Author Topic: Many False Reviews For AlternativeRO. (Read 4164 times)

Soboro · « **on:** Mar 10, 2008, 04:57 pm »

RMS AltRO Site.

I do not know of EcchiRO. They seem to think that they have been ripped off somehow. AltRO does not utilize any of their perverted naked sprites, and to my knowledge none of these people have ever, ever logged into Alternative Ragnarok Online.

They claim that things have been stolen from their server, but I know for a fact that nothing has been stolen. Everything on AltRO is freely available and utilized on almost every customized server, including NPC's, scripts, events, and the custom sprites. EcchiRO are making faceless claims trying to deface this brand new server.

It only opened 3 days ago. There is a higher than 5 player maximum, more players than GMs at this point, and it's actually a well put together server for being so new. I really hate the negative attention these spiteful players are displaying, and I hope they know it is against the ToS. (Even EcchiRO's server Administrator has posted negative comments, none of these players ever logged in.)

I think this is quite ridiculous and hope it is dealt with in a timely manner. (I am in no way part of the AltRO staff, but I felt strongly about this.)

RateMyServer Ragnarok Community · « **on:** Mar 10, 2008, 04:57 pm »

MWright967 · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 08:12 pm »

Quote from: Soboro on Mar 10, 2008, 04:57 pm

RMS AltRO Site.

I do not know of EcchiRO. They seem to think that they have been ripped off somehow. AltRO does not utilize any of their perverted naked sprites, and to my knowledge none of these people have ever, ever logged into Alternative Ragnarok Online.

They claim that things have been stolen from their server, but I know for a fact that nothing has been stolen. Everything on AltRO is freely available and utilized on almost every customized server, including NPC's, scripts, events, and the custom sprites. EcchiRO are making faceless claims trying to deface this brand new server.

It only opened 3 days ago. There is a higher than 5 player maximum, more players than GMs at this point, and it's actually a well put together server for being so new. I really hate the negative attention these spiteful players are displaying, and I hope they know it is against the ToS. (Even EcchiRO's server Administrator has posted negative comments, none of these players ever logged in.)

I think this is quite ridiculous and hope it is dealt with in a timely manner. (I am in no way part of the AltRO staff, but I felt strongly about this.)

I don't even play Ecchi RO. I have my own server. However, I play others in my spare time. And lemme ask you bud- how is you know that none of us have ever logged in if you aren't part of the staff huh? Did the server owner just tell you? The owner could tell you anything they wanted to, doesn't mean you have to believe it.

I for one stand by my claims, and agree with the Ecchi RO people. Get your facts straight.

Soboro · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 08:47 pm »

Thank you for flaming, which is against the rules of this board.

However, I've been online for around 24 hours straight, and haven't seen anyone except the people that wrote the favorable reviews actually online. I've also seen no one that wrote these fake reviews sign up to the forums.

By the way, "Bud", if you had an ounce of intelligence you'd understand that my initial post didn't even include your review in the listing of the fake ones. However, by the sheer guilt you display, and your track record of posting unfavorable reviews on every server you've been on (I checked your profile), I can safely assume that it's okay to ignore anything you have to say.

Ansuz Isaz · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 09:10 pm »

Soboro, I think you need to relax. o_O His comments don't qualify as flaming. He's telling you not to believe everything you here, and to keep your facts straight. That's not exactly flaming material, my good fellow. Actually, you insulting his intelligence qualifies more for flaming than his post. xD

On the other hand, I'm kind of curious. xD I tried to look through the forums, by the registry e-mail didn't come back to me for the EcchiRO, and I'm too lazy to deal with it to look into clues as to why it is happening. From what I can tell, AltRO doesn't seem to be even remotely like EcchiRo, so, for the moment, I'll agree to the statements of those being false reviews.

MWright967 · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 09:13 pm »

Quote from: Soboro on Mar 10, 2008, 08:47 pm

Thank you for flaming, which is against the rules of this board.

However, I've been online for around 24 hours straight, and haven't seen anyone except the people that wrote the favorable reviews actually online. I've also seen no one that wrote these fake reviews sign up to the forums.

By the way, "Bud", if you had an ounce of intelligence you'd understand that my initial post didn't even include your review in the listing of the fake ones. However, by the sheer guilt you display, and your track record of posting unfavorable reviews on every server you've been on (I checked your profile), I can safely assume that it's okay to ignore anything you have to say.

No, I have psychic powers and I'm able to distinguish my horrible review from the others which you lumped together. Even if you didn't mean it that way, yC or Riot would treat all of the posts as part of the same batch......Guess you didn't consider that huh?

Lol? The sheer guilt? FYI, since you apparently cannot read, I don't feel ''guilty'' at all, I simply stated that what you were saying was false. If thats your idea of guilt, you need to be euthanized right now. I even said, ''I for one stand by my claims''.

Don't bother posting back. No one is going to care, and perhaps you should give some thought to uhhhhhhhhh- Maybe we're actually right?

Oh, and by the way, I said nothing to qualify as flaming...Hell, you were closer to that mark than I.

So...I repeat. Get your facts straight.

Soboro · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 09:20 pm »

Quote from: MWright967 on Mar 10, 2008, 09:13 pm

Quote from: Soboro on Mar 10, 2008, 08:47 pm
Thank you for flaming, which is against the rules of this board.

However, I've been online for around 24 hours straight, and haven't seen anyone except the people that wrote the favorable reviews actually online. I've also seen no one that wrote these fake reviews sign up to the forums.

By the way, "Bud", if you had an ounce of intelligence you'd understand that my initial post didn't even include your review in the listing of the fake ones. However, by the sheer guilt you display, and your track record of posting unfavorable reviews on every server you've been on (I checked your profile), I can safely assume that it's okay to ignore anything you have to say.

No, I have psychic powers and I'm able to distinguish my horrible review from the others which you lumped together. Even if you didn't mean it that way, yC or Riot would treat all of the posts as part of the same batch......Guess you didn't consider that huh?

Lol? The sheer guilt? FYI, since you apparently cannot read, I don't feel ''guilty'' at all, I simply stated that what you were saying was false. If thats your idea of guilt, you need to be euthanized right now. I even said, ''I for one stand by my claims''.

Don't bother posting back. No one is going to care, and perhaps you should give some thought to uhhhhhhhhh- Maybe we're actually right?

Oh, and by the way, I said nothing to qualify as flaming...Hell, you were closer to that mark than I.

So...I repeat. Get your facts straight.

All I can say to this is log on to servers and try them out before you review them. I'll get a staff member for this server to deal with this now. I don't feel like defending myself because you felt like throwing in a bad review.

Idola The Witty · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 10, 2008, 09:37 pm »

MWright967 right now you're being a hypocrite. You tell him to get his facts straight yet you haven't even been on the server. You claim that it's a complete rip when yet I'm a scripter for that server.
Lets take a quick look at your review okay?

Quote from: MWright967

A complete ripoff of Ecchi RO, which isn't even that great in its own right.

If EcchiRO has an alignment system, custom skills, and custom dungeons/towns, including an event script which I made from scratch, then you can start to claim that it's a copy.

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I heard rumors about this horrible nature of this server, and I had to see for myself. Horrendous lagg

Horrendous lag? Perhaps you should stop torrenting, or upgrade your computer.

Quote from: MWright967

3/4 of the server are just GM characters, extremely rude, profain, even KILLING PLAYERS. Don't bother with this RO server.

Last time I checked... 6 (I'm including SubGM's and Helperes) was not 3/4ths of 49... so again get your facts straight.
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Rude? Yes because helping players with their sprite/gravity errors is considered rude. [/sarcasm]
Killing players? Since when has a GM ever gone out of their way to make a players life hell?

Seeing as the sudden flow of bad reviews happened all at once, and that all of the people that left the bad reviews are associated with EcchiRO in one way or another, it's quite obvious that they are doing this with the intention to harm the servers community/reputation. Stand by your claim all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it is false.

yC · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 11, 2008, 02:10 am »

No need to start flaming here, this is the report section only. Any discussion about servers can go to general discussion <insert rate here>.

Any reviews that are breaking the review guidelines or user/reviewer Terms of Services are subject to deletion.

~EXKillA~ · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 12, 2008, 10:42 am »

To get the Facts straight i want to tell you something about the Owner of alternative-ro and what happened.

First thing to say
i am ~EXkillA~ Administrator of Ecchi-Ro and this server is on since september.2006 and we NEVER had any problems with other server except one server which tried to steal our custom sprites.
And to let you know, we dont accuse a other server for stealing players, stealing stuff and coping us just for fun!
If we do this we have Facts and important reasons to this and if you read my posts and the followings *because what i have to say is huge* then you maybe understand why we made the reviews on Alternative-ro.

So far you only have/heard 1 version and that is the version from alternative-ro payers

In the next few *many* lines i will tell you what Ehrgeiz was doing from the 1.march on ecchi-ro until her banning
and after that time
and what i write now is true! if you dont believe me, you can read the logs, which will be posted in here too!

First appearence of Advertising (which is strictly forbidden and causes perm ban):

the first Spoilers will show you when Ehrgeiz invited players

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*note* Thats the First time i read in the Chatlog that Ehrgeiz talked from another HENTAI Ragnarok server like ecchi-ro
and he/she also started talking bad about our server

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i dont want to float everything, thats why i only will write down which players ehrgeiz invites

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NOW we come to the point when Ehrgeiz asked GM-Raptor about my 2nd GM Character Lexian in Ecchi-Ro
to explain i have 2 diffrent GM-Characters one is ~EXkillA with the Position Administrator which is rarely ingame just for really important things but nearly every player know that i am both
and i made a second account called Lexian with the position Sprite GM

here the Conversation:

before this i havent known anything about the current situation around Ehrgeiz

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Sorry i stop here and post the next part

Posted on: Mar 12, 2008, 01:34 am

2nd part

after that Ehrgeiz invited another player to his/her server

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now we come to the point when i read the chatlog and found out about Ehrgeizs advertisments
*note from above: Adveritsing causes PERM ban*

The Player WTF!!!! with ID number 2002275 IS Ehrgeiz and he/she was takling to a friend or a random player

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*note: there the Rumours started, ehrgeiz told everyone that gm-prism cat and me Lexian will leave this server to join alternative-ro*
And why did Ehrgeiz choose me and GM-Prism Cat? because GM-Prism Cat has many german friends in Ecchi-Ro and Ehrgeiz thought they would go with her, and she/he choose me because i get along with most of the players.

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*note: At this time Ehrgeiz was still crying about the report in forum, but Ehrgeiz was banned vor stealing players and making advertising for alternative-ro*

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after this i banned him and all his accs and ehrgeiz made a new one, still talking to player,
Ehrgeiz told them what they would do if he/she crashes the server and that they shall come to his server and that he will replace all items for them.

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*note: i like it how Ehrgeiz lies to everyone, telling them that he/she joined a new server, truth is ehrgeiz is the owner*

i end here again and post a third part,
I apologize to all and all gms who take their time to read this except to players from alternative-ro

Posted on: Mar 12, 2008, 01:38 am

Now i will make the 3rd part
my appologies again ~~

and if the log parts in the second part are confusing you, i have checked all Character ID and Names and IPs and all which make advertising and such things come from Ehrgeiz and some from his/her friends.

Now i want to reply to the Reporter of this Report:

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I do not know of EcchiRO.

Due to the fact that i have checked the Character Database i found a Soboro Player, but i wont accuse you to lie to this point.

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They seem to think that they have been ripped off somehow. AltRO does not utilize any of their perverted naked sprites, and to my knowledge none of these people have ever, ever logged into Alternative Ragnarok Online.

Thats not true, please read what i have posted in the first and second part.
And why do you say perveted naked sprites when alternative-ro is going to have such naked sprites too? thats somewhat of illogical. sorry

I dont know your knowledge but i can tell you that i WERE online in alternative-ro, not bymyself but with GM-Raptot.
let me explain:

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so please Soboro dont tell us that we were never in that server. otherwise we couldnt get our facts for the reviews

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They claim that things have been stolen from their server, but I know for a fact that nothing has been stolen. Everything on AltRO is freely available and utilized on almost every customized server, including NPC's, scripts, events, and the custom sprites. EcchiRO are making faceless claims trying to deface this brand new server.

How shall i say it....
Some month ago we had problems with another server called Erotic-Ro and they tried to steal our servers and we did something about this.
and sinse the beginning of Ecchi-Ro in september 2006 *First our server was calle Porn-Ro but we were kicked out off all top sites, thats why we changed the name* we were suspicious when player came to us and asked us about our sprites, or player said they make new sprites, because we dont want it that someone takes our sprites.

I have to say here that not all Sprites are made by Ecchi-Ro many of the Female Sprites are from a Korean Site but they were all not finished and we went on and finish them. and still we are finishing sprites and creating new one.

Maybe it was wrong to accuse alternative-ro for stealing our stuff *stuff = Custom Sprites and Custom NPCS* but since we are that suspicious it cant be helped -.-

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EcchiRO are making faceless claims trying to deface this brand new server.

Sorry Soboro to tell you, but why shall we make faceless claims and try to deface this brand new server? wouldnt make sense
because if this is true what you are saying, then ecchi-ro would claim and accuse every ragnarok server in the world which has custom stuff.

We dont accuse a Server for nothing -.- and as you can see it i have reasons and facts but only if you have read everything i wrote.

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It only opened 3 days ago. There is a higher than 5 player maximum, more players than GMs at this point, and it's actually a well put together server for being so new. I really hate the negative attention these spiteful players are displaying, and I hope they know it is against the ToS. (Even EcchiRO's server Administrator has posted negative comments, none of these players ever logged in.)

This server has not opened 3 days ago as you read in my post, its more then a week now.
And yes maybe there are more than 5 players maximum but there are more than 4-5 GMs already.
But thats not the point.

And sorry to tell you, but i made this review to set things right, because alternative-ro IS stealing players and it IS trying to copy us, as you can read it in the post.
maybe the part with stealing our (custom) stuff isnt that true and for that i want to apologize -.-

maybe you, Soboro, can understand us -.- WE DONT want that someone steals our players, our stuffs, and copy our server
and we also dont want it that Ehrgeiz Hacks our server as he/she said it in the logs i posted.

But finally Ehrgeiz already hacked our server 2 times because we banned him/her because of advertising, stealing players, stariting unfair rumours and talking s***.
and if Ehrgeiz cant understand it that we HAVE THE RIGHT to do this then the WHOLE Ecchi-Ro feels Sorry for Ehrgeizs ignorance.

and btw we have a save copy of our server in many computers of our GM team to avoid Ehrgeiz hacking and if Ehrgeiz wont stop then we will attack back -.-

Before i end my posts i want to say in the last part:

Dear Ehrgeiz,

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All we want is to have calmness on Ecchi-Ro and around Ecchi-Ro and what Alternative-ro is doing is neither fair nor right.

and like MWright967 said it:
Get your facts right.

what happened in the past 10 days casts a black cloud over Alternative-ro and not about Ecchi-Ro

Last but not least:

Dear Ratemyserver GM Team
im sorry for posting that much but i wanted to tell ecchi-ros version and to make things clear.

Posted on: Mar 12, 2008, 02:30 am

Sorry i have forgotten to say:

Ecchi-Ro has nothing against alternative-ro, its a new server and nothing more,

BUT we have something against Ehrgeiz and her friends which do all this to us -.-

Flaming : Using a spoiler to hide a flame attempt is sneaky - but too bad we read everything.

MWright967 · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 12, 2008, 01:27 pm »

Thank you for actually posting something worth a damn instead of assuming things like other people.

~EXKillA~ · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 12, 2008, 03:26 pm »

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Thank you for actually posting something worth a damn instead of assuming things like other people.

nja... rms only heard alternative-ros version and that from 1 player which isnt even the owner...

and i am the next owner after the current owner and our current owner has nothing to do with this situation ~~ dont want to disturb him with that

Ansuz Isaz · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 12, 2008, 03:51 pm »

... Ouch. x.o; It's a little hard to argue with that evidence, in between the evidence itself and the sheer amount of it. xD

Can AlternativeRO viably debunk this evidence with any counter-evidence? o.o I personally felt the reviews itself didn't have enough content in it, though. xD Plus, any review should legitimately make grounds for all it's scores in game play. Maybe play the game for a day or two, give it a fair score, then make the statement of how it's been advertising on your server? =P -Shrug.- You could have always made a post reporting them advertising on your server here in the first place. xD Probably would have saved a lot of time.

~EXKillA~ · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 13, 2008, 03:48 am »

yeah i noticed it after i wrote the report.... but at that time our server has crashed 3 time so far because of them -.-

if you want i make a report afterwards for advertising

the funny thing i noticed is when i looked through their Server information, i found the rules

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Server Rules
# Do not KS (Kill Steal) monsters from any player. You may attack MvPs which other players are attacking since they are FFA (Free for All).
# Do not abuse/insult any players. All players have the same rights so don't insult them because you think you are better or feel it is funny.
# Do not open shops ANYWHERE other than the designated area market by the market warp.
# Do not spam messages or skills inside a city at any time!
# No begging for items, zeny etc. Players really get annoyed by it. Eg. "zeny plz"
# Do not send friend requests/party invites/guild invites continuously. If a person rejects, it obviously means they do not wish to join/be in your friend list.
# Do not beg for items or insult any GMs.
# No botting of any sort!
# Do not scam people - It's playing unfairly.
# DO NOT ADVERTISE ANOTHER RO SERVER
# And Most important rule of all, is to just have fun!
If you do not keep to these rules, you'll be warned. After the first warning, you get one more chance. Mess it up and you land in jail for 3 days. (The jail time depends on the offence). Your account may be banned if it is serious enough.

i thought at this moment "what the f*** is wrong with this server" -.- making adervitsment on other servers and cry when they got banned there, and then they make such f*** rules to avoid that other servers steal their players.

those guys need to clear up their brains -.-

They treat others like that with advertising but they want to prevent others from doing that on their server

or the hint at the end

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If you do not keep to these rules, you'll be warned. After the first warning, you get one more chance. Mess it up and you land in jail for 3 days. (The jail time depends on the offence). Your account may be banned if it is serious enough.

When GM-Raptor and me where on their server, we havent got any warning -.- they just banned us and jailed us event if we havent broken any rules.

Idola The Witty · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 13, 2008, 02:10 pm »

I didn't notice that this topic was still being posted in considering that the matter was already dealt with (false server reviews).

Quote from: MWright967 on Mar 12, 2008, 01:27 pm

Thank you for actually posting something worth a damn instead of assuming things like other people.

@MWright967
You don't have the right to say anything until you've answer to my post. If you played long enough to see all the GM's and experience lag (also if you were able to see the content that apparently belongs to EcchiRO), then you should easily be able to tell me your account name. If you don't have an account in AlternativeRO then you don't have the right to leave a review on it. Visit the link. I think you'll find it inspiring.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,2311.0.html

@~EXKillA~
Funny how you pulled the "MY SERVER GOT HACKED" card.
I know for a fact what the admin can't hack let alone put together a batch file, so stop making false accusations without providing at least some shred of proof. If in fact that you are being attacked, post here the logs of the login-serv (I believe this is the right one that shows DoS attacks?), a screenshot, or some other means of proof.

Also why not prove that Soboro joined your server by placing the email/IP he registered with? I'm curious to see your proof. While we're at that how about you tell me the account name that you and your GM friend signed up with? I can take a quick scan at the account.txt and see if you made an account or not (this goes for your other 3 players including MWright967). Or do you want me to check the logs for any @ban commands that were used.

Now for your claims on the server copying you.
If I log into EcchiRO, will it show my alignment upon login? Are there any merchants on the ground? Are there any alignment based items? Does EcchiRO even have good/evil alignments? Do they have the scripts that I wrote from scratch including Challenge Mode and custom skills? I ask you this now because if the answer is yes, then you're going to answer to me as to why you have my custom scripts from my server.

About the NPC's being in the same location, how about you log into one of the many mid rate/high rate servers (I think GenocideRO can be used as an example here). Notice how all of the NPC's are in the same place? Are you going to say that they copied you too? Just because the NPC's are lined up along the sidewalk of Prontera, giving players easier access to finding them? Have you created those scripts from scratch and submitted them to eAthena? Or are you just copying other servers by using the same scripts that they are (warper, healer, etc). In fact I'm willing to go as far as asking if you have any original customs at all (and no I'm not talking about custom items that anybody can make, I'm talking about scripts that change the "dynamics" of the server such as what AlternativeRO has).

Don't even go there with the advertising thing because your players advertised here, and also in their false reviews geared towards the server (The first comment left by one of your members). I'm not going to sit here and have somebody even implicate that my scripts are anything but original. Also haven't you realized that there have been no "DIZ SERVER SUX" spammed on your RMS page/forums? We don't tell our players to deface other servers just because the admin wills it.

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@~EXKillA~
I've been informed that you were banned trying to recruit people to your server while trashing AlternativeRO. You were the only person that was banned (checked both atcommands logs and account logs).

Your characters right?

Quote from: athena.txt

150055   2000030,0   Calmaty
150056   2000031,0   Funny
150058   2000032,0   still funny
150059   2000032,1   more funnier

Soboro · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 13, 2008, 03:30 pm »

MWright967, leave. You posted a false review and Idola can produce the information to prove you wrong.

~EXKillA~, I never registered for your "Hentai" server. I do not get off to animated 2-Dimensional sprites. Please stop accusing me of anything that occurred on your server, ever. I only am on Alternative RO because Idola was the Admin of a different server, which merged with AltRO. I don't care about any of your personal drama. I doubt you got hacked, even if you did, perhaps you should secure your servers and information in a better manner.

Do not knock on servers that 'steal' your players. If your players truly enjoyed being on your hentai server, they would not enjoy AltRO, because it doesn't contain nearly enough naked sprites. Idola is a scripting genius, and much of what he produced on his server has been transferred to AltRO.

The fact remains that it is a REVIEW. It is simply NOT there for you to express your discontent with the way they obtain players. You should have banned advertisers on their first offense. This is not AltRO's fault. The server itself is great, works fine, has a good GM staff, and is worthy of more than a 10, 19, or 27 grade on any review.

Get -your- facts straight. I will not post anything on 42 hours of no sleep again. From now on you'll get the fun person in me, who will denounce anything you say as fiction until you can prove without a doubt that it is factual.

Please produce my IP and Email address like Idola asked you to, however.

Edits are from being yelled at for being "too mean".

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