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Title: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: nana321 on Nov 24, 2014, 05:47 PM
RATE MY SERVER DELETE THIS POST PLEASE OR THE GM OF ZEAL RO SAID HE WILL BAN MY ACC IN GAME !!
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: Jolina on Nov 24, 2014, 06:37 PM
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DONATE STUFF: i was about to post this thing without any donate info, but actualy, those who has this V.I.P. thing that is worth 4m, can use warper with dungeons and have many other privilegues that others dont have. and oh, 4m VIP lasts 24h . Oh yea, that means u need to spend 4m every 24h to warp in all dungeons and have all the priviluegues of VIP . there's also 2 weeks vip and lifetime vip, but they are super OP. So those who donate in the game, will have a easier time to get pro and so on ...

i do not like the System. But Players know it before they Join.

For the end, VALKYRIE MVP KILLING WITH A GEARLESS STALKER: they will let  a big guild with active players to keep on killing one of the strongest MVPs with reject sword (perhaps check on youtube how is done if you dont know..it takes 10-15min max), ON ALL THE SERVERS I'VE BEEN, THEY DISABLED THIS SKILL VS MVPS, but here is ok for 95% of the server population to be poor and for the 5% to easily farm valkyie mvp gears, with the super active guild in the game. there's alrdy +9 V armos, +9 D boots ... its getting unballanced alrdy, and the prob is only 5-10% of population is getting strong, the rest is just there farming at 1/5 of the real price.
You Got a Screenshot about the +9 Equip?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: Zeal on Nov 24, 2014, 07:08 PM
Hello thank you for your time to write a review for ZealRO however you are totally wrong.

First of all your title

QuoteUNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY

We in no way reward players for writing reviews, this is against RateMyServers policy's and would not want to risk the server getting removed.

QuoteIn game, there's a npc in pront that every 5 mins it keep on telling to go vote and to write a review on RMS, you get points with that ofc with wich u can buy stuff in game. GM zeal is active and is answering to requests only when he needs to shout out AGAIN to go write a RMS review so more players join. Yes that means he sometimes ignore my pms and requests even if he is online and not AFK in game.

We have a walking talking NPC in prontera that says random things such as dont trade in main chat, use trade chat, some other server rules and yes one of the random messages it says is "Please remember to write a review on RMS" there is nothing wrong with this, just a gentle reminder.

I am online 24/7 however i do sleep. I keep the client open so sometimes i may not respond because simply i am not there to respond. Try use @request, we have GM's that can answer anything you need providing they are online at that time.

I never SHOUT to go write a review? i simply thank the players who have wrote a review. As a very active Admin i like to keep on top of things. Saying thank you for something isn't a crime, and one of our qualities is that the staff are very interactive with the community.

QuoteServer facts: they say its our fault, but all players except GM lags .. coincidance ? i dont think so. There are often this lag spikes, screen froozen for few sec then u return playing, and you're dead. This lag is affected no matter where u live, cause every1 complains the same, and GM keeps telling its we that lag .. i mean come on, i lag only on this servers, on others its all good .

The server has grown huge since the launch and today if you notice the server is offline while we move to a better machine to handle the load of players coming in. Once this maintenance is complete, your gameplay should be that lot more smoother.

QuoteYou think thats it ? Lemme tell you about game ECONOMY : almost every item price is worth 1/5 of its original price (items from mavka, incubus,venatus..). you heard right yea. Gears and armors and cards are being sold for an OP price in vending area, ray card 4-5m , thara 4m .... but no matter where u farm u get only 1/5 of the money u would usualy get. So it hard to get normal gears, with cards .. takes time, long time.

Okay if you read our server features (which you should do before you join any server) it simply tells you that one of our features is that we reduced the price of some high selling items to NPC's so keep the balance in the economy. With 30x drop rates floating to 50x drop rates Zeny would be way to easy to obtain. The prices of such items are balanced for 1x drop rates so we changed a few things to keep that balance.

Now if you talking about how much players sell things for, that's not down to the staff, the players make the economy and make the prices, remember we are a 24 day old server so the economy is still working its self out.

QuoteDONATE STUFF: i was about to post this thing without any donate info, but actualy, those who has this V.I.P. thing that is worth 4m, can use warper with dungeons and have many other privilegues that others dont have. and oh, 4m VIP lasts 24h . Oh yea, that means u need to spend 4m every 24h to warp in all dungeons and have all the priviluegues of VIP . there's also 2 weeks vip and lifetime vip, but they are super OP. So those who donate in the game, will have a easier time to get pro and so on ...

We have VIP system just like most servers, we have a Warpra that lets you warp to all level 1 dungeons and fields, however if you have a VIP pass as an added extra you get to select the levels instead of walking however this does not include MvP maps.

Again, 4 mil for 24 hours is not down to the staff, the players make the zeny price while the economy is being created on such a new born server.

You can however vote for VIP passes and anything else that you can donate for. You can obtain a full months VIP pass for maybe 1.5 weeks voting? so its very easy to do if you look and see whats available to you.

Our donation system is very balanced with no custom items, its all official stuff and even then we don't include OP equipment.

QuoteFor the end, VALKYRIE MVP KILLING WITH A GEARLESS STALKER: they will let  a big guild with active players to keep on killing one of the strongest MVPs with reject sword (perhaps check on youtube how is done if you dont know..it takes 10-15min max), ON ALL THE SERVERS I'VE BEEN, THEY DISABLED THIS SKILL VS MVPS, but here is ok for 95% of the server population to be poor and for the 5% to easily farm valkyie mvp gears, with the super active guild in the game. there's alrdy +9 V armos, +9 D boots ... its getting unballanced alrdy, and the prob is only 5-10% of population is getting strong, the rest is just there farming at 1/5 of the real price.

After searching the database there is 1 Valk + 9 and that's all, now if you actually read whats announces every 60 minutes, we have disabled the skill of reject sword until our poll is over.

This does not mean we are totally removing the skill, the poll simply states "Should we disable reject sword skill on MvP monster" once the poll is finished the skill will be re-activated. So please check your information before jumping to conclusions.

Quotepeople are being "forced" to vote, so they can get their small rewards out of it

Does this mean that every server that rewards points for voting is forcing players to vote? if this the case, 99% of Ragnarok servers are doing this, its choice, you don't need to if you really don't want too.

If you don't want Vote 4 Points your best playing the official server, i cannot think of any server that does not offer this service.


........

Thank you for your review and i hope you find a server that best suits your needs.

Regards,

Zeal
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: exii on Nov 24, 2014, 10:39 PM
Quote from: Zeal on Nov 24, 2014, 07:08 PM
Okay if you read our server features (which you should do before you join any server) it simply tells you that one of our features is that we reduced the price of some high selling items to NPC's so keep the balance in the economy. With 30x drop rates floating to 50x drop rates Zeny would be way to easy to obtain. The prices of such items are balanced for 1x drop rates so we changed a few things to keep that balance.
1000s of servers had the same problem: the admin forgot to reduce the price of several items. In the latest case of playro (aka pre-trivalro)  it was +5dex food which ppl just botted like stupid. More sad fact: the police GM which banned a lot of ppl for that was one of its biggest abusers. f*** double morale..
Zeny sinks caused by lowering the selling prices of some items dont help. It just leads to the point where casual players dont have a chance anymore to compete missing guild members or skill to zeny. Only the good ones figure out how to generate tons of zeny without any disadvantage by those nerfs.

In combination with a VIP ticket which only lasts 24h hrs for this price only the rich are able to make profit on this server. The rich ones can kill beelze then which gives them a very huge benefit through exclusive mvp gear.

So pointing on this is absolutely legit and important.

QuoteFor the end, VALKYRIE MVP KILLING WITH A GEARLESS STALKER: they will let  a big guild with active players to keep on killing one of the strongest MVPs with reject sword (perhaps check on youtube how is done if you dont know..it takes 10-15min max), ON ALL THE SERVERS I'VE BEEN, THEY DISABLED THIS SKILL VS MVPS, but here is ok for 95% of the server population to be poor and for the 5% to easily farm valkyie mvp gears, with the super active guild in the game. there's alrdy +9 V armos, +9 D boots ... its getting unballanced alrdy, and the prob is only 5-10% of population is getting strong, the rest is just there farming at 1/5 of the real price.
LOL
Who the heck cares about +9 gear? +9 gear for what? For more def in woe?
The only valid point here is the fact that some ppl were able to found a monopole to earn very easy a lot of zeny/cash items.

But at this point I have to say that I prefer an svn which still including reject sword kills as morons who just dl the latest edition of the rathena client and wonder why rcx is not working then (not working since rathena 2011 client). Would be the overkill at a woe/bg experience focused server.

But what makes me most sad is actually the fact that the password recovery function isnt available. In combination with the fact that you arent able to contact the admin on his own server to report it is absurd. I contacted him and reported it on his accound on rms. I really hope its getting fixed soon and I really hope hes adding the common standart ranking informations. I never would join a server where Im not able to see what guilds are there+zeny rankings.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: Zeal on Nov 24, 2014, 11:27 PM
QuoteBut what makes me most sad is actually the fact that the password recovery function isnt available. In combination with the fact that you arent able to contact the admin on his own server to report it is absurd. I contacted him and reported it on his accound on rms. I really hope its getting fixed soon and I really hope hes adding the common standart ranking informations. I never would join a server where Im not able to see what guilds are there+zeny rankings.

I replied to you here on RMS regarding the reset password, we just undergone a server maintenance to transfer the server to a different machine.

The reset password will be available later today.

Also as for ranking, they are currently available on the control panel like i also said in your reply. We are having a leader board created for the main site.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: exii on Nov 24, 2014, 11:40 PM
If the fix comes that fast its nice to see.
But unfortunely I have no access to the cp. It also is very annoying to register just to see a ranking.
And last but not least: I cant find the cp. The only thing I can find is the leaderboard which is under construction. http://puu.sh/d4zQo/1b75b4e0e3.png (http://puu.sh/d4zQo/1b75b4e0e3.png)
Not sure why you make this so damn complicated.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: Zeal on Nov 24, 2014, 11:46 PM
To access the CP you do need to login, ill have the recover password working for you a.s.a.p, just need to finish up some stuff with the server move and ill get right onto it.

As for the Leader Boards, this will follow after the recover password.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: exii on Nov 25, 2014, 12:07 AM
That sounds very satisfying. Hopefully the ping is better as before. 190ms is out of every tolerance.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Nov 26, 2014, 06:02 AM
I remember Zeal left a public message on our Facebook page accusing us of stealing their website icons. Seems like such a lame and fishy thing to do considering our website was around way before theirs lol. Ever since then I've just been waiting for the server to die.

You can find an image of our splash page here if you wanna see it.
http://gantzservices.com/ (http://gantzservices.com/)
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 26, 2014, 09:11 AM
Okay time to bring out lawyer mode!

and just incase you decide to edit your post after reading this, here is your words.

(http://i.imgur.com/68l8eOu.png)

First of all, did you just say public? do you mean private? why is there so many dishonest people in the world? anyways...

I sent you a personal message on Facebook as its the only way i could contact you. Here is a screenshot of the private NOT pubic message that was sent.

(http://i.imgur.com/rxyrqWn.png)

As you can see you said it was created on 7/7/2014.

Our domain name was registered on the 22/4/2014 so over 3 months before your splash page was created. Just because our server launched on 1/11/2014 does not mean our website wasn't online and functioning.

(http://i.imgur.com/IqNUyIk.png)

Here is a screenshot of how our website looked while the server was being developed.

(http://i.imgur.com/BUg08qG.png)

The website was like this for 3 months, now lets look into the design files from my PSD file i got from our designer.

(http://i.imgur.com/Owh2oN8.png)

As you can see, there are the layers involved to create our buttons, different shades and effects to make the buttons look how they do.

So yes im afraid your designer stole our buttons and placed them on your splash page.

Now lets look at your buttons.

(http://i.imgur.com/5jTmRaq.png)

Notice anything? lets look even closer.

(http://i.imgur.com/9IkKubu.png)

You web designer did a very poor job at cutting out/rendering the glow on the buttons as you can see there is gaps all round the edges.

Looking forward to seeing your reply.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Nov 26, 2014, 09:33 AM
idc
At least Woon has a working website instead this forum combination junk without basic informations and bugged features just because noone tested them. And no; there is no excuse not have it when the server launches.
Thats what I see here. And when I read your critical reviews (I personally never care about everything above 70) then I think you really have some other problems as to start a war against other admins regarding 2 dumb buttons which direct you to social media bla bla. Man you really should set new priotities. How about to work on a solution for a better economy flow or how about to bring woe:se in? Else Im not interessted to join this server.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 26, 2014, 09:36 AM
Quotethen I think you really have some other problems as to start a war against other admins regarding 2 dumb buttons which direct you to social media bla bla. Man you really should set new priotities.

I didn't make the post, they did, I'm just defending the server from false accusations considering the comment was..

QuoteSeems like such a lame and fishy thing to do considering our website was around way before theirs lol

You would do the same.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Nov 26, 2014, 12:16 PM
I swear there was a public message there somewhere, maybe I was mistaken. Either way I just thought it was funny you would accuse us of that after our web page was out and released well before yours, so technically I could make the same claim. Props to you for doing some good research though, I honestly didn't expect that.

Edit: Upon closer inspection of your evidence and actually reading your full post, you seem to have a pretty serious point. I feel I should contact the guy who made the website and find out if this is true. If it is I'm gonna go slap him hard as f*** for doing that.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 26, 2014, 12:39 PM
I appreciate that, thank you.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Nov 26, 2014, 12:59 PM
... and so I saved the world and made it to a boring place of united peace. Amen.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Doomed on Nov 30, 2014, 03:49 AM
I saw them accusing woon too!!
And out of all the servers out there. Why would woon copy their design from a lame donkey server like Zeal?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 06:36 AM
QuoteWhy would woon copy their design

Look at my evidence their designer copied it, end of story, end of conversation.

Can we lock this thread up now please?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Nov 30, 2014, 08:11 AM
I asked the web developer and he simply said "No, I didn't." So I guess you can take that for what it's worth.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 08:24 AM
QuoteI asked the web developer and he simply said "No, I didn't." So I guess you can take that for what it's worth.

He would say that since you paid him. Look at the evidence, it simply proves everything. Specially the poor rendering of the images.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Mind on Nov 30, 2014, 08:28 AM
What is Zeal-Ro anyway?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Doomed on Nov 30, 2014, 08:29 AM
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2agkm55.png)

I bought out my lawyer mode and found this. You lying scumbag.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 08:30 AM
Yes, where did you find that? on WoonRO or on the designers facebook?

https://www.facebook.com/aeroblax (https://www.facebook.com/aeroblax)

Case closed :P
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Doomed on Nov 30, 2014, 08:33 AM
Quote from: Zeal on Nov 26, 2014, 09:11 AM
First of all, did you just say public? do you mean private? why is there so many dishonest people in the world? anyways...

Weather you post it on woon's FB page or some designer's FB page . Public is Public. The only dishonest person is you.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 08:35 AM
If you say so, i have rights to protect what belongs to me, and me messaging the designer has nothing to do with Woon so please post something relevant if you have anything to say at all.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Doomed on Nov 30, 2014, 08:49 AM
Totally agree. You paid for it , You've got all the rights to ask if it was copied or not. But you denied the fact that you made a public post regarding it and i just proved you wrong.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 08:54 AM
QuoteBut you denied the fact that you made a public post regarding it and i just proved you wrong.

I did not make a public post on WoonRO, i would never do this, i have to much respect for the server and its admin to do something lame and stupid like this.

I post on the designers Facebook which has nothing todo with WoonRO.

I have every right todo this as they stole my graphics and sold them to other server owners without them knowing.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: mpl123 on Nov 30, 2014, 10:54 AM
@Doomed

Please, don't make the issue big. I think the case is over.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Woon on Nov 30, 2014, 08:46 PM
Official WoonRO admin reply.
I don't care.
I don't own RO, nor do I own any of the graphics I paid for on our splash page.
I don't think I or any server admin has the right to complain about anything stolen. I mean think about what we are doing...

If you want to take our stuff, by all means we are honored. If a web designer we hired happened to use a button from your site, then damn you got some sweet buttons. He liked em so much he threw them somewhere else.

Anyway nice job derailing a topic beyond rescue. Here's my attempt to save a sinking ship.
Game play : 6/10
Economy: 1/10
Gm activity: 10/10
Friendly people: 9/10
Donate: 3/10 (ballance)
Nice job on the detailed review. It will help players understand your point of view very clearly.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 10:13 PM
So basically what your saying is its okay for web designers to steal other designs and sell it?

And regards to the review, i replied to that already, this got way off topic due to someone else not me posting about it, im just defending ZealRO from false accusations as im sure you would also do the same. If you read everything from start to finish you will see.

Im done with this topic anyways, said my piece and its getting way off topic, be good if a staff member can lock this up.

Thanks.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 01, 2014, 12:09 AM
Guys.




It's AvidRO.

Abandon ship.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Dec 01, 2014, 03:25 PM
Any proof for that? I joined avid, looked ingame for features and de-installed this s***. Would make this server very unattractive for me.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Woon on Dec 01, 2014, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 10:13 PM
So basically what your saying is its okay for web designers to steal other designs and sell it?

And regards to the review, i replied to that already, this got way off topic due to someone else not me posting about it, im just defending ZealRO from false accusations as im sure you would also do the same. If you read everything from start to finish you will see.

Im done with this topic anyways, said my piece and its getting way off topic, be good if a staff member can lock this up.

Thanks.

If I feel like it I could copy your logo and everything else from your website. Or I could pay a web designer to do it. And you should not even care.

My point isn't that it's okay, it's just that none of us have the luxury of complaining about someone stealing our stuff. And if you want that luxury then go ahead and send Gravity 30% of your revenue.

Normally I do not get involved in RMS stuff but this time you are wrong and I want to have the last word, so yeah...
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Dec 01, 2014, 06:16 PM
I totally agree with you, I'm not saying that, i think we are confusing our selves now.

This topic was a review for ZealRO, i replied to the review with my answers then someone decided to post saying i stole WoonRO graphics and posted a public message on WoonRO Facebook page.

So i replied with my defense with the actual facts (I'm sure as an admin, you would do the same to defend yourself?) and now this discussion has gone way off topic.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 01, 2014, 07:05 PM
Quote from: exii on Dec 01, 2014, 03:25 PM
Any proof for that? I joined avid, looked ingame for features and de-installed this s***. Would make this server very unattractive for me.

I dunno if I could get solid evidence together in the form of, say, screenshots... but as AvidRO's former HeadGM (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/a-message-from-avidro%27s-head-gm/) it's not hard to tell that it's the same person running the show.

But, uh, not sure this is the right place to discuss it. So, if not, sorry to mods and delete if it's inappropriate, thanks.

Sup, Avid.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zeal on Dec 01, 2014, 07:20 PM
Sorry Zhin, you are wrong, i am not Avid.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 01, 2014, 07:25 PM
How can you remain so calm while your pants are going up in flames?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 07:39 PM
Quote from: Woon on Nov 30, 2014, 08:46 PM
Official WoonRO admin reply.
I don't care.

Anyway nice job derailing a topic beyond rescue. Here's my attempt to save a sinking ship.
Game play : 6/10
Economy: 1/10
Gm activity: 10/10
Friendly people: 9/10
Donate: 3/10 (ballance)
Nice job on the detailed review. It will help players understand your point of view very clearly.

LOL if were gonna do GM reviews,Economy finger f***, and OP Donations???,WOON RO IS f*** s***.
I can wrtie a f*** essay on your sheit server. The free linker spirit, AND all of the priest support skills incuding impot manus,magnificient,angelus, and etc which you can get along with full hp and sp regen from a healer is suppose to be a Zeny sink of what?? 120mil for link which i can make in less then a day at geffenia bombing mobs there with the acid bomb potions from your battlegrounds which is dead  70% of the day and full of noob champs that can only click asura and sinxs that can only click sb. Oh yeah your pvp is absolute s*** too. kvm gears are the most op thing introduced to ro and the amount of mvp cards and +9kvm gears on the server is ludicrous. the idea that your posting a review of another server is a bad idea. There are so much negatives about your server that my brain is pulsating with excitment, the shear idea of ripping your server a new a****** is overwhelming for me at the moment, even better then getting a boner almost.oh yeah back to the zeny sink, if you did your math correctly you would know that the amount of a zeny whole avaible from creating a buff slave and linker and a creator slave is so huge, it could increase the longivity of any server by 2-3 months. Lets list the zeny whole that your so called guild buff npc has avaible
Assump level 5- 120mil
Magnificent-100mil
angelus-100mil
gloria-100mil
impot manus-100mil
fcp-150mil, yeah thats right fcp!!

Thats a total of....670mil zeny. MMMM great zeny whole for all these buffs which take out the need for, creators,priests, and linkers,
hey why dont you just add f*** berserk potion pitches and blacksmith buffs while your at it.
Anyway 670mil zeny compared to the possible creation and gearing of 3 ro characters. wow.
Gearing a priest and a creator, wow. these are 2 very important chars in ro, which both need considerable amount of zeny in terms of gearing.
That right there is a much bigger zeny whole then your buff npc.

and you want to talk about economy???/
ECONOMY??? i can buy a f*** valk shield for 3mil, ice pick for 10mil a valk armor for 5mil. That is so f*** up i got no words for it. f*** up isnt even close to describing the absolute s*** of a economy this is. You know i can go on about your server all day long and i only touched the tip of the iceburge.
Your policy on 3rd party programs which you seem to fiddle with, i remeber reading your topic when you said no romedic which ended up in the ban of at least one guild, and then now you can download romedic off your homepage is absolutly hilarouse. oh wait you changed it and used somebody else's homepage ideas.iSNT THAT JUST GREAT? bravo, no wait its just straight up funny.


And you want to talk about a sunken ship. get the f*** out with your s*** comments, try not to copy and paste any other things from people on your way out of this topic please, plagarsim is a serious crime to commit, and hosting a s*** server should be right next to it.

At least Zeal has the balls to try something new and create a more balanced server. Sure theres lag spikes in game but so what? zeal has made it clear that its a work in progress. And yes when i did  pm to Zeal, he replyed to me in a matter of 5 minutes, and yes there was about 3 GM's on today, all at diffrent timezones which most servers cant even do these days, their always on for asain gamers and not for the north american one, and so +1 for zeal, having a gm on at diffrent timezones. And you also forgot to mention the npc in prontera shouts out some of the more important in game rules that players should know about, so stop trying to make it look like a spamming bot saying 'vote for server please!".
And also, on regards to MvP's and big guilds, that is usually the same scenario on most servers, its sad to see but dont think ZealRO has invented  this sad tragedy and what not.

I hope this post doesnt get deleted, its on topic and relatively filled with enough details to support any ideas created
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 01, 2014, 08:52 PM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 07:39 PM
Spoiler

LOL if were gonna do GM reviews,Economy finger f***, and OP Donations???,WOON RO IS f*** s***.
I can wrtie a f*** essay on your sheit server. The free linker spirit, AND all of the priest support skills incuding impot manus,magnificient,angelus, and etc which you can get along with full hp and sp regen from a healer is suppose to be a Zeny sink of what?? 120mil for link which i can make in less then a day at geffenia bombing mobs there with the acid bomb potions from your battlegrounds which is dead  70% of the day and full of noob champs that can only click asura and sinxs that can only click sb. Oh yeah your pvp is absolute s*** too. kvm gears are the most op thing introduced to ro and the amount of mvp cards and +9kvm gears on the server is ludicrous. the idea that your posting a review of another server is a bad idea. There are so much negatives about your server that my brain is pulsating with excitment, the shear idea of ripping your server a new a****** is overwhelming for me at the moment, even better then getting a boner almost.oh yeah back to the zeny sink, if you did your math correctly you would know that the amount of a zeny whole avaible from creating a buff slave and linker and a creator slave is so huge, it could increase the longivity of any server by 2-3 months. Lets list the zeny whole that your so called guild buff npc has avaible
Assump level 5- 120mil
Magnificent-100mil
angelus-100mil
gloria-100mil
impot manus-100mil
fcp-150mil, yeah thats right fcp!!

Thats a total of....670mil zeny. MMMM great zeny whole for all these buffs which take out the need for, creators,priests, and linkers,
hey why dont you just add f*** berserk potion pitches and blacksmith buffs while your at it.
Anyway 670mil zeny compared to the possible creation and gearing of 3 ro characters. wow.
Gearing a priest and a creator, wow. these are 2 very important chars in ro, which both need considerable amount of zeny in terms of gearing.
That right there is a much bigger zeny whole then your buff npc.

and you want to talk about economy???/
ECONOMY??? i can buy a f*** valk shield for 3mil, ice pick for 10mil a valk armor for 5mil. That is so f*** up i got no words for it. f*** up isnt even close to describing the absolute s*** of a economy this is. You know i can go on about your server all day long and i only touched the tip of the iceburge.
Your policy on 3rd party programs which you seem to fiddle with, i remeber reading your topic when you said no romedic which ended up in the ban of at least one guild, and then now you can download romedic off your homepage is absolutly hilarouse. oh wait you changed it and used somebody else's homepage ideas.iSNT THAT JUST GREAT? bravo, no wait its just straight up funny.


And you want to talk about a sunken ship. get the f*** out with your s*** comments, try not to copy and paste any other things from people on your way out of this topic please, plagarsim is a serious crime to commit, and hosting a s*** server should be right next to it.

At least Zeal has the balls to try something new and create a more balanced server. Sure theres lag spikes in game but so what? zeal has made it clear that its a work in progress. And yes when i did  pm to Zeal, he replyed to me in a matter of 5 minutes, and yes there was about 3 GM's on today, all at diffrent timezones which most servers cant even do these days, their always on for asain gamers and not for the north american one, and so +1 for zeal, having a gm on at diffrent timezones. And you also forgot to mention the npc in prontera shouts out some of the more important in game rules that players should know about, so stop trying to make it look like a spamming bot saying 'vote for server please!".
And also, on regards to MvP's and big guilds, that is usually the same scenario on most servers, its sad to see but dont think ZealRO has invented  this sad tragedy and what not.

I hope this post doesnt get deleted, its on topic and relatively filled with enough details to support any ideas created
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>implying Woon has OP donation shop, as though anyone lately even uses it.
>implying that glorious gear are OP
>implying that WoonRO's MVP cards are a problem when GTB/FBH is disabled in competitive areas and the ones waving them around now in PvP are generally bad crutch-swingers
>implying that the guild buff healer invalidates 2 very viable and relevant support classes and a DD class
>implying that staple gears like valk shield, valk armours etc being reasonably obtainable for new players to get into PvP-related content quicker is bad
>implying that people aren't dumb and don't need the server rules repeatedly shoved into their faces

Though you're right about the PvP room being a s*** burst-damage cesspool, BG being dead half the day until peak hours where the pinoy power and the west meet, and the lack of consistency with certain server policies(cough *3pps**custom items*) not being good for image in general, despite whatever good intent was driving the changes.



Oh what's that? Don't mind me I won't derail any further about this whole plagiarism thing. Just swinging by to giggle at a cute review. Back to bed for now then. If anyone feels the need to hurl verbal abuse at me just shoot me a PM, I may actually read it someday(caring not guaranteed but I like to pretend that I take people's feelings to heart).
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Woon on Dec 01, 2014, 09:28 PM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 07:39 PM
LOL if were gonna do GM reviews,Economy finger f***, and OP Donations???,WOON RO IS f*** s***.
I can wrtie a f*** essay on your sheit server. The free linker spirit, AND all of the priest support skills incuding impot manus,magnificient,angelus, and etc which you can get along with full hp and sp regen from a healer is suppose to be a Zeny sink of what?? 120mil for link which i can make in less then a day at geffenia bombing mobs there with the acid bomb potions from your battlegrounds which is dead  70% of the day and full of noob champs that can only click asura and sinxs that can only click sb. Oh yeah your pvp is absolute s*** too. kvm gears are the most op thing introduced to ro and the amount of mvp cards and +9kvm gears on the server is ludicrous. the idea that your posting a review of another server is a bad idea. There are so much negatives about your server that my brain is pulsating with excitment, the shear idea of ripping your server a new a****** is overwhelming for me at the moment, even better then getting a boner almost.oh yeah back to the zeny sink, if you did your math correctly you would know that the amount of a zeny whole avaible from creating a buff slave and linker and a creator slave is so huge, it could increase the longivity of any server by 2-3 months. Lets list the zeny whole that your so called guild buff npc has avaible
Assump level 5- 120mil
Magnificent-100mil
angelus-100mil
gloria-100mil
impot manus-100mil
fcp-150mil, yeah thats right fcp!!

Thats a total of....670mil zeny. MMMM great zeny whole for all these buffs which take out the need for, creators,priests, and linkers,
hey why dont you just add f*** berserk potion pitches and blacksmith buffs while your at it.
Anyway 670mil zeny compared to the possible creation and gearing of 3 ro characters. wow.
Gearing a priest and a creator, wow. these are 2 very important chars in ro, which both need considerable amount of zeny in terms of gearing.
That right there is a much bigger zeny whole then your buff npc.

and you want to talk about economy???/
ECONOMY??? i can buy a f*** valk shield for 3mil, ice pick for 10mil a valk armor for 5mil. That is so f*** up i got no words for it. f*** up isnt even close to describing the absolute s*** of a economy this is. You know i can go on about your server all day long and i only touched the tip of the iceburge.
Your policy on 3rd party programs which you seem to fiddle with, i remeber reading your topic when you said no romedic which ended up in the ban of at least one guild, and then now you can download romedic off your homepage is absolutly hilarouse. oh wait you changed it and used somebody else's homepage ideas.iSNT THAT JUST GREAT? bravo, no wait its just straight up funny.


And you want to talk about a sunken ship. get the f*** out with your s*** comments, try not to copy and paste any other things from people on your way out of this topic please, plagarsim is a serious crime to commit, and hosting a s*** server should be right next to it.

At least Zeal has the balls to try something new and create a more balanced server. Sure theres lag spikes in game but so what? zeal has made it clear that its a work in progress. And yes when i did  pm to Zeal, he replyed to me in a matter of 5 minutes, and yes there was about 3 GM's on today, all at diffrent timezones which most servers cant even do these days, their always on for asain gamers and not for the north american one, and so +1 for zeal, having a gm on at diffrent timezones. And you also forgot to mention the npc in prontera shouts out some of the more important in game rules that players should know about, so stop trying to make it look like a spamming bot saying 'vote for server please!".
And also, on regards to MvP's and big guilds, that is usually the same scenario on most servers, its sad to see but dont think ZealRO has invented  this sad tragedy and what not.

I hope this post doesnt get deleted, its on topic and relatively filled with enough details to support any ideas created

I think you need to make a topic just for us :D
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
Quote from: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 01, 2014, 08:52 PM

Oh what's that? Don't mind me I won't derail any further about this whole plagiarism thing. Just swinging by to giggle at a cute review. Back to bed for now then. If anyone feels the need to hurl verbal abuse at me just shoot me a PM, I may actually read it someday(caring not guaranteed but I like to pretend that I take people's feelings to heart).

Thats not even a review, i could give you a 10/10 review  that even the new york times will put under their 'butthurt" section.
Quote from: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 01, 2014, 08:52 PM
the lack of consistency with certain server policies(cough *3pps**custom items*)
That right there is good enough to put you away. Your sitting on the fence with such important matters with the game, that doesnt attract people and only leaves further vunlarbility to the server,and in any other important factors to the game.Just put it right on your home page " we allow 3rd party programs".... "no delay too if you suck my d***". Your the new DivinityRO.Welcome.

Quote from: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 01, 2014, 08:52 PM
>implying Woon has OP donation shop, as though anyone lately even uses it.
>implying that glorious gear are OP
>implying that WoonRO's MVP cards are a problem when GTB/FBH is disabled in competitive areas and the ones waving them around now in PvP are generally bad crutch-

1-Your donation shop is basically a copy and paste of any other server thats around, donate money, get gears, prevail!.... or just grind to death for the same gears and eventually you will prevail after getting your asskicked for a good bit.That doesnt seem fun to anyone but to people willing to pull money out of their pocket for some more pay2win.Yeah your welcome, your just the same as any other pay2win.Did you forget to mention that in your adversitments? good, you should add that point, its important.
2-Glorious gears are op.Period. Lots and Lots of people skip by servers that have implemented kvm gears, theres a reason.Its OP. Not even france iRO had them enabled, learn from the actuall gravity team and stop enabling OP equipment that shouldnt be availbe ingame. Oh wait im sorry you already did.RIP
3-Yeah your MvP and Mini Boss cards are a problem, you dont see how its a problem atm but you will eventually.
Quote from: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 01, 2014, 08:52 PM
>implying that the guild buff healer invalidates 2 very viable and relevant support classes and a DD class
>implying that staple gears like valk shield, valk armours etc being reasonably obtainable for new players to get into PvP-related content quicker is bad
>implying that people aren't dumb and don't need the server rules repeatedly shoved into their face


1-lol do i need to explain this again? Not even gonna try since your so ignorant
2-Staple? Half or a Quarter of RO is about getting to that PvP level and if the best shield available in ro is Staple then you got issues .
3-LOL im not gonna justify the reasons of why such a npc is put in game.Clearly the guy who posted this topic is looking for meaningless negativity. Maybe you should mention your automated GM shouts to the server every often or so during the day about Write a review on rms,vote,suck my d*** and donate? Yeah so dont go bashing on other peoples

Anyway this is RMS, if you think a little "cute review" goes unnoticed then your joking yourself. People read such posts, and good job protraying yourself like  a man behind the wheel and in charge, after all we dont want you jinxing yourself on important matters now do  we? *cough.

Oh and have fun hosting guilds that like to exploit 3rdpp like meth4u and nodelay. Its quite the new program around the block.Im sure it will create some fun woes.


Also  i dont care if you dont take my feelings to heart, but you should care about those reviews put out there, because after all you do want to look like a loving and caring GM dont you?.... dont you?... *cough /ok
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:07 AM
Anyway i think WoonRO should be kicked out of ratemyserver listing completely.
At the end of the day, you copied somebody elses work and framed it as your own. The guy you hired, doesn't own the website. Its you, and its your job to know where it is that your getting the art work and etc for your main page. Saying "i didn't know" or "he said he didn't do it" is far too easy to escape the subject.
At the end, its your website and its your responsibility to know everything about it, and there really shouldn't be any room for such behavior.
In high school a kid got kicked out his class, suspended and was forced to graduate the next year for copying a few lines for his essay, and here you are copying layouts from other people, and calling it your own and encouraging people to join your server with work that even isn't yours. And you haven't even removed the work from your main page yet just for common curtsy,that's the least you can do, and the fact that you haven't changed it yet  just shows that you don't give a damn.

The decision is pretty clear here, its not mine to make, but sure is clear as day.

*To add,this isnt any sort of personal hatred from me, this is just simply looking at what you have been giving and what needs to be done. Its pretty clear. There isnt 2 ways about it and there shouldn't be. Red Card, get the f*** off the pitch mate /x

or should i say orange card Captain! LOL

Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 12:19 AM
Omg it's only 2 buttons,not a layout x.x I could probably make better looking ones myself. Gosh I didn't think people would get so serious lol.

And yeah to be completely honest, we don't really give a damn about it.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 02, 2014, 12:21 AM
Someone they hired copypasta'd a few pixels and they neglected to go through every single website on the internet to make sure those buttons weren't used somewhere else first.

Better get the firing squad guys.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:28 AM
Its not even about going through every website, he clearly copy n pasted.
Why is this even a conversation?
When a team under performs and delivers wrong the head coach takes the blame.
Over here we got a admin who hired someone else, and they copy and pasted information for the main site. Wheres the responsibility here? If your not gonna remove what you stole from someone else or apology then really you shouldn't be on ratemyserver.
Your in the wrong and you know it.

Its the act of plagarism, and the atittude that it brings. We all know what the mentality of someone who steals the work of other people, " if i can do it once, i can do it again cant i?". And it just shows the lack of commitment from the GM Staff there to review the work related to their own server. Yeah so what, you hired somebody, but guess what? its your server. Your responsible for whats put out on your server, not  the guy you hired.

yC needs to flex the powers here, this isn't elementary anymore. When you do something wrong, there is gonna be consequences. Were talking about plagiarism here, not some joke subject about the flaws of ro anymore. Plagiarism.It doesnt matter if its a few pixels or a whole page,its plagiarism. ill be damned if there's no consequences here for WoonRO.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 12:57 AM
If we should be punished for two buttons then we should be punished for basically stealing a whole game, the irony in this situation is so relevant.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:59 AM
There no irony here. Ratemyserver is a listing for private servers, and it definitely shouldn't list servers that perform plagiarism. I Dont know what your talking about.
People make private servers to create a better feal for the game, but clearly you wouldnt know anything about creating would you?
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Tidal on Dec 02, 2014, 01:11 AM
Better change the topic title now. I think there's more discussion about Woon than of Zeal's in this thread. Lol.

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:28 AM
yC needs to flex the powers here, this isn't elementary anymore. When you do something wrong, there is gonna be consequences. Were talking about plagiarism here, not some joke subject about the flaws of ro anymore. Plagiarism.It doesnt matter if its a few pixels or a whole page,its plagiarism. ill be damned if there's no consequences here for WoonRO.

So serious.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 02, 2014, 01:13 AM
Aero obviously thought that more jpeg would create a better [feal] for those buttons, and WoonRO benefited from that by having really bad buttons.

Honestly I don't know why anyone would pay for buttons that look like that, that's on the Woonies. If anything they should be banned for being really bad at recognizing when they're being ripped off.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 01:23 AM
Past behavior is the best indication for future behavior  /ok
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 02, 2014, 01:29 AM
That doesn't even apply to anything anyone said, Case.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Woon on Dec 02, 2014, 02:19 AM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:59 AM
There no irony here. Ratemyserver is a listing for private servers, and it definitely shouldn't list servers that perform plagiarism. I Dont know what your talking about.
People make private servers to create a better feal for the game, but clearly you wouldnt know anything about creating would you?

Your entire statement is contradictory. Private servers for RO are out right illegal. See the RMS banner up top that has RO images, plagiarism. Perhaps you remember the whole fiasco with EuRO and coming after private server.

As for us taking other server's stuff, seeing as how we are one of the oldest out there, lot of those things originate with us, though there are scripts on hercules and rathena we take and convert back to eathena. We also pay devs to convert theirs scripts to our server, since it saves us the time of writing them from scratch. Though most of the stuff we have implemented over the years has been written from scratch. And for the grf, ours isn't encrypted so people freely take stuff from there and it's all good. Lastly I haven't logged on another server for years so it's kind of hard for me to steal other's stuff when I don't even know what's out there. At least until a bunch of people start crying, "hey how come we don't have this?"

As for the gameplay of Woon, that is opinionated. Lot of people will agree with you 100%, and the growing population that plays there will not. Every server is not for everyone since people enjoy different things. You have very strongly expressed why you don't like it, and I cannot argue opinion, especially over the internet since you will just push back harder.

Oh and Amistr isn't a GM, hes not even a helper :D
Though he does need to get back to me with some slinger information.  /no1

Guess it's too late to save this thread, Triper will have a blast once he reads the entire topic. Sorry for totally derailing at this point. Hoping to provide some entertainment for the lurkers at least.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 02, 2014, 02:32 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e3pePogR_L8/Ujz6NOsLkdI/AAAAAAAABGA/iYGfOCzaBiU/s1600/are+you.png)

I gotta stop stalking this thread but it's just so good.

Meanwhile, I found stuff that I wrote for Avid on the Zeal forums hurr hurr hurr.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 04:30 AM
Just think, in the time all the woon RO GM's took to defend their right to 2 buttons, they could have just made new ones, apologized and moved on, leaving them with a better reputation from it. Instead it has arisen to this incident that is constantly being shown to all the people on the RMS forums.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Dec 02, 2014, 04:32 AM
I just want to come back to this post:
Spoiler
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 07:39 PM
LOL if were gonna do GM reviews,Economy finger f***, and OP Donations???,WOON RO IS f*** s***.
I can wrtie a f*** essay on your sheit server. The free linker spirit, AND all of the priest support skills incuding impot manus,magnificient,angelus, and etc which you can get along with full hp and sp regen from a healer is suppose to be a Zeny sink of what?? 120mil for link which i can make in less then a day at geffenia bombing mobs there with the acid bomb potions from your battlegrounds which is dead  70% of the day and full of noob champs that can only click asura and sinxs that can only click sb. Oh yeah your pvp is absolute s*** too. kvm gears are the most op thing introduced to ro and the amount of mvp cards and +9kvm gears on the server is ludicrous. the idea that your posting a review of another server is a bad idea. There are so much negatives about your server that my brain is pulsating with excitment, the shear idea of ripping your server a new a****** is overwhelming for me at the moment, even better then getting a boner almost.oh yeah back to the zeny sink, if you did your math correctly you would know that the amount of a zeny whole avaible from creating a buff slave and linker and a creator slave is so huge, it could increase the longivity of any server by 2-3 months. Lets list the zeny whole that your so called guild buff npc has avaible
Assump level 5- 120mil
Magnificent-100mil
angelus-100mil
gloria-100mil
impot manus-100mil
fcp-150mil, yeah thats right fcp!!

Thats a total of....670mil zeny. MMMM great zeny whole for all these buffs which take out the need for, creators,priests, and linkers,
hey why dont you just add f*** berserk potion pitches and blacksmith buffs while your at it.
Anyway 670mil zeny compared to the possible creation and gearing of 3 ro characters. wow.
Gearing a priest and a creator, wow. these are 2 very important chars in ro, which both need considerable amount of zeny in terms of gearing.
That right there is a much bigger zeny whole then your buff npc.

and you want to talk about economy???/
ECONOMY??? i can buy a f*** valk shield for 3mil, ice pick for 10mil a valk armor for 5mil. That is so f*** up i got no words for it. f*** up isnt even close to describing the absolute s*** of a economy this is. You know i can go on about your server all day long and i only touched the tip of the iceburge.
Your policy on 3rd party programs which you seem to fiddle with, i remeber reading your topic when you said no romedic which ended up in the ban of at least one guild, and then now you can download romedic off your homepage is absolutly hilarouse. oh wait you changed it and used somebody else's homepage ideas.iSNT THAT JUST GREAT? bravo, no wait its just straight up funny.


And you want to talk about a sunken ship. get the f*** out with your s*** comments, try not to copy and paste any other things from people on your way out of this topic please, plagarsim is a serious crime to commit, and hosting a s*** server should be right next to it.

At least Zeal has the balls to try something new and create a more balanced server. Sure theres lag spikes in game but so what? zeal has made it clear that its a work in progress. And yes when i did  pm to Zeal, he replyed to me in a matter of 5 minutes, and yes there was about 3 GM's on today, all at diffrent timezones which most servers cant even do these days, their always on for asain gamers and not for the north american one, and so +1 for zeal, having a gm on at diffrent timezones. And you also forgot to mention the npc in prontera shouts out some of the more important in game rules that players should know about, so stop trying to make it look like a spamming bot saying 'vote for server please!".
And also, on regards to MvP's and big guilds, that is usually the same scenario on most servers, its sad to see but dont think ZealRO has invented  this sad tragedy and what not.

I hope this post doesnt get deleted, its on topic and relatively filled with enough details to support any ideas created
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I want to split it into some basic points.

Comparing Woon with Zeal
This is one of the most stupid ideas if you really want to help Zeal. Woon is became a big name over the time. It has tons of quests, a beginner friendly market and the competition in woe is given.
Woon now is (2?) years old and they had a lot more time to make the server look like how its now.
From that point of view its a bit unfair just to say that Zeal is lacking a lot of things because he just started forming this server and cannot mess with such a big number from the very beginning.

But if we really would break it down to facts woon has a far better setup. They have some standart guilds and some guest guilds who like to play from time to time. All in all they have a routine. And then look at Zeal: Saturday, primetime, woe:fe. Woe:se is not ingame. Really? And I dont even know when this starts because you dont have a single hint in the forum about the server time. I really need to download some big files just to check out what time the has ingame. Srsly..

You better stop comparing them, really.

Server features
I want to clear the point about that they dont give a single s*** regarding 3pps because its not true. Back in the days woon tried to block everything and do you know what happened? The server lost a massive amount of players because of that. A lot of ppl said they might come back if potnd gets unblocked without any discussion anymore, ever.
You might could say "hey nice, the cheaters just left" but a server with a focus on woe (Zeal also tries to bring a heavy focus from what Ive heard) cant exist without those players. At the end of the day you cannot block everything. Its impossible. So the most fair option is to make some features free to use for everyone.

The buffs are a different story.
Im not a perma guest in their forum so I dont know the whole background but at least those features often getting realeased if the mass of the comunity wishes it. You might have a different opinion about it but noone cares what single QQbabe got to tell. You should consider that the actual economy wasnt as like it is yet from the very beginning. When they started a lot of things werent available like nowadays. So it was a target which a guild had to organize themself for it to get those features quickly.
You want us to say that some classes are now useless because of the buffs which are given by an npc? Wow, nice. Unfortunely I have bad news for you: agi/bless + full hp/sp recov + full negative condition cure is common standart for good woe focused servers. Everything else is pve s***.
And whats the major difference if I have multiclient army in town to buff myself or just to gain it from an npc where I had to for it before? I cant see your point.

KVM gear and op donations
Hardly discussed, opinions farer away then anything else. But at least every big woe server had those gear implemented. And with woe server I dont mean trash like avid, tervist or whatever they are called.
You are complaining so much about it but at least you seem not to realize that only KVM armors are a part of high competitive contents. You are crying about a valk shield for 3m but dont seem to realize that the mass of players dont give a single f*** about upgrades. Just buy it 1-2 times and you are done. How many shields do you think were farmed there? 1000? 2000? 5000? In 2 years do so many exist of them that there is no demand for it if the mass dont buy more then 2. Only trash pinoys tries to overup it and wonder why they are still got smashed so insanely hard in competitive modes then.
The same story with donates. you just have absolutely no f*** clue what gear should a woe focused server have. You can mix everything without paying reallife money and the requirements are mostly pretty fair. Sry but feather beret in woe is kinda outdated, u know?

QuoteAt least Zeal has the balls to try something new and create a more balanced server.
When I read this I really have to laugh. Lets be honest: if you are focussing on every content this server will be just trash. As I already said in another thread: the contents in ro dont harmonize with each other. BG focus destroys pve and pve destroys competitive gameplay (too boring for veterans). Playro (aka trivalro now) is the latest example for a fail try combining all contents with each other.
The only thing I can see is that he wants to bring later episodes ingame by the time. This sounds nice. But the truth is that it will be boring trash without some heavy modifcations. Did you ever played 14.2 on pre-renewal? I can tell you that its boring. The items you can obtain dont have any use because they are for renewal and the mobs also are a joke. They had a massive nerf from rathena and even an evil druid is far stronger as some mobs with 150k hp and more. Without some very exhausting costum changes the whole content extension will be just a waste of time. I dont want to blame the admin of zeal but I dont think that he realized it till yet.

Can you give some introduction about some other features which can be counted as exclusive? I have my doubts that there are any which a minimum amount of 5 server had them before. Else its kinda embarassing to say that somebody have balls just because of that. In that case quadrillions of pinoy admin must be have some huge hairy pairs but we all know the truth behind, sadly.

Server stability
Take a look at this:
(http://puu.sh/ddPDy/5cf34dfe73.png)
The server location seems to be the same s*** like avid and playro once. Do you know what 180ms means? It means that my champ with 190 aspd cant snap as fast as some champs with 170 (!!!!) aspd if the ping is under 50.

Do you know what Im calling this value? Im calling it a freaking joke. There is nothing wrong to order a small server and upgrade it to a bigger one if the time is rive. But choosing the server location this bad is a the absolute overkill for competitive gameplay.


Dont get me wrong on this thread: Zeal is young and nothing has to be perfect from the very beginning. But attacking servers which are quantum steps further converts the topic into a flame war without poi..- wait.. sheeet! Okay guys, just go on.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 02, 2014, 05:07 AM
Surprise! I woke up early and actually came back here to visit!
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
Your sitting on the fence with such important matters with the game, that doesnt attract people and only leaves further vunlarbility to the server,and in any other important factors to the game.Just put it right on your home page " we allow 3rd party programs".... "no delay too if you suck my d***". Your the new DivinityRO.Welcome.
Funny. All I did was point out how the lack of consistency with policies in general is bad for server image, even when the intent behind these changes were good(read?). If the folks at Woon think that allowing some 3pps is necessary to cater to the WoE people, so be it. If they finally realize that vanilla RO is bland and boring, oh great. Then again too many people just scream and run at the first sign of change =) Oh, and 'no delay if you suck my d***'? That's funny, seeing as how Niherd actually even finally bought adelays(Sway if you're reading this, yes he did.)


Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
1-Your donation shop is basically a copy and paste of any other server thats around, donate money, get gears, prevail!.... or just grind to death for the same gears and eventually you will prevail after getting your asskicked for a good bit.That doesnt seem fun to anyone but to people willing to pull money out of their pocket for some more pay2win.Yeah your welcome, your just the same as any other pay2win.Did you forget to mention that in your adversitments? good, you should add that point, its important.
Donate for gears? Get back to me when you can donate to actually gear up any character at all in Woon, unless you wanna be a rich brat and donate for stuff that can already be made in-game(????? really?) to sell to players. If Woon's donation shop sucks, it's in that it contains s*** that pretty much no one will be assed to donate for. So yes, when you say 'pay2win' and 'Woon' in the same sentence, that is a pretty good joke indeed.

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
2-Glorious gears are op.Period. Lots and Lots of people skip by servers that have implemented kvm gears, theres a reason.Its OP. Not even france iRO had them enabled, learn from the actuall gravity team and stop enabling OP equipment that shouldnt be availbe ingame. Oh wait im sorry you already did.RIP
People even wear those suits anymore? Oh yes excuse me I forgot how people enjoyed feeding the killstreaks of chemists.  As for the weapons, in a server with such heavy reductions and plentiful potting like Woon- good luck trying to get anywhere on a SinX with a... what, +10 Brave Carnage Katar? Or taking down a pally with your +10 VMS asura? But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people still think this gear is terrifyingly OP. RIP

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
3-Yeah your MvP and Mini Boss cards are a problem, you dont see how its a problem atm but you will eventually.
I'll wait and see how badly MVP cards can affect competitive areas when WoE restricts them and BG bans 2 of these. Oh... PvP room? Welcome to the burst-damage crutch-waving club.

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
1-lol do i need to explain this again? Not even gonna try since your so ignorant
2-Staple? Half or a Quarter of RO is about getting to that PvP level and if the best shield available in ro is Staple then you got issues .
3-LOL im not gonna justify the reasons of why such a npc is put in game.Clearly the guy who posted this topic is looking for meaningless negativity. Maybe you should mention your automated GM shouts to the server every often or so during the day about Write a review on rms,vote,suck my d*** and donate? Yeah so dont go bashing on other peoples
*cough.
1- You can always not and pretend that I know that you don't know what you're talking about.
2- Surprise! Woon's a mid-rate where people jump into BG pretty much on their second day of playing. Then again I guess people don't like a server where the disparity in gear between older and newer players isn't so great eh?
3- I guess you don't know how Woon's management seemed to see fit to shove their server rules in every newcomers face with rule book in-game items, NPC shouts, links to wiki pages etc cause of all the dumb reports and complaints they've been getting. Oh but a step to do something about dumb players can be somehow easily interpreted as server advertisment or something? kk

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
Anyway this is RMS, if you think a little "cute review" goes unnoticed then your joking yourself. People read such posts, and good job protraying yourself like  a man behind the wheel and in charge, after all we dont want you jinxing yourself on important matters now do  we? *cough.

Oh and have fun hosting guilds that like to exploit 3rdpp like meth4u and nodelay. Its quite the new program around the block.Im sure it will create some fun woes.


Also  i dont care if you dont take my feelings to heart, but you should care about those reviews put out there, because after all you do want to look like a loving and caring GM dont you?.... dont you?... *cough /ok
'Unnoticed'? Why would I think or hope that, more people reading this will be funny don't you think? And 'man in charge', 'behind the wheel'? Oh no, that's the guy over there. You know. With the name, 'Woon'?

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
Oh and have fun hosting guilds that like to exploit 3rdpp like meth4u and nodelay. Its quite the new program around the block.Im sure it will create some fun woes.

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
3rdpp like meth4u and nodelay. Its quite the new program around the block.

Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 01, 2014, 11:41 PM
3rdpp like meth4u and nodelay. Its quite the new

brb. I need to clean up this tea.

Oh yeah. No I'm not a GM. Just this server's biggest resident complainer next to La-De-Da.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Tidal on Dec 02, 2014, 05:24 AM
Quote from: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 04:30 AM
Just think, in the time all the woon RO GM's took to defend their right to 2 buttons, they could have just made new ones, apologized and moved on, leaving them with a better reputation from it. Instead it has arisen to this incident that is constantly being shown to all the people on the RMS forums.

Seffi actually made new ones to replace the "stolen" one days ago, but we're having problems putting them on the site.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Triper on Dec 02, 2014, 10:10 AM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 12:59 AM
There no irony here. Ratemyserver is a listing for private servers, and it definitely shouldn't list servers that perform plagiarism. I Dont know what your talking about.
People make private servers to create a better feal for the game, but clearly you wouldnt know anything about creating would you?
You're talking about plagiarism when 90+% of the servers around are copies of each other? That makes no sense.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 11:40 AM
Quote from: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 04:30 AM
Just think, in the time all the woon RO GM's took to defend their right to 2 buttons, they could have just made new ones, apologized and moved on, leaving them with a better reputation from it. Instead it has arisen to this incident that is constantly being shown to all the people on the RMS forums.
People who play Zeal would probably think this, but I feel most people would wonder why you guys were so bothered by it in the first place. I personally think it's nice to stay relevant while providing the lurkers of RMS something to read. You guys can be known as the server who complained over Facebook about 2 darn buttons!
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 01:09 PM
Im not gonna reply to this topic anymore, its clearly not going anywhere. I typed up a whole new  reply to all the posts above me, but theres really no point to it. Theres nothing to this topic. Clearly people have gotten into a new era of ultra-faggotry and extreme ignorance. But whatever, these arent my issues, i had a big list of things i wanted to say so bad, but then i realized there really isnt no point replying here.Theres no risk here, its just a topic about "thats what he and she said" and" this is my opion take it or leave it" and etc etc etc. So what? even if i beat you to death my points, nothing is going to happen.Your policies are gonna stay the same and your goann want to stick with them because thats what you believe is fine. Fair enough. Have fun with what you got, maybe down the road somebody will stop and realize whats going on. Other then that adios

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Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Dec 02, 2014, 02:53 PM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 01:09 PM
Im not gonna reply to this topic anymore, its clearly not going anywhere. I typed up a whole new  reply to all the posts above me, but theres really no point to it. Theres nothing to this topic. Clearly people have gotten into a new era of ultra-faggotry and extreme ignorance. But whatever, these arent my issues, i had a big list of things i wanted to say so bad, but then i realized there really isnt no point replying here.Theres no risk here, its just a topic about "thats what he and she said" and" this is my opion take it or leave it" and etc etc etc. So what? even if i beat you to death my points, nothing is going to happen.Your policies are gonna stay the same and your goann want to stick with them because thats what you believe is fine. Fair enough. Have fun with what you got, maybe down the road somebody will stop and realize whats going on. Other then that adios

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#methnewcheat2014
#potndgamebreaker2016

Go home Case, youre drunk. Come back if you understand the latest woe meta.
#thingsneverhappen

Have fun on your pinoy trash servers where you think the ppl really would know what they are doing.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Peanut on Dec 02, 2014, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Zeal on Nov 30, 2014, 08:30 AM
Yes, where did you find that? on WoonRO or on the designers facebook?

https://www.facebook.com/aeroblax (https://www.facebook.com/aeroblax)

Case closed :P

Ah it's aeroblax. It's normal. He is just copying all s**t.  same story here http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/servers-using-talonro's-rules/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/servers-using-talonro's-rules/) .
Good luck!
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 05:07 PM
Quote from: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 11:40 AM
People who play Zeal would probably think this, but I feel most people would wonder why you guys were so bothered by it in the first place. I personally think it's nice to stay relevant while providing the lurkers of RMS something to read. You guys can be known as the server who complained over Facebook about 2 darn buttons!

Not actually upset with it, Just find it interesting how much effort the gm's took to slander zeal and refuse by (Not caring) about the buttons. I just think you guys at woon are the ones who really escalated this unnecessarily. Could have just apologized changed the buttons and moved on after zeal posted proof that they were his. Instead you guys just brushed it off until this thread was getting more and more attention.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Amistr Delicacy on Dec 02, 2014, 06:39 PM
Quote from: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 05:07 PM
Not actually upset with it, Just find it interesting how much effort the gm's took to slander zeal and refuse by (Not caring) about the buttons. I just think you guys at woon are the ones who really escalated this unnecessarily. Could have just apologized changed the buttons and moved on after zeal posted proof that they were his. Instead you guys just brushed it off until this thread was getting more and more attention.
Server advertisement perhaps.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 06:44 PM
Quote from: Zalar on Dec 02, 2014, 05:07 PM
Not actually upset with it, Just find it interesting how much effort the gm's took to slander zeal and refuse by (Not caring) about the buttons. I just think you guys at woon are the ones who really escalated this unnecessarily. Could have just apologized changed the buttons and moved on after zeal posted proof that they were his. Instead you guys just brushed it off until this thread was getting more and more attention.
Well I think there were a couple people who are really to blame for escalating it lol (looking at Doomed). But yeah that makes a lot of sense, as Tidal said I did actually make new buttons a couple nights ago but the site was being dumb and they wouldn't show up (I know nothing of web development).

Also tbh it's kinda fun playing on the dramatic side once in awhile, never really got to do it before and I gave it a shot on this thread lol.

Edit: OMG I'm so pro! I got the new ones up, they're kinda lame I'm sorry about that but yeah. New ones are up! Now you may all rejoice.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Dec 02, 2014, 07:00 PM
The new buttons look like made with MS paint for win 98.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 07:02 PM
Quote from: exii on Dec 02, 2014, 07:00 PM
The new buttons look like I made them with MS paint for win 98.
Wow, I told ya they were lame :/ Despite that comment I'll continue being proud of myself for figuring it out.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Doomed on Dec 02, 2014, 10:14 PM
Quote from: Charity Case on Dec 02, 2014, 01:09 PM
Clearly people have gotten into a new era of ultra-faggotry .

Wow i didn't think you'd stop. I'm glad you described yourself before accepting defeat.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Seffi ❤ on Dec 02, 2014, 10:40 PM
Zhin was kind enough to make me some new not so s*** buttons, no more MS Paint 98! Got rid of mine and put those ones on now, thank u Zhin <3
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 02, 2014, 10:47 PM
You so welcome. I like to make the pixels my bish.

Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Woon on Dec 02, 2014, 11:32 PM
Seffi is far less stubborn than I am. I would have kept this going for days just for the entertainment purposes.
Anyway hope you all enjoyed Woonies appearing on RMS, I think we've brought our fair share of entertainment. Also just to clarify,Woon Reloaded had its 3 year anniversary in November.
Thanks for all the fun replies everyone, definitely enjoyed this thread, let's do this again in like a year or so.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: exii on Dec 03, 2014, 01:52 AM
You really know how to manage flame wars. One of the few who are able to..
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: bashph on Dec 14, 2014, 02:10 PM
I read the whole thread and I ended up checking Zeal's website and forum, it looks good but I just find it ironic when Zeal is accusing Woon for copying a button when he copied LifeRO's server info. Zeal didn't bother to rephrase the texts lol. The server info of LifeRO was posted few months before Zeal opened (you can find the old info from the advertisement section of RMS).  Good job Zeal. I havent checked your server rules, you might've copied TalonRO's haha

lifero's old info (RIP) http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/life-ragnarok-online-(opens-on-july-4-2014)/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/life-ragnarok-online-(opens-on-july-4-2014)/)
http://rathena.org/board/topic/96446-life-ragnarok-online/#entry262130 (http://rathena.org/board/topic/96446-life-ragnarok-online/#entry262130)
zeal's info: http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/zeal-ragnarok-online-coming-soon-join-our-community (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/zeal-ragnarok-online-coming-soon-join-our-community)
plagiarism at its finest. lol. ohh the ironyyy
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 14, 2014, 05:59 PM
As much as I want this to be another reason to hate on AvidRO there's nothing similar at all between those two info threads.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: bashph on Dec 14, 2014, 07:20 PM
Quote from: Zhin on Dec 14, 2014, 05:59 PM
As much as I want this to be another reason to hate on AvidRO there's nothing similar at all between those two info threads.
Have you even tried reading it? The structure of the post and some words are exactly the same.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 14, 2014, 07:54 PM
It's... No, it's not. But good try.  /no1
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Chilly on Dec 23, 2014, 02:52 PM
I started playing both Zeal and Woon with a few friends because of this topic, good job to the topic creator giving both some free publicity, i forgot how much more fun BG is in pre-re!

I wouldn't be surprised if the admins of both Zeal and Woon were friends and they set this topic up to bring attention to both, come on now, do you really think they would be arguing back and forth over a few website buttons?   Next level advertizing right here.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: HobbesWasRight on Dec 23, 2014, 04:05 PM
This thread went on for a total of 6 pages between players and GMs alike over buttons.  Furthermore, it never got moved once to the rant/rave section of the forums.


I'm impressed.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL RAGNAROK ONLINE, UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ZENY
Post by: Balbanes Beoulve on Dec 27, 2014, 08:01 PM
Quote from: Jolina on Nov 24, 2014, 06:37 PM


AnimaRO...?? You can't be serious lol.....has it returned?...No wait, that would've been AnesisRO.
Title: Re: A TRUE PLAYER REVIEW OF ZEAL ro,UNLIKE THOSE FAKE REVIEWS FOR ITEMS/POINTS
Post by: Zhin on Dec 28, 2014, 12:09 AM
Every time someone replies to this thread, a Mavka gets its wings.