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Offline Poki

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #90 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:00 am »
Nah screw it.  I'll just stick with this:
No need for a new thread.  It'd just repeat itself because this thread wasn't even solved to begin with.


« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 01:23 am by Poki »

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Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #90 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:00 am »

Offline Scars

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #91 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:20 am »
I was reading your thread Poki you do have a point. "Why is the review removed".




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This should be the second time your review has been deleted.  This is because your review is not really a review about the server but a complain or alert on the security of the server.

Really a not good enough answer, agreed by every third party here, (Except JJJ  :P)


That's the main problem here+ yC arguing too much and loses her credibility as I've already warn her about, she need to conclude this argument, and by the way, wow this gotten bigger, Symbiote has done a bigger damage then I thought.

My personal opinion is RMS lacks professionalism especially in the forum, but I don't believe that they're corrupted.

Cheers.

Offline Poki

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #92 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:24 am »
@Symbiote:
I am curious about one thing though:
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My review does not only mention their lack of security. Why is it so difficult for your poor mind to comprehend, dear? I'm just not understand how it is that an Administrator for such a popular website is so oblivious. My review contains the same, if not more than, at least 70% of the reviews on the website. Security can fall under the server's stability, I'm sorry to let you know.

You gave the server's stability a 7 and majority of your review was based on security.  For something so negative on the server's security which links with the server's stability, why on Earth did you give it a 7?

@yC


Mentions the server's stability.  It also mentions the helpfulness of the staff as well as the friendliness.  Technically, it mentions about 3 things in his review regarding to the score he gave.  Considering the character limit, I'm pretty sure that's good enough as a review.

As for the other guidelines/rules, he's pretty much abiding them.  I still fail to see what he has done wrong.

@Scars
Sup.

Offline yC

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #93 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:26 am »
Okay, I will try to reach a conclusion here.  It will be the last attempt and if it fails, you can just spam this topic all you want and I won't be reading it any longer.  You can refuse my suggestion like you always do.  Then I will simply conclude that there is no point arguing with someone from Mars.

I am reading this topic, http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/suggestionsrequests/rms-review-character-limit which poki just made a new reply.  Can you, Mr. Symbiote please demonstrate to me/us a 500 character version of your review that you are disputing.  Just post it here.  In order to be a valid review, with respect to the review guidelines, I hope you can include more of your in-game experience, your opinion on certain features such as those included in the rating categories (server, community, gm, gameplay) and any other opinion that you would like to share to potential player of the server.

Well if you made that suggestion, at least give me a feel of how it will work.  I sincerely hope you can do that.  I am already planning and thinking of increasing the char limit to 500.  Not a lot but since you suggested and 500 is a limit you wish to have based on the other topic.  We could give that a try.  You will get the block removed from your main account and will be able to post the new review.  That's if you can do as suggested and the review contain element of a general review to a server, not just hacking and virus.

Lastly, you will need to create a separate topic for a separate report if you want any response on that.  Because it allows me to ask questions and get answers directly.  Without jumping into conversation regarding this topic itself.

It's getting late and I might not be able to response to you until tomorrow morning.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 01:34 am by yC »

Offline Scars

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #94 on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:29 am »
Um, the main issue in this topic is really not about char-limit...

Offline Symbiote

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #95 on: Apr 08, 2009, 02:38 am »
@Symbiote:
I am curious about one thing though:
Quote from: Symbiote
My review does not only mention their lack of security. Why is it so difficult for your poor mind to comprehend, dear? I'm just not understand how it is that an Administrator for such a popular website is so oblivious. My review contains the same, if not more than, at least 70% of the reviews on the website. Security can fall under the server's stability, I'm sorry to let you know.

You gave the server's stability a 7 and majority of your review was based on security.  For something so negative on the server's security which links with the server's stability, why on Earth did you give it a 7?

You're correct, 7 is too high for all of the issues. In fact, quite a few things are rated higher than I'd have liked to given. The main reason was to lower the chance of my review being deleted, as I had a feeling this would happen (it has before, after all). When reposting my review, I've considered lowering it, and I should lower it, however, I'm sure I would get called out on doing so. Thus, I haven't.
Posted on: Apr 08, 2009, 01:40 am
Okay, I will try to reach a conclusion here.  It will be the last attempt and if it fails, you can just spam this topic all you want and I won't be reading it any longer.  You can refuse my suggestion like you always do.  Then I will simply conclude that there is no point arguing with someone from Mars.

I am reading this topic, http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/suggestionsrequests/rms-review-character-limit which poki just made a new reply.  Can you, Mr. Symbiote please demonstrate to me/us a 500 character version of your review that you are disputing.  Just post it here.  In order to be a valid review, with respect to the review guidelines, I hope you can include more of your in-game experience, your opinion on certain features such as those included in the rating categories (server, community, gm, gameplay) and any other opinion that you would like to share to potential player of the server.

Well if you made that suggestion, at least give me a feel of how it will work.  I sincerely hope you can do that.  I am already planning and thinking of increasing the char limit to 500.  Not a lot but since you suggested and 500 is a limit you wish to have based on the other topic.  We could give that a try.  You will get the block removed from your main account and will be able to post the new review.  That's if you can do as suggested and the review contain element of a general review to a server, not just hacking and virus.

Didn't notice this post. Anyway, I still don't see a reason to revise my current review, as it still does not break any guidelines whatsoever. However, given the limit were increased to 500, I'd revise it anyway. Also, do not delete this thread, or anything in it, even if it is resolved, or prepare for a sh!tstorm.

"Essence security is horrible. I was able to gain unauthorized Admin access for nearly a year, and take control of the server on Halloween '08. Tira and the staff still did not learn their lesson, as they recently allowed a virus to be passed among the community through their patchers. With the introduction of the 'new' classes, the little balance the server had is even worse. Zeny is overly abundant, and you will often find yourself pondering the staff's abilities. Read RMS forums for more."

Server
Stability: 2 | Availability: 8

Community
Friendliness: 4 | Eventfulness: 5

Game Masters
Friendliness: 4 | Availability: 3 | Helpfulness: 2

Game-play
Economy: 2 | Guild Competition: 5 | Class Balance: 5

I'd also recommend that you take heed of Ayu's suggestion, as it is a great one. There can be an extra option added to review to include a link to a forum review that has expanded upon the contents of the 500-limit review. Require the review have 400 characters minimum before the option becomes available, so that they cannot link to a server advertisement thread on the forums with a half-donkey review, and allow the reviewer to enter a topic number instead of an entire URL, so that they cannot link to other sites.

Lastly, you will need to create a separate topic for a separate report if you want any response on that.  Because it allows me to ask questions and get answers directly.  Without jumping into conversation regarding this topic itself.

No, actually. I don't "need" to create anything separate. You can clearly see how the review breaks guidelines, there is no need to communicate with me about the review, nor ask me questions about the review. So remove it, per the rules.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 02:40 am by Symbiote »

[Šŷmβĭö†ė] - "There is nothing in this world to believe in."

Offline Scars

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #96 on: Apr 08, 2009, 03:36 am »
And now what?

Offline Chexmix

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #97 on: Apr 08, 2009, 03:55 am »
Well, I read the first page... and skimmed through the second... and saw no reason to continue reading. This is basically what's happened in this thread:


Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
YC: I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
Other people: Look at me, I'm making a snarky comment.
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.

There are so many things you could be doing with your free time besides proxying and writing reviews. I said it before and will say it again, nobody gives a s*** that you're butthurt and want to cry about it for seven pages holy s***. Just uninstall the server and look for a new one to play if you hate whatever so much. I never understood why people are starting huge flame wars over something that really is so minute, if it pisses you off don't partake in it. I agree the virus thing should be made known to current players but ffs if some non-english-speaking twat doesn't want to leave the review up she's not going to, going on about it for pages and pages isn't going to convince her to suddenly be a good admin. we all know how poorly moderated this place is. hell I've only been here what, five or six separate times and I see that.

so now I'll take my own advice and remove myself from this forum, I came here because I was told it was interesting and worth a look but really it's just a bunch of pricks crying about a videogame.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 04:03 am by Chexmix »
no longer posting here

Offline Symbiote

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #98 on: Apr 08, 2009, 04:19 am »
Well, I read the first page... and skimmed through the second... and saw no reason to continue reading. This is basically what's happened in this thread:

Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
YC: I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
Other people: Look at me, I'm making a snarky comment.
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.

There are so many things you could be doing with your free time besides proxying and writing reviews. I said it before and will say it again, nobody gives a s*** that you're butthurt and want to cry about it for seven pages holy s***. Just uninstall the server and look for a new one to play if you hate whatever so much. I never understood why people are starting huge flame wars over something that really is so minute, if it pisses you off don't partake in it. I agree the virus thing should be made known to current players but ffs if some non-english-speaking twat doesn't want to leave the review up she's not going to, going on about it for pages and pages isn't going to convince her to suddenly be a good admin. we all know how poorly moderated this place is. hell I've only been here what, five or six separate times and I see that.

so now I'll take my own advice and remove myself from this forum, I came here because I was told it was interesting and worth a look but really it's just a bunch of pricks crying about a videogame.

Quoted for laughs and blatant idiocy.

And now what?

Now, we wait on yC.

[Šŷmβĭö†ė] - "There is nothing in this world to believe in."

Descent

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Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #99 on: Apr 08, 2009, 07:23 am »
Well, I read the first page... and skimmed through the second... and saw no reason to continue reading. This is basically what's happened in this thread:


Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
YC: I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.
Other people: Look at me, I'm making a snarky comment.
Symbiote: BAWWWWWWWWWWW.

There are so many things you could be doing with your free time besides proxying and writing reviews. I said it before and will say it again, nobody gives a s*** that you're butthurt and want to cry about it for seven pages holy s***. Just uninstall the server and look for a new one to play if you hate whatever so much. I never understood why people are starting huge flame wars over something that really is so minute, if it pisses you off don't partake in it. I agree the virus thing should be made known to current players but ffs if some non-english-speaking twat doesn't want to leave the review up she's not going to, going on about it for pages and pages isn't going to convince her to suddenly be a good admin. we all know how poorly moderated this place is. hell I've only been here what, five or six separate times and I see that.

so now I'll take my own advice and remove myself from this forum, I came here because I was told it was interesting and worth a look but really it's just a bunch of pricks crying about a videogame.

Good, nobody needs a hypocritical bigot like you around anyway.

Come to think of it, I don't think anybody liked you to begin with. Good f*cking riddance, you tool.

yC: Melchior's(Rudolph Zyaber/Phayne) review is STILL there. THIS is what Symbiote is getting at with the "corruption" part. You're now allowing reviews that break guidelines to spite him while continuing an argument over his, which breaks none. This is why he's calling you corrupt, and this is why you're losing credibility.

I understand you're stubborn, but keep it up and pretty soon 3Jane will be helping you dig that grave, since it isn't deep enough for you, yet.

P.S: It also looks like, from the eyes of a random observer, that you're covering it up for Essence. Please don't let yourself look like that.
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 07:26 am by Descent »

Offline Loki

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #100 on: Apr 08, 2009, 08:13 am »
@Symbiote

Oh just go make another review that doesn't change what you're trying to point out.

@yC
You see a Big-Foot sitting on a stool and sipping tea in front of you but you fail to take a picture of it.

Oh pooi.
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Whatever floats your boat.

Offline Symbiote

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #101 on: Apr 08, 2009, 08:41 am »
@Symbiote

Oh just go make another review that doesn't change what you're trying to point out.

'Course not. Wouldn't do that, that'd go against my entire original review. But now there's no argument about whether or not my review touches on my ratings. ;p
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 08:43 am by Symbiote »

[Šŷmβĭö†ė] - "There is nothing in this world to believe in."

Offline Scars

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #102 on: Apr 08, 2009, 10:44 am »
And now what?

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Now, we wait on yC.


Yah that was for yC xD
« Last Edit: Apr 08, 2009, 10:49 am by Scars »

Offline yC

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #103 on: Apr 08, 2009, 11:25 am »
@Symbiote

Your main account, use name 'Symbiote' has been removed from the server specific review block list.  You may, post the new review as you wish.  The site's review char limit is now increased to 500 chars (let me know if you experience any error).  There shouldn't be a problem with your new review, as you indicated your opinion on various element of the server.

@Loki

It's not that I am not willing to act on it.  Since when off-topic material is encouraged?  Okay, after a page of going on with Symbiote about creating the new topic on it.  I will split the post into a new topic:

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/index.php/topic,9172.0.html

and continue from there.

Offline Symbiote

Re: EssenceRO & RMS Dispute
« Reply #104 on: Apr 08, 2009, 11:52 am »
@Symbiote

Your main account, use name 'Symbiote' has been removed from the server specific review block list.  You may, post the new review as you wish.  The site's review char limit is now increased to 500 chars (let me know if you experience any error).  There shouldn't be a problem with your new review, as you indicated your opinion on various element of the server.

Appears to have worked fine.

[Šŷmβĭö†ė] - "There is nothing in this world to believe in."