Akina on Jan 28, 2009, 11:06 PM
I'm not going to bother reading every post in this thread ( I've read some )
AnthemRO forums , I don't love them anymore due to the changes but they're still alright. Ingame is another story , I'm still playing and will continue playing for as long as it's up and running. I always find something to do , whether it's talking ,Pvm or mvping. I love Anthemro.
   Zap and the others are working on new things to better the server which I think is great.
I've been playing for 3 years and in these past months they've launched more updates than others did in the past years. ( Working their little butts off for the players) That says something about the team AnthemRO has now I would think.
The community is alright , there's many willing to help the new players and there are also those who are complete pricks.

  PvP is not for chatting so if you get killed by some random sinx with edp and the works , don't go crying to the ranters thread on Anthem.  ;)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Hexaea on Feb 01, 2009, 12:39 PM
Hmm.

I've played aRO on and off for ages now, and to be honest, as much s*** as I can list as reasons to hate the server, I still love it.

When I think about the server, I really don't have much nice to say, never had.
"QQing" is sadly all I do on any server; not agreeing with how it's run ever there, etc etc.

The community of aRO is another story.
While I hate alot of people, I have made alot of good friends there.
The server is full of pricks, but also alot of cool people.
That's pretty much why I have never been able to leave, the people of aRO.
I've talked to a few people who agree, that's probably why most of the people still stay there.

What pisses me off though, is what they're doing to the forums...
I loved the forums there, lurked 24/7, trolled people I hated, discussed srs bsns, posted random s***.
Truly great forum... Err, well, *was* a great forum.
I wont get into all that here though.


I'll just leave it at this:
Server - (B) Good enough to play on.

Staff - (NA) Well, I just don't like them; I can't not be biased.  Maybe they're nice people outside of being a GM, but as the staff...

Balance - (F) Too much seperation between the rich and poor(donate/gold dig/spend years farming, before you get anywhere), gear is f*** up bad, etc etc.

Players - (A) Full of pricks, elitists, trolls, dumbasses, and then strait up awesome people.  Through all the s***, you will make good friends there.

If you're a hardcore RO player, then you'll need deep pockets(or you're free for the next few years) to play here; and the deeper your pockets, the more fun you'll have.
But if you're a social person, who doesn't take RO too seriously, you should like it there.


Oh and @Akina: PvP is so for chatting.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Feb 01, 2009, 03:50 PM
Quote from: Hexaea on Feb 01, 2009, 12:39 PMOh and @Akina: PvP is so for chatting.

Hell yeah. At least, it used to be, in Forest/Private PVP.

Also I would probaby have to say if you are a rich person you will have more fun here than on any other server, guaranteed. Not rich? Not as fun, but there is still a good amount of fun to be had on a semi-large server such as Anthem.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Feb 01, 2009, 09:05 PM
Quote from: Hexaea on Feb 01, 2009, 12:39 PM
Hmm.

I've played aRO on and off for ages now, and to be honest, as much s*** as I can list as reasons to hate the server, I still love it.

When I think about the server, I really don't have much nice to say, never had.
"QQing" is sadly all I do on any server; not agreeing with how it's run ever there, etc etc.

The community of aRO is another story.
While I hate alot of people, I have made alot of good friends there.
The server is full of pricks, but also alot of cool people.
That's pretty much why I have never been able to leave, the people of aRO.
I've talked to a few people who agree, that's probably why most of the people still stay there.

What pisses me off though, is what they're doing to the forums...
I loved the forums there, lurked 24/7, trolled people I hated, discussed srs bsns, posted random s***.
Truly great forum... Err, well, *was* a great forum.
I wont get into all that here though.


I'll just leave it at this:
Server - (B) Good enough to play on.

Staff - (NA) Well, I just don't like them; I can't not be biased.  Maybe they're nice people outside of being a GM, but as the staff...

Balance - (F) Too much seperation between the rich and poor(donate/gold dig/spend years farming, before you get anywhere), gear is f*** up bad, etc etc.

Players - (A) Full of pricks, elitists, trolls, dumbasses, and then strait up awesome people.  Through all the s***, you will make good friends there.

If you're a hardcore RO player, then you'll need deep pockets(or you're free for the next few years) to play here; and the deeper your pockets, the more fun you'll have.
But if you're a social person, who doesn't take RO too seriously, you should like it there.


Oh and @Akina: PvP is so for chatting.

Sup Dew.

The only thing I'll have to say regarding the whole forum deal, was that it got too out of control. And while it was not my idea, I had to do what I was told to do. We couldn't just have people posting and asking if other males are "circumsized or not" or if people "shaved their pubes." Because of that, I was told to take care of it. Of course, regardless, the blame falls upon me for just doing what my superiors tell me to do. Majority of those who fall into that category of QQing about the forums, are those who take part in threads such as that. Or take part in the flaming and bashing of another player. In my eyes, it's just clean up.

Regarding being rich or not, I believe I donated, while I was playing, a total of $100 (including ad credits/votes/sponsors) back in Debbie days, which was enough to get me a kaho. The rest was buying/selling/trading over and over and over until I got myself a full set of items which gave me IC. Of course, it was hard to do, but it didn't take well over a year or more just to get there. It was a whole lot of vending haha. From then on, earned myself partnerships and worked hard towards getting other items and such. But that's another story.

Then again, I wouldn't describe myself as a hard core RO person at all when I played. 
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 02, 2009, 02:42 AM
Quote from: Akina on Jan 28, 2009, 11:06 PM
PvP is not for chatting so if you get killed by some random sinx with edp and the works , don't go crying to the ranters thread on Anthem.  ;)

LOL yeah that was fun~ We gotta set up a new time to rape PVP again like last time xD

@Everyone else: Damn it you people post to much :(

Quote from: Hexaea on Feb 01, 2009, 12:39 PM
Balance - (F) Too much seperation between the rich and poor(donate/gold dig/spend years farming, before you get anywhere), gear is f*** up bad, etc etc.

Years? If you lazy or don't play then sure it'll take years to get good gears. I'm not gonna bother posting my response to making zeny since I did back on like page 2-3. Donations didn't mess up the server balance, SQIs did. Before SQIs was made/were used, my rogue owned people and I only owned 2-3 mvp gears at most. I say we ban SQIs ^__________^ j/k
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Elements on Feb 02, 2009, 10:59 AM
Hey, Denia.
Don't forget your little stint as Tiramisu.
You know I never had anything against you, and all that stuff in the past (Thinking of Aki/You.) was really just me f***ing around ;p
Whatever happened to that ticket I sent in, where I got scammed ;(? You promised you'd look into it, but nothing.

Ah well, reading thru this topic, I remember everything, haha. Minus Serenity's stuff, because really, he just spits useless talk most of the time. (IIRC The Debbie Incident, where he made that video talking about how he was bestest bro's with Debbie. I don't recall that AT ALL lol. Nor does Sachi, or anyone back then.)
Or how he went on and on, talking about how "GM's got -hero potions-!"

Psssh.

But I didn't come on here to insult Serenity, so I should just drop that.
Fun reminiscing on the old times though, eh? Shame it had to go down like it did.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Feb 02, 2009, 11:18 AM
Yes, I did promise I'd look into it. But someone else handled it so it's not like I was going to "steal it away" from the GM working on it, to pull in this bit of favoritism to work on your ticket.

But lol @ trying to toss names out there.

Regarding the whole Aki/Me thing, it was never appreciated by any of us, but yet you kept harassing us anyways >_>; yeah, to you, it was just messing around, but it wasn't something that we were comfortable with, and it was let known to you. But you kept doing it anyways >_>;;; To the point of it being sexually harassing (I think that's what Aki felt it was). The rest of the time I just didn't like it and asked you to stop; but you never did stop. Just like how I had told you to leave another player alone, and you kept badgering that player anyways and tried to indirectly do so as well. See: attacking player in PVP with bare fists just to annoy and then say, "Don't talk to me."

I still see that banning as a justified one, since the guidelines were set down to you both, yet you were the one that went and crossed the line. It was all a matter of waiting to see who would since neither of you could leave the other alone, at least so it seemed from a 3rd party point of view. Besides, at least that other person never: Packeted/Force Warped people to places they couldn't get out of/Did mean things to other players just because they were bored/Broke rules over and over/ban evaded. All of which you did. A lot of players may have liked you, but you did break the guidelines we set out, and you laughed at the rules and continued to just try and walk on the line, instead of staying on one side of it.

As for Serenity, I don't know about the other stuff, but regarding the Hero Potions, when he mentioned them, I remember Talis telling me to look into wtf he was talking about, because neither of us knew of what Hero Potions were. Which, they indeed were real, and I believe Talis did disable them all. Much like how he disabled all the GM gear to not be trade/drop-able and fixed their stats so that they didn't really give any sort of "invincibility" at all. See: Ahura Mazdah, whatever that other weapon was, Foxy Stick/Foxy Plate (TalonRO GMs should know about these, I hope you guys disabled trade drop on these too).
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: pokket~ on Feb 02, 2009, 11:50 AM
Quote from: Elements on Feb 02, 2009, 10:59 AM
Alot

Why hai thar Craig, didn't we both? The only diffrence is that my E-fam gave me a Shîtload of gears when they heard I got banned, so I could just keep playing, elseway I woudn't be around anymore. Blah, you must miss aRO.


Offtopic: When were you planned to move over again?   :(

Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AceJay on Feb 02, 2009, 07:09 PM
Ahaha foxy...

Goddamn, good times.

e: Then again, if you're GOOD at RO, you could probably donate like $20 or even nothing at all and conquer the best guilds.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Elements on Feb 08, 2009, 03:54 PM
(Sorry to res a 6 day old topic.)

Quote from: pokket~ on Feb 02, 2009, 11:50 AM
Quote from: Elements on Feb 02, 2009, 10:59 AM
Alot

Why hai thar Craig, didn't we both? The only diffrence is that my E-fam gave me a Shîtload of gears when they heard I got banned, so I could just keep playing, elseway I woudn't be around anymore. Blah, you must miss aRO.


Offtopic: When were you planned to move over again?   :(

Haha, well, Mike lent me his account and stuff. But it just wasn't the same, considering it wasn't my gear. Nor anything I owned, so it was just meh.


@Denia: Yeah, I can see where your coming from with the ticket thing. However hard they worked on it, it was never answered. That was my main concern, but yeah, I respect the fact you actually can remember said incident. It shows you actually aren't **** around.

About everything else, yeah, pretty much nothing to say to that. It's common sense.
I just figured the -hero potions- were used more in Debbie's reign, than in Harken's, or Talis's for that matter.

Either way, we both know in the end, that neither I, nor Aryia were right. Yet I still had to be the only one to suffer for it.
I mean, you guys even stated in a ticket, that we'd both be banned. I'd sure as hell take that, over what happened, anyday.

-Did- he end up getting banned in the end..? Or..? I heard that he did, but eh, rumours can be misleading.

Sorry again, for ressing an older-ish topic.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Feb 09, 2009, 12:38 PM
You both were in the wrong, however, the whole thing was, "Either you guys stop harassing each other, or whomever crosses the line and harasses next, gets banned."

He didn't make that step, you did.

As for him getting banned, he did, but then got unbanned. I had stopped GMing at the time and Talis was the one that made the final decisions there. I wanted nothing to do with anything dealing with you or him after the whole ordeal. You both were a handful.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 10, 2009, 01:40 AM
Will you kids relax, this is a server review not a ticket case ;< PM each other or something.

ontopic: The server just had a massive Satan Morroc event, easily over 150 players trying to kill SM and all the spawns in the map. Was fun and tons of screenies were posted. It's in the event section if you do join up with us.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Feb 10, 2009, 11:19 AM
Sorry Will :<

Just responding to Elements since it'd look kind of bad on the server if a bunch of accusations and/or questions during my GMing are here in this thread and no one responds to it. Something that I think Debbie should have done during her time, rather than not care what others said :S
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 12, 2009, 09:13 PM
People been thinking bad about this server since even before Elements psoted, anything he says about the server won't make people think any less of it. (Even though aRO is hands down one of the best low rate servers out there)
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Christ on Feb 12, 2009, 09:51 PM
I will return to AnthemRO.
My 2nd Coming is soon.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 14, 2009, 09:14 AM
I've loved this server for.. As long as I can remember. I've been playing it since Anima, and I've no idea how many years on that. I'd say it's changed a lot. The events are fun, and most of the community is friendly. Recently I've been having a lot of problems with people kill stealing no matter where I go. Also, I've managed to be called every name under the sun for doing nothing wrong. I think the GM response time has started lagging a lot. Many reports don't get looked at for weeks, at the minimum. And all the complaints of support tickets, it's crazy. I'm becoming more and more disappointed in the server. I hope it pulls itself back up again. Not to mention the economy! I can't afford to buy any decent gears, because I end up spending all my zeny on one item, if I'm lucky.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Feb 14, 2009, 10:00 AM
Economy isn't the staff's fault though, that's the users who are greedy.
I remember logging in for 1 day and I saw MVP cards vending for nearly 40m
When usually they are under 20m, and if Ads are important, for such activities as christmas boxes, then people charge insane prices for ads.
Usually ads are 750k ea, during christmas, they peaked to 1.4m ea I believe.
That's a big reason why I don't play anymore, I don't plan on putting money into any servers anymore.
To me, donating is a waste of my money.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 14, 2009, 02:58 PM
I'm glad items cost more zeny, no point letting everyone get insane gears without paying a price.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Feb 14, 2009, 03:15 PM
Indeed, I'm just not willing to put thousand of dollars into a server anymore.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 14, 2009, 03:28 PM
But everyone does. And it limits those of us who DON'T have the money to donate constantly to get those gears, or the time to play constantly to earn that crazy amount of zeny. Honestly, the most money I've ever had at any point in the tgame was enough for a marriage, and half of that was from my friends donating zeny toward it. I can't level my knight anymore than she already is purely because I can't afford to get her gears that will keep her alive in Niff longer than 15 minutes. When my skills actually work.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Winnin813 on Feb 14, 2009, 08:51 PM
Quote from: BomberWill on Feb 14, 2009, 02:58 PM
I'm glad items cost more zeny, no point letting everyone get insane gears without paying a price.
I'm glad there's people willing to pay large amounts of money for minuscule things.

I need to make money somehow  :D
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 15, 2009, 05:29 PM
If you know where to make zeny, its possible to make 5-10m an hour. Hell I used to make 5-6m in 20 minutes when I actually cared about making zeny =X
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 16, 2009, 10:35 AM
And what level were you when you were doing this?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Feb 18, 2009, 01:57 AM
99 o.o It's called working at getting good to get better stuff. It's not like a 1/1 novice should expect to gain zeny at my level. I started out just like everyone who don't donate using npc gears to level. Eventually I started donating but what I donated is like 1% of my current wealth. I already said over 9000 times how easy is it to make zeny in aRO and yet to no suprise everyone seems to ignore it.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Feb 18, 2009, 10:33 AM
It's easier now because of Moscovia.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 19, 2009, 04:27 PM
How can I make money when I'm spending it all on healing items because I can't afford better gears because of the first part of this sentence?
As much as I LOVE Gonryun, I really can't stand to go around the field for any more straight months. I'm sorry, I know I'm horrible and a crap player because I want it to be fun to play instead of the horrible pain it's getting to be.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: bleu on Feb 20, 2009, 05:25 PM
@AsuEdo

Just wondering how rich are you? And how long have you been playing? Do other new players face the same problem - unable to establish themselves and catch up? The other day I was at this big low rate server, they had merchants vending in every town selling empty bottles, poison spores, stems, cactus needles, blue herbs, immortal hearts, etc... (you name it, someone is selling it somewhere). The vending prices are decent, easy enough for new players to farm those items and accumulate some zeny to buy start-up gears like pantie/undershirt set for my lvl30 thief (costing me a total of 70k - whole set)


General
How rich are other players in comparison? And how did they managed to accumulate such massive wealth? How is it that AsuEdo is struggling to make zeny, while other players like Bomber boast of making 5-6million in 20 minutes - this is so very confusing?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
Donating to get items. That's how most people do it. But I'm not going to spend my money on in-game items.

I've got about a grand total of.. 4k on my knight. I think. Between all my characters, I might have 200k, but that's because of the bit I've got left on my merchant. I think a lot of people make money vending, but to do that you've got to leave your computer up all the time. That's fine, I have no problem in doing it, but recently my mother has taken to pretending she knows how to navigate the web, and turns the whole thing off every time. Even after I said something to her. -_-

The selection of items from vendors is mostly gears, and things like that (pots, meats, etc). I think the cheapest I've seen a pair of regular Kaho's selling for was 74m.

And really, if I wanted to farm cake all my life I could go to Niff and make a lot of money. But after all the nubs and the KSing and the botting, why would I want to go to TF anymore than I have to?

And I'm still waiting on my items from the Chinese New Year event. She told us to PM her our IGN's (which is funny because mine is in half my screenshots, aside from being at the top of every single one) which I did. And.. I've gotten nothing. I think she updated the list today, and my name is still on it for not having given an IGN. I'm just paranoid about bothering people too much, especially GMs. Think I should PM her AGAIN?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: bleu on Feb 20, 2009, 11:20 PM
Quote from: AsuEdo on Feb 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
Donating to get items. That's how most people do it. But I'm not going to spend my money on in-game items.

Remember what Bomberwill said. Donation only represent about 1% of his total wealth. That means, it's not the way they got rich. There must have been other factors which you have not considered.


Quote from: AsuEdo on Feb 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
I've got about a grand total of.. 4k on my knight. I think. Between all my characters, I might have 200k, but that's because of the bit I've got left on my merchant.

How long have you been playing on that server to accumulate a measly 200k? And btw, what can you buy which is reasonably useful for 200k? U have a knight rite, ... maybe a a Grand Peco card with an armor? or a Cranial Shield of some sort to do High Orcs killing? or a nice elemental spear? or elemental two handed sword?
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Feb 21, 2009, 09:57 AM
No.

And I've been playing for years. At least 3.
I'll admit, there have been points where I've had a decent amount, but the most money I've ever had at one time was for my marriage, and no more. And half of that was from friends.

And he might have donated $100, and then just raped the server with the equips he got. That could make the $100 only 1%.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Denia on Feb 21, 2009, 01:59 PM
Quote from: AsuEdo on Feb 20, 2009, 11:14 PM
Donating to get items. That's how most people do it. But I'm not going to spend my money on in-game items.

I've got about a grand total of.. 4k on my knight. I think. Between all my characters, I might have 200k, but that's because of the bit I've got left on my merchant. I think a lot of people make money vending, but to do that you've got to leave your computer up all the time. That's fine, I have no problem in doing it, but recently my mother has taken to pretending she knows how to navigate the web, and turns the whole thing off every time. Even after I said something to her. -_-

The selection of items from vendors is mostly gears, and things like that (pots, meats, etc). I think the cheapest I've seen a pair of regular Kaho's selling for was 74m.

And really, if I wanted to farm cake all my life I could go to Niff and make a lot of money. But after all the nubs and the KSing and the botting, why would I want to go to TF anymore than I have to?

And I'm still waiting on my items from the Chinese New Year event. She told us to PM her our IGN's (which is funny because mine is in half my screenshots, aside from being at the top of every single one) which I did. And.. I've gotten nothing. I think she updated the list today, and my name is still on it for not having given an IGN. I'm just paranoid about bothering people too much, especially GMs. Think I should PM her AGAIN?

Meh, you should PM her again and tell her you've already given her your IGN? If she says anything snippy to you, report it to Talis :[
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Patapon on Feb 21, 2009, 06:19 PM
Why is this thread still open?  It's no longer really about the review and it's talking about the server.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Zone on Feb 21, 2009, 07:11 PM
It's been converted to a new subject.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Tadashi on Feb 22, 2009, 06:53 AM
I am actually surprise by the fact that Debbie's mum sue Harken?

Anyway, I played on the server for about 3 years+. What keep people there are the friends. There are so many test server out there and the friendly community is what keep people there.

As for the lag, it rarely lag anywhere maybe beside skellington. -.-"
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Scyth on Feb 24, 2009, 07:13 PM
Quote from: Tadashi on Feb 22, 2009, 06:53 AM
Anyway, I played on the server for about 3 years+. What keep people there are the friends. There are so many test server out there and the friendly community is what keep people there.

I'll vouch for this. I played at Anima/Anthem for a year, my first private server for any game. For any other game, the grind would have killed it almost instantly for me, but yet I was able to level up a knight to the mid 80s before quitting, and only because my guild soon fell apart and I lost any reason to keep playing (my attempts to bring up the guild on my own fell apart from a lack of free time to play). However, even two years later I still hang around their forums.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Mar 01, 2009, 02:29 AM
Been a while since I checked up here =P

@AsuEdo: "And he might have donated $100, and then just raped the server with the equips he got. That could make the $100 only 1%."

wat?

Back on topic: AsuEdo, if you played for 3 years or so, you should have a level 80 character AT LEAST o_O Hell maybe even a trans char by now. I am near my 3rd year in aRO and I own 13 trans (one of each trans at level 90+) and about 10 more nontrans at level 85+. Piece of cake vends for 3000-3400z range last I checked. If you hunt 100 piece of cakes that would be an easy 300k+. It takes 1-2 hours tops to hunt that many cakes and if you have a thief class, you can steal and reduce the time by a bit. There is also stuff like card hunting and SQI ingredient hunting to make zeny.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: AsuEdo on Mar 01, 2009, 09:15 AM
What I was saying is if you donated $100, then made a ridiculous amount of zeny afterward, eventually that amount would become a smaller and smaller percentage of your total "earnings" in the game.

I have a lvl 93 knight. Really though, if I had the time to sit around and farm cake all my life I would do it. Honestly, it's a complete waste of time. I want the game to be fun, not the same thing over and over and over again. I don't know about the 13 trans you have, but you must have a LOT of extra time on your hands. I, on the other hand, go to school 6 hours a day, spend time with people IRL, do homework, and at the end I've got, well, limited time to do things on RO. I could cut my friends out of the equation and add several more hours to the RO-time, but come on. It's the fact that I've got to donate my entire life to the game to get anywhere in it that bugs me. And the fact that I've PMed Yuyuko twice and gotten nothing for it.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Mar 01, 2009, 06:27 PM
lol I was in college when i made those chars. o_O It doesnt take a long time to make chars hell i could make a lvl 99 nontrans char in 3-4 days if i wanted to and thats not even playing all day. Magic classes could 99 in a heartbeat and people been saying crusaders are easy to level also with minimal gears (as in NPC gears).

QuoteWhat I was saying is if you donated $100, then made a ridiculous amount of zeny afterward, eventually that amount would become a smaller and smaller percentage of your total "earnings" in the game.

So whats your point? o_o What I donated is a really small percent compared to what I made ingame by hunting items, leeching,etc. You don't need to donate to become rich in aRO. It's called being lazy if you can't do it ._.

QuoteReally though, if I had the time to sit around and farm cake all my life I would do it. Honestly, it's a complete waste of time. I want the game to be fun, not the same thing over and over and over again.

This is what sets us apart. I was willing to do the repetative things on a daily basis to get rich. aRO is fun for me but I did do the boring things to get aRO to be as exciting as it was for me. I spend countless numbers of hours in lh3 hunting Poison Bottles for my SinX just so I can waste it all in PVP and WoE. I spend hours making Condensed White Potions just to use in WoE. Its fun going to PVP wasting like 10m zeny in stuff just to go back the next day and do it again <3

As for Yuyuko, if PM isnt working just make a topic about it but don't be rude about it.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Cielte on Mar 01, 2009, 06:29 PM
Why is this still opened? It's two people talking about something they can talk about over MSN, or in PM's. It's not even related to the review now.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Mar 01, 2009, 06:36 PM
Quote from: Kozua Nekiem on Mar 01, 2009, 06:29 PM
Why is this still opened? It's two people talking about something they can talk about over MSN, or in PM's. It's not even related to the review now.

My topic and the convo has to do with aRO economy o_o
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Yuyuko on Mar 03, 2009, 02:27 AM
Quote from: AsuEdo on Mar 01, 2009, 09:15 AM
What I was saying is if you donated $100, then made a ridiculous amount of zeny afterward, eventually that amount would become a smaller and smaller percentage of your total "earnings" in the game.

I have a lvl 93 knight. Really though, if I had the time to sit around and farm cake all my life I would do it. Honestly, it's a complete waste of time. I want the game to be fun, not the same thing over and over and over again. I don't know about the 13 trans you have, but you must have a LOT of extra time on your hands. I, on the other hand, go to school 6 hours a day, spend time with people IRL, do homework, and at the end I've got, well, limited time to do things on RO. I could cut my friends out of the equation and add several more hours to the RO-time, but come on. It's the fact that I've got to donate my entire life to the game to get anywhere in it that bugs me. And the fact that I've PMed Yuyuko twice and gotten nothing for it.

You don't have to donate your life at it. People think that MMOs are the quick way to gain satisfaction. I think that if you don't have as much to invest in it, then take it slow. I don't have a SQI, and I have been playing for a long time. If not the longest time in the server

Also, immediately after the event ended, I tried PMing all the winners every single day. You werent online, thus I eventually gave up. If you catch me online, I would be more than happy to get your items. As long that list exist, your prize can never expire.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: neKxus on Mar 19, 2009, 10:00 AM
Just registered for RMS, but played AnthemRO since AnimaRO.  All the claims of GM corruption and blah blah really stray far away from the overall gameplay I cherish here.  The players, guild battles, and fun I've enjoyed through the past few years has never been surpassed in any MMO I've tried out.  I played a few other servers, but there were constant lag issues, or the server would easily get hacked into and all my hard work destroyed.  SEVERAL times.  I would rather there be a little bit of background corruption than 3 weeks of work getting nullified and the GMs trying to cover for it by giving me free stuff.   I don't really care for any of that.

All the QQing about it being hard to survive because it's a "donation" server is bullcrap cause you don't need to donate sht to get anywhere.  You just gotta grind it out..  In total over almost 3 years playing I've donated a TOTAL of $100 at most.  This server is alot of fun, and has done some excellent updates for the players.  NOW, I get very little lag, that isn't caused by my own crappy desktop.  I can tell the difference between comp lag, and internet lag.

If you're looking for a server where the GMs care about the players, and the players love the server, then this server is where you want to be.  Coming from a regular player, who doesn't care for all the background crap.  I just love having fun, and don't care about GM E-Peens.  IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FUN, ANTHEMRO MIGHT BE FOR YOU!!   :D

Quote from: AsuEdo on Mar 01, 2009, 09:15 AM
What I was saying is if you donated $100, then made a ridiculous amount of zeny afterward, eventually that amount would become a smaller and smaller percentage of your total "earnings" in the game.

I have a lvl 93 knight. Really though, if I had the time to sit around and farm cake all my life I would do it. Honestly, it's a complete waste of time. I want the game to be fun, not the same thing over and over and over again. I don't know about the 13 trans you have, but you must have a LOT of extra time on your hands. I, on the other hand, go to school 6 hours a day, spend time with people IRL, do homework, and at the end I've got, well, limited time to do things on RO. I could cut my friends out of the equation and add several more hours to the RO-time, but come on. It's the fact that I've got to donate my entire life to the game to get anywhere in it that bugs me. And the fact that I've PMed Yuyuko twice and gotten nothing for it.

I work 6-days a week, and have a newborn son.  I lead the guild Loyalty within AnthemRO.  No one forces you to play an MMO, if you want to get anywhere in the game, play it!  Lol, maybe MMO's aren't for you?  You say it like games need to make it easier for you cause you have a life, when in reality, you have too much of a life for this type of video game!  Nothing to be sad about, it's a good thing bud.   :D  BTW, for some people, this is what they like to do.  IE, leveling a character up, buildingg his/her gears, and meeting new people throughout the server and around the world.
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Yoda on Mar 19, 2009, 10:58 PM
Quote from: AsuEdo on Mar 01, 2009, 09:15 AM
What I was saying is if you donated $100, then made a ridiculous amount of zeny afterward, eventually that amount would become a smaller and smaller percentage of your total "earnings" in the game.

I have a lvl 93 knight. Really though, if I had the time to sit around and farm cake all my life I would do it. Honestly, it's a complete waste of time. I want the game to be fun, not the same thing over and over and over again. I don't know about the 13 trans you have, but you must have a LOT of extra time on your hands. I, on the other hand, go to school 6 hours a day, spend time with people IRL, do homework, and at the end I've got, well, limited time to do things on RO. I could cut my friends out of the equation and add several more hours to the RO-time, but come on. It's the fact that I've got to donate my entire life to the game to get anywhere in it that bugs me. And the fact that I've PMed Yuyuko twice and gotten nothing for it.

@offtopic/notRO  Play World of Warcraft.  I play a couple hours a day only and I'm thoroughly entertained by not only everything to do and explore, but the people as well....
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: BomberWill on Mar 25, 2009, 11:05 PM
This topic review is a bit outdated. When I have time, I need to redo this. Keep your comments coming in though =P
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: Magnus the Exorcist on Apr 04, 2009, 11:01 PM
well the number of online players now barely reach 500 and if u count the shops u will have about... -150? -200 players really doing something?

many players and some guilds left already or only play woe (not aways tho)

a funny thing i noticed... yesterday the negative ratings about this server was deleted. now u only find good ratings... some wasnt bad like flaming or breaking any rating rules but still gone.

hope no more drama start because this will now affect the RMS credibility and trustworthy.   :-\
Title: Re: AnthemRO
Post by: A92FL0163 on Apr 04, 2009, 11:33 PM
Quote from: Magnus the Exorcist on Apr 04, 2009, 11:01 PM
drama start because this will now affect the RMS credibility and trustworthy.   :-\

wut.