AnimaRO a low quality server in disguise?

[Orguss]

I find it funny, the minute you speak out against aRO it's rumor mongering. I get a full ban for what? Saying Harken should get off his donkey and remove gear that shouldn't be? Yeah, that's real quality GM'ing. Ban the person who is saying you should ban rule breakers.

I don't care if pmak/kanemi/debbie/jennifer/whoever runs animaRO is, it's the way he runs it. He wants to be a yaoi crossdressing nazi, go right a head. But allowing Harken and his mouth to continue to ruin the game is his biggest downfall.

The GM's admit to botting all day and night, still to this day, but then have this false sense of hypocracy as to who they want to ban for botting. It's either day or night. You gave so many people these 'free rides' and punish some random noob for kore'ing it up in payon dungeon. Yeah, great GM'ing. You want to ban bots? Ban FU, ban mote, get off your donkey and actually do something if you don't like us "slandering your server" We have every right to give a full in depth review to people. If that persuades people to leave your crap hole? I'm sure I'll sleep soundly.

Panda Squad Guild being full of GM's with hacked gear, Himeko; Harken, 1hit1kill; Debbie, Zetsumei; Eclipse... What more do you want? You guys bullied your own server in WoE, tanking full guilds solo by ygging it up and the like. With 500 spawned yggs, who cares if you chug them... you can always spawn more, then when people go WTF, it's "They are legit. They were using cakes, you can beat cakes" Yeah right, you cover up your own crap like that all the time. People complain night and day and you feed them more lies to keep them quiet so you can scrounge another few ad credit off of them before they quit.

Let's see, more... lies... Osaka? How long did people b**** and moan on the forums, provide screenshots, publically announce C-99 and the bot army? Hm? And each time it's either "They passed the bot check" or just flat out ignore them. Why? They are GM's pissing in their own pot. Only after 4 MONTHS of WoE domination did it finally stop. Did you guys get tired of setting up your bots? Tired of people complaining? Or was it the fact that so many people stopped sending money to you because of it.

Why could we not beat a bot army? Or Panda Squad? Well, besides the number being not in favor, and the bots scripting was top notch, it's more GM spawned gear. Every character had mjolnir, and megs, and everything. When Average Joe could NOT get them. Sure they were donation for a bit, but if you missed out, you could not attain them. You were bullying people on bots with gear we could not match. Further imbalance.

But eventually you guys stopped ruining your own server in WoE, but so much damage was done it's not even funny. I finally think things start balancing out... then you go and screw it up again by letting Yuki and his fanboys keep all their gear after frauding for it. It was so much fraud they even were giving people SQI for leaving and coming to their guild. Vash, leader of Decimated Serenity can attest to that. A Twin Fang for joining Seigi? Once more, tons of gear in the wrong hands and the GM team is scared to punish for what might those 5 people think....

The rest of the server is upset just as much as us 'rogues who want to trash your precious server', I'm just banned on that forum for speaking out on that, otherwise I'd grab quotes from the numerous other people at arms over your unethical choices. But, I'm sure at this point, you've silenced them or gave them items to keep them quiet. As long as people are quiet, you get more money, isn't that right?

Which we all know what animaRO is about these days. Money. Money that goes to fund debbie's career and not even a tiny fraction going to the server. "We are not at full capacity, so there is no need to upgrade..." When people are b**** for two months about lag? You may not be at full capacity but something sure as s*** needed to be done and only when people started quitting did it really get addressed.

You all pissed in your pot, now drink it up.

[jTynne]

I lol'd. 

Yeah, I liked Anima, but once I got out from under the whole "donate to be elite" mindset which consumes Anima, I realized just how much more I liked the game, and realized why it was that I had originally played in the first place.

Lol @ the lying faggot comment.

Why so much cursing? o.O Someone needs a hug.

-

See? This is precisely the kind of attitude others referred to in this thread.

Fanatic fanboy.. 'nuff said.

St. Serenity's Anima's Rating: 4/10
+1 for an excellent community of individuals except for Xennith and merahmatriz (two of my  biggest haters, haha)
+1 for the decent non-corrupt GM's that are left (Calbee, Faith, Sacherz, Auyra and Konoka)
+1 for all the time I spent there and for all the friendships I made
+1 for all the amusement I got out of Xennith's thread

^_^ Kisses~

[Flameke]

I lol'd. 

Yeah, I liked Anima, but once I got out from under the whole "donate to be elite" mindset which consumes Anima, I realized just how much more I liked the game, and realized why it was that I had originally played in the first place.

Lol @ the lying faggot comment.

Why so much cursing? o.O Someone needs a hug.

-

See? This is precisely the kind of attitude others referred to in this thread.

Fanatic fanboy.. 'nuff said.

St. Serenity's Anima's Rating: 4/10
+1 for an excellent community of individuals except for Xennith and merahmatriz (two of my  biggest haters, haha)
+1 for the decent non-corrupt GM's that are left (Calbee, Faith, Sacherz, Auyra and Konoka)
+1 for all the time I spent there and for all the friendships I made
+1 for all the amusement I got out of Xennith's thread

^_^ Kisses~

Honestly, Tynne. I respected you far more than that. I could have sworn that you and I were really good friends. And then you go, posting fake, slanderous pictures and profiles. PHOTOSHOP. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?!?

Apparently not.

So congratulations on making yourself look like a retard.

[paladin181]

You know, I don't see what all the fuss is about on either side. Gene, I know you're pissed. Meh. You'll get over it. So what do people really hope to gain from the hurtful remarks? I know most of you know me. A lot of you probably don't like me. For you, you can go kill yourselves. This server has been nothing but good to me. And I've done my best to help it out too. I'm not a big donor, nor am I a GM favorite. But I know how things work in life.

This server makes a lot of money? Who cares? That's their business. No one forced one person to send in any money, nor to click on those sponsor links. So the money issue is moot. People pay the money because they want to.Unless you can prove to me that Phil Mak is strangling puppies with his earnings, then I see no problem with it. Is it illegal? Yeah. But any RO server is.

Botting: GMs botting. Even if it is true, who cares honestly. How does it affect you one way or another? It doesn't as none of you even play there any more. And second off, why would the GMs bot? What cause would it serve? If I'm a GM I can edit anything I like about a character. What purpose would botting fulfill? Thus I find this point a little less than believable. Not necessarily untrue, just unlikely.

On Corrupted GMs and friends: It literally happens every where in the world. My friends, it's not what you know, but who you know. That is the way of the world, and has been for a long long time. If it's true, it's kept discreet enough that most players are never directly affected by it, and therefore don't know about it. Again, I fail to see the point of trying to "reveal the truth" with your "Proof" which in actuality proves nothing. If tried in court, your evidence would be dismissed as circumstantial and hear say. Show me the real proof you have. You have none, except the testimony of GMs that were banned for wrongdoings. The real truth will remain with those who were actually and completely directly involved, and what they choose to tell you could be a lie. In this case, I'll believe the remaining GM team, who claim the GMs were banned for bad behavior and exploiting the player base. If someone caught me doing something wrong and ripped me from my seat of power I'd be mad too. Mad enough to lie to get back at them? Well, I wouldn't but not everyone thinks on the same levels I do. I know some people would do anything to get back at others who they feel wronged them.

So what I'm really trying to say is don't blindly believe rumors because it feels better to bash someone you feel is wrong. You left the server. That's great. I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. But does that give you the base to turn around and start supporting baseless rumors? I know you'll simply spout the exact same thing you have before. The "fact" that Debbie is Phil Mak, or the "fact" that GMs don't do anything positive. Your facts, in the end, are the same thing as this: an attempt to sway people to your side. The truth is, it's all smoke and mirrors, with no support. You post pictures that could literally be of ANYONE on the internet. How does it prove anything? It doesn't. Just as my argument doesn't prove anything. But then, I don't put up the exact same thing everyone before me has said and claim "Others on here have said it, it must be true."

I know you'll discuss this, and try to dismantle it, and even say "Look, their supporter doesn't deny anything!!" And that's right. I don't deny anything. I just don't appreciate the straight out vandetta that others have taken against aRO on the ratings. And just because you say "LOL no I was never banned!" or "I played there for 9 months!!" doesn't make it true. I'm not calling the OP a liar, but nor will I personally believe his claims until I see actual proof. I'm the President of the United States! I bet you don't believe that. But it must be true; I said it on a forum. A little food for thought.

Go ahead. Call me a fan boy. Call me what you like. But honestly, and Justin, this is for you specifically, calling people names isn't the answer. And you've become a lot more.... girly since last we spoke. I feel bad for you. But hey, if that's what floats your boat, good for you.

<snip>
Honestly, Tynne. I respected you far more than that. I could have sworn that you and I were really good friends. And then you go, posting fake, slanderous pictures and profiles. PHOTOSHOP. HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?!?

Apparently not.

So congratulations on making yourself look like a retard.

Wow Flameke. This is the reason why no one believes us when we say it is a good server. Because your comebacks sound like desperate attacks. Maybe they are, I don't know. But being passionate isn't the way to win an argument. At least, not like this.

[Colonel]

Just a correction Paladin, the comment about all RO servers being illegal is false.  AEGIS (which animaRO runs on) is illegal because AEGIS is by Gravity.  eAthena, which a lot of [smarter] servers are running on, is an emulator, therefore perfectly legal.

And seriously Flameke, take your internet catchphrases to where people like you belong [4chan].

[Colonel]

"I posted.

I'm sick of this s***. I'm thoroughly sick of everything that has to do with this "Truth" conspiracy.

If they want to make this personal, fine. So be it.

There's a point at which a man breaks. I feel like I'm coming close to it.

It scares me."

From Xennith in the Raven's Nest guild topic -- posted a bit earlier in the thread by me.

THIS is what you call a fanboy -- someone who is willing to defend a point/troll to the point where he is on the verge of slitting his wrists.  Please, someone, help him. 

[Orguss]

eAthena also has a lot wrong with it. It doesn't truly emulate RO perfectly, which is one of the reasons I joined animaRO. But that is neither here nor there, as even emulators are in fact illegal if Gravity ever wanted to do anything about it, as eAthena has tons of copyrighted material from Gravity..., it's just that... they never will. So that whole statement is moot, really.

And Paladin, this is a review of the server and the GM team. Yes, you don't have to donate to get top-tier gear, but one person frauding for 1000+ dollars gets full top-tier gear in a day for him and his guild mates, does in fact sway that statement a good deal. You don't want to donate? Go right ahead, farm for it. It can be done. The problem is that the AD credit system was just a way to rake in hand over fist money. Money that the server saw very little. Which is a shame, and points off to the server. You don't like that comment? Fine. I'm sure the hundred upon hundreds of out of country people that constantly complained on the forums think otherwise. Ads are not out there for everyone. So it's a lopsided and unbalanced system. Plain and simple.

And I never said I quit the server. I was banned. For who knows what, really, but the basis was 'rumor spreading' which only happened AFTER I was banned for it. If I get banned for something I didn't do, I might as well at least say what's on my mind. Any objections? Oh wait, it's some things the GM team doesn't want me to say. Harken lies on the reasons he bans people. He wants to ban me for being 'a mouth' then say so. He lied about it being a temp forum ban. Temp bans say how much time is left on the ban. But furthermore, my character account was banned as well. Explain how a temp forum ban ends up saying a non-temp full ban. So once I realized I was banned completely, no need to still my tongue. THAT IS when I started 'rumourmongering', a term coined by the GM team to define anything that is said that the GM team doesn't like and/or agrees with.

[johnlikewha]

postpostpostpost, all the facts are there what else can you do? what proofs do YOU have can you really defend it? I have no true thoughs nor do I need it nether am i playing favorites but I need facts and right now.

now tell me prove to me actualy that you can get real information from the GM's Fla otherwise i dont think anyone can believe. True i have played aRO ive hidden myself mostly around the novice players constantly to stay under guild radar and i do agree they do have 1500-2000 members constantly yet adding venders from pront and the venders in payon/dungeon who are duel clienting or just setting up shop i can see we should be able to subtract atleast 700+ active members
leaving the game with an actual 800-1300 people actualy working and playing


Im positive that the ad cred system isnt true ether while lvling up and learing about my other friends whom infact not to say names but have frauded the ad cred to get the good gear amazing eh ad Cred frauds FTW

and aRO is making a shiz load off the frauds

thats all i know im out

johnlikewha~ likewha?!?!?!?

[paladin181]

eAthena also has a lot wrong with it. It doesn't truly emulate RO perfectly, which is one of the reasons I joined animaRO. But that is neither here nor there, as even emulators are in fact illegal if Gravity ever wanted to do anything about it, as eAthena has tons of copyrighted material from Gravity..., it's just that... they never will. So that whole statement is moot, really.

And Paladin, this is a review of the server and the GM team. Yes, you don't have to donate to get top-tier gear, but one person frauding for 1000+ dollars gets full top-tier gear in a day for him and his guild mates, does in fact sway that statement a good deal. You don't want to donate? Go right ahead, farm for it. It can be done. The problem is that the AD credit system was just a way to rake in hand over fist money. Money that the server saw very little. Which is a shame, and points off to the server. You don't like that comment? Fine. I'm sure the hundred upon hundreds of out of country people that constantly complained on the forums think otherwise. Ads are not out there for everyone. So it's a lopsided and unbalanced system. Plain and simple.

And I never said I quit the server. I was banned. For who knows what, really, but the basis was 'rumor spreading' which only happened AFTER I was banned for it. If I get banned for something I didn't do, I might as well at least say what's on my mind. Any objections? Oh wait, it's some things the GM team doesn't want me to say. Harken lies on the reasons he bans people. He wants to ban me for being 'a mouth' then say so. He lied about it being a temp forum ban. Temp bans say how much time is left on the ban. But furthermore, my character account was banned as well. Explain how a temp forum ban ends up saying a non-temp full ban. So once I realized I was banned completely, no need to still my tongue. THAT IS when I started 'rumourmongering', a term coined by the GM team to define anything that is said that the GM team doesn't like and/or agrees with.

Orguss, I never directed anything at you, and you know what, You're right. You have the right to say what you like. I've never been at odds with you (well maybe once or twice over some small stuff). Yes, I prefer to earn everything, yes I just finally made my first trans character 7 months after I fist started playing a 5x rate server. That's a LONG time. I'm sorry you got temp-banned for flaming and someone made it more personal, particularly Harken. At that point, where favoritism works in reverse and gets people banned, I'd have to say it's bad. But on your point, the original post was more of an attack than an actual review. And many of the posts since were also more of an attack. Certainly, it could have been posted in a better way. Perhaps not.

You are all correct in your arguments to my points, and I am glad it didn't become some retarded flame fest. Sure there's problems with our server, and you know what? I'm also pretty sure it's not nearly as bad as people make it out.

When people bandwagon like this (I use the term for a select group of people who are jumping on a case that's gathering steam, not to insinuate you're here simply because you think this side will "win") it often makes some points exaggerated. I've already come to terms with possibilities. If I didn't have friends here on Anima, I may have left. Not because of all the stuff, but because I don't want to be in the middle of it. I don't want this to blow up and have Gravity's attention drawn to this server, to shut it down for something. Some people would like that alot. Those are the people I don't like. Truth or lies, it doesn't matter much anymore. Many of the problems that were complained about are either being fixed (if they're not already beyond fixing) or have at least started to be resolved. The things that can't be fixed, well, that's not my concern. One day it may be, but not right now. And if I get banned for this, maybe I'll spin a 180. But  I want it known I don't blindly support the GM team. Neer have. I'm the one who started one of the topics in Ranters about donors receiving preferential treatment. I'm not completely blind to everything as some of you would believe I am.

But nor am I willing to blindly believe your accusations. Until I see proof of one or the other, I will continue as I have. I just wish you could leave the server alone. That's my only problem with the whole thing.

postpostpostpost, all the facts are there what else can you do? what proofs do YOU have can you really defend it? I have no true thoughs nor do I need it nether am i playing favorites but I need facts and right now.

now tell me prove to me actualy that you can get real information from the GM's Fla otherwise i dont think anyone can believe. True i have played aRO ive hidden myself mostly around the novice players constantly to stay under guild radar and i do agree they do have 1500-2000 members constantly yet adding venders from pront and the venders in payon/dungeon who are duel clienting or just setting up shop i can see we should be able to subtract atleast 700+ active members
leaving the game with an actual 800-1300 people actualy working and playing


Im positive that the ad cred system isnt true ether while lvling up and learing about my other friends whom infact not to say names but have frauded the ad cred to get the good gear amazing eh ad Cred frauds FTW

and aRO is making a shiz load off the frauds

thats all i know im out

johnlikewha~ likewha?!?!?!?

Oh yeah. Like wha? You were probably better off not posting. First off, I know my post was a bit wordy, but it did specifically state I wasn't offering proof. I stated my statement didn't prove anything. I even bolded it for you. I also said the server makes a lot of money. I fail to see your actual point, if indeed your post was in response to me.

[Senor]

Evidence and facts?
As for evidence, I am a direct witness to the botting and exploiting. I speak to people who are directly involved in it.
Let's look at UltimaRO. The reason why it is relevant is because the entire GM team was one single guild on there or an associate of that guild there. Many many dozens of players, including me saw the botting Kanemi/Debbie did there. However, the GM of that server played massive favorites and never banned him, even though he used bots to hold up his MVP summoning sage/dancer/bard/priesttank parties and support. When UltimaRO shut down, Kanemi/Debbie tried to email all the ex-players as he was the forum moderator and had everyone's email and invite them to his new server.
-There's like 1500+ people who recieve the email. There are two servers full of people who have seen the same posse moving around and seen the botting.

Ever since, Debbie's posse has followed him thru UltimaRO and MobRo. Some of them were buttpals and are now GMs and such. However, there lies a population of people along for the free ride who do not care about keeping up secrecy when they quit. You can argue they're totally unreliable and liars, but the fact remains they were never banned, which seems like the ultimate win-all argument to prove they're not telling the truth. They were along for Debbie's winning and hijacking of his own first 99 awards and his level botting. What the heck would you want? Testimony from unbanned members of his guild and posse on who he is and what kind of botting he does? There's plenty of that. lilboi, conneh, H o n e y, etc
-Ask them yourself if you see them on

Itakou/Illimanti (Debbie's play friend from URO) Used Gm accounts to spawn himself equips, botted, and used client edits to hit cloaked enemies. Damn our silly fabrication. We made him not keep his botting secret to his guildmates. Also we must have imagined him TSSing stuff outta cloak. He was forced to be banned for that due to the accumulation of player evidence from him, but the GMs never bothered to ban his +10 equips or his botted priest whitesmith or paladin.
-The proof is that his hpriest runs around all the time, runs one of the largest guilds there

How exactly has their activities not ruined the server? They destroyed WoE for 4 months with their Celestial 99 and Panda armies. Most active PvPers from that era has quit outta fustration.
They are aware of constant botters who use Debbie's programs. They have a good idea of who is ad frauding. These people have ruined present day PvP. They announce their knowledge all the time in irc and forums. Yet they remain unbanned. This info is from their own mouths, not mine

And yes, we managed to use magic to change the hosting site of shoujai and animaro. Freaking voodoo. Any person with moderate computer skills is able to look it up themselves.
-Self explainatory, you can look this up

Apparently, the "conspiracy" managed to set up a fake Paypal account that collected animaro donations under the account name Philip Mak too. The first few months of the server's donations all went to the secret conspirators
-Go ask anyone old enough to donate to this. If they're still around from not being fustrated

You can follow this path and visit VisualKore. Guess who's the owner. Pmak.

The photo. Debbie posted a pic of himself under his own account a while back where he was at game convention. If anyone remembers it, the person from that photo looks the same as from this photo. More voodoo, we must have access to Debbie's Forum name and made him post a pic.
-Go search for the post. If it's deleted, find it and google cache

There are so many things the GMs have said themselves, such as they admitting Debbie has ties to a botting program and most of the GM team are former botters, the things they say in irc. Connect the Dots.

Their own GMs don't even keep a good cap on it. They'll reveal some info, and ban the people later to try to discredit them later.

This forum is for server discussion, for people who are sick of the s*** favoritism, botting, frauding, and corruption on Servers they've been on. Go Nazi Police your own forums. Your dumb 4-chan one liners don't work here.

[aRO Player]

To anyone who got hurt finding out information they didn't want to know which later lead to them leaving the server.

Ignorance is bliss.

AD frauders are the new botters, and it sucks. But security measures has been taken to "possibly" reduce ad fraud whether or not it works, actions have been taken. Yeah, it sucks that frauded SQI's are still running around, and people who really need to banned for things that are blatantly obvious. But for those who are getting away with it currently will eventually most likely upset your so called "Corrupt GM's" and ban them for everything they have ever done. AD frauding does piss me off greatly, but I'm just happy they are taking the time to reduce fraud but the only best way to reduce it is to remove the system entirely but that will only bring up waves of complaints saying that the donation prices are too high. It pisses me off that I have been working so hard to get one SQI of my own legit, but ad frauders bring in 150mil a day in zeny through ad fraud.

Knowing all this information on what may or may not be true, does not hinder my gameplay experience at aRO, if anything I wish Debbie/Phil/Whoever would be more harsh on people who uses the botting program he helps develop on his own server, there is even a thread on the OpenKore forum for aRO with people who want information on how to bot aRO. I would imagine for someone who works in that particular field would put in the proper stops to prevent people from using his own program on his own server. Even after all this conspiracy, courruption, and everything else people can say, they must be doing something right because I'm still playing here, and I have no plans on leaving.

[johnlikewha]

then as i stated stop posting yourself if you dont have proof

i see it as just a bunch of jumble that doesnt aim at the server

[Senor]

I'll explain in simpler terms. Since you won't believe anything except from GMs. Oh wait, you don't believe anything from exGMs either. I guess all your info comes from GMs who are paid by Debbie. Here's a simple breakdown that doesn't involve testimony

SITE A HOSTS SITE B.
No one can change that, except the websites and the parent company that hosts it. From there, you can see who registered the site

MONEY GOES FROM POINT A TO POINT B
Paypal donations to server went to an account under PHILIP MAK

GM'S OWN WORDS
Under the GM's post and mission , "Debbie has linked to a popular botting program". Now bring up google. Check openkore website forum. Forum helper "pmak" helped users of his program connect to animaro and set up the bot program.

THEY POSTED THE PIC THEMSELVES
Deb posted a pic under his own forum name on his own forums. All you have to do is look at Picture A on that original post. Now Look at picture B, of the before/after pic here. Same person

BOTTING
What can you do, they control every in-game single log. You're trying to prove guilt of people who control all the evidence and can manipulate it at will. Even when a ex-GM collected posted logs in IRC, none of you will believe him. You won't believe the DOZENS of vets that had to fight these armies even after C99 under Panda, and seen Bot indicators such as PATHING ERRORS, MASS TEAM DISCONNECT WHEN LEADER DIES, SYNCHRONIZED WALKING. Until once again, you are forced to use GM's OWN POSTS AND COMMON SENSE
Under their own posts: They took like 4 months to "catch" Osaka's bot army. Amazingly long for people that develop bot programs to catch someone using their own programs.

FAVORITISM
Once again, you pick out their own ban threads
Take a read at ANY PvP complaint at all on their own forums. Reach the judgement for any harassing words
It will be "PvP is not to be taken seriously". At worse, it is a few hours of mute

Let's now pick up another thread, based on their OWN GM DECISION.
Let's look at harassing words when you do it on Eclipse's wife, who is a player and not an admin. Was it "Don't take it seriously" or a mute. Nope, it was a double permanent ban

[Xennith]

then as i stated stop posting yourself if you dont have proof

i see it as just a bunch of jumble that doesnt aim at the server

"tl;dr, I don't believe you, you don't believe me, nobody has solid presentable evidence either way, but I choose to believe this."

That's really what this seems to have turned in to, in all honesty. It's ceased to be about who's right or wrong...  think Paladin said it best. All it is now is whether or not people choose to care about it.
The problem is that it's a lot easier to ignore something than it is to like it... you people attacking AnimaRO know that.
A single bad review would have to be countered by ten. When there's another option open to players, they'll pass up AnimaRO and jump straight to any other given, absolutely random, server simply because the first review was straight-up lame.

What really gets me about this is that it seems as if you have NOTHING good to say about AnimaRO. Look at the reviews... seriously... Tens? Not even AnimaRO is that bad. Heck, even you, Colonel, gave it a 24... but tens? That's clearly the sort of thing that's been instigated by this whole situation.

In all honesty, I understand the gripes. I realize the GMs bot. I realize they botted before they were GMs. I even realize that they probably still bot. But what does that change about AnimaRO? It's not as if the GMs bot their GM hacked characters in WoE. The GMs don't use hacked gears when combating the players. They use legits (And in all honesty, if you can submit to me visible proof of illegit GM SUMMONED gear or hacked stats, I'll work towards getting that GM banned, and if I'm banned in the process, hell, I'll 100% convert to your side), not this database hacked stuff.

I do realize the aRO GMs have shady pasts... didn't I say that? I don't deny that they've probably done "Bad things", but Jesus, they're doing something right, because over 5000 satisfied players (Low-ball number) say that they are.

I'm angry because it's been dragged back to me to deal with, and I'm angry that this thread is done with malicious intent.
If it was just a case of "Hey, I don't like this server too much, there's a lot of things wrong with it", it wouldn't be so bad... even if you jump into the "GMs are somewhat corrupt" aspect of it, it's not so bad... but you guys take it to the level of trying to infiltrate their personal lives.
What this Phil guy does behind closed doors with his mother and a wig means nothing to me for aRO... what it DOES mean to me, is that you're trying to invade on someone's private life to try and slander their business one.
Does not compute.

I see the gripe, I really do, but I definitely don't think you're justified in taking it this far.


As a side note, "Dear Serenity"... all this talk you seem to have about AnimaRO being so corrupt seems a tad bit hypocritical coming from EuphRO staff.
Didn't the GMs have to shut down that server, at one point, because the head GM misused some donation funds?
In fact, I'm sure if I looked, I could dig up quite a bit of dirt on Euph... but you know what? UNLIKE YOU, I don't CARE about trashing another server that I might dislike, or think is corrupt.

I would only hope that you would be willing to extend the same courtesy to others, lest something bad happen. I mean, how would you react if a group of malcontents came along with malicious intentions towards EuphRO?

That would suck, amirite?
Well guess what you're doing to us.

Go back to your own server. That's where you want you, and that's where we want you. This isn't a fight you belong in.

Heck, I don't think this is a fight anyone belongs in... but I suppose some people can't just sit back and not attack others' integrity.

[Orguss]

GM's don't bot GM characters? You're right, because then people would b**** because GM's are woeing on a GM char.... But GM 'legit' alts weren't botted? SharpShooter was never botted? Sounds fishy.

GM's dont use illegitimate gears? Harken should NOT have +10 Sleipnirs on Stratocaster. Why? Because he didn't earn them at all. +3 rewards taken from botting. He openly admits he botted Himeko. Okay, fine, he has a shady past... He did that before he was GM. HE DID NOT TAKE THE AWARDS TILL AFTER HE WAS A GM. That means even after he made GM, he still had no shame in taking something from the server he didn't earn. The +3 should have gone to someone who worked hard getting it. Not Justice, Debbie, and Harken snatching them up so a) no one could contest that the +10 kahos weren't legit, and B) no one else besides them would have them. To be honest, I fully expected the GM's to make dummie chars and say they got the first 99 on the new classes too. Debbie needs a new 'legit' (And I use that term losely when talking about GM alts) +10 Suiken.

Also, to EASILY refute your claim. Black Talon. Not only does he constantly spawn +10 everything + SQI, he does it on non-gm characters, he also flexes said gear in pvp ALL the time, and last but not least, has let people BORROW +10 valk shield. This is why rumors float all around about favoritism. Because you let one person use it once, they show one other person, then it's like HOW DID HE MAKE THAT? They already know +3's have been taken...

And Gene, once again, you show just how 'animaRO administrators' act. Immature. He never once mentioned another server. He mentioned this one. It's so easy to turn the light into someone else's face then admit you're wrong, isn't it? But the EuphRO crap is just lamers rumormongering like here, amiright? However, I'll admit making fun of 'Debbie' being a cross dresser 'crosses' the line. If s/he ran a good server I wouldn't care.