Server: AnimaRo
Rates 5/5/3
Time played: 9 months or so
General
First of all, the server is run off a donation ad system. You do ads, free trial offers, or paid offers and those companies pay the server, and the server gives you "ads" redeemed into MVP items. As you can imagine, this creates a gigantic class imbalance. The GMs themselves admit the imbalance but deny it when the ad system topic is bought up. (They will do this a lot). If you are looking for quality PvPing, you will not find it here. If you use any sort of magic, someone will pull a Golden Thief Bug on you, kill you, and say something retarded like "pwned noob". Due to massive amount of custom MVP cards too (+20% to all types, +65 damage weapon cards, +50% HP boot card, +10 def armor card, ), sins/sinx are one of the easiest classes to PvP with and is the most overplayed class. The player base quality is EXTREMELY low, with less and less mature vets and more and more beggars/exploiters/KSers and the occasional player who throws in lots of real cash to try to talk smack. They also add this ad incentive to vote for the top 100 lists, which is the reason why you see this server on several Top Lists.
Balance
Horrid. Aside from the massive availability of MVP cards, and some of the custom cards I describe above, the GMs attempted to make SQIs (Super Quest Items). Champs on this server do up to 25000 damage Throw Spirit Spheres with a 20000 asura on a fully reduced target, Lord Knights do up to 17000 Spiral Pierce, etc etc (Average HP is usually 12k [spellcasters] to 21[stalkers] to near 30k for Paladin/LKs. Any player input directed at the GMs are typically ignored. The ones in charge of balance are extremely elitist in nature, and will throw theory at you and will attempt to fit in an insult on your player skill if you question their designs. In fact, one select top GM has engaged in many flame fights with players and had to be told to tone down by their own player forum moderators
GM Corruption
Aside from the unprofessionalism I mentioned above, the GMs have engaged in completely selfish behavior. A while ago, they helped their favorite players and friends by giving them top gears, leveling help, botting programs, and such. Several GMs , include the server owner, created a bot army of 99 trans with top gears to rule WoE. Many veterans quit because of this. There were also other players that were on good terms with GMs and allowed to bot, and given bot exemption from the resident GM bot hunter. The GMs and Players who exposed this were banned and silenced. The Top GM (Debbie), being a longterm bot program writer for OpenKore, created a champ with top gears, auto bot aim lockon, and programs to autoswitch armor and regain asura status at maximum speed. It was reported many times for botting but as it was the GM's own playtoy, it was always claimed to be "legit" by the other GMs. Since then, the leftover helped players are either GMs now themselves or have been given namechanges so they could meld it. Due to this, there are massive amounts of corrupt gear on the server. Due to the utter denial of any wrongdoing, these botted chaacters and equips were never removed. As you can imagine, this caused a massive exodus of veterans
GMs in General
The top 2 GMs give the fascade of being 2 female players who like each other. Pathetically, most of the newer players believe them and constantly support them due to the female status. The owner, GM Debbie was exposed as a male and a RO bot program writer, but anyone who said this was banned too. There are several other GMs, but they generally just cause lag with lame events or massive unorganized summonings.
Partying
Nearly nonexistent. Due to custom MVP cards, almost everyone is a soloer. No high level players party except for Lighthalzen and Odin. If you are looking for quality co-op, you won't find it here. Due to the extremely solo nature, WoE is extremely lacking in cooperation even among top tier guilds. People make a lot of 1vs1 classers and very few people play support classes, and fewer play it well
Friendly Server? Hardly
Despite the claims on the front page to remove disruptive players, the GMs actually do very little to stop them, unless they are blatantly yelling racist remarks repeatly. They will let botters and rule violators out if they pay an ad payment, usually with a namechange to prevent repeat reportings too. Hardly any violators will actually be ever removed. Also, they will let players flame at each other but in their own words, they want rivalries as rivalries create more donations for them.
Lag
Lag is a constant problem. There are lag spikes everywhere, in PvP, leveling, WoE. You can't complain about this because once you do, tons of people who are in love with the illusion of female game player GMs will flame you hard, and in groups.
Conclusion: I don't really have to make one. Unless you want to throw in some money and get an instant power house character so you can trashtalk, don't join.
i agree this server turned into a chaotic RO ads MARKET
1$ ads = 341k zeni that s al they think about nowadays :/
1$ ads = 341k zeni?
anyway, thanks for an indepth review.
yep if u go to your forum and look at their sigs u will see things like
buy ads 1$ads/340k zeny :/
To add , just about everything claimed on the front page is false
1) My server is 100% FREE! Most of the servers out there are charging a monthly fee that most of us cannot afford
Wrong. Just about every RO private server is free. To pay for the ads, most high levels players, even though they do not admit it, will be donating. There is also a massive amount of ad fraud, but since it generates the server extra money, they generally don't care unless their advertisers complain.
2) You will rarely lag or get disconnected.
One quick look on forums and you'll realize both are completely untrue. This is one of the laggiest servers I have ever been on. Only when do people actually start leaving, do they use the massive profit they earn on ads to upgrade. And yes, they do make a massive profit. I had people who used to run servers estimate costs for porportion to server size. ARO makes WAY more than that.
3) We only allow the best people on our staff
For those of you who have actually been here, here's what the GM quality looks like
Top 2 GMs - One is an ex botter/exploiter on other servers, one is his elitist theory throwing friend. Both pretend to be females and exploit this (They write how cute the other is, and how "she can strip me anytime") It draws massive sympathy from the usual dumb player. Pure s*** as their identities were revealed. Besides you have to be an UTTER RETARD to believe two girls who like each other run a private game server.
Tech GM - His testing of SQIs include running around with +10 gears and GM stats and finding players to kill in PvP. He is also extremely elitist and takes zero player feedback.
Support GMs - the only decent one left. The others will heavily advertise any work they actually do but in essence most ppl go unpunished. Because they make it a big deal everytime they do ANYTHING, players think they are awesome. Oh yeah plus they are mostly female sprites probably for the same reason as the Main GMs, to draw sympathy.
Ex GMs - Let's see you have the GMs who created a bot army. You have GMs who were dismissed to cover for the head GM's own botting. You have GMs who were fired for exposing this. You have a few sub GMs who were friends with head GM from other server and used it to help themselves.
4) We are proactive in disciplining abusive players
As I said, they don't give a rats donkey. They let them out of prison with more ad payments or if it is dire, they make them pay a heavy fine for a name change. They let abusive rivalries go on until they feel like whipping out some power to make themselves feel better, even though they could have stopped it early
The Forums are a piece of crap by the way. They removed the Search function, Read Last Replies, Read Unread. In essence, it is nearly useless. You can't search for any old useful info (or old rants about corruption). Several players asked to upgrade the forum to a new format that is cleaner and faster running. When asked by some friends, the head GM just responded that this useless format cost him less money.
Oh by the way, the head GM Debbie recently bought EuphRO a new server. If you didn't hear about it, EuphRO became nortorious as the head GM was using the donation money for his drug fixes while the other GMs didn't really care about problems on the server and were pocketing hundreds a month for themselves. The EuphRO Ex-GM owes money to "Debbie" and now takes advice from him. Once again some ex EuphRO players exposed this to stop this massive scam server from emerging again but they were forum banned as well, even though people who the GM trust to tell have verified this as true.
Yeah animaRo is crap.. i know a heap of people who quit that server because it was so unbalanced and the Gm's were horrid.
ARO sucks, you need to donate loads of cash if you want to be good at anything, and even then there is imbalance.
well its funny that it has like a 40 and so many people play its because they are way lazy to find new s*** and look for better s*** its pathetic that people would stick to a server where you can barly move due to lag
and it isnt due to the dam people 1500-2000 im sick of hearing that s*** its all BULL s***
I've been loyal to AnimaRo for nearly a year now, watching them go through good and hard times.
Yet now, the unfriendliness of the community, is, slowly sapping my strength. I can only help out so many, and yet...
*sigh*
wow. i always knew something was up...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i used to play animaro o.o
there was this one situation where a guy questioned debbie about something being unfair then she banned him for a reason i didnt think was even true.. anyways. thanks for the info.
I heard that some of the AnimaRO's girl GMs are actually guys in real life.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 26, 2006, 10:30 PM
Besides you have to be an UTTER RETARD to believe two girls who like each other run a private game server.
While I am in NO WAY defending AnimaRO (I know absolutely nothing about it, being as I'm just a little role-play server owner), I have to refute this comment! FortunaRO was created by my ex-girlfriend and I! While I find it absolutely deplorable that people would fake their gender for personal gain, please do realize that lesbians -do- exist... and yes, some of us even play video games!
I'm sorry, but do you have any proof at all? I understand the ad fraud and some other stuff, but most of what you are saying is complete s***.
Question: Ads are open to everyone, so how does that create class imbalance? It doesnt.
Question: Do you know why GTB is implemented? Because if there were no GTB, then there would be no class except IC wizards.
Question: What do you mean by custom cards? +65 Atk is Incantation Samurai, +50% HP is Dark Lord? If that's different for other servers, please explain to me (I sincerely don't know. Anima was my first server..so yea)
Question: Where the hell do you get the proof that the GMs are corrupt?
Question: What other places do you co-op in besides LH3, Thanatos, or the really hard places?
Question: Support classes..? Got any idea how many priests there are in the game? I guess not.
And on final note. "Rats donkey" ... I've heard that somewhere on the forums, gonna have to look it up.
Posted on: December 11, 2006, 08:01:57 PM
Hm... I got "water dragon" in the topic "havent gone home for 7 years"
Question: If you were water dragon, were you offended by SB's post?
Quote from: MorganFortunaRO on Dec 11, 2006, 11:06 AM
Quote from: Senor on Oct 26, 2006, 10:30 PM
Besides you have to be an UTTER RETARD to believe two girls who like each other run a private game server.
While I am in NO WAY defending AnimaRO (I know absolutely nothing about it, being as I'm just a little role-play server owner), I have to refute this comment! FortunaRO was created by my ex-girlfriend and I! While I find it absolutely deplorable that people would fake their gender for personal gain, please do realize that lesbians -do- exist... and yes, some of us even play video games!
Agreed ^_^
But I don't find it hard to believe the animaRO were faking it. But she is right, it does exist.
I currently play on Anima, having played on iRO a long time ago..
The world and his wife have kaho's, my bf claims to have seen some which were incredibly highly customised today.
Lot's of people are very rude and have no respect for other players. I attempt to help out people where I can, but there's only so much I can take. I had someone ask me for one of my dopple cards today(!).
The ad system creates massive imbalance in the game - I'm in europe, and we can't get ad offers, so we can't get the items unless we spend real money, and the top items equal out to about çž¿150 worth of stuff. I'm not going to spend that amount of the limited funds I have to get gear. Luckily I have some nice friends based stateside who helped me get my gears, and I'm nowhere near superpowered (2 dopples and the morriganes set.) I give a lot of my stuff to people and lend gears and the like to my friends if they need/can use them.
Another problem is that europe based players get timegaps/pingouts/lagouts a hell of a lot more then everyone else.
No server is "free" - they just have to say that, to stop gravity suing them for making a profit. The amount they get in donations a month is probably enough to run the server several times over.
I stay away from the forums because of the amount of petty flaming that goes on. Reports I've done about disruptive players have so far been ignored because of my (probably) low post count on the forums.
I can see how being friends with a GM will work to your advantage. Most GM's will probably give stuff to people. (I wouldn't if I had the knowhow to run me own server, I'm not that much of a geek though.)
At the moment I'm ignoring the bad and playing as much as my boredom threshold (and the goddamn lag.) allows. I do hope it improves though or someone hits most of the players with the clue stick/maturity stick.
I dont know much of the politics of this server, but been playing it since early january last year and can say its gotten really laggy and no sense going pvp due to people pimped with custom kahos and SQI's -____-
Quote from: Anzi on Dec 11, 2006, 07:05 PM
I'm sorry, but do you have any proof at all? I understand the ad fraud and some other stuff, but most of what you are saying is complete s***.
Question: Ads are open to everyone, so how does that create class imbalance? It doesnt.
Question: Do you know why GTB is implemented? Because if there were no GTB, then there would be no class except IC wizards.
Question: What do you mean by custom cards? +65 Atk is Incantation Samurai, +50% HP is Dark Lord? If that's different for other servers, please explain to me (I sincerely don't know. Anima was my first server..so yea)
Question: Where the hell do you get the proof that the GMs are corrupt?
Question: What other places do you co-op in besides LH3, Thanatos, or the really hard places?
Question: Support classes..? Got any idea how many priests there are in the game? I guess not.
Ads: There is so much ad fraud that its not even funny. The Proof is in the admission of many top tier players who have admitted it, the massive amount of junk forum names formed, and 3 week people with 99 70 characters and 600 mil worth of equips
Custom cards as these cards are customized as what they do on the officials. It is mostly copied from a server called UltimaRO which all of the major GMs come from
I'm talking about playing support classes
well. I've been around all the top tier guilds and they do NOT play support classes well. This is taking the opinions of high level players, especially those from IRO.
Proof?
-Two of the GMs defected and gathered up proof of botting and logs. They were banned.
-Many of the directly helped players also spilled the beans, including those close to the GM as ex-teammates, friends, IRC chatters.
-Them themselves admitted in a post called "The Truth. No. For Real" "As many people have discovered, Debbie has ties to a very popular bot program and has produced a large amount of development code for that bot program. The larger truth is that most of the AnimaRO GM team members, past and present, are botters or bot developers."
-The head GM was a known exploiter and botter on other servers such as MobRO and UltimaRO. I've seen it myself and it was no secret at all to anyone who ever played there and seen the name Kanemi. Kanemi is also the name he used to try to email ex-UltimaRO players to join Animaro.
-Some of the helped players didn't even bother to keep it secret. They helped their guildies and didn't bother to hide it at all.
-Most of the first wave of players are gone. Why do you think? I talked to most of them. Nearly all of the first 99 awards, were hijacked by Debbie's player alias Kanemi who helped bot, and support team bot so they could win the 99 awards. Kanemi's friend Fae won 2 of them. Twinstar, who was also a botter, who I've seen myself, won another one, etc. They were also sick of fighting Bot Armies, which was ALSO admitted by GM Osaka
-One veteran (Windsong) took all the evidence and confronted Debbie as the owner of the Celestial 99 Bot armies, Philip Mak OpenKore bot developer, helper of Sovereign guild, owner of 1hit1kill, personal WoE bot assisted champ. Debbie admitted it. Windsong then quit and posted her collected evidence from many vets, ex-GMs but Debbie tried to put pressure to remove the site. It still can be read thru Google Cache by pressing cache:www.sitename.com for each page or you can go to http://www.ame-agari.net/animaro/truth/ and msg Windsong. Also to note: GM Faith, one of the helped players, tried to flame on the guest book, but didn't' deny anything. He just claimed something to the extent of - so what, it's worse on other servers
-Philip Mak was the Paypal account owner for paypal donations until the scandal appeared. Even now, there is a bastardization of the name Philip Mak for the Paypal holder as "Pat Mackey"
More Recent News:
-They will not ban mass donators, despite all the massive reporting they get.
-They banned 2 SQI packing players because they were too rowdy in PvP toward GM Eclipse's ex-wife. If you read any other complains that happen about PvP, the typical GM response is "It's PvP. Nothing can be taken seriously". They get a slap on the wrist- a very short mute at most. But you get a BAN for doing the same on his wife. GM Eclipse was known as an EXTREMELY female favoritism player when he was Zetsumei and Dawn. There was also a clown reported for botting multiple times called Zetsumei that fights for Panda squad - what a coincidence!
You want more stuff? There's pages of it. AnimaRo drove out 90% of the veterans because of s*** like this. Generally anyone who's been around long enough know about this .
Quote from: Anzi on Dec 11, 2006, 07:05 PM
Question: What do you mean by custom cards? +65 Atk is Incantation Samurai, +50% HP is Dark Lord? If that's different for other servers, please explain to me (I sincerely don't know. Anima was my first server..so yea)
these are not official cards. incantation samurai ignores mob defence and drains 666hp from user every 10 seconds, dark lord is 1% chance of casting lvl 5 MS on dmg and hp and sp+20% if combo'd with dark illusion.
Wow... I've played on that server for several months, even though I've left now...
But I've rumors like this going around all over the place,
But I never knew they were true... Thank you for this informative topic.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
Server: AnimaRo
Rates 5/5/3
Time played: 9 months or so
General
First of all, the server is run off a donation ad system. You do ads, free trial offers, or paid offers and those companies pay the server, and the server gives you "ads" redeemed into MVP items. As you can imagine, this creates a gigantic class imbalance. The GMs themselves admit the imbalance but deny it when the ad system topic is bought up. (They will do this a lot). If you are looking for quality PvPing, you will not find it here. If you use any sort of magic, someone will pull a Golden Thief Bug on you, kill you, and say something retarded like "pwned noob". Due to massive amount of custom MVP cards too (+20% to all types, +65 damage weapon cards, +50% HP boot card, +10 def armor card, ), sins/sinx are one of the easiest classes to PvP with and is the most overplayed class. The player base quality is EXTREMELY low, with less and less mature vets and more and more beggars/exploiters/KSers and the occasional player who throws in lots of real cash to try to talk smack. They also add this ad incentive to vote for the top 100 lists, which is the reason why you see this server on several Top Lists.
Balance
Horrid. Aside from the massive availability of MVP cards, and some of the custom cards I describe above, the GMs attempted to make SQIs (Super Quest Items). Champs on this server do up to 25000 damage Throw Spirit Spheres with a 20000 asura on a fully reduced target, Lord Knights do up to 17000 Spiral Pierce, etc etc (Average HP is usually 12k [spellcasters] to 21[stalkers] to near 30k for Paladin/LKs. Any player input directed at the GMs are typically ignored. The ones in charge of balance are extremely elitist in nature, and will throw theory at you and will attempt to fit in an insult on your player skill if you question their designs. In fact, one select top GM has engaged in many flame fights with players and had to be told to tone down by their own player forum moderators
GM Corruption
Aside from the unprofessionalism I mentioned above, the GMs have engaged in completely selfish behavior. A while ago, they helped their favorite players and friends by giving them top gears, leveling help, botting programs, and such. Several GMs , include the server owner, created a bot army of 99 trans with top gears to rule WoE. Many veterans quit because of this. There were also other players that were on good terms with GMs and allowed to bot, and given bot exemption from the resident GM bot hunter. The GMs and Players who exposed this were banned and silenced. The Top GM (Debbie), being a longterm bot program writer for OpenKore, created a champ with top gears, auto bot aim lockon, and programs to autoswitch armor and regain asura status at maximum speed. It was reported many times for botting but as it was the GM's own playtoy, it was always claimed to be "legit" by the other GMs. Since then, the leftover helped players are either GMs now themselves or have been given namechanges so they could meld it. Due to this, there are massive amounts of corrupt gear on the server. Due to the utter denial of any wrongdoing, these botted chaacters and equips were never removed. As you can imagine, this caused a massive exodus of veterans
GMs in General
The top 2 GMs give the fascade of being 2 female players who like each other. Pathetically, most of the newer players believe them and constantly support them due to the female status. The owner, GM Debbie was exposed as a male and a RO bot program writer, but anyone who said this was banned too. There are several other GMs, but they generally just cause lag with lame events or massive unorganized summonings.
Partying
Nearly nonexistent. Due to custom MVP cards, almost everyone is a soloer. No high level players party except for Lighthalzen and Odin. If you are looking for quality co-op, you won't find it here. Due to the extremely solo nature, WoE is extremely lacking in cooperation even among top tier guilds. People make a lot of 1vs1 classers and very few people play support classes, and fewer play it well
Friendly Server? Hardly
Despite the claims on the front page to remove disruptive players, the GMs actually do very little to stop them, unless they are blatantly yelling racist remarks repeatly. They will let botters and rule violators out if they pay an ad payment, usually with a namechange to prevent repeat reportings too. Hardly any violators will actually be ever removed. Also, they will let players flame at each other but in their own words, they want rivalries as rivalries create more donations for them.
Lag
Lag is a constant problem. There are lag spikes everywhere, in PvP, leveling, WoE. You can't complain about this because once you do, tons of people who are in love with the illusion of female game player GMs will flame you hard, and in groups.
Conclusion: I don't really have to make one. Unless you want to throw in some money and get an instant power house character so you can trashtalk, don't join.
I do believe, Senor, that this is mostly (nay, make that 99.9%) s***.
I've played on aRO for going on 7-8 months now (Which puts me at your age) I know of all that happened, because I am friendly with many of the GMs and people who are Forum Staff Members, etc etc.
Let's break your post up into little categories, so I can address them easier.
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"General
First of all, the server is run off a donation ad system. You do ads, free trial offers, or paid offers and those companies pay the server, and the server gives you "ads" redeemed into MVP items. As you can imagine, this creates a gigantic class imbalance."
WRONG. This is fail.
There is no class imbalance, unless you count Trans vs Non-trans, which btw - that's on all the servers, even the official ones. Oh, wait - that's NOT class imbalance, that's part of the game.
You only call it imbalance because you more than likely did NOT put in the time nor effort to earn your own gears. If you could not do ads, there's something called old-fashioned farming for zeny. Other servers have that option, why can't you do the same? Because you were lazy. This point is moot.
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"If you are looking for quality PvPing, you will not find it here. If you use any sort of magic, someone will pull a Golden Thief Bug on you, kill you, and say something retarded like "pwned noob". Due to massive amount of custom MVP cards too (+20% to all types, +65 damage weapon cards, +50% HP boot card, +10 def armor card, ), sins/sinx are one of the easiest classes to PvP with and is the most overplayed class. "
Uh, yeah and? Magic casters have something called Instant-Cast, which means that unless you DO have GTB, you lose. It's called balance, something you cannot seem to comprehend. Most PvPers to trash-talk, but then again how is that ANY different from any other server? There are always going to be people on any server that talk s*** when they kill or get killed.
Assassins are not the most overplayed class, nor the easiest to PvP with. They are considered an A rank class on our server, while Paladins, Champs, and High Wizards are considered S-rank. I see maybe 3 assassins in PvP at any given time. I see many more Whitesmiths and Champions. This point is ALSO moot.
Quote"Balance
Horrid. Aside from the massive availability of MVP cards, and some of the custom cards I describe above, the GMs attempted to make SQIs (Super Quest Items). "
Horrid? Far from it. The SQIs are balanced quite well (Tome of Ymir could use work, but I digress.)
Quote"Champs on this server do up to 25000 damage Throw Spirit Spheres with a 20000 asura on a fully reduced target, Lord Knights do up to 17000 Spiral Pierce, etc etc."
This is fail as well.
I wear 2/3 reduction gear against some of the most top-tier champions I have ever seen. They deal possibly 5-6k damage with a TSS, MAYBE 8-9k with an Asura. That's not enough to kill me. Lord Knights deal upward 8-10k AT BEST.
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(Average HP is usually 12k [spellcasters] to 21[stalkers] to near 30k for Paladin/LKs. Any player input directed at the GMs are typically ignored. The ones in charge of balance are extremely elitist in nature, and will throw theory at you and will attempt to fit in an insult on your player skill if you question their designs. In fact, one select top GM has engaged in many flame fights with players and had to be told to tone down by their own player forum moderators
The health part is correct, yes. However, the GMs do care about our opinions. Hell, one person even suggested we change the Stormy Knight Custom Card, and it's being reviewed as I type this. The player's opinions are valued.
No GM I've seen while on this server has ever engaged in a flame-war with any player. Again, s***.
QuoteGM Corruption
Aside from the unprofessionalism I mentioned above, the GMs have engaged in completely selfish behavior. A while ago, they helped their favorite players and friends by giving them top gears, leveling help, botting programs, and such.
One GM did that, GM Justice, and he was stripped of his power and banned.
QuoteSeveral GMs , include the server owner, created a bot army of 99 trans with top gears to rule WoE.
100% Grade - A s***.
One GM, GM Osaka did that, and she was promptly stripped and banned.
QuoteMany veterans quit because of this. There were also other players that were on good terms with GMs and allowed to bot, and given bot exemption from the resident GM bot hunter.
More GRADE-A s***.
Many Veterans quit because they were the one frauding/botting/spreading FALSE rumors about the GMs. FAIL.
No player or GM, and I repeat NO PLAYER OR GM, be it friendly or not, is allowed to use third-party programs. Ever. Period. End of story.
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The GMs and Players who exposed this were banned and silenced. The Top GM (Debbie), being a longterm bot program writer for OpenKore, created a champ with top gears, auto bot aim lockon, and programs to autoswitch armor and regain asura status at maximum speed.
Wrong. Debbie, while I am unsure if she DID write for OpenKore, did NOT create a unlegit champ that could regain asura status at top (read: near-impossible) speed.
Quotet was reported many times for botting but as it was the GM's own playtoy, it was always claimed to be "legit" by the other GMs. Since then, the leftover helped players are either GMs now themselves or have been given namechanges so they could meld it. Due to this, there are massive amounts of corrupt gear on the server. Due to the utter denial of any wrongdoing, these botted chaacters and equips were never removed. As you can imagine, this caused a massive exodus of veterans
If they were never removed, how come they don't exist anymore? Oh, wait, because they never were created. My bad.
Again, falsehoods.
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GMs in General
The top 2 GMs give the fascade of being 2 female players who like each other. Pathetically, most of the newer players believe them and constantly support them due to the female status. The owner, GM Debbie was exposed as a male and a RO bot program writer, but anyone who said this was banned too. There are several other GMs, but they generally just cause lag with lame events or massive unorganized summonings.
The GMs give a "facade" of being female?
Wrong. Debbie and Harken are indeed female.
The other GMs do not cause lag with "lame" events or unorganized MvP summons. You just have a s*** connection, because the LAST "event" we had (Re: Thanatos Tower Adventure) was kickass.
You fail here, too.
QuotePartying
Nearly nonexistent. Due to custom MVP cards, almost everyone is a soloer. No high level players party except for Lighthalzen and Odin. If you are looking for quality co-op, you won't find it here. Due to the extremely solo nature, WoE is extremely lacking in cooperation even among top tier guilds. People make a lot of 1vs1 classers and very few people play support classes, and fewer play it well
While I cannot argue that there needs to be more teamwork in WoE, if you can't help do it, I wouldn't try and slander the server with it.
Out of WoE, partying is extremely existent. I cannot count the number of times I've gone to Lighthalzen, Skellington Village, Thanatos Tower, Geffenia, and etc with full parties (Sometimes even two or more!). Partying is extremely fun on aRO.
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Friendly Server? Hardly
Despite the claims on the front page to remove disruptive players, the GMs actually do very little to stop them, unless they are blatantly yelling racist remarks repeatly. They will let botters and rule violators out if they pay an ad payment, usually with a namechange to prevent repeat reportings too. Hardly any violators will actually be ever removed. Also, they will let players flame at each other but in their own words, they want rivalries as rivalries create more donations for them.
Wrong. Ad frauders, Botters, and Harassment Cases/Killstealing/Looting cases are dealth with via our talented team of GMs, Harken, Debbie, Calbee, Delphine, and Konoka. They handle cases posthaste, and without delay. Often they handle it with the best recourse (Botters/frauders are banned, scammers are banned, killstealers/looters/harassers are muted/jailed, and repeat offenses are banned). No amount of money/ad payments will get you out of trouble. Ever.
Also, flame-wars on the forums are existant, but the GMs lock the topics immediately, and/or issue warnings to all involved. Obviously you made this up to slander the server, because you were banned.
QuoteLag
Lag is a constant problem. There are lag spikes everywhere, in PvP, leveling, WoE. You can't complain about this because once you do, tons of people who are in love with the illusion of female game player GMs will flame you hard, and in groups.
Lag is only a problem if your ISP sucks. Get a better connection, and stop b****. Because I have a ok connection (Wireless Broadband), and I do fine. I even load maps like Prontera (which is packed to the gills with vendors and other players) quite quickly.
QuoteConclusion: I don't really have to make one. Unless you want to throw in some money and get an instant power house character so you can trashtalk, don't join.
Here's my conclusion:
You made up all this s*** to slander the server because you were banned, because of some event of you either breaking the rules, or arguing an obfuscated point with a GM (Read: something off-topic, and meaningless - in otherwords arguing for the sake of arguing). Throwing in money is AN OPTION. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO SO TO GET GOOD. I don't donate nearly enough, and I'm a damn good Whitesmith. You're just a lazy bastard who b**** and b****, and then when you get silenced for being a retard and generally annoying to the entirety of the community, you make fake s*** up and slander the server.
People of the forum, I implore you: DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYTHING FALSE SAID ABOUT THIS SERVER.
It's complete, utter, total s***. Anima Ragnarok Online is a amazing place to play, and an even better place to make new friends. So come join us in the adventure!
I find it hard to believe that so very many people would complain about a server, if it were really as wonderful and balanced as Flameke seems to claim. He goes through every point against AnimaRO and simply counters it with "you're lying" and the horrible internet catchphrase "this is fail".
I beleive the entire summary of his counter-argument is summed in this sentence:
QuoteI am friendly with many of the GMs and people who are Forum Staff Members, etc etc.
It would seem that his retort is so vehement due to him probably being one of the "favored few" that AnimaRO is notorious for.
However, let's assume that everyone who has written bad things about AnimaRO is simply someone who was upset because of something that happened to
just them on the server. If that were true, that's a LOT of people upset at a server enough to want to let everyone know about it.
Lol I was never banned nor was I ever remotely close to, when I was active. I've played on the same server as the GMs when they were players and they were universally known for being botters. I've seen them myself and confirmed it with many skilled botters. Hell I guess veterans across THREE servers are engaged in a massive conspiracy.
I guess everyone who ever mentions it must be totally unreliable. Oh wait, half of MoTE, neo-sadistic knows, Lao, Orguss, Memmy, Kaze, etc. Why - these people sound like the core of the veteran group. Guess they're all stupid and paranoid and liars too. Not to mention Illisuun, Aki, Chrno (who quit cause of this), moonisam (same reason), Serenity (same reason) and other people who are well respected.
The fact is, most of the people who openly admit to being helped are not banned. Illiumanti/Itakou didn't keep his GM Debbie connections hidden well at all. His entire guild knew and still knows. Fae, Hellstar, Pastor Roh, and other vets, openly admit to using the GM's OpenKore with zero fear of ever being caught. Hell, irc moderator Rosalind admits that she could expose most of oldschool MoTE. Guess she's a liar too.
-Them themselves admitted in a post called "The Truth. No. For Real" "As many people have discovered, Debbie has ties to a very popular bot program and has produced a large amount of development code for that bot program. The larger truth is that most of the AnimaRO GM team members, past and present, are botters or bot developers."
-One veteran (Windsong) took all the evidence and confronted Debbie as the owner of the Celestial 99 Bot armies, Philip Mak OpenKore bot developer, helper of Sovereign guild, owner of 1hit1kill, personal WoE bot assisted champ. Debbie admitted it. Windsong then quit and posted her collected evidence from many vets, ex-GMs but Debbie tried to put pressure to remove the site. It still can be read thru Google Cache by pressing cache:www.sitename.com for each page or you can go to http://www.ame-agari.net/animaro/truth/ and msg Windsong. Also to note: GM Faith, one of the helped players, tried to flame on the guest book, but didn't deny anything. He just claimed something to the extent of - so what, it's worse on other servers
-Philip Mak was the Paypal account owner for paypal donations until the scandal appeared. Even now, there is a bastardization of the name Philip Mak for the Paypal holder as "Pat Mackey
I guess you can also say Windsong is totally unreliable and a total liar. She's only respected by near all of the vets on the server. The 2 ex-GMs who worked with her must be liars too. So must dozens of the first people on the server, many of them unbanned, but sick of fighting bots. Those silly pathing errors by Debbie's 1hit1kill champ must be lies too. Humans can get stuck on pillars for minutes and be confused too. Yep, the fact that all of the corrupted people were in the same botting/exploiting guild on UltimaRO which all the cards ideas were jacked from were lies too. The veterans population of UltimaRO, MobRO, and AnimaRO are all silly liars and confused jealous people. After all, everyone who can attest to anything is a liar and totally jealous, except the GMs who make tons of cash off "not lying."
Stay away from this server. I agree with Senor 100% on everything. Basically, the only reason you are getting any good reviews on this site is because of a post here (http://animaravens.s4.bizhat.com/animaravens-ftopic52.html) (from one of the Anima Guilds) stating to give it better reviews. Ironically, this guild is owned by a GM room mate/donkey kisser, "Xennith" aka Gene in game. Flameke (the idiot who posted above) is also a part of this guild, hence his donkey kissing post.
"I like Debbie, I like Harken, I like Eclipse, and god help me, I even like BlackTalon, and this s*** has to stop. " is a quote from Xennith on that page. He's also trying to get this thread removed because it makes him sad. People like this are the reason that Anima is messed up, because they refuse to accept its wrongs and insist it is 100% right.
Also in the rules of this guilds forum,
"Blatant disrespect of AnimaRO will result in an immediate and permanent Ban, expulsion from the guild, and I WILL report you to the AnimaRO Staff. It's not hard for me, either. "
Uhuh, he can just tell his room mate to hop on and ban you ::)
NOTE: I am an ex-player of this server, didn't get banned, I am not affiliated with any other servers so don't call this bias.
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: ANIMARO.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 19-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 22-Sep-2000
Expiration Date: 22-Sep-2007
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi? website? A link to animaRO on it.
<Quote> Site owned by Philip Mak. Powered by AniFics.com Fanfiction Database Engine.
2) Harken lives with Gene one of the biggest fanboys and supporters that will try and shoot down any and all rumors. This is more coverup from good friends. Look at the IP? in the following.
o GM-Harken is
[email protected] * 1
o GM-Harken on &#animaro
o GM-Harken End of /WHOIS list.
o Xennith is
[email protected] * ja n
o Xennith on +#animaro
o Xennith End of /WHOIS list.
3) Rosalind is GM-Delphine, She also plays favorites. Magically warping her and illuminati so they can EC on defense is lame. Vandals made a huge stink about it. It fell through the cracks. More GM abuse.
4) GM-Harken has +10 Sleips on his character Stratocaster. +3 award for botting a professor. Is this acceptable? GM? are so open about botting then a****** if you do it? Himeko was said professor. You would think that a GM that ?penly admits??botted to get +3 awards would be open to allow other +3? right? Eclipse and Debbie said that the first 99 homunculus could get a +3 as they didn?î¨,, care. Harken stopped it cold. A person who admits to botting for his rewards refuses to give out other people who EARNED it, because that would make him less strong.
5) Chiyo-chan was banned for playing favorites??was warned numerous times to stop, yet like most GM work, they wouldn?î¨,, back up their threats. Rosalind still flies under this radar. Sachi too.
6) Ning hacked Chiyo ages ago and spawned tons of +10 items, kahos, etc. Harken admits to not doing a good job removing them all. Hooray for inadequacies. Ning wasn?î¨,, banned for this.
7) Debbie lets Sachi get away with so much as a GM because he? trying to nail her too. This is the main reason Ayame and Sachi are done. Stuff that she gets away with? Advertising her guild Elysium on mass announcements, GM warping in WoE, throwing little mvp events in Gon for her friends. General favoritism. USUAL GM behavior
8) Harken and the GM team admit to Yuki frauding and that Seigi still has their items, yet refuse to act on it because ?hey don?î¨,, like banning a lot of people?色€?They just enjoyed the money. Also has a huge list of botters. Constantly admits it in IRC, why aren?î¨,, they banned, you may ask? Because they bring money to the server. (Harken claims he has a plan to??if you rat someone else out it? a lesser sentence plan??It?l never go off) It? all about the money. FU, You?î¨,e lucky the GM? wont do anything, ever.
The Fanboys can be as blind as they want to be. The server is as corrupt now as it was when it was getting started. Most of this is taken straight FROM GM's that either A) didn't expect me to piece it together... or B) wanted to prove my loyalty somehow. Neither happened.
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 22, 2006, 06:39 AMhow much AnimaRO rakes in monthly from donations alone: $25,000 US. If you've ever played on the Anima server, you can see in Prontera alone over 200 pairs of Lord Kaho's Horns which sell for $100/each, as well as customized Kaho Horns which sell for $130/each. Now, if that number alone doesn't raise alarm to any of you and make you stop to think, "Anima is a giant money grubbing scandal", then I'm sorry- there's no hope for you.
simply - wow. whereas i dont agree with donations that unbalance the game and making money from priv servers (perhaps enough to break even) that is simply incredible (if it is even close to true) it amazes me people choose to play servers with such unbalanced donation systems (this goes for all servers - i have no experience of animaro)
also those pics are scary lol
There seems to be so much drama going on animaRO, this is why I dislike big servers XD
As for the amounts mentioned... wow.. that's a whole lot of money for a "free private server", it's sad that people get caugh up in such competition that forces them to pay.
I always said it... PVP and interplayer competition can lead to some very, very irrational actions.
But I digress! St. Serenity, your post REALLY helped bring things to light for a lot of people, I think. The pictures, alone, proves there's some very shady business going on behind the scenes of this server.
Disclaimer: And no, I'm not trying to bash other servers to make my OWN look better. Most RO players aren't ROLE-players, so I am gaining nothing by discussing non-RP servers.
El oh El @ Orguss/James , and St.S/Tynne
I got to thank you guys for painting a clearer picture. I've had my suspicions but a lot has been confirmed here.
I remember when Merah spilled the beans on rosalind har har.
Killua, isn't he GM Calbee?
Anyways yeah, its BS with the bannings lately.
I remember way back when Aegis posted about Harken and Xennith (Xen who I just saw browsing this post as I was reading, and who knows what BS he's going to fabricate) being roomates and getting banned like it was nothing, and lol at the Debbie picutures, everyone laughed when I said they looked a bit 'mannish' but wow that some nice ones right there and I guess I was right ;p .
And a nice way to ban people with labelling them with ad fraud, I remember isbye, my friend helped him get into arena, they failed the first time around, and they rebought more seals, and eveb he went and borrowed his friends sqi gears (he didnt even have kahos so this ad fraud thing is bs).
It's s*** they think they can silence people like this. I'll post more later I have to leave for work v_v
OK, I really have to put in my two-cents here, because there's a lot of misinformation being spread, namely, by the people who seem to be interested in doing harm to AnimaRO.
First and foremost, I'd like to point out the intention behind this entire thread, and behind everything that is the great "Truth about AnimaRO" conspiracy.
It's here to do harm to AnimaRO.
Now, let that sink in for a moment... allow it to implant itself... now, let's look at what this means, really, at its core:
There is a conspiracy about AnimaRO, which exists for the sole purpose of attracting attention to an internet game server. There is a gigantic fuss being raised by a number of malcontent individuals whom are not happy with their AnimaRO experience. They expend a vast amount of effort... IP changed, Ban evasions, Hosting and re-hosting of conspiracy sites, forum invasions, image-photoshops, and rumormongering... all with the sole and explicit purpose of getting back at a free online game server.
That's right. Here, all these people are making a fuss over a single, little, online game server, that provides a service to players at absolutely no cost. Every penny spent on the server, every iota of potential income being generated therein, is 100% optional. Nobody is forced to donate, and every single donatable item can be found in-game, either as a drop, or as a purchasable item from another player who donated for it.
People rant and rave about how this server is so amazingly terrible... they rant and rave about how the GMs scam the players, and about how the donation system is unbalanced, and about how, above all else, the server is full of terrible and lame...
... yet the server has a 1500-2000 average active player count, and on top of that, the top players on the server greatly enjoy the competitive level of play they engage in. Low level characters are given every convenience and availability to help usher them into a competitive level zone, and there are some fiercely brilliant thinkers, strategists, and geniuses on AnimaRO who get 100% out of their play. To the best of my knowledge, a large number of them aren't these "Select Few" that people talk about all the time.
Hell, I'M being talked about in this... I'm being identified as the roommate of the gameplay GM, and I'm being identified with botters, scammers, and this supposed "Favoritism"...
OK then, tell me this, oh amazing, all-knowing, conspiracy-masters, if the server is so full of favoritism, and "Special Treatment" why is it that I, the supposed roommate of the second-in-command GM, has but a few Zeny to his name, and has earned every last one of his items himself, hasn't been taught how to bot, hasn't been given server database access, and hasn't even been spawned any of these amazing instant-level monsters?
I'll tell you why: It's because you're full of s***.
You think you have it all figured out? Fine. Have fun in your little world where you hate AnimaRO, but don't try and ruin what would be an otherwise enjoyable experience for casual players.
Yes, if you haven't figured it out by now, I'm the one-and-same Xennith/Gene from the Raven's Nest forum, from the AnimaRO Forums, and from in-game.
Yes, I am a Moderator on said forums, and yes, if it hasn't been made readily apparent already, I have some ties to the GM team.
Now, above all else, this whole situation disgusts me, not because these people are unhappy with AnimaRO (They have that right as much as anyone else), but because they have to be aggressive about it.
Don't like aRO? Fine. Leave the server, say your peace, tell your friends that the server stinks, and get lost.
What infuriates me, is that you're not content to just move on... oh no, you have to come on to advertisement sites, to public forums, to our IRC channel, and to our forums, and try to slander us as best you can.
For you, it's ceased to be about disliking this server... it's become your own twisted, retarded little crusade to try and DO HARM to AnimaRO and its community.
Where's this "Justice" you speak of in that? What did AnimaRO do to you? Give you the wrong impression? Give you a few unhappy hours of game-time? Make you feel like less of a person for losing to some random botter?
OH NOES, better call the Internet-Police... there's a game server that wasn't what I was looking for!
Seriously, if I could grasp why it is that you seem to have this desire to, seriously, get a game server shut down, I might be able to take you a little more seriously... but for the love of God, this isn't some "Evil Empire"... heck, it's not even a "True Neutral Township"... it's a game.
Now, I can see why you'd be upset... maybe even feel a bit exploited by such a game server... but does that make it any more SANE to devote hours upon hours of your time simply to do them harm? That's barely human.
I'm here protesting you people, because you're trying to, literally, kill something I love. I, personally, have invested a lot of time and effort, and even money into my gameplay experience, and I continue to enjoy it immensely. Not only that, but I know that I have a guild full of players who continue to enjoy it, along with what could be assumed as thousands of other players.
Now, what makes this whole disgusting situation even MORE distasteful to me is that you've gone and made it personal. You've gone from attacking a server I like... to attacking me.
How this thread is even still open on these forums boggles my mind.
Now then, since you've decided to make some claims against me (Some, even unwittingly), I find that my best course of action is to produce the factual information for the argument:
Step One: Gene is Harken's Roommate.
False.
Gene knows Harken... heck, they're buddy-buddy, and even hang out in real life. Even frequently, I daresay. I've known Harken since before I even knew what RO was (And I have her to thank for it) and she's been an amazing friend to me... which makes it more painful when you badmouth her. However, we are not roommates. She thinks I'm a damned retard (I know some of you agree with her) and I think she's somewhat of a tight-donkey. She visits my house, along with her laptop, where-from, she undoubtedly does GM-ish things... hence, where you got those matching IPs from. When someone is on my Wireless network, they tend to end up with the same IP as me. She lives in Vancouver Washington, and I live in Beaverton Oregon.
Tynne: I don't use a VHost, you ignorant f***.
Step Two: Pat Mackey is a fabricated name/Pat Mackey is Harken
Also False
I can't help that the GMs had some issues with their mail donations, and that I stepped forward to help. Pat Mackey is, in reality, the name of the person who handles the mail donations. I take offense to that name being called a bastardization.
This is why I get pissed off at this whole thing... you think you have it figured out, and you post it up, and it drags someone who doesn't want anything to do with this drama into the fray.
Tynne: Harken is, in actuality, a female individual... she is also not Pat. As humorous as that would be, seeing as she can be quite mannish at times, you said yourself that her identity is "Unkown".... yet you seem have it all figured out who she is?
I'M STARTING TO NOTICE A PATTERN.
On that note, Tynne, you're the most bitter and malcontent of all these people. Seriously, you enjoyed Anima. You told people you enjoyed Anima... was this false? OH WAIT, I bet it was.
Why? Because you're a lying faggot.
You lied to players in IRC, you lied to players in TS, you lied to the GMs, you lied to people on the forums, and now, you're more than likely lying about a lot of info in this thread.
You have never told the whole truth to anyone about anything, as is absurdly apparent by your overall attitude, and you do your absolute best to be a manipulative f***... especially when it concerns the emotions or preceptions of the group you want to get ingrained with.
You left AnimaRO to become a GM on another server because you knew that you didn't have a chance in hell of being hired on as one of the new Public Relations GMs that the AnimaRO staff is looking for.
You know why?
Because Harken and I saw through you like glass. You're as transparent as seran wrap.
Just stop trying. I feel the most hurt by the fact that someone who invested so much time into AnimaRO, all the while, lying his donkey off about being some pleasant person, would come forward and try and slander it.
A lot of the players talk about the "Gold-diggers" on AnimaRO... those "Female" players who try and abuse people to get their grubby fingers on free itamz... but you take the cake.
None of them will ever be as manipulative a whore as you are.
Congratulations.
You guys talk about how terrible the GMs are for using Bots? If the people in this thread are who I suspect they are, you have no room to talk, being botters or hackers yourselves.
You talk about how the GMs have shady pasts? Noone was born a GM... and moreover, a huge number of players know the GMs to be friendly, upbeat individuals... yes, even GMs like BlackTalon, who are, while sarcastic and sometimes a bit sadistic, still in it for one thing:
THE GAME.
AnimaRO is a service provider. They run a server, the players spend hours of enjoyment on the server, contribute to the upkeep of the server, and the GMs are able to provide more and more of a comfortable environment.
Are you guys going to Crusade agains Blizzard, as well, for making sub-par servers, or hiring sub-par staff... or from making millions and millions of dollars every month off of players who are choosing to play them?
Because really guys, this is no different. Blizzard has a s*** game... with thousands of players who feel scammed and/or cheated... are you going to fight for their cause too?
No, it's because you're unhealthily and insanely obsessed with your selfish desire to get back at a f*** game server.
It may sound cliche', but god damnit, you've taken this to the point where I will do EVERYTHING I can to stop you.
Stop slandering me, stop slandering my friends and acquaintances, and stop trying to harm something I, unlike you, enjoy.
Xennith, seriously, stop trolling and go away. Also, don't talk about "attacking people" if you're going to make the extremely hateful comment of "lying faggot". If anything, your post should be deleted. Everything else is on topic of (AnimaRO) Low Quality in Disguise, Corruption.
To quote you, with a change of words.
Don't like this review? Fine. Leave this this review, say your peace, tell your friends that this review is wrong, and get lost.
I find it funny, the minute you speak out against aRO it's rumor mongering. I get a full ban for what? Saying Harken should get off his donkey and remove gear that shouldn't be? Yeah, that's real quality GM'ing. Ban the person who is saying you should ban rule breakers.
I don't care if pmak/kanemi/debbie/jennifer/whoever runs animaRO is, it's the way he runs it. He wants to be a yaoi crossdressing nazi, go right a head. But allowing Harken and his mouth to continue to ruin the game is his biggest downfall.
The GM's admit to botting all day and night, still to this day, but then have this false sense of hypocracy as to who they want to ban for botting. It's either day or night. You gave so many people these 'free rides' and punish some random noob for kore'ing it up in payon dungeon. Yeah, great GM'ing. You want to ban bots? Ban FU, ban mote, get off your donkey and actually do something if you don't like us "slandering your server" We have every right to give a full in depth review to people. If that persuades people to leave your crap hole? I'm sure I'll sleep soundly.
Panda Squad Guild being full of GM's with hacked gear, Himeko; Harken, 1hit1kill; Debbie, Zetsumei; Eclipse... What more do you want? You guys bullied your own server in WoE, tanking full guilds solo by ygging it up and the like. With 500 spawned yggs, who cares if you chug them... you can always spawn more, then when people go WTF, it's "They are legit. They were using cakes, you can beat cakes" Yeah right, you cover up your own crap like that all the time. People complain night and day and you feed them more lies to keep them quiet so you can scrounge another few ad credit off of them before they quit.
Let's see, more... lies... Osaka? How long did people b**** and moan on the forums, provide screenshots, publically announce C-99 and the bot army? Hm? And each time it's either "They passed the bot check" or just flat out ignore them. Why? They are GM's pissing in their own pot. Only after 4 MONTHS of WoE domination did it finally stop. Did you guys get tired of setting up your bots? Tired of people complaining? Or was it the fact that so many people stopped sending money to you because of it.
Why could we not beat a bot army? Or Panda Squad? Well, besides the number being not in favor, and the bots scripting was top notch, it's more GM spawned gear. Every character had mjolnir, and megs, and everything. When Average Joe could NOT get them. Sure they were donation for a bit, but if you missed out, you could not attain them. You were bullying people on bots with gear we could not match. Further imbalance.
But eventually you guys stopped ruining your own server in WoE, but so much damage was done it's not even funny. I finally think things start balancing out... then you go and screw it up again by letting Yuki and his fanboys keep all their gear after frauding for it. It was so much fraud they even were giving people SQI for leaving and coming to their guild. Vash, leader of Decimated Serenity can attest to that. A Twin Fang for joining Seigi? Once more, tons of gear in the wrong hands and the GM team is scared to punish for what might those 5 people think....
The rest of the server is upset just as much as us 'rogues who want to trash your precious server', I'm just banned on that forum for speaking out on that, otherwise I'd grab quotes from the numerous other people at arms over your unethical choices. But, I'm sure at this point, you've silenced them or gave them items to keep them quiet. As long as people are quiet, you get more money, isn't that right?
Which we all know what animaRO is about these days. Money. Money that goes to fund debbie's career and not even a tiny fraction going to the server. "We are not at full capacity, so there is no need to upgrade..." When people are b**** for two months about lag? You may not be at full capacity but something sure as s*** needed to be done and only when people started quitting did it really get addressed.
You all pissed in your pot, now drink it up.
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 22, 2006, 04:00 PM
I lol'd. ;D
Yeah, I liked Anima, but once I got out from under the whole "donate to be elite" mindset which consumes Anima, I realized just how much more I liked the game, and realized why it was that I had originally played in the first place.
Lol @ the lying faggot comment.
Why so much cursing? o.O Someone needs a hug. ::)
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See? This is precisely the kind of attitude others referred to in this thread.
Fanatic fanboy.. 'nuff said.
St. Serenity's Anima's Rating: 4/10
+1 for an excellent community of individuals except for Xennith and merahmatriz (two of my biggest haters, haha)
+1 for the decent non-corrupt GM's that are left (Calbee, Faith, Sacherz, Auyra and Konoka)
+1 for all the time I spent there and for all the friendships I made
+1 for all the amusement I got out of Xennith's thread
^_^ Kisses~
Honestly, Tynne. I respected you far more than that. I could have sworn that you and I were really good friends. And then you go, posting fake, slanderous pictures and profiles. PHOTOSHOP. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?!?
Apparently not.
So congratulations on making yourself look like a retard.
You know, I don't see what all the fuss is about on either side. Gene, I know you're pissed. Meh. You'll get over it. So what do people really hope to gain from the hurtful remarks? I know most of you know me. A lot of you probably don't like me. For you, you can go kill yourselves. This server has been nothing but good to me. And I've done my best to help it out too. I'm not a big donor, nor am I a GM favorite. But I know how things work in life.
This server makes a lot of money? Who cares? That's their business. No one forced one person to send in any money, nor to click on those sponsor links. So the money issue is moot. People pay the money because they want to.Unless you can prove to me that Phil Mak is strangling puppies with his
earnings, then I see no problem with it. Is it illegal? Yeah. But any RO server is.
Botting: GMs botting. Even if it is true, who cares honestly. How does it affect you one way or another? It doesn't as none of you even play there any more. And second off, why would the GMs bot? What cause would it serve? If I'm a GM I can edit anything I like about a character. What purpose would botting fulfill? Thus I find this point a little less than believable. Not necessarily untrue, just unlikely.
On Corrupted GMs and friends: It literally happens every where in the world. My friends, it's not what you know, but who you know. That is the way of the world, and has been for a long
long time. If it's true, it's kept discreet enough that most players are never directly affected by it, and therefore don't know about it. Again, I fail to see the point of trying to "reveal the truth" with your "Proof" which in actuality proves nothing. If tried in court, your evidence would be dismissed as circumstantial and hear say. Show me the real proof you have. You have none, except the testimony of GMs that were banned for wrongdoings. The real truth will remain with those who were actually and completely directly involved, and what they choose to tell you could be a lie. In this case, I'll believe the remaining GM team, who claim the GMs were banned for bad behavior and exploiting the player base. If someone caught me doing something wrong and ripped me from my seat of power I'd be mad too. Mad enough to lie to get back at them? Well, I wouldn't but not everyone thinks on the same levels I do. I know some people would do anything to get back at others who they feel wronged them.
So what I'm really trying to say is don't blindly believe rumors because it feels better to bash someone you feel is wrong. You left the server. That's great. I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. But does that give you the base to turn around and start supporting baseless rumors? I know you'll simply spout the exact same thing you have before. The "fact" that Debbie is Phil Mak, or the "fact" that GMs don't do anything positive. Your facts, in the end, are the same thing as this: an attempt to sway people to your side. The truth is, it's all smoke and mirrors, with no support. You post pictures that could literally be of ANYONE on the internet. How does it prove anything? It doesn't. Just as my argument doesn't
prove anything. But then, I don't put up the exact same thing everyone before me has said and claim "Others on here have said it,
it must be true."
I know you'll discuss this, and try to dismantle it, and even say "Look, their supporter doesn't deny anything!!" And that's right. I don't deny anything. I just don't appreciate the straight out vandetta that others have taken against aRO on the ratings. And just because you say "LOL no I was never banned!" or "I played there for 9 months!!" doesn't make it true. I'm not calling the OP a liar, but nor will I personally believe his claims until I see actual proof. I'm the President of the United States! I bet you don't believe that. But it must be true; I said it on a forum. A little food for thought.
Go ahead. Call me a fan boy. Call me what you like. But honestly, and Justin, this is for you specifically, calling people names isn't the answer. And you've become a lot more.... girly since last we spoke. I feel bad for you. But hey, if that's what floats your boat, good for you.
Quote from: Flameke on Dec 22, 2006, 04:24 PM
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Honestly, Tynne. I respected you far more than that. I could have sworn that you and I were really good friends. And then you go, posting fake, slanderous pictures and profiles. PHOTOSHOP. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?!?
Apparently not.
So congratulations on making yourself look like a retard.
Wow Flameke. This is the reason why no one believes us when we say it is a good server. Because your comebacks sound like desperate attacks. Maybe they are, I don't know. But being passionate isn't the way to win an argument. At least, not like this.
Just a correction Paladin, the comment about all RO servers being illegal is false. AEGIS (which animaRO runs on) is illegal because AEGIS is by Gravity. eAthena, which a lot of [smarter] servers are running on, is an emulator, therefore perfectly legal.
And seriously Flameke, take your internet catchphrases to where people like you belong [4chan].
"I posted.
I'm sick of this s***. I'm thoroughly sick of everything that has to do with this "Truth" conspiracy.
If they want to make this personal, fine. So be it.
There's a point at which a man breaks. I feel like I'm coming close to it.
It scares me."
From Xennith in the Raven's Nest guild topic -- posted a bit earlier in the thread by me.
THIS is what you call a fanboy -- someone who is willing to defend a point/troll to the point where he is on the verge of slitting his wrists. Please, someone, help him. :'(
eAthena also has a lot wrong with it. It doesn't truly emulate RO perfectly, which is one of the reasons I joined animaRO. But that is neither here nor there, as even emulators are in fact illegal if Gravity ever wanted to do anything about it, as eAthena has tons of copyrighted material from Gravity..., it's just that... they never will. So that whole statement is moot, really.
And Paladin, this is a review of the server and the GM team. Yes, you don't have to donate to get top-tier gear, but one person frauding for 1000+ dollars gets full top-tier gear in a day for him and his guild mates, does in fact sway that statement a good deal. You don't want to donate? Go right ahead, farm for it. It can be done. The problem is that the AD credit system was just a way to rake in hand over fist money. Money that the server saw very little. Which is a shame, and points off to the server. You don't like that comment? Fine. I'm sure the hundred upon hundreds of out of country people that constantly complained on the forums think otherwise. Ads are not out there for everyone. So it's a lopsided and unbalanced system. Plain and simple.
And I never said I quit the server. I was banned. For who knows what, really, but the basis was 'rumor spreading' which only happened AFTER I was banned for it. If I get banned for something I didn't do, I might as well at least say what's on my mind. Any objections? Oh wait, it's some things the GM team doesn't want me to say. Harken lies on the reasons he bans people. He wants to ban me for being 'a mouth' then say so. He lied about it being a temp forum ban. Temp bans say how much time is left on the ban. But furthermore, my character account was banned as well. Explain how a temp forum ban ends up saying a non-temp full ban. So once I realized I was banned completely, no need to still my tongue. THAT IS when I started 'rumourmongering', a term coined by the GM team to define anything that is said that the GM team doesn't like and/or agrees with.
postpostpostpost, all the facts are there what else can you do? what proofs do YOU have can you really defend it? I have no true thoughs nor do I need it nether am i playing favorites but I need facts and right now.
now tell me prove to me actualy that you can get real information from the GM's Fla otherwise i dont think anyone can believe. True i have played aRO ive hidden myself mostly around the novice players constantly to stay under guild radar and i do agree they do have 1500-2000 members constantly yet adding venders from pront and the venders in payon/dungeon who are duel clienting or just setting up shop i can see we should be able to subtract atleast 700+ active members
leaving the game with an actual 800-1300 people actualy working and playing
Im positive that the ad cred system isnt true ether while lvling up and learing about my other friends whom infact not to say names but have frauded the ad cred to get the good gear amazing eh ad Cred frauds FTW
and aRO is making a shiz load off the frauds
thats all i know im out
johnlikewha~ likewha?!?!?!?
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 22, 2006, 05:29 PM
eAthena also has a lot wrong with it. It doesn't truly emulate RO perfectly, which is one of the reasons I joined animaRO. But that is neither here nor there, as even emulators are in fact illegal if Gravity ever wanted to do anything about it, as eAthena has tons of copyrighted material from Gravity..., it's just that... they never will. So that whole statement is moot, really.
And Paladin, this is a review of the server and the GM team. Yes, you don't have to donate to get top-tier gear, but one person frauding for 1000+ dollars gets full top-tier gear in a day for him and his guild mates, does in fact sway that statement a good deal. You don't want to donate? Go right ahead, farm for it. It can be done. The problem is that the AD credit system was just a way to rake in hand over fist money. Money that the server saw very little. Which is a shame, and points off to the server. You don't like that comment? Fine. I'm sure the hundred upon hundreds of out of country people that constantly complained on the forums think otherwise. Ads are not out there for everyone. So it's a lopsided and unbalanced system. Plain and simple.
And I never said I quit the server. I was banned. For who knows what, really, but the basis was 'rumor spreading' which only happened AFTER I was banned for it. If I get banned for something I didn't do, I might as well at least say what's on my mind. Any objections? Oh wait, it's some things the GM team doesn't want me to say. Harken lies on the reasons he bans people. He wants to ban me for being 'a mouth' then say so. He lied about it being a temp forum ban. Temp bans say how much time is left on the ban. But furthermore, my character account was banned as well. Explain how a temp forum ban ends up saying a non-temp full ban. So once I realized I was banned completely, no need to still my tongue. THAT IS when I started 'rumourmongering', a term coined by the GM team to define anything that is said that the GM team doesn't like and/or agrees with.
Orguss, I never directed anything at you, and you know what, You're right. You have the right to say what you like. I've never been at odds with you (well maybe once or twice over some small stuff). Yes, I prefer to earn everything, yes I just finally made my first trans character 7 months after I fist started playing a 5x rate server. That's a LONG time. I'm sorry you got temp-banned for flaming and someone made it more personal, particularly Harken. At that point, where favoritism works in reverse and gets people banned, I'd have to say it's bad. But on your point, the original post was more of an attack than an actual review. And many of the posts since were also more of an attack. Certainly, it could have been posted in a better way. Perhaps not.
You are all correct in your arguments to my points, and I am glad it didn't become some retarded flame fest. Sure there's problems with our server, and you know what? I'm also pretty sure it's not nearly as bad as people make it out.
When people bandwagon like this (I use the term for a select group of people who are jumping on a case that's gathering steam, not to insinuate you're here simply because you think this side will "win") it often makes some points exaggerated. I've already come to terms with possibilities. If I didn't have friends here on Anima, I may have left. Not because of all the stuff, but because I don't want to be in the middle of it. I don't want this to blow up and have Gravity's attention drawn to this server, to shut it down for something. Some people would like that alot. Those are the people I don't like. Truth or lies, it doesn't matter much anymore. Many of the problems that were complained about are either being fixed (if they're not already beyond fixing) or have at least started to be resolved. The things that can't be fixed, well, that's not my concern. One day it may be, but not right now. And if I get banned for this, maybe I'll spin a 180. But I want it known I don't blindly support the GM team. Neer have. I'm the one who started one of the topics in Ranters about donors receiving preferential treatment. I'm not completely blind to everything as some of you would believe I am.
But nor am I willing to blindly believe your accusations. Until I see proof of one or the other, I will continue as I have. I just wish you could leave the server alone. That's my only problem with the whole thing.
Quote from: johnlikewha on Dec 22, 2006, 05:54 PM
postpostpostpost, all the facts are there what else can you do? what proofs do YOU have can you really defend it? I have no true thoughs nor do I need it nether am i playing favorites but I need facts and right now.
now tell me prove to me actualy that you can get real information from the GM's Fla otherwise i dont think anyone can believe. True i have played aRO ive hidden myself mostly around the novice players constantly to stay under guild radar and i do agree they do have 1500-2000 members constantly yet adding venders from pront and the venders in payon/dungeon who are duel clienting or just setting up shop i can see we should be able to subtract atleast 700+ active members
leaving the game with an actual 800-1300 people actualy working and playing
Im positive that the ad cred system isnt true ether while lvling up and learing about my other friends whom infact not to say names but have frauded the ad cred to get the good gear amazing eh ad Cred frauds FTW
and aRO is making a shiz load off the frauds
thats all i know im out
johnlikewha~ likewha?!?!?!?
Oh yeah. Like wha? You were probably better off not posting. First off, I know my post was a bit wordy, but it did specifically state I wasn't offering proof. I stated my statement didn't prove anything. I even bolded it for you. I also said the server makes a lot of money. I fail to see your actual point, if indeed your post was in response to me.
Evidence and facts?
As for evidence, I am a direct witness to the botting and exploiting. I speak to people who are directly involved in it.
Let's look at UltimaRO. The reason why it is relevant is because the entire GM team was one single guild on there or an associate of that guild there. Many many dozens of players, including me saw the botting Kanemi/Debbie did there. However, the GM of that server played massive favorites and never banned him, even though he used bots to hold up his MVP summoning sage/dancer/bard/priesttank parties and support. When UltimaRO shut down, Kanemi/Debbie tried to email all the ex-players as he was the forum moderator and had everyone's email and invite them to his new server.
-There's like 1500+ people who recieve the email. There are two servers full of people who have seen the same posse moving around and seen the botting.
Ever since, Debbie's posse has followed him thru UltimaRO and MobRo. Some of them were buttpals and are now GMs and such. However, there lies a population of people along for the free ride who do not care about keeping up secrecy when they quit. You can argue they're totally unreliable and liars, but the fact remains they were never banned, which seems like the ultimate win-all argument to prove they're not telling the truth. They were along for Debbie's winning and hijacking of his own first 99 awards and his level botting. What the heck would you want? Testimony from unbanned members of his guild and posse on who he is and what kind of botting he does? There's plenty of that. lilboi, conneh, H o n e y, etc
-Ask them yourself if you see them on
Itakou/Illimanti (Debbie's play friend from URO) Used Gm accounts to spawn himself equips, botted, and used client edits to hit cloaked enemies. Damn our silly fabrication. We made him not keep his botting secret to his guildmates. Also we must have imagined him TSSing stuff outta cloak. He was forced to be banned for that due to the accumulation of player evidence from him, but the GMs never bothered to ban his +10 equips or his botted priest whitesmith or paladin.
-The proof is that his hpriest runs around all the time, runs one of the largest guilds there
How exactly has their activities not ruined the server? They destroyed WoE for 4 months with their Celestial 99 and Panda armies. Most active PvPers from that era has quit outta fustration.
They are aware of constant botters who use Debbie's programs. They have a good idea of who is ad frauding. These people have ruined present day PvP. They announce their knowledge all the time in irc and forums. Yet they remain unbanned. This info is from their own mouths, not mine
And yes, we managed to use magic to change the hosting site of shoujai and animaro. Freaking voodoo. Any person with moderate computer skills is able to look it up themselves.
-Self explainatory, you can look this up
Apparently, the "conspiracy" managed to set up a fake Paypal account that collected animaro donations under the account name Philip Mak too. The first few months of the server's donations all went to the secret conspirators
-Go ask anyone old enough to donate to this. If they're still around from not being fustrated
You can follow this path and visit VisualKore. Guess who's the owner. Pmak.
The photo. Debbie posted a pic of himself under his own account a while back where he was at game convention. If anyone remembers it, the person from that photo looks the same as from this photo. More voodoo, we must have access to Debbie's Forum name and made him post a pic.
-Go search for the post. If it's deleted, find it and google cache
There are so many things the GMs have said themselves, such as they admitting Debbie has ties to a botting program and most of the GM team are former botters, the things they say in irc. Connect the Dots.
Their own GMs don't even keep a good cap on it. They'll reveal some info, and ban the people later to try to discredit them later.
This forum is for server discussion, for people who are sick of the s*** favoritism, botting, frauding, and corruption on Servers they've been on. Go Nazi Police your own forums. Your dumb 4-chan one liners don't work here.
To anyone who got hurt finding out information they didn't want to know which later lead to them leaving the server.
Ignorance is bliss.
AD frauders are the new botters, and it sucks. But security measures has been taken to "possibly" reduce ad fraud whether or not it works, actions have been taken. Yeah, it sucks that frauded SQI's are still running around, and people who really need to banned for things that are blatantly obvious. But for those who are getting away with it currently will eventually most likely upset your so called "Corrupt GM's" and ban them for everything they have ever done. AD frauding does piss me off greatly, but I'm just happy they are taking the time to reduce fraud but the only best way to reduce it is to remove the system entirely but that will only bring up waves of complaints saying that the donation prices are too high. It pisses me off that I have been working so hard to get one SQI of my own legit, but ad frauders bring in 150mil a day in zeny through ad fraud.
Knowing all this information on what may or may not be true, does not hinder my gameplay experience at aRO, if anything I wish Debbie/Phil/Whoever would be more harsh on people who uses the botting program he helps develop on his own server, there is even a thread on the OpenKore forum for aRO with people who want information on how to bot aRO. I would imagine for someone who works in that particular field would put in the proper stops to prevent people from using his own program on his own server. Even after all this conspiracy, courruption, and everything else people can say, they must be doing something right because I'm still playing here, and I have no plans on leaving.
then as i stated stop posting yourself if you dont have proof
i see it as just a bunch of jumble that doesnt aim at the server
I'll explain in simpler terms. Since you won't believe anything except from GMs. Oh wait, you don't believe anything from exGMs either. I guess all your info comes from GMs who are paid by Debbie. Here's a simple breakdown that doesn't involve testimony
SITE A HOSTS SITE B.
No one can change that, except the websites and the parent company that hosts it. From there, you can see who registered the site
MONEY GOES FROM POINT A TO POINT B
Paypal donations to server went to an account under PHILIP MAK
GM'S OWN WORDS
Under the GM's post and mission , "Debbie has linked to a popular botting program". Now bring up google. Check openkore website forum. Forum helper "pmak" helped users of his program connect to animaro and set up the bot program.
THEY POSTED THE PIC THEMSELVES
Deb posted a pic under his own forum name on his own forums. All you have to do is look at Picture A on that original post. Now Look at picture B, of the before/after pic here. Same person
BOTTING
What can you do, they control every in-game single log. You're trying to prove guilt of people who control all the evidence and can manipulate it at will. Even when a ex-GM collected posted logs in IRC, none of you will believe him. You won't believe the DOZENS of vets that had to fight these armies even after C99 under Panda, and seen Bot indicators such as PATHING ERRORS, MASS TEAM DISCONNECT WHEN LEADER DIES, SYNCHRONIZED WALKING. Until once again, you are forced to use GM's OWN POSTS AND COMMON SENSE
Under their own posts: They took like 4 months to "catch" Osaka's bot army. Amazingly long for people that develop bot programs to catch someone using their own programs.
FAVORITISM
Once again, you pick out their own ban threads
Take a read at ANY PvP complaint at all on their own forums. Reach the judgement for any harassing words
It will be "PvP is not to be taken seriously". At worse, it is a few hours of mute
Let's now pick up another thread, based on their OWN GM DECISION.
Let's look at harassing words when you do it on Eclipse's wife, who is a player and not an admin. Was it "Don't take it seriously" or a mute. Nope, it was a double permanent ban
Quote from: johnlikewha on Dec 22, 2006, 06:24 PM
then as i stated stop posting yourself if you dont have proof
i see it as just a bunch of jumble that doesnt aim at the server
"tl;dr, I don't believe you, you don't believe me, nobody has solid presentable evidence either way, but I choose to believe this."
That's really what this seems to have turned in to, in all honesty. It's ceased to be about who's right or wrong... think Paladin said it best. All it is now is whether or not people choose to care about it.
The problem is that it's a lot easier to ignore something than it is to like it... you people attacking AnimaRO know that.
A single bad review would have to be countered by ten. When there's another option open to players, they'll pass up AnimaRO and jump straight to any other given, absolutely random, server simply because the first review was straight-up lame.
What really gets me about this is that it seems as if you have NOTHING good to say about AnimaRO. Look at the reviews... seriously... Tens? Not even AnimaRO is that bad. Heck, even you, Colonel, gave it a 24... but tens? That's clearly the sort of thing that's been instigated by this whole situation.
In all honesty, I understand the gripes. I realize the GMs bot. I realize they botted before they were GMs. I even realize that they probably still bot. But what does that change about AnimaRO? It's not as if the GMs bot their
GM hacked characters in WoE. The GMs don't use hacked gears when combating the players. They use legits (And in all honesty, if you can submit to me visible proof of illegit GM SUMMONED gear or hacked stats, I'll work towards getting that GM banned, and if I'm banned in the process, hell, I'll 100% convert to your side), not this database hacked stuff.
I do realize the aRO GMs have shady pasts... didn't I say that? I don't deny that they've probably done "Bad things", but Jesus, they're doing something right, because over 5000 satisfied players (Low-ball number) say that they are.
I'm angry because it's been dragged back to me to deal with, and I'm angry that this thread is done with malicious intent.
If it was just a case of "Hey, I don't like this server too much, there's a lot of things wrong with it", it wouldn't be so bad... even if you jump into the "GMs are somewhat corrupt" aspect of it, it's not so bad... but you guys take it to the level of trying to infiltrate their personal lives.
What this Phil guy does behind closed doors with his mother and a wig means nothing to me for aRO... what it DOES mean to me, is that you're trying to invade on someone's private life to try and slander their business one.
Does not compute.
I see the gripe, I really do, but I definitely don't think you're justified in taking it this far.
As a side note, "Dear Serenity"... all this talk you seem to have about AnimaRO being so corrupt seems a tad bit hypocritical coming from EuphRO staff.
Didn't the GMs have to shut down that server, at one point, because the head GM misused some donation funds?
In fact, I'm sure if I looked, I could dig up quite a bit of dirt on Euph... but you know what? UNLIKE YOU, I don't CARE about trashing another server that I might dislike, or think is corrupt.
I would only hope that you would be willing to extend the same courtesy to others, lest something bad happen. I mean, how would you react if a group of malcontents came along with malicious intentions towards EuphRO?
That would suck, amirite?
Well guess what you're doing to us.
Go back to your own server. That's where you want you, and that's where we want you. This isn't a fight you belong in.
Heck, I don't think this is a fight anyone belongs in... but I suppose some people can't just sit back and not attack others' integrity.
GM's don't bot GM characters? You're right, because then people would b**** because GM's are woeing on a GM char.... But GM 'legit' alts weren't botted? SharpShooter was never botted? Sounds fishy.
GM's dont use illegitimate gears? Harken should NOT have +10 Sleipnirs on Stratocaster. Why? Because he didn't earn them at all. +3 rewards taken from botting. He openly admits he botted Himeko. Okay, fine, he has a shady past... He did that before he was GM. HE DID NOT TAKE THE AWARDS TILL AFTER HE WAS A GM. That means even after he made GM, he still had no shame in taking something from the server he didn't earn. The +3 should have gone to someone who worked hard getting it. Not Justice, Debbie, and Harken snatching them up so a) no one could contest that the +10 kahos weren't legit, and B) no one else besides them would have them. To be honest, I fully expected the GM's to make dummie chars and say they got the first 99 on the new classes too. Debbie needs a new 'legit' (And I use that term losely when talking about GM alts) +10 Suiken.
Also, to EASILY refute your claim. Black Talon. Not only does he constantly spawn +10 everything + SQI, he does it on non-gm characters, he also flexes said gear in pvp ALL the time, and last but not least, has let people BORROW +10 valk shield. This is why rumors float all around about favoritism. Because you let one person use it once, they show one other person, then it's like HOW DID HE MAKE THAT? They already know +3's have been taken...
And Gene, once again, you show just how 'animaRO administrators' act. Immature. He never once mentioned another server. He mentioned this one. It's so easy to turn the light into someone else's face then admit you're wrong, isn't it? But the EuphRO crap is just lamers rumormongering like here, amiright? However, I'll admit making fun of 'Debbie' being a cross dresser 'crosses' the line. If s/he ran a good server I wouldn't care.
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 22, 2006, 07:55 PM
Also, to EASILY refute your claim. Black Talon. Not only does he constantly spawn +10 everything + SQI, he does it on non-gm characters, he also flexes said gear in pvp ALL the time, and last but not least, has let people BORROW +10 valk shield. This is why rumors float all around about favoritism. Because you let one person use it once, they show one other person, then it's like HOW DID HE MAKE THAT? They already know +3's have been taken...
And Gene, once again, you show just how 'animaRO administrators' act. Immature. He never once mentioned another server. He mentioned this one. It's so easy to turn the light into someone else's face then admit you're wrong, isn't it? But the EuphRO crap is just lamers rumormongering like here, amiright? However, I'll admit making fun of 'Debbie' being a cross dresser 'crosses' the line. If s/he ran a good server I wouldn't care.
So you know, I 100% agree with you here.
I think that the way BT acts with his +10 SQIs in PvP on his 99s is absolutely atrocious. I've pointed this out to the staff numerous times, and BT has been scolded about it more than once.
Enough so that he doesn't do it nearly as often any more.
Beyond that, I don't think the GM team could afford to ban him at this point, and fire him, because of how important he is to the staff. Nobody else can do what BT does right now.
Then again, there may be more reasons that the GMs are hiring more Tech staff. Who knows.
The fact that BT limits himself to doing it in PvP is admirable too. He never (To my knowledge) does it in WoE, aka, what matters.
But yes, I hate this behavior from BT, and I openly admit that.
And as for the second point, looking back, I may have given the wrong impression.
My point behind bringing this up is that Tynne, St/GM Serenity is barging in and badmouthing a server he played on, and badmouthing the GM team, all the while, as an Admin for
another server... one that has, as you said, a shady past of its own.
I don't want to bring up the Euph discussion. I had no intention of doing so.
My point is that Tynne needs to seriously think about what he's doing here. Should I make a EuphRO topic that badmouths that whole server in return?
Not only do I not want to, but I have no reason to either. I even played on that server at one point, shortly before they had their huge issue that shut the server down.
However, it's EXTREMELY bad form, as an Admin of another server, to come in here and take shots at aRO and the players like this.
I don't try to go and debase him in front of his players, or even in front of RMS, and neither should he.
Like I said, I could only hope, I suppose, that he might be decent enough to extend that same courtesy.
But, in typical fashion, he's not that courteous, no matter how many cutesy emotes he throws out.
Beyond that, you're still right. There are definitely GM behaviors that aren't something I can support. +10 SQI Gears? Yeah, that's not quite right in my book. I've confronted the GMs about it, and in the end, it doesn't change a whole lot about what they are, or are not, capable of as players, when on legit characters. Oh noes, +10 Sleips? That's a whole 4 more points of DEF.
And I know for a fact that the +3 award on those Kahos was done prior to becoming GM.
Again, you are right, there are definitely things wrong. But the GMs are people. Don't pretend for an instant that you would be a perfect GM yourself (I know you're not saying that at all)... I know I wouldn't be either. In fact, case in point, nobody in this thread would be.
Would they be better than Debbie? Or Harken? That remains to be seen. The fact remains that while there are things wrong with it, you honestly can't expect things to just magically because of your guys' little crusade.
The GMs do a damn fine job, along side, and in spite of, all of these claims you make against them.
Could it bet better?
Definitely.
Will it get better if you come off like this, making verbal attacks on the server?
Definitely not.
I think that there are a hundred better ways you could be going about putting this information out, and putting out what you think of the server.
I know that not even all the GMs agree about how things should be run, nobody expects you to either.
I never once saw a polite and personable thread in any single section of the AnimaRO forums that presented any one of these problems one at a time, and with an amount of dignity that would make it not be seen as an attack, and immediately deleted.
I never once saw a thread in suggestions that said, "Hey guys. You know, I've noticed that there are a lot of GMs that seem to be using what must be GM summoned items in PvP, and possibly even WoE. You know, I think measures ought to be taken to remove any items that might be even close to illegit, and find some way of insuring that GMs don't summon more behind the rest of the teams' backs. What do the rest of you guys think about this?"
Nope, not once. I even looked back at the deleted threads, and there's nothing. Not a single thread even comes close to personably written.
If you would take the time to come up with a way of putting this info out that WASN'T a giand assault, you might see better results. Did you contact the GMs individually about it? I'm guessing not. I could be wrong, you know, but it still comes down to the fact that there ARE simpler, more effective ways of handling this info that DOESN'T make you look like a bunch of asshats.
But that's just me. Go on about your aggression towards AnimaRO. Don't let me stop you.
Not like anyone could, anymore.
Winning your case? What are you a legal lawyer going to take all the credit for animaRO? You WIN!
By the way, come on guys, that's a sure fire way to get this thread taken down, and what's here does need to be said. I can only hope yC deletes that, and not the thread. This thread as much as the GM's and other people that are in love with it don't want to admit it, needs to be seen. Do people who smoke cigarettes need to know all the harmful chemicals in them? Sure. Will they still smoke them? Prolly. The fact is the people who won't might have if they didn't know. If you lose people to these posts, I can only blame you.
And Gene, NUMEROUS times it was presented that the GM bot team run by 'osaka' (Who was just a scapegoat) and each time it was ignored. How MANY times did Rylia (Rydia? I forget her name) post in the bot forum. Each time it either got "They passed" Which was a crock... or ignored. How many times did I post? I finally said f*** this and wasn't so freaking nice about it. FINALLY something was done when I wasn't nice. We couldn't go into Alde in WoE for 5months!
I have mentioned to several GM's that BlackTalon using gear, loaning gear (for even a fraction of a second), on a NON-GM character is wrong. Nothing happened? He still does it. I had to deal with tons of people coming to me b**** about a guy showing off a +10 valk shield. I b**** to Harken to look into it? Black Talon.
Truth be told, I have been more docile about Seigi and Fu. The minute Harken opened his mouth and was like 'We know who bots and frauds' in IRC, and didn't ban them that night.... I was like you know you really should. That was three weeks ago? If not longer? Fu continues to this day. Just f*** ban him and his kore buddies. Or do they get some sort of reprieve for using cyborgs over pure botting? Because I see bots banned all the time. Not them. At this point I'm tired of being nice. That's why I was banned. For saying the GM team needs to get off their donkey and do something about their server. It's been long over due.
How MANY times did I mention that megs and suiken are SO f*** overpowered that it GLITCHES the game? I can't OrcLord anymore? WTF? That's server class balance issues. For months it went ignored. Every time people posting in the bug sections, suggestions sections, etc. Ignored. The GM's used this in pvp to gain a quick heal. Only when someone trounced them using the same tactics did it get attention "Hey this isn't fair, i'm dying!" Now what do you know? After 6 months of abuse, the GM's are getting around to it. Had they listened to people in the first place it wouldn't have been so broken. Orc Lord and GR are two saving graces to an asura. Orc lord heals them now. Reduce it and still probably die, or... die. Great choices for balance.
The GM's are not perfect, the problem is they are corrupt. There is a difference. Not perfect is Harken b**** at me on the forums over game play mechanics and as much as he claims to know everything, being wrong. Or me suggesting that paid announcements are too much and calling me a crying b****? He just recently apologized to me over that because it was too much. But that's a minor mistake. Corruption is Chiyo playing favorties, Rosalind warping illuminati, Sachi and Debbie in Elysium doing unethical stuff in WoE. In fact at this point I can't think of a single GM that isn't legit. Calbee I suppose, he's the only smart one to either not do anything, or not getting caught. Fae, while a cool kid, is FAR from legit.
I've no part in this debate. I really could care less, I'll just stick around the Anima forums. Just thought I'd throw this out there:
http://www.animaro.com/forums/index.php?topic=32351.msg249088#msg249088
I'm absolutely sure Debbie is this "Philip Mak" she supposedly is, but in any case, it really doesn't matter, just ensuring this point isn't played upon any further.
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 23, 2006, 01:22 PM
Winning your case? What are you a legal lawyer going to take all the credit for animaRO? You WIN!
By the way, come on guys, that's a sure fire way to get this thread taken down, and what's here does need to be said. I can only hope yC deletes that, and not the thread. This thread as much as the GM's and other people that are in love with it don't want to admit it, needs to be seen. Do people who smoke cigarettes need to know all the harmful chemicals in them? Sure. Will they still smoke them? Prolly. The fact is the people who won't might have if they didn't know. If you lose people to these posts, I can only blame you.
And Gene, NUMEROUS times it was presented that the GM bot team run by 'osaka' (Who was just a scapegoat) and each time it was ignored. How MANY times did Rylia (Rydia? I forget her name) post in the bot forum. Each time it either got "They passed" Which was a crock... or ignored. How many times did I post? I finally said f*ck this and wasn't so freaking nice about it. FINALLY something was done when I wasn't nice. We couldn't go into Alde in WoE for 5months!
I have mentioned to several GM's that BlackTalon using gear, loaning gear (for even a fraction of a second), on a NON-GM character is wrong. Nothing happened? He still does it. I had to deal with tons of people coming to me b*tching about a guy showing off a +10 valk shield. I b*tch to Harken to look into it? Black Talon.
Truth be told, I have been more docile about Seigi and Fu. The minute Harken opened his mouth and was like 'We know who bots and frauds' in IRC, and didn't ban them that night.... I was like you know you really should. That was three weeks ago? If not longer? Fu continues to this day. Just f*cking ban him and his kore buddies. Or do they get some sort of reprieve for using cyborgs over pure botting? Because I see bots banned all the time. Not them. At this point I'm tired of being nice. That's why I was banned. For saying the GM team needs to get off their donkey and do something about their server. It's been long over due.
How MANY times did I mention that megs and suiken are SO f*ckING overpowered that it GLITCHES the game? I can't OrcLord anymore? WTF? That's server class balance issues. For months it went ignored. Every time people posting in the bug sections, suggestions sections, etc. Ignored. The GM's used this in pvp to gain a quick heal. Only when someone trounced them using the same tactics did it get attention "Hey this isn't fair, i'm dying!" Now what do you know? After 6 months of abuse, the GM's are getting around to it. Had they listened to people in the first place it wouldn't have been so broken. Orc Lord and GR are two saving graces to an asura. Orc lord heals them now. Reduce it and still probably die, or... die. Great choices for balance.
The GM's are not perfect, the problem is they are corrupt. There is a difference. Not perfect is Harken b*tching at me on the forums over game play mechanics and as much as he claims to know everything, being wrong. Or me suggesting that paid announcements are too much and calling me a crying b*tch? He just recently apologized to me over that because it was too much. But that's a minor mistake. Corruption is Chiyo playing favorties, Rosalind warping illuminati, Sachi and Debbie in Elysium doing unethical stuff in WoE. In fact at this point I can't think of a single GM that isn't legit. Calbee I suppose, he's the only smart one to either not do anything, or not getting caught. Fae, while a cool kid, is FAR from legit.
LOL. You know. You're right. Proving or winning my case maybe wasn't the best analogy, but it serves to discredit haters more specifically. As far as I'm concerned, the truth is just that, and should be seen. You're absolutely right. But when people post things specifically to discredit or injure something, it's not right. I'm not saying that the OP did that, but someone on this thread honestly has a personal vendetta. Which is plain wrong, and even you, Vivi can admit that.
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 23, 2006, 09:36 PM
Because it's not my style to go around running off at the mouth letting everyone know what goes on behind the scenes.
Except for the readily apparent fact that it
is your style, seeing as you do it at any available opportunity.
If it wasn't your style to shoot your mouth off whilst trying to blackmail people, you wouldn't be posting in this thread in the first place.
Seriously, you're the biggest snooping name dropper I've ever seen in my
entire life. You never seemed to have any sort of trouble with running your mouth off about
anything. You would always jump at the opportunity to point out that you
really know what's going on, and you went to great effort to collect as much "Sensitive" information as possible... and now, to absolutely NO surprise, you're proving, once again, that you like nothing more than the attention garnered from acting as if you're 100% in the know, and in the right.
I honestly can't comprehend what it must be like to live in that little world of yours, where everything revolves around Tynne, and the things Tynne likes. There's a point at which something stops being human nature (The nature to look out for oneself) and transforms into being nothing but outright selfish egotism.
You're seriously more of an egoist than Orguss. And I mean, hell, at least he admits that the has the tendency to be an a******, and that he's rather fond of himself.
With YOU, on the other hand, it seems to be all about how you're always right.
When you played Anima, you professed yourself as the most loyal player to the server, ever... heck, from what I understand, you STILL try and claim that you're loyal to the server... even though, you know, you left AnimaRO to become a GM on another server, and as it stands, you seem to be doing your utmost to kick this one's legs out from under them.
It honestly amazes me that you're able to remain an administrator, of any kind, for any server, when you demonstrate this kind of behavior.
"Hire GM Serenity, he'll make sure not to keep anything you trust him with confidential!"
Lowest sort of person I can imagine. Have fun in "Tynne-World", where nobody will realize that you're a manipulative, conceited, and self-sainted liar.
As a supporter of AnimaRO, I felt that I, too, should give my views on this review, since it is, in my opinion, biased and completely unobjective.
I have been playing on Anima for almost 7 months now. I have experienced good and bad times on the server and, the bottom line is that everything that is contained in the OPs review is true about any top server, with a few exceptions which I would like to comment a little further on.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
General
First of all, the server is run off a donation ad system. You do ads, free trial offers, or paid offers and those companies pay the server, and the server gives you "ads" redeemed into MVP items. As you can imagine, this creates a gigantic class imbalance.
This is not what causes the imbalance, since anything that you can donate for you can also purchase ingame. I have pretty decent gear and, being in Europe, I am prevented from doing ads. Yet I have worked hard, played hard, leveled my character and earned everything I have - ingame. I can stand up to some pretty top-tier players ok and I don't complain. That's part of what makes it satisfying, is knowing that I can still do it despite the obstacles I am faced with.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
If you are looking for quality PvPing, you will not find it here.
Define quality PvP. I think you'll be hard pressed to find any server with quality PvP. If you do find one, perhaps you could share so we could compare. Otherwise, all your statement is based upon opinion and not necessarily fact.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
If you use any sort of magic, someone will pull a Golden Thief Bug on you, kill you, and say something retarded like "pwned noob". Due to massive amount of custom MVP cards too (+20% to all types, +65 damage weapon cards, +50% HP boot card, +10 def armor card, ), sins/sinx are one of the easiest classes to PvP with and is the most overplayed class.
It takes skill to overcome someone wearing GtB. That's part of the fun. Just because you don't necessarily have that skill, it doesn't mean nobody else does either. Nor does that make the server bad just because you cannot handle it.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
The player base quality is EXTREMELY low, with less and less mature vets and more and more beggars/exploiters/KSers and the occasional player who throws in lots of real cash to try to talk smack.
Again, this is based on what - your personal experience? That is opinion, not fact. Personally, I disagree with you. There are many good players on Anima who are in it for the spirit of the game that I know of. I won't deny the problems that exist in relation to some people but again, that is true of each and every single server out there. I don't think that singling this particular one out serves any purpose other than to show your own bias.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
They also add this ad incentive to vote for the top 100 lists, which is the reason why you see this server on several Top Lists.
Look again. That is not true.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PMBalance
Horrid. Aside from the massive availability of MVP cards, and some of the custom cards I describe above, the GMs attempted to make SQIs (Super Quest Items). Champs on this server do up to 25000 damage Throw Spirit Spheres with a 20000 asura on a fully reduced target, Lord Knights do up to 17000 Spiral Pierce, etc etc (Average HP is usually 12k [spellcasters] to 21[stalkers] to near 30k for Paladin/LKs. Any player input directed at the GMs are typically ignored. The ones in charge of balance are extremely elitist in nature, and will throw theory at you and will attempt to fit in an insult on your player skill if you question their designs. In fact, one select top GM has engaged in many flame fights with players and had to be told to tone down by their own player forum moderators
You base this on what exactly? Once again, your personal experience? That is hardly objective. I have never seen a champ do the kind of damage you mention. As for GMs spawning whatever they feel like spawning I have one question for you. How does what they do or don't do affect YOUR OWN PERSONAL gameplay? How does it affect your development as a character? Does it prevent you from leveling any faster and reaching the level 99 trans objective? Does it prevent you from going to Arena and doing the Super Quest and getting your own SQIs? No, it doesn't - so what is the problem?
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
GM Corruption
Aside from the unprofessionalism I mentioned above, the GMs have engaged in completely selfish behavior. A while ago, they helped their favorite players and friends by giving them top gears, leveling help, botting programs, and such. Several GMs , include the server owner, created a bot army of 99 trans with top gears to rule WoE. Many veterans quit because of this. There were also other players that were on good terms with GMs and allowed to bot, and given bot exemption from the resident GM bot hunter. The GMs and Players who exposed this were banned and silenced. The Top GM (Debbie), being a longterm bot program writer for OpenKore, created a champ with top gears, auto bot aim lockon, and programs to autoswitch armor and regain asura status at maximum speed. It was reported many times for botting but as it was the GM's own playtoy, it was always claimed to be "legit" by the other GMs. Since then, the leftover helped players are either GMs now themselves or have been given namechanges so they could meld it. Due to this, there are massive amounts of corrupt gear on the server. Due to the utter denial of any wrongdoing, these botted chaacters and equips were never removed. As you can imagine, this caused a massive exodus of veterans
GMs in General
The top 2 GMs give the fascade of being 2 female players who like each other. Pathetically, most of the newer players believe them and constantly support them due to the female status. The owner, GM Debbie was exposed as a male and a RO bot program writer, but anyone who said this was banned too. There are several other GMs, but they generally just cause lag with lame events or massive unorganized summonings.
Before you come crying that "oh but it's not fair and it's GM abuse" I would like to remind you that this is what life is all about - it's about survival of the fittest - you kill or be killed. If you don't like it then that's too bad - it's not going to change. This is also something that you find on each and every single server out there and
it is not going to change. I find finger-pointing and smear campaigns particularly low and useless. If you think that by saying all this about the GM team you're going to have everyone leave Anima, I think you'll find you failed your objective because, again, this does not affect the general populus much and, funnily enough, makes no difference to how the game is played. We still have fun at WoE, still get to take and defend castles and HAVE FUN - regardless of what is said about "who did what".
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
Partying
Nearly nonexistent. Due to custom MVP cards, almost everyone is a soloer. No high level players party except for Lighthalzen and Odin. If you are looking for quality co-op, you won't find it here. Due to the extremely solo nature, WoE is extremely lacking in cooperation even among top tier guilds. People make a lot of 1vs1 classers and very few people play support classes, and fewer play it well
Again, I find this statement completely subjective to personal experience. Did you interview the 2000+ members to get a general consensus? How in the world can you make such a claim without valid proof to back you up? If you really played on Anima for 9 months then you KNOW that what you said there is a total lie. Those who solo do so out of choice. Most people party with friends or guildmates. As for few people playing support classes - you got to be kidding me! Next to sinx the most popular class is priest! As for them playing it well - only one who is qualified to judge can define well - otherwise it's just you voicing your opinion and again, I disagree since I've seen some awesome priests in action and I am proud to learn from them and apply what I have learnt from them and use it on my own High Priestess.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
Friendly Server? Hardly
Despite the claims on the front page to remove disruptive players, the GMs actually do very little to stop them, unless they are blatantly yelling racist remarks repeatly. They will let botters and rule violators out if they pay an ad payment, usually with a namechange to prevent repeat reportings too. Hardly any violators will actually be ever removed. Also, they will let players flame at each other but in their own words, they want rivalries as rivalries create more donations for them.
That is a flat out lie. If you want proof, just have a look at the anima forum - look at the bot ban list and the GM violations logs. Those two are just a small percentage of the offenders that are punished on a daily basis. As for your other claims about ad payments - perhaps you would care to fundament your accusations with proof? Otherwise it's just speculation and nobody would be foolish enough to believe without fundament.
Quote from: Senor on Oct 22, 2006, 08:18 PM
Lag
Lag is a constant problem. There are lag spikes everywhere, in PvP, leveling, WoE. You can't complain about this because once you do, tons of people who are in love with the illusion of female game player GMs will flame you hard, and in groups.
Lag has been a problem, yes. I won't deny that. There was a particularly bad month where it was especially nasty. EVERYONE complained about it and you know what? It's been fixed. The GM team listen and acted accordingly to fix the problem.
My conclusion:
Every server has its problems, its politics, its "cliques". Every GM on every server knows and accepts that someone out there will try to nail him/her for the smallest thing. It comes with the territory. There is no need to go digging up dirt on the GMs just because they are GMs. I don't know any of the GMs on Anima, I am not friendly with any of them but I have seen them in action and I do see that they work hard to satisfy a demanding and often selfish and childish community. I've played on other servers where there was the same type of smearing going on and you know what? I still prefer Anima. Why? Because it's not a hacked up version of the real thing (and even the real thing has more problems that Anima does - in ALL aspects). Bottom line, if you don't like what you see on Anima, that's fine. Nobody is forcing you to play there. Those of us who choose to remain faithful to it will live with all the things that happen there and will continue to do our best to make it a better place. There ARE many friendly, helpful people on the server and I am proud to be one of them.
On a side note, Tynne and Orguss - I can empathise that both of you are upset about things that happened to you but, Tynne, especially you. I cannot begin to describe the disappointment I feel for someone I once had such great respect for. I am really saddened by your posts in this forum. Orguss, I know you have always had very firm views on your opinions. Many people respect you for that but you could have, and should have handled things in a different way.
To everyone out there. Remember one thing. Don't believe everything you hear unless you experience it for yourself. Anima is a fun place to be with a GOOD GM team and a good community. Say what you will, flame as much as you like but that is MY experience and I am sticking to it.
Brenna, everything Senor said was at ONE POINT, true. It may not be at this point, but you honestly can say they never gave credit to vote on the top100? That's why they got their account frozen from like 4. So yeah, now they don't, because the top100 got tired of seeing people getting paid to vote.
PvP is stagnant. That is also true. Why? Every class sticks to two things and that's it. Why? Because that's all they are presented with. A Nibelung equipped knight will spiral pierce all day because it is stupid effective. A champion will TSS and Asura because a suiken+megs champ is so broken it glitches the freaking game. ALL you can do on a champion is wear GR to reduce the asura, but even that can still kill a decently reduced player. 25k asura damage on a GR + Thara is not that unreasonable to see. Deviling less, so.
SQI tried to balance out classes but the GM's messed up so much that it's not even worth it. Staff does nothing to help a wizard against GTB. Knights just power out spirals for uber damage. Evangelist makes people not know how to play priests. They forgot how to play support. And classes that could USE a buff, got s***. Read: Sage and Dancer. Both support classes that, on animaRO due to the huge imbalance of MVP cards, their roles are almost nil, their SQI? Sucks. Horribly. "We're looking on changing it" 6 months later, still nothing. Good going. Give Champs a really good SQI because they needed more damage output... and give a Gypsy.... nothing.
You are prolly not a top-tier player and don't pvp as much as Senor or myself do... for a gear-kiddie that just likes to click AD, Asura, or Spiral and win, animaro is the best place to be on. This server is, and has always been a solo PvM, and pvp server. PVP no one helps, which is why GTB pisses off so many wizards and sages and hell even priest and paladin to a degree. Look at PvM, LH3 mvps are soloed all day long for at one point billions of zeny to people. Any of the other mvps that would require teamwork? Crap drop rates and EXP rates. Fun stuff.
Soloing for the win.
And Brenna, I went the appropriate way for a month or two. I'm tired of hearing "We'll ban the bots soon, we'll remove frauded gear soon, we'll implement Meg changes soon, we'll reduce the lag soon; soon, SOON, SOON!" And at this point, since I was banned without just cause, I don't need to still my tongue, ever.
I give the GM's a month to do something they say needs immediate attention, after that it's ridiculous. "We know that certain SQI suck, and others glitch the game, we are testing them RIGHT NOW" 2 months later... If the GM's were doctors in an Emergency Room, they'd have the highest mortality rate in the world.
Orguss I don't refute anything you say in your post but the point is that everything that you say does not mean that the server is crap just because things are not done the way YOU want them to be. I understand that you feel that things are taking too long to happen and yes, that may be so but the point I am trying to make is simply this. There are 2000 + people on that server. out of those, MAYBE 100 are top-tier - the rest are just your average joes wanting to have fun and play the game. These issues possibly touch those 100 that I mentioned because they are the ones that you will find camped out in the PvP maps all day long. Those are the ones who are so thirsty for glory that they may do whatever it takes to reach the top. Those are the minority. For everyone else, the server is just like any other. The GMs are active, they reply to their tickets, resolve their problems. The forums are active with ever more mature people WANTING to help. THAT, in my opinion, is all that 2/3 of those 2000+ people care about.
No, I am not a top-tier player in the sense that I have no leet gear but I know enough about playing my class to give even the good guys a run for their money. I may not know everything that is going on "behind the scenes" as Tynne put it, nor do I care or even want to know. Why? Because it's none of my business. I remain on Anima because I choose to do so. If one day I no longer feel that way, I will quietly take my money and my leave. I won't go around badmouthing something that gave me some degree of happiness, which is the ONLY thing that saddens me about you and Tynne's posts. I agree that if you were banned unjustly then you have every right to be pissed about it, but washing dirty laundry in public never got anyone anywhere.
Quote from: Xennith on Dec 22, 2006, 03:09 PM
There is a gigantic fuss being raised by a number of malcontent individuals whom are not happy with their AnimaRO experience. They expend a vast amount of effort... IP changed, Ban evasions (...)
I wuv you too ^.^
And I can see that Flameke is still a GM butt kisser as ever. Maybe even more than ever but who knows.
Sad thing is that I got banned for repeating more or less what Orguss said but oh well. I'm stiupid cause I can't keep quiet, meeeeow =^.^=
http://www.tynne.co.nr/ (http://www.tynne.co.nr/)
As for GTB, goddamn you don't know s*** - stop repeating what retarded elitists say. Even the GMs concede GTB is autogank in PvP against a spellcaster.. Orguss is the last strong hi wiz in recent times and he has extreme trouble fighting GTB. And he has two attacks against GTB backed with SQIs.
I have been PvP active on different servers and been with playing with multi-server players.. Player community is low. Go on any other forum server. Chances are, there'll be no people yelling YOU FAIL.
I'm not saying the ads cause the imbalance, even though there is admitly a large amount of fraud, by admission of GMs themselves. I'm saying the ITEMS cause the imbalance.
There WAS an ad incentive to vote WHEN I WROTE IT. READ THE DATE. As orguss said, this is what I thought at that date. Ever since, I've seen posts where people try to convince people to vote due to its slipping rank.
If Anima was truly a great server, then it wouldn't have to defend itself/have trolls come here and defend it. It is widely spread throughout the RMS community that Anima is a 'no-go' place. Please stop trying to flame/cry about people spreading the word. No one ever asked you to come.
Quote from: Colonel on Dec 24, 2006, 04:28 PM
If Anima was truly a great server, then it wouldn't have to defend itself/have trolls come here and defend it. It is widely spread throughout the RMS community that Anima is a 'no-go' place. Please stop trying to flame/cry about people spreading the word. No one ever asked you to come.
Just like you don't want us "trolls" here defending something we love, we don't want you here badmouthing it. It's a two-way game that both parties are quite capable of playing. You have your reasons for hating the server. We have ours for loving it. If you're not happy there, leave and don't go back. However, let sleeping dogs lie. There are those who enjoy being there. I've said my piece, haven't flamed anyone, heck - I don't even totally and completely disagree and I am still faithful to anima and my friends there. I will continue to fight for a better community. I am just saddened that two respected members chose not to fight the good fight with the rest of us who are still at it and still get what I feel is the beginning of a name-calling session coming on because we're here to defend something we believe it - even if you, personally, don't agree with it.
Quote from: johnlikewha on Dec 25, 2006, 01:32 AM
omg emmy just became more leet than me
OMG, I don't even know who you are. So I guess you are no one. By the way, I was known on aRO as Aegis (lvl 99/70 Palaldin) or Emeralda (79/49 Creator).
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 24, 2006, 05:23 PM
Lol, Emmie you posted my url in your post in tiny letters :3
Here's the url to my AnimaRO experience:
http://www.tynne.co.nr
And I'm officially outta this discussion. Peace~
I was browsing through that thread when I came across this thread that was a rambling post of accusations and blatant hypocrisy.
I just want to address a few things:
1. You accuse GM's of favoritism when you yourself admitted to participating in illegal(or at the very least, unfair) events in the city you spawned in. In fact, you admitted on this page that that was how you transcended.
2. How can you call the game 'unbalanced' when you used an Evangelist for most of your level-99 life there? I personally witnessed you kill a pally with it in pvp and call the guy, I quote, "Truly pathetic" because the guy didn't have good gears. Why is the game unbalanced, Tynne? Because players like you make it unbalanced.
3. You want to personally thank Siegi, one of the most accused guilds in aRO? That guild is full of ad-frauders and botters that are being investigated as we speak; shows what kind of company you kept while you were at aRO. Did you use sight hacks, too?
4. You basically stroke your own ego through the entire thing by calling yourself "the most well-liked person in aRO." That is so incredibly shallow.
I used to like you, Tynne. You were nice and informative for when I first started at aRO about three months ago. I'll agree that some of the GM's are incredibly unfair, but they are not Harken or the server owner; they are your friends that you "love so much" and spawn monsters so you could transcend easier.
To everyone reading this thread, don't believe a word Tynne, or St. Serenity, says. His best friends are some of the worst cheaters in aRO history and they are probably just pissed they got banned for ad frauding or botting. Come see the server for yourself and try it out before basing your opinions of aRO off of the words of a disgruntled former player.
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 21, 2006, 06:57 PM
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi? website? A link to animaRO on it.
Wow Orguss, you just won't die will you? This, people, is a person who was one of the most rude, disrespectful, and pathetic people on aRO. Shoujoai.com is a fan fiction website where creditable authors can post their work. Other than having an advertisement banner at the top of the page, this site is in no way linked to aRO. Orguss is just a player that was banned for being a general jackass and is now having a pissy fit.
Well, as Brenna said the 2/3 of the server population are not directly influenced by SQI issues and such. However the way people get banned, GMs' illegit actions like the besaid -totally unprofessional- concern all the players. The word about the thread here is spreading so fast and most people don't find all that acceptable. It's probably none of their/my business and they/I can't do anything about it. Still i care about what's going and i want it to get better.
All the best.
Quote from: Jaymz on Dec 25, 2006, 01:44 PM
Well, as Brenna said the 2/3 of the server population are not directly influenced by SQI issues and such. However the way people get banned, GMs' illegit actions like the besaid -totally unprofessional- concern all the players. The word about the thread here is spreading so fast and most people don't find all that acceptable. It's probably none of their/my business and they/I can't do anything about it. Still i care about what's going and i want it to get better.
All the best.
The only GM I have ever seen act unprofessionally is GM Sachi, one of Tynne's best friends there, and she helped him and another group of people get to 99 by spawning mvp's in her own 'special events'. Tynne is a hypocritical idiot who is on the same level as people like Orguss and Seigi, both of whom ad frauded and botted their way to the top.
Well i read that some GMs actually admitted to acting unprofessional, so not only Sachi can be the one wrong. Plus i myself saw Aegis going banned for a weird reason. Anyway all that thing is actually sad i really hope it gets better.
Quote from: TRadical Dreamer on Dec 25, 2006, 01:33 PM
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 24, 2006, 05:23 PM
Lol, Emmie you posted my url in your post in tiny letters :3
Here's the url to my AnimaRO experience:
http://www.tynne.co.nr
And I'm officially outta this discussion. Peace~
I was browsing through that thread when I came across this thread that was a rambling post of accusations and blatant hypocrisy.
I just want to address a few things:
1. You accuse GM's of favoritism when you yourself admitted to participating in illegal(or at the very least, unfair) events in the city you spawned in. In fact, you admitted on this page that that was how you transcended.
2. How can you call the game 'unbalanced' when you used an Evangelist for most of your level-99 life there? I personally witnessed you kill a pally with it in pvp and call the guy, I quote, "Truly pathetic" because the guy didn't have good gears. Why is the game unbalanced, Tynne? Because players like you make it unbalanced.
3. You want to personally thank Siegi, one of the most accused guilds in aRO? That guild is full of ad-frauders and botters that are being investigated as we speak; shows what kind of company you kept while you were at aRO. Did you use sight hacks, too?
4. You basically stroke your own ego through the entire thing by calling yourself "the most well-liked person in aRO." That is so incredibly shallow.
I used to like you, Tynne. You were nice and informative for when I first started at aRO about three months ago. I'll agree that some of the GM's are incredibly unfair, but they are not Harken or the server owner; they are your friends that you "love so much" and spawn monsters so you could transcend easier.
To everyone reading this thread, don't believe a word Tynne, or St. Serenity, says. His best friends are some of the worst cheaters in aRO history and they are probably just pissed they got banned for ad frauding or botting. Come see the server for yourself and try it out before basing your opinions of aRO off of the words of a disgruntled former player.
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 21, 2006, 06:57 PM
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi’s website? A link to animaRO on it.
Wow Orguss, you just won't die will you? This, people, is a person who was one of the most rude, disrespectful, and pathetic people on aRO. Shoujoai.com is a fan fiction website where creditable authors can post their work. Other than having an advertisement banner at the top of the page, this site is in no way linked to aRO. Orguss is just a player that was banned for being a general jackass and is now having a pissy fit.
Normally I wouldn't reply to this but I will make an exception since you are ignorant and blindly listen to what GMs say (a.k.a. 'Flameke syptom' or just a 'butt kisser').
Let's start from the end. I would also like to apologize for defending Orguss as I know he would do it much better but oh well.
Orguss was one of the best High Wizards, was very knowledgable and shown more respect to others and was sarcastic only when people deserved it. He was one of the people who actually knew what was happening behind the scene. So please do not talk about other people if you don't even know if it's true or not.
And if you could quote a bit more it would explain your doubts:
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 21, 2006, 06:57 PM
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: ANIMARO.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 19-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 22-Sep-2000
Expiration Date: 22-Sep-2007
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi’s website? A link to animaRO on it.
<Quote> Site owned by Philip Mak. Powered by AniFics.com Fanfiction Database Engine.
Now for the rest:
1. Favourism is favourism. Even though he used that occassion for his own advantage, not only he is to blame but even more the people, GMs who should fight against such cases, are to be blamed guilty of unproffessional behaviour.
2. Not the players are to be blamed for imbalance but people who create such possibilities. GMs knew of that 'imbalance' and didn't do nothing because they were using those items on their 'legit' characters. It IS after all the goal of each player to be more and more powerful. This is something natural. You on the other hand, as a 'player', say here that you would limit yourself so that others could kill you easier? You don't have them, others that have earned them kill you and that's the reason of your anger in this point.
3. I won't make a comment here cause I don't know nothing about that guild.
4. I won't argue here, it's called vanity and false pride.
Also, about that ad fraud thingy of Tynne's doing. A friend of his told me after reading this that he was on St.Serenity's/Tynne's forum account before he got banned and there was a sum of 0.15$. I don't rememeber exactly and I'm not going to state if it's true or not as nothing o nthe internet can be considered as true in the end.
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 25, 2006, 02:23 PMNormally I wouldn't reply to this but I will make an exception since you are ignorant and blindly listen to what GMs say (a.k.a. 'Flameke syptom' or just a 'butt kisser').
Let's start from the end. I would also like to apologize for defending Orguss as I know he would do it much better but oh well.
Orguss was one of the best High Wizards, was very knowledgable and shown more respect to others and was sarcastic only when people deserved it. He was one of the people who actually knew what was happening behind the scene. So please do not talk about other people if you don't even know if it's true or not.
And if you could quote a bit more it would explain your doubts:
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 21, 2006, 06:57 PM
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: ANIMARO.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 19-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 22-Sep-2000
Expiration Date: 22-Sep-2007
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi? website? A link to animaRO on it.
<Quote> Site owned by Philip Mak. Powered by AniFics.com Fanfiction Database Engine.
Now for the rest:
1. Favourism is favourism. Even though he used that occassion for his own advantage, not only he is to blame but even more the people, GMs who should fight against such cases, are to be blamed guilty of unproffessional behaviour.
2. Not the players are to be blamed for imbalance but people who create such possibilities. GMs knew of that 'imbalance' and didn't do nothing because they were using those items on their 'legit' characters. It IS after all the goal of each player to be more and more powerful. This is something natural. You on the other hand, as a 'player', say here that you would limit yourself so that others could kill you easier? You don't have them, others that have earned them kill you and that's the reason of your anger in this point.
3. I won't make a comment here cause I don't know nothing about that guild.
4. I won't argue here, it's called vanity and false pride.
Also, about that ad fraud thingy of Tynne's doing. Someone said to me after reading this that he was on his forum account before that and there was a sum below 1$. I don't rememeber exactly and I'm not going to state if it's true or not as nothing o nthe internet can be considered as true in the end.
As to me "being blinded by the GM's" I don't even know any of them personally. I don't have them on my friends list, I don't email them, I don't have them on any messenger programs like Tynne had Sachi. I'm just a regular player who bases his opinions on what I see.
I see Xenneth, Harken, Faith, Black Talon, and Debbie doing their jobs day in and day out. They answer support tickets, help people, and run events for the good of the community. I see GM's like Sachi run events for the betterment of her own little groups and friends like Tynne.
1. Favoritism is Favoritism, you're right. I was just pointing out that Tynne calling other GM's on it, with no evidence to back it up, and receiving free mvp's from Sachi to be a bit hypocritical.
2. Tynne was a priest. What is a priest supposed to do? Heal, buff, and kill undead. I'll be the first to tell you that SQI's are broken; I hate the things. I especially hate priests that use them to get out of playing their class.
I never accused Tynne of ad frauding. I said he was no better than ad frauders like Orguss and Seigi. That was more a nod to his underhanded personality.
Edit: And you even insult my monkey avatar! How dare you... :(
Edit, Edit: I am not defending this server to get "favorite status" from any GM's. If one even aproaches me with any kind of perks I will screen shot it and make a report to the server owner about it in an effort to get said GM banned. I am here reporting on things I have seen with my own two eyes. I personally saw the mvp events with Sachi and I saw you get mvp a few times. I never saw any announcements regarding them or any listings in the forums about them. That, my poor, poor Tynne, is a fact.
"Harken personally targeting me in PVP on his SinX Amelia"
As much of the BS i see going on in WoE and what not, I can't swallow that. Amelia = Harken!? Sorry but I can't even believe that its him. O_o
As for faith yeah he's not legit, neither is illu and same with rosa but i'm sure lot of old mote members know this and just look the other way. *shrug* its just how it work with these guilds :|
--
as for TR, dude do you hear the stuff you're saying? A lot of this stuff is true, although there is some exaggeration on the part of these people and that this kind of crap goes on in practically every server.
"Plus i myself saw Aegis going banned for a weird reason. Anyway all that thing is actually sad i really hope it gets better."
Yeah I was there, and funny thing Xennith now admits knowing harken in RL right here... funny. /eyeroll
"Tynne is a hypocritical idiot who is on the same level as people like Orguss and Seigi, both of whom ad frauded and botted their way to the top. "
This line i'm a little confused, you're putting Orguss on the same level as seigi as ad frauders and botters? If you are then you're a bit misguided, have you been to PvP/WoE and seen Seigi in action? Hell even Xennith is complaining about then, but calling Orguss an ad frauder? wtf?
Quote from: TRadical Dreamer on Dec 25, 2006, 02:38 PM
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 25, 2006, 02:23 PMNormally I wouldn't reply to this but I will make an exception since you are ignorant and blindly listen to what GMs say (a.k.a. 'Flameke syptom' or just a 'butt kisser').
Let's start from the end. I would also like to apologize for defending Orguss as I know he would do it much better but oh well.
Orguss was one of the best High Wizards, was very knowledgable and shown more respect to others and was sarcastic only when people deserved it. He was one of the people who actually knew what was happening behind the scene. So please do not talk about other people if you don't even know if it's true or not.
And if you could quote a bit more it would explain your doubts:
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 21, 2006, 06:57 PM
1) Debbie is in fact Phillip Mak, major Kore developer and owns quite an odd collection of Yaoi and Yuri hentai web sites.
Domain Name: ANIMARO.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 19-Jul-2006
Creation Date: 22-Sep-2000
Expiration Date: 22-Sep-2007
Domain Name: SHOUJOAI.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS2.AAANIME.NET
Name Server: NS3.AAANIME.NET
Updated Date: 12-jul-2006
Creation Date: 11-feb-2000
Expiration Date: 11-feb-2007
ShoujoAi’s website? A link to animaRO on it.
<Quote> Site owned by Philip Mak. Powered by AniFics.com Fanfiction Database Engine.
Now for the rest:
1. Favourism is favourism. Even though he used that occassion for his own advantage, not only he is to blame but even more the people, GMs who should fight against such cases, are to be blamed guilty of unproffessional behaviour.
2. Not the players are to be blamed for imbalance but people who create such possibilities. GMs knew of that 'imbalance' and didn't do nothing because they were using those items on their 'legit' characters. It IS after all the goal of each player to be more and more powerful. This is something natural. You on the other hand, as a 'player', say here that you would limit yourself so that others could kill you easier? You don't have them, others that have earned them kill you and that's the reason of your anger in this point.
3. I won't make a comment here cause I don't know nothing about that guild.
4. I won't argue here, it's called vanity and false pride.
Also, about that ad fraud thingy of Tynne's doing. Someone said to me after reading this that he was on his forum account before that and there was a sum below 1$. I don't rememeber exactly and I'm not going to state if it's true or not as nothing o nthe internet can be considered as true in the end.
As to me "being blinded by the GM's" I don't even know any of them personally. I don't have them on my friends list, I don't email them, I don't have them on any messenger programs like Tynne had Sachi. I'm just a regular player who bases his opinions on what I see.
I see Xenneth, Harken, Faith, Black Talon, and Debbie doing their jobs day in and day out. They answer support tickets, help people, and run events for the good of the community. I see GM's like Sachi run events for the betterment of her own little groups and friends like Tynne.
1. Favoritism is Favoritism, you're right. I was just pointing out that Tynne calling other GM's on it, with no evidence to back it up, and receiving free mvp's from Sachi to be a bit hypocritical.
2. Tynne was a priest. What is a priest supposed to do? Heal, buff, and kill undead. I'll be the first to tell you that SQI's are broken; I hate the things. I especially hate priests that use them to get out of playing their class.
I never accused Tynne of ad frauding. I said he was no better than ad frauders like Orguss and Seigi. That was more a nod to his underhanded personality.
Edit: And you even insult my monkey avatar! How dare you... :(
Edit, Edit: I am not defending this server to get "favorite status" from any GM's. If one even aproaches me with any kind of perks I will screen shot it and make a report to the server owner about it in an effort to get said GM banned. I am here reporting on things I have seen with my own two eyes. I personally saw the mvp events with Sachi and I saw you get mvp a few times. I never saw any announcements regarding them or any listings in the forums about them. That, my poor, poor Tynne, is a fact.
You do know that to be blinded by GMs you don't need to know them? Just look at the massess of people on the forums. Whenever there is some new post made by them a lot of butt kissers arise. They blindly listen to what they post thinking of them as their Gods (on a side note: humans are their own Gods). The same is with you. You are no diffrent from the massess. Go read Emerson or other works by transcendentalist writers, maybe that will enlighten you.
Also, here and there can be heard a rumour (yes, a rumour, cause there is no way to prove this) spread by the vets and elite of that server that Debbie/Philip/whathever is reading all the logs to see if someone talks about stuff mentioned here. Again, this is just a rumour so please halt your comments which would flame me because of mentioning this.
To your information not only Sachi have made such event. If you played long enough you would know. And since you are still new, according to what you say (3 months ain't much) you have the utmost right to not be up-to-date with what's really going on and to not know some facts.
Another side note: it's proven that Xennith is a noob, even Harken said so.
1. You were rather stating that Tynne is to be blamed. If not than please make your sentences in the future to be more precise, I would be really grateful for that.
2. Again, everyone has already stated and know that SQI's are broken, even your 'beloved' GMs on aRO's forum. By saying that you will be the first to tell me I suppose that you have finally learned it and I congratulate you as there might be hope for you afterall. But I wll say that again, it's not the players fault for the current situation, as it's natural that each player wants to be more and more powerful. Every player should use their gears as most efficient as they can. Same is with priests with Evangelists. They use the best way in their opinion to fight and if you they kill a lot of people that means they in some way succed. The fact that you are no match against priests with SQI doesn't mean they should suddenly throw away their gears and let you bully them.
- Also about Orguss (again). He did say that he did not knew for what he got banned except some assumptions that it might have had something to do with him saying that GMs don't do nothing with botters, SQIs and such. I'm not going to go into details, it was posted ealrier by him.
- I have no idea what you meant by 'insulting your monkey avatar'
- Those are speculations. If you were offered an SQI would you really resist? Would really the right person would be banned?
- Here is something unclear to me: 'I saw you get mvp'. Me? Dear boy, I was already banned (for reasons stated earlier, to be more precise, for making 1 (one) post with a bit of the info supplied by Orguss) before that event even occured. To tell you even more I never knew there was something like that untill today. So this means you are a lier dear sir.
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 25, 2006, 02:35 PM
Harken personally targeting me in PVP on his SinX Amelia
Wasn't Harken = Stratocaster? The one who went from Panda Squad to Zeny Inc to WoE with Xennith while he was still in that guild and not a Raven?
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 25, 2006, 03:22 PM
Don't speak unless you have something to back yourself up with, kiddo. You're not even worth proving wrong, time and time again. =P
Lol, that reminds me of a guy called Lord Teo on the forums. He thought he knew everything about Paladins even though he never played one on aRO. Everything he said was just plain stiupid but amusing. Sadly, his account was deleted after some time for annoying Harken. With what exactly, I don't know, he never answered me when I asked.
Definition: Emmie dreamer was talking to Tynne when he said "And you even insult my monkey avatar! How dare you... " In response to Tynne's: "Take your flaming rainbow monkey and go back to Anima."
Quote from: Jaymz on Dec 25, 2006, 03:31 PM
Definition: Emmie dreamer was talking to Tynne when he said "And you even insult my monkey avatar! How dare you... " In response to Tynne's: "Take your flaming rainbow monkey and go back to Anima."
Oh, than my most sincere apologies. My advice for the future would be to make it look like it's a comment meant for someone else.
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 25, 2006, 03:33 PM
Btw, who were you Emmie on the Anima forums? o.o I don't recall ever seeing an "Emmie" there. x,x
Valkyrie (before a forum accont name change)/Aegis. I had a bit over 3500 posts or so. In-game characters, if you would be curious, were mentioned on the previous page.
I actually hoped you were a rich donator but i realised you are not. =( and oh magic you are a frauder now :p and emmie is Aegis.
Well, I wasn't a donator as well and got some leet gears as well (altough no one wanted to gift me with any). Shame, I was close to getting an SQI myself.
One important note: St.Serenity wasn't banned. He left for euphroRO after receiveing a proposition of being a GM there.
:O, really? What was all that about ad frauding then tynne?
I may hate stupid people, but does that make me a liar? Don't trash what it is I have to say, just because you don't like the 'way' I say it. I have every right to present my info in any fashion I choose. Not only that, this as I've put it before is NOT my first choice. This is the quote I've given to anyone that has PM'ed me to talk. "The GM's will do jack s***, even when confronted, until it costs them money" That is a cold hard fact. Only when people b**** on 'MY' [5th?] post of QuickSilver's bot army, and threatened to quit, did Osaka get put as a scapegoat.
I ad fraud? I'd love to see how ANY one can even smudge my credibility with that. Bot? I didn't. Fraud? Hell I very rarely even did the ads. Only ads I really did as a whole were the tickle ads. Go ahead. Find some dirt on me. I kick kittens.
I lied about the Kaho being in a box? Want to know why? GM's asked me to, to spark more people to buy them. You can thank Harken, again, on that one. Why do you think they REFUSED to answer so many people's requests
to verify? Before you ask what I got out of it... I didn't get much out of it. I was going to sell my 3 kahos + $100 ad credit at much higher prices after I made people spend it all. Funny I was banned before mine and Harken's plan blossomed. Least Harken got what he wanted out of it, that's all that matters right?
As long as the GM's are happy and not-bored in PVP/WoE.....all's right with the world
I'll start with this, if your going to call me an donkey kisser or a GM fan, forget it, because thats already s***. I like Calbee the most and thats about it. Most other GMs have blown if for themselves by not doing their job or abusing their power.
Sachi didnt do her job well, at all.
Faith, random mutes, no matter how small, are not aprieciated (Spelled incorrectly I'm sure).
Just examples.
I would also like to state I was informed about all of these going ons long before this thread even started (I know a vet or 2 who aren't Gene, go figure).
aRO is a game, a game I play online, with other people. They enjoy playing, I enjoy playing, we all enjoy playing the game. Aware of what GMs do and don't do, I keep playing content with the fact that the server is working and that I have the ability to join up with people and do various Ragnarok things.I don't care what the GMs are doing as long as my playing experience isn't halted directly by them. At times it is (Case and point, sight hacking) and it is extremely frustrating, but I just look at the bright side and move on.
We conquer botters all the time, though some have CRAZY advantages, it doesnt bother me.
They will get their s***.
72 botters were claimed just this morning. I wonder how many of those were "top tier" bastards getting what they deserved? More than likely it is. I tend not to believe this whole
$5 name change, we are off your backs
shtick I keep hearing. It is getting old, and even if it is true, at one point I stopped caring. At the point that true players help others to conquer the "no skill hackers." Slowly we gain ground back, and they can't do a damn thing about it. Sure they b*tch they got teamed, but the simple reply is
Stop client hacking.
I believe change is on the way, I may be naive (SpellinG?) but I'd rather be a naive fool than a pessimistic cadaver. That is all I have to say about that.
Now regarding Tynne, I have some things I wish to bring up with you.
Amelia. Not Harken. Amelia is a nub-tier sinx of the level 99 who CLAIMS to be one of the greatest. If you wish you should proxy aRO forums and look at the poster Aryia. She lets her sister play her account, prebuffs FCP (Have the SS for anyone's request), and just plain sucks at her class.
When did we rush you at pront 3? Was that when ToF rushed in, all SQI'd to the ****, and raped some people?
Less than optimal, no I don't think SQI is less than optimal.
Though I do recall one story, when we played Seigi in Alde, and guess who was there? Tynne. I don't care if you weren't trying, were spying, whatever you were doing, I recall winning with our few members at that point. At least at killing you (Where was your vit? Bash killed you) with our ragtag team. This example was to point out you shouldn't be talking about when someone gets beat down with what, because I recall us doing that right back.
I known, and have known, what has been said here, and now I just feel like speaking. There it is. Have at it.
PS: Amelia rule #1
If I lost or wasn't at the top of my game, my sister was playing.
And Orguss just posted.
Guys, HE DOESN'T AD FRAUD HOLY s***. One of the few top tier players who didn't fraud.
Seigi, on the other hand, Yuki ruined it for Seigi.
ok now its my turn did you guys realize that most of this stuff happend like a year ago i started this server in march last year ive almost played for a year. im considered a vet player the GMs are pretty nice (i dont like faith that much ) but anyways, you have to farm your gears to be good if you dont wanna donate. i never donated a dime to the server and i got all my gears by farming the good ol zeny.
in the end with all my farmed gears and zeny i became one of the top stalker players in the server only 3 other players could play stalker just as well(and even better) then me i can name em all for you right now
1) -Lao- which is one of my good freinds from the server
2)Newbie(DoomZ) yet again another one of my good freinds from the server
3)id say Oblvious which to this date doesnt play stalker anymore yet another freind of mine
there maybe alot more of stalker players who can kill me
most of the SQIs mad are balenced (i agree tome needs some work and so does belmot) the only class thats is really out balenced is Champs they can own my old stalker anytime(yes im retired i sacrificed most of my gears to my freind to get SQI)
most GMs are very freindly even BT(Black Talon) who is usally more sarcastic in his Q&A forum topics but hey, you ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer as my mother says. the only GM i dont really like is GM Faith becuase she may abuse her powers at time but overall shes very freindly.my overall fav GM would be out of a list of 4
1) GM Delphine
2)GM Calbee
3) GM eclipse
4)BT(Black Talon)
all these GMs taught me how to play BT helped me with my builds as a stalker and different tactics GM calbee and GM Delphine for being very nice to the players
i may be considered a top tier play i agree but the characters/people who bot ,ad fraud, use 3rd party programs get banned.
all the classes are relativley even and balanced.
i agree with alot of ppl from animaRO when the lag is bad its your conection rate. even when the lag was really bad i had a good connection and the lag wasnt that bad.
so if you wanna start slandering our server and our GMs take the time to make a toptier character like me like i said before i never donated a dime to the server ive done ads before to help me with my gears.so before you start to flame me/my freinds and the server i play on i ask you, Have you played on the server for almost a year have you farmed your own gears and zeny probably not so think before you start flaming and sladering.
And im sorry if my grammar and spelling is off
Mmkay, I do admit that my previous posts were...a bit haughty. Ok, scratch that, they were downright rude.
Not to try and pass blame, but I wasn't in the best of moods.
Anyways, even if these things are true, even if I'm wrong, and Gene's wrong, and anyone else wrong about AnimaRO and the GMs, I do not care. The server is fun. I have many friends there, and a great many challenges. I will not attempt to refute your "claims" against aRO anymore, because you have your opinions, and I have mine.
But my main question is this: Why must you slander a server? Hell, why must you even discuss a server if you no longer play? If I ever got banned, I'd just move on and find something else to do. It's an internet game. It holds no significance on your life (as far as living, earning money, etc goes). If all you like to do is be negative towards a server, then you lead a horrible, horrible life.
As far as St. Serenity goes, I could list quite a few things that you've told me (read: lied to me about) to ruin your reputation on YOUR server. However, I choose not to, because...well, you aren't worth the effort.
***Excuse my spelling errors and grammer, im not that great of a writer but i want to tell you all the truth***
Flamkes first post is completel s***, hes just defending AnimaRo cause he likes the GM.
THERE IS IMBALANCE, you know why? because im part of the imblance, i got sick of going into pvp and dieing to one hit from champs and hearing trash.....so what did i do? Well i live in the us, so i did the ads, i donated, i palyed hard, i got all the items, all the "Super Quest Itmes". And guess what i own flamake, let me see him come and disagree, One tss , 25k total, he's dead, one asura with all reduction , GR+CARNIAL+DEVI, i do 20k, and if u wear devi, my SQI is elemented so my tss will be 50k, and if you dont, my asura is around 50k. No one stands a chance, and guess what ? I DONT LIKE IT. I dont even like champs, but the way the server is and the way its imbalanced , you HAVE to be a champ and have LITERALLY 800+MILLION zeny worth of SQI to own people, OR GET OWNED BY THEM. you want to be a sinx? too bad, ....ASURA ..Bam youre dead, you want to be a Sniper? too bad , TSS .....BAM youre dead. I play this server, and im not gona leave cause as the saying goes "if you cant beat them , join them" but i WILL NOT sit back and let people tell me that this server ISNT corrupted and imbalanced , because it is. Also i been playing for half a year, Take my words, dont play here.
And to Xennith, theres no conspiracy aginst animaro, this is a "rate a server" forums, everyone is intitles to thier opinions, cause thats what its all about.
Theres so much to say about animaro that i dont even know where to start. First of all, why do i play it if i hate it? Because yes i hate it but this was one of my first servers, and i was dum and i didnt know lota servers excisted, and as i played as a noob i got pushed around so much that i got sick and spend SOOOO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT on it that i cant just walk away and leave. I can only join the corruption and be on top with them. Theres no hiding and dening that the server is f*cked up, its all right in front of your face. I been also meaning to let ALOT of s*** that goes around, clear to the public in forums, but i cant cause harken is a no good GM and she will slam the ban hammer ON ANYONE, ANYTiME, FOR ANY REASON she feels like it. She recently banned azrial for some misunderstanding of what she heard, then she was presented the chat log and felt like an idiot and changed the ban to one week. BUT even though the ban was one week, the annoucement was made that azrial was permently banned, Why? cause gms want respect, how do they want respect? through fear. They know that its clear to some of the public that the server is corrupted , BUT hell no the people wont speak out, why? cause send harken in to slam the ban hammer on everyone in sight that breathes.
GEARS: hell yes its un even, i have 800+million zeny worth of gears, 2 megs, suiken , and slieps[1].
and ads being 400k at the moment, how much ADs/US$$ is 800Million zeny!!! Unless you can cought up 1600$$+ in donations , when u play this server, be ready to get floored by top tier players.
PVP/FAVORISM: You will get harassed and abused in pvp to all hell, and the gms will do s***, i used to get harassed all the time, and gms didnt do anything, so guess what, i do the harassing now. Nigger, nazi, faggot, w,e you wana call someone , do it, cause no ones gona care. Post about abuse in forums, heres the responce youll get "Its Pvp, its your choice to go, so were not gona do anything". And thats not bad, it creates a certain part of the game with utter freedom, but THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPNED.......Gm eclipse's ex wife has illegit gears spawned and given to her by eclipse, [which is another issue i wont get into] and My friends Heneko and Genshuko both called her out in pvp and told everyone about it, and guess what happed, they both got jailed for weeks for harasment in pvp.....but wait i though there was no punishment in pvp.......WRONG!!!! The gms can do w,e the f*ck they want, its thier server after all. Need less to say , neither Heneko NOR genshuko play this server anymore, from all the friends i started with, i have ONE left that stayed...and that Azrial, who also warned me NOT to post this because hes scared ill get banned because of how harken abused and b*tched him around, But i want the turth to be out there.
GM ABUSE: Many of the gms will do w,e the f*ck they want b/c they can and will abuse and b*tch you around, i know this because its happened to me. Also the fact is alot of animaro palyers are kids and/or foriegn players, so the Gms are used to being able to be in control and not get retaliation. But were not all kids. Heres my Personal experince with gm abuse. Below is a copy and paste of my entire support ticket i send to animaro about gm faith.
2006-12-15 16:16:23 I really belive GM Faith does NOT qualify to be a GM.
There has been several times that she abused her powers and acted immature over small things, She has harassed MANY players and friends. Her idea of being a good Gm is by getting played to respect her over fear, thats not how gms win respect. There have been several times where she inapropriately kills players .....continuously. Today i was sitting in Pvp and she enters and i say "Ew its faith" as a tease, and her response is killing me and ressuructing, and kiling.....over and over....she did it about 5-7 times before she booted me from pvp. And i udnerstand that Pvp is for fighting and killing, but i Dont understand how gms should participiate in that and kill other plays as they can do it instantly and as much as they please. And since all my other support tickets about previous issues of GM Faith were rejected and ingored i didnt think it would make a diffrence if i send one again or even that any of you would care. BUT further more, when i returned, a stalker full striped her and so i killed her, and thats once i killed her and were hardly even and i doubt it even matters that she died once, but apperantly she felt the need to mute me for 10 minutes. I know that players need to be punished and muted when they do wrong things,....but what did i do wrong in this case, that she didnt do to me ten fold. Also it is stated clearly on the front of your home page that gms do not look at us as palyers and dont want as to tihnk of them as gods but its the other way around as we are your customers and we are all treated with respect. And i am not another kid that plays animaro, i am an adult and a veteran player and someone whos contributed to animaro GREATLY, its very heart breaking that i have to consider leaving this geart server, b/c of the way its being ruined by disrespectful and immature GMS. And i cant stand the way all the gms are playing favorism towards each other....b/c i know for a fact that many of my friends have also been abused by gm faith and that they send pictures and support tickets, and all of you simply chose to ignore and reject it.
I know this will make no diffrence to you, b/c why do you care, its your server and you can do w,e you want huh, but i just want to express my opinion. And also as a request i would like Debbie to see this and a responce from her.
-Picture
Picture of Faith Using Soul Breaker / Muteing.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/rincegeosh/screenAnimaRO053.jpg
Thank you.
GM Delphine
2006-12-15 16:44:31 I'll ask Debbie to speak with Faith about this. Thanks for the report.
rince
2006-12-15 17:47:07 I guess this is how it will end....and noting will be done.
Its not like i expected anytihng more.
My Conversation With Azrial.
The City 0n Film (6:39:20 PM): they wont do s***
The City 0n Film (6:39:28 PM): Faith = Fae, the most respected player ever to play animaro
The City 0n Film (6:39:31 PM): or a friend of faes
The City 0n Film (6:39:39 PM): fae is like the first person to ever make a character on the server
The City 0n Film (6:39:45 PM): hes donated hundreds of dollars
Rincegeosh (6:39:56 PM): so have we
The City 0n Film (6:39:59 PM): he has close ties with the GM's
Rincegeosh (6:40:08 PM): eh
The City 0n Film (6:40:10 PM): he knows them in real life i might even think
Rincegeosh (6:40:20 PM): that favorism
The City 0n Film (6:40:21 PM): theres no way you will get faith in trouble
The City 0n Film (6:40:34 PM): no s*** dude
The City 0n Film (6:40:37 PM): you gotta realize
The City 0n Film (6:40:45 PM): there will always be favoritism on animaro
The City 0n Film (6:40:49 PM): its a private server
The City 0n Film (6:40:52 PM): nonpaid
The City 0n Film (6:41:01 PM): they will always favor the other GM's
The City 0n Film (6:41:05 PM): and players that were here last year
And i guess he was right, i only wish i knew about this before i joined the server and spend so much of my time and effort here. I also belive other players should know about this before having to put there time into a server where they will be abused and disrespected by higher powers. If noting is done , and an apology isnt made by faith, that proves noting but the lack of personality of this server.
Thanks you and i hope this can be resolved in a mature and correct way.
rince
2006-12-15 17:49:32 Edit/Correction.
and an apology isnt made by faith, that proves noting but the lack of professionalism** of this server.
rince
2006-12-15 17:51:55 Also the last time i send a support ticket about Faiths abuse, the response i got was simple "..we like faith"
and i guess thats where it ends, and furthermore my other responses were ignored.
GM Delphine
2006-12-15 18:35:30 I don't see how "I'll ask Debbie to speak with Faith" got translated into "I will ignore you."
I meant it, we will talk to Faith, and if she needs to adjust her attitude towards players, we'll ask her to do that.
rince
2006-12-15 18:48:33
B/c thats how its been in the past....
GM Delphine
2006-12-15 18:53:44 I'll get back to you on this, stop bumping the ticket.
rince
2006-12-19 13:56:56 its been 5 days....and no responce....this is exactly a repeat of what happened last time, and its just going to end like this and im NOT going to just ignore it this time. Furhermore Harken banned Azrial for trying to stand up for me, and further more when it was made into a big deal and a big post was made and the truth was coming clear to the public, the gm team CLOSED THE POST! Also , GM faith [to seem innocent] wrote in the forums that she muted me for 2 minutes, in fact she muted me for 10 MINUTES, and the screen shots i presented proves that, also i could not defend my self in that post b/c of the fact that it was closed. This can turn into something really big if Faih tries to sneak her way out b/c me and my friends have plenty of proof and screen shots of her doing this PLENTY times before. She muted Sothe, Pawn, Azrial, & Me for killing her. Shes also Disconnected me and Azrial and my friends SEVERAL times at ONCE. As i said and ill say it again, if she cant take critizim then she doesnt have what it takes to be a GM, and if she cant take dieing in Pvp, Then stay out [NOT disconnect, mute & ban players]. And if not resolved, i DO want to make this into a forum post, with all the information and exactly what happens behind scenes, b/c the public isnt aware of this and it shouldnt be just ignored and never looked back at with just a simple "i'll get back to you". There are ALSO a handful of other issue in animaro, such as players with gm items, and corruption, and GM/Player relations, that i am clearly aware of, but i cared less for in the past b/c it hardly affected me, but now the GM team is takeing a strike at me and my friends and so you tell me how to respond back......
GM-Calbee
2006-12-23 17:07:09 By dealing with this, we mean that we have spoken to her and made sure this doesn't happen again. She's already been put on probation and anything constituting "abuse" of her powers/position will result in her dismissal.
If you are expecting her to be fired right on the spot, then you are sadly mistaken about how things work here. As long as it doesn't happen again, we will give GM Faith another chance because of her contribution to the server.
As for your threats in the last few sentences, is that a challenge to the GM team?
End of support ticket
- well guess what, they didnt do s***, faith still runs around doing w,e the f*ck she wants, muteing and killing who ever she dislikes.
I would love to tell this all in an animaro forum, but then again comes the issue of Harken and her recklessness, and i probably will be traced into here and be punished but then that will only make things MUCH worse b/c i have oh so much more to say.
If you tyee in animaro.com.debbie/ you will be given access to debbies directory....well not anymore since she traced my ip and found out i accesed it and that she wasnt even smart enough to lock it.
But what i saw there is more than enough to bring animaro down and out.
This is more than just an issue of corruption, legal issues are invovled, were talking BIG TIME, law suits, copy rights, etc.....with a few lawers and a dedicated indivudial, animaro can be a thing of the past and debbie can face some time........but...im not gona get into any legal s***, cause i dont want to that much of a pain, since i do play the server after all. i just dont want YOU to play it.
And one thing about sqi, GUESS WHY IT WAS MADE?!?!? FOR MONEYYY
make god items and have a few flying around, everyone wants one....how the hell are you gona make 200million zeny to afford an sqi?? better start donating buddy.
And yes there are a few OLD players that got all there sqis by playing and farming.
but if you had the choice what would you pick?
1)Donate 2000$ get all your sqi, kick donkey of everyone in pvp
2)work you donkey off for a year , pinching every penny and make your sqis.
And i hear this argument OVER AND OVER AND OVER again that donating is option and no one is forced to do it.
WRONG!! in an indirect way people are forced to donate. its either DONATE or FAILLL.
Thats right, walk into pvp, send back to city before you even realize you just got owned and kicked outa pvp.
And if anyone doubt this, come into my pvp your self.
I'll post more s*** later, as of now im tierd.
You Like mmorpgs? You want to play a nice server? ANIMRO IS THE WRONG PLACE!!!
simple as that.
look, the fact of the matter isn't whether the gm team is corrupt or not, its wheterh people want to play on aRO or not. there's absolutely no need fo r all this cloak and dagger s***. if it is true, let the players figure it out for themselves. seeing as you naysayers are veterans, why should the new players be babied? let them figure it out if its so bad, and let the ignorant continue to enjoy it.
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 25, 2006, 03:29 PM
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 25, 2006, 03:22 PM
Don't speak unless you have something to back yourself up with, kiddo. You're not even worth proving wrong, time and time again. =P
Lol, that reminds me of a guy called Lord Teo on the forums. He thought he knew everything about Paladins even though he never played one on aRO. Everything he said was just plain stiupid but amusing. Sadly, his account was deleted after some time for annoying Harken. With what exactly, I don't know, he never answered me when I asked.
A little off topic, for I will not participate in this argument.
Clarification: Lord Teo was banned for stalking and harassing me. Not for annoying Harken, though doubtless Harken was severely cheesed off by his belligerence.
And for those who said that lag was the individual's problem, it really wasn't. If it was there wouldnt be a need to use dexter's idea to fix it, there wouldnt be a need to read gms' apologies for it, there wouldn't be a need for a hardware update. Actually because everyone admited there was a lag problem. Even better if it was just my problem there wouldn't be mass disconnections, and gappings everwhere. There WERE lag spikes and noone can deny it. And i don't think getting gapped can be better or worse for someone or that it depends on the connection.
Of course things are way better now and lag is rarely seen
Quote from: Jaymz on Dec 26, 2006, 05:49 AM
Of course things are way better now and lag is rarely seen
this is the most important part of your post for the guys that wanna choose a server to play ragnarok...
Quote from: kikyouinthenuts on Dec 26, 2006, 02:46 AM
Have you played on the server for almost a year have you farmed your own gears and zeny probably not so think before you start flaming and sladering.
Yes, I did. More than you can actually imagine.
Quote from: Flameke on Dec 26, 2006, 03:31 AM
I have many friends there
Not to be rude but I'm totally shocked. With your attitude? No offense though.
Quote from: Flameke on Dec 26, 2006, 03:31 AM
But my main question is this: Why must you slander a server? Hell, why must you even discuss a server if you no longer play?
I wuv and miss aRO's forums *sic*
Quote from: Flameke on Dec 26, 2006, 03:31 AM
If I ever got banned, I'd just move on and find something else to do.
I kinda was banned for saying something that was proven here to be true.
Quote from: kikyouinthenuts on Dec 26, 2006, 02:46 AM
in the end with all my farmed gears and zeny i became one of the top stalker players in the server only 3 other players could play stalker just as well(and even better) then me i can name em all for you right now
Oi, who are you anyway? If you are not []Snow[] than show some modesty.
Quote from: kikyouinthenuts on Dec 26, 2006, 02:46 AM
all the classes are relativley even and balanced.
You are talking now about iRO or kRO, and not about aRO, right?
Quote from: slayertr on Dec 26, 2006, 05:59 AM
Quote from: Jaymz on Dec 26, 2006, 05:49 AM
Of course things are way better now and lag is rarely seen
this is the most important part of your post for the guys that wanna choose a server to play ragnarok...
Quote from: Orguss on Dec 26, 2006, 12:23 AMAs long as the GM's are happy and As long as the GM's are happy and not-bored in PVP/WoE.....all's right with the world
This is the most important part for the guys who wanna choose a server to play Ragnarok ^.^
Quote from: Akishira on Dec 26, 2006, 05:23 AM
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 25, 2006, 03:29 PM
Quote from: St. Serenity on Dec 25, 2006, 03:22 PM
Don't speak unless you have something to back yourself up with, kiddo. You're not even worth proving wrong, time and time again. =P
Lol, that reminds me of a guy called Lord Teo on the forums. He thought he knew everything about Paladins even though he never played one on aRO. Everything he said was just plain stiupid but amusing. Sadly, his account was deleted after some time for annoying Harken. With what exactly, I don't know, he never answered me when I asked.
A little off topic, for I will not participate in this argument.
Clarification: Lord Teo was banned for stalking and harassing me. Not for annoying Harken, though doubtless Harken was severely cheesed off by his belligerence.
Oh, I never actually heard that was the reason, everyone just ignored me whenever I asked. My sincere apologies for my misleading post.
@ Emmie
He became something of a taboo subject to my associates and then to the general populace. My harassment report is still floating around on the forums though, complete with screenies and chatlogs and the like, if you want to dig it up. (Forum search works now, btw.)
/offtopic
She's too banned to do it though =/
Tao Gunka Card.. 17 Dollars
Doppelganger Card.. 27 Dollars
Customized Lord Kaho's Horns.. 130 Dollars
Funding admin's sex change... Priceless
This thread has degenerated into nothing more than a flame war by those who no longer enjoy playing on Anima. Gone is any sign of an attempt (no matter how feeble) at an objective review.
Those loyal to the server came to voice their opinions. Those against it have flamed and then some. From what I have gathered in this thread is that those who left did so because they were not happy with the GMs - for various reasons. However, the MAIN reason I can establish is that you all invested time and probably money and then didn't get the results you expected. Now you're upset, sour and possibly even want revenge. It's too bad, really, since you can dig up as much dirt as you like on the GM team at Anima and nothing will really change. Why? Because those who want to be there will continue to do so despite everything because none of what you say really and truly matters. It doesn't affect your average player. So your flames are pretty much falling on deaf ears and only serving to make you look like you are holding a terrible grudge (this is for you, Tynne) and it does not reflect particularly well on you either, being a GM now and all. You accuse the anima GMs of acting unprofessionally yet you are the first to jump on the flame bandwagon and do the self same thing.
@ Colonel - what does the GMs personal likes, lifestyles or anything they do with the money you donate have to do with you? It has nothing to do with anyone. Your last post was really low since it has no bearing on anything. If you donated money you gave it to them. When you give a gift you do so freely and willingly. If that person chooses to do something other than what YOU want to with the money you gave them, that is entirely up to them. If you are not happy with it - you shouldn't have given it to them in the first place.
AnimaRO used to use terms like "gifts" and "rewards" for donating, but now they even went flat out and made a "Shop". If this isn't the design of mass-money hoarding I don't know what is.
A few details:
Those are taken from Euphro section of this site:
Lord_Knight
Played this server for 9 months. 2006-12-26
Don't listen to these people, they're just jealous owners of another server :) It's ok -- their project is dead and Euph is back now and forever!
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Colonel
Played this server for less than 1 month. 2006-12-25
Wow xD! This is a great server, just joined today ^__^ -- wonderful!
See Detailed Rating Rating: 100
Garm_Baby
Played this server for more than 1 year. 2006-12-25
Perfect! Not a better server out there!
Noe look at the animaro section:
Colonel
Played this server for more than 1 year. 2006-12-21
AnimaRO has grown into a pathetic server. Classes are broken, War of Emperium is very boring, no events, unstable AEGIS server running on illegal software, GMs are males who act like females in game, and ban people who tell otherwise.
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Garm_Baby
Played this server for 8 months. 2006-12-25
There aren't 2k players on this server. Probably around 700 merchants/dual clienters, 700 bots, probably 400 people who "stay for 1 day and leave". Don't go to this server! You will be sorry!
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Lord_Knight
Played this server for 9 months. 2006-12-26
Horrible, don't go here. Broken donation system (Tao Gunko for 17 dollars) money hoarding transexual admin. Corrupt GMs. 90% of the population is bots. Don't go here.
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As even uber-stupid guys can easily see there is something wrong here...Come on people,can any server should really deserve 10?what is the basis of this judgement?For those type of people things are judged 2 way:Very good(100) and terrible(0).That type of black or white logic is sign of low IQ.Sorry guys there is no hope for you...Did your gay gm serenity offered you something in exchange?Also there is another funny thing too just look at this site:
http://www.euphro.com/ ...Sponsored by AnimaRO WHAT? They are paying back very nice way...LOL
Quote from: Brenna on Dec 26, 2006, 10:38 AM
This thread has degenerated into nothing more than a flame war by those who no longer enjoy playing on Anima. Gone is any sign of an attempt (no matter how feeble) at an objective review.
Those loyal to the server came to voice their opinions. Those against it have flamed and then some. From what I have gathered in this thread is that those who left did so because they were not happy with the GMs - for various reasons. However, the MAIN reason I can establish is that you all invested time and probably money and then didn't get the results you expected. Now you're upset, sour and possibly even want revenge. It's too bad, really, since you can dig up as much dirt as you like on the GM team at Anima and nothing will really change. Why? Because those who want to be there will continue to do so despite everything because none of what you say really and truly matters. It doesn't affect your average player. So your flames are pretty much falling on deaf ears and only serving to make you look like you are holding a terrible grudge (this is for you, Tynne) and it does not reflect particularly well on you either, being a GM now and all. You accuse the anima GMs of acting unprofessionally yet you are the first to jump on the flame bandwagon and do the self same thing.
@ Colonel - what does the GMs personal likes, lifestyles or anything they do with the money you donate have to do with you? It has nothing to do with anyone. Your last post was really low since it has no bearing on anything. If you donated money you gave it to them. When you give a gift you do so freely and willingly. If that person chooses to do something other than what YOU want to with the money you gave them, that is entirely up to them. If you are not happy with it - you shouldn't have given it to them in the first place.
I agree with Brenna that there were posted many posts which could be considered as flaming posts but what she/he tries to say is that only those who are against aRO are evil and those who defend it fight for justice. I don't really like that image, and if you would read through the pages 2-8 (I omitted the first one cause it's some kind of mistake in my opinion) you would notice that both sides flamed as well as shown some level of behaviour.
I would also like to state that in my case, after I got banned, I don't feel any urge for revange or such. Even more, I still wuv aRO's forums. Altough I would preffer to see myself in this topic as someone neutral who corrects some things and adds additional information as I always did I'm fully aware that for most of you guys there is only black & white and I need to stand on one of the sides. Yeah... I'm not good at defending myself.
Also, shouldering the blame on Tynne is not the way to go. It was already proven that the GMs are unprofessional, so there is no need to accuse anyone. The problem now is, if proper actions will be taken to punish the guilty ones and make sure such actions won't be repeated in the future (altough, it doesn't seem at the moment that anything like that will happen).
This topic is also worth looking at: http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,103.0.html (http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,103.0.html)
Quote from: Colonel on Dec 26, 2006, 10:16 AM
130 Dollars.. Customized Lord Kaho's Horns
17 Dollars.. Tao Gunka Card
27 Dollars.. Doppelganger Card
Knowing that all your money is going to funding the admin's sex change... Priceless
Discuss.
I was gonig to bring this up earlier, actually. If the owner of the server is gay, feminine.. whatever. If s/he got a sex change, because s/he wanted it, GREAT! If the donations to the server paid for it? Good. Why? People are asked to donate. Since this is not a non-profit organization, nor is it a charity, then people have absolutely no legal right to know exactly where their money goes. Do I think it's moral or ethical? No, but then, I honestly don't care, as long as the server does continue to receive the upgrades it has been (2 since I joined, which is fine by me).
Saying that the person likes yaoi or other forms of homoerotica is all well and good, but since when is it cool to insult someone's sexuality or preference. It's a completely irrelevant part of the discussion.
When did this turn into a board for detailed in game balance issue discussion? Matter at hand. It's a bit unbalanced. Profs get ganked in the back end, and many of the SQIs are up for nerfing because the changes are necessary. There is proactive and reactive change going on to make Anima a better server. People on both sides, please stop flaming and making baseless claims, as it helps nothing. It does nothing but make you look stupid. No, I'm not referring to the OP, or most of what Tynne says. But on the subject of Tynne, Your SS are a bit inconclusive. Really pixelated and hard to decipher.
Honestly, let's look at all the points here. The has been some major corruption and harsh attitudes from the GMs. People were unjustly banned (not Tynne, he left to get greater glory on another server, and to escape the favoritism being shown to him, and was subsequently IP banned, which screwed his family out of their play time), and bad stuff ensued. But there is an honest effort to fix all of the issues now plaguing this server. The bots are being removed. Not just the little people's bots either. The Items that are unbalanced are being tweaked for better performance (much to the chagrin of many players), and the GMs have been keepnig their noses out of WoE (if not PvP).
While not all the problems have been fixed, much of what is wrong or WAS wrong with Anima is being addressed, and that is a simple fact
not being fed by the GMs (Most of whom never admitted there was a true problem to begin with).
All I'm saying is the flaming and "You don't know" "NO U" posts are just counter productive to a good discussion. There are always gonig to be small issues, and that's always the case everywhere. I hope that Anima will get a new rebirth. Maybe all the changes are in response to all the attention being brought on them from posts like this one, where the knowledge is getting to wide spread to ban all the offending people and still maintain an income. Maybe they just realized it's time for a change (people do grow up).
You realize even the name Anima suggests a female, trapped in purgatory, bound by chains, in burning torture? You think the Server creator made it up from no where? The server was probably always intended to release the inner woman in them from it's torture. In truth, if people keep donating, what 's really wrong with it?
The situation is a bit similiar to the one of old EuphRO from what I have just read here: http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html (http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html) and the link posted there: http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown (http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown).
And indeed, as slayertr noticed, Euphro is sponsored with the money animaRO receives from people's 'donations' (note the ' ' as they are now donations only by name, check the dictionary to know why).
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 26, 2006, 11:22 AM
The situation is a bit similiar to the one of old EuphRO from what I have just read here: http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html (http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html) and the link posted there: http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown (http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown).
And indeed, as slayertr noticed, Euphro is sponsored with the money animaRO receives from people's 'donations' (note the ' ' as they are now donations only by name, check the dictionary to know why).
Meh. if people donate just to buy stuff in game, they're missing the point of a server anyway. I feel that making a shop was a stupid move on behalf of the GM team.
Quote from: paladin181 on Dec 26, 2006, 11:48 AM
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 26, 2006, 11:22 AM
The situation is a bit similiar to the one of old EuphRO from what I have just read here: http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html (http://ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,375.0.html) and the link posted there: http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown (http://returnersro.wikispaces.com/Meltdown).
And indeed, as slayertr noticed, Euphro is sponsored with the money animaRO receives from people's 'donations' (note the ' ' as they are now donations only by name, check the dictionary to know why).
Meh. if people donate just to buy stuff in game, they're missing the point of a server anyway. I feel that making a shop was a stupid move on behalf of the GM team.
The whole idea of buying +stat and godly items is stiupid as it creates great imbalance in my opinion. That's not what Gravity intended when creating RO. With all those items I can safely assume that even though the rates are low it is not a low rate server. At least it's played like one with at least medium ones. And sadly, even though I didn't donate at all, I got a full set of mvp gears and a pair of nice kahos (I was also close to an SQI) cause as every player I felt the urge to be better and better. And ofcourse I never stood a chance against donators. Even such Azrial who, lets not hide it, was a bit noobish when I was already a Pally, donated helluva lot of money and managed to get nice set of SQIs in a short period of time. I wouldn't mind donations so much if they didn't create such imbalance and divideed the community into non-donators who 'fail' and donators who 'pwn'... whathever.
Colonel, Garm_baby, and Lord_knight flamed AquaticRO's Rate my server board as well and they dont even play here <_<;
they did it right after i posted about the EuphRO wiki :/
Quote from: Abel Vox on Dec 26, 2006, 12:15 PM
Colonel, Garm_baby, and Lord_knight flamed AquaticRO's Rate my server board as well and they dont even play here <_<;
they did it right after i posted about the EuphRO wiki :/
i highly suspect they are the same person just look at the firs post of this page:
Tao Gunka Card.. 17 Dollars
Doppelganger Card.. 27 Dollars
and look at the this comment about animaro:(note that tao card just got implemented to donation)
Lord_Knight
Played this server for 9 months. 2006-12-26
Horrible, don't go here.
Broken donation system (Tao Gunko for 17 dollars) money hoarding transexual admin. Corrupt GMs. 90% of the population is bots. Don't go here.
See Detailed Rating Rating: 10 Report This Comment Comment #2
There are two possibilities:
1)Both these guys continue to read animaro forums/site despite of the fact that they hate it more than anything else in the world(very low probability)
2)Those accounts are used by same person to increase popularity of his own server and thrash talk about others...3X EFFICIENCY!!!(and just reads animaro forums/site to find weakness and attack by using it)
Could someone give me a link to where they post this? I can't find that topic...
In the server review section. Not on the forums.
Those who knows nothing, can understand nothing.
People said the same s*** about euphRO, I saw some interesting s*** when the server went down. Now it's back up and it's being sponsored by Anima.
AnimaRO best reflects any real world society, it is a business, and a damn good one at that...almost as good as my EXTREME LEECHING SERVICES, but not as extreme =P. Still it's a private server thru and thru, of course there will be GM favortism, who do you think runs the place?
Look, I don't have EXTREME love for Anima but so long as I can do the "playing" part for free, I will show you what it's all about pwning people with Sqis. Because I am the mighty Lu Bu.
But ya, don't invest on something you are just gonna be unhappy with, I know I am not entirely happy with Anima, but at least it's free and I get to tease my lesser /b/rothers.
Remember, Anima is free to play, not free to pwn, and there will be no pwning unless you have either invested money/time, ad fraud, or just plain EXTREME. So long as they can provide that reasonably (like no more s*** events that will lag the s*** out of everyone) then I am convinced.
Look outside the box, the game isn't all woe and pvp. (Although it is for me)
Quote from: Lu Bu on Dec 26, 2006, 01:09 PM
Remember, Anima is free to play, not free to pwn, and there will be no pwning unless you have either invested money/time, ad fraud
I totally agree on that part, meeeeow =^.^=
Of course, people always agree with me, I am Lu Bu.
But ya, thats Anima in a nutshell.
By the way, I have totally no idea who you are. You are some newbie or so to the server that I've never heard of you?
Me? I've always existed, so long as theres the internets, I am there.
Eh, well I played Anima at March, quit because the bastards failed to supply me with gameplay (The tech support did s*** to solve my sakray problem). I came back during November and figure'd eh, I will give a shot, it worked and in 1 month's time I've got mostly everything short of SQIs. Hey wheres the ad frauding guilds so I don't have to work? =P
Previously I played on iRO Sakray, I am really powerful there too. The hidden element of RO, raw skills.
(And not get too involved with GM s***)
Now that I've mildly entertained myself with the s***, allow me one more boast on my way out.
If you know me, chances are I've wasted too much time.
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Again, I wish to know the IP's of these three if at all possible. ._.
ip can only be checked by mods/admins but i dont think they read or/and care about this post...if they did,they should lock topic becouse of needless flame war which i found myself in...
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Looks like we've got our first new set of fanatical fanboys ourselves. /wrist.
i agree...
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You three, if you're seriously trying to flub up the new Euph, you're starting off on a very good foot. I implore you to stop flaming competing servers, as it will lead you to no where on our server. D:<
my primary objective is not to engage with your server but to defeat 'funboys'...
I meant that Colonel guy, not Senor.
Quote from: kikyouinthenuts on Dec 26, 2006, 02:46 AM
in the end with all my farmed gears and zeny i became one of the top stalker players in the server only 3 other players could play stalker just as well(and even better) then me i can name em all for you right now
Well if you must know who i am i am indeed not []Snow[] snow quit and sold his s*** to Dolleh but anywas you want to know who i am ask Rince or orguss or even Tynne since i was one of his good friends on the server
My stalker was named Sothe alot of people on animaro refered to me as Sothers or Sother but i am being modest not alot of people know how to use sherwood now adays so can you say this on animaro that you were one of the best skilled stalkers out there maybe maybe not
in my monthss of playing aRO i must have floored more than a dozen sherwood stalkers can you say that on anima maybe maybe not and can you say that you didnt have sherwood while doing it. maybe maybe not.
so ATM there is no best stalker i never said i was the best i said i was one of the top tier stalker players
and since []Snow[] quit Dolleh has his gears and his stalker right now its named []StormyLover[] im pretty sure if her sister didnt help her i probabl could have killed her too.
so now do you know who i am I AM Sothe ask alot of players i know i wasnt the best but i was one of the top ask Tynne he knows who i am
Nope, never heard of you. And I have played since December 05 (let's leave it as a detail that I didn't really play since September or October 06).
And the real thing I'm interested now is: Dolly inherited Snows gears? How is she doing that?! I know that fake cuteness is tempting to you males but puuuulease, seducing so many top tier players like KS or Snow. Even I never imagined she would manage something like that.
Quote from: Emmie on Dec 26, 2006, 02:19 PM
Nope, never heard of you. And I have played since December 05 (let's leave it as a detail that I didn't really play since September or October 06).
And the real thing I'm interested now is: Dolly inherited Snows gears? How is she doing that?! I know that fake cuteness is tempting to you males but puuuulease, seducing so many top tier players like KS or Snow. Even I never imagined she would manage something like that.
she bought em off []Snow[] it was a big conspirecy becuase vash bought it too but she claimed to buy it first blah blah blah now she has his gears but not all of em
Quote from: Brenna on Dec 26, 2006, 10:38 AM
This thread has degenerated into nothing more than a flame war by those who no longer enjoy playing on Anima. Gone is any sign of an attempt (no matter how feeble) at an objective review.
WRONG, i still play it and enjoy it....but NONE of the corruptions and imbalance and s*** that goes on will be ingored, IT EXISITS.
Posted on: December 26, 2006, 09:01:11 PM
Sothe is you average friendly neiborhood noob =]