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Offline MetallicMonkey

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #15 on: Jun 15, 2017, 08:37 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion, I will consider it. Since the 2 and 4 slots are mainly for PvP, I can probably just separate this system for specific PvP maps.

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Offline Lushi

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #16 on: Jun 16, 2017, 01:09 AM »
What do you mean by separating it for PvP maps? I don't think segregating a server that you're trying to grow wouldn't be a great idea just so that you could just keep the 2 and 4 slot equips. I think personally in my opinion that people would like to just see the standard single slot system in place with just competitive PvP/WoE which would attract a lot of players. Like Kris has said there's a lot of players that enjoy the MR w/HR features or simply just having a HR server where people can instantly get in the action that's your key right there to a start of a successful server. 
« Last Edit: Jun 16, 2017, 05:02 PM by Lushi »

Offline Kaleidoscope

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 16, 2017, 02:45 AM »
What do you mean by separating it for PvP maps? I don't think you just segregating a server that you're trying to grow wouldn't make sense so that you could just keep the 2 and 4 slot equips. I think personally in my opinion that people would like to just see the standard single slot system in place with just competitive PvP/WoE which would attract a lot of players. Like Kris has said there's a lot of players that enjoy the MR w/HR features or simply just having a HR server where people can instantly get in the action that's your key right there.

Those types of servers are all over the place. This style of pvp and game play is not for everyone and is definetly more work to balance, but it has been done. I've seen a lot of hate towards it with out reasoning. "I think 1 slot is better"...why do you think it better. Please don't tell me "EVERYONE like that way", because that is not entirely true. Give me supporting evidence on why this system has not worked in the past and proactively think of ways to improve upon these errors. The whole idea is to create something fresh and new with some reminiscing of 2009-2012 style SHR server.

Offline MetallicMonkey

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 16, 2017, 02:59 AM »
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What do you mean by separating it for PvP maps? I don't think you just segregating a server that you're trying to grow wouldn't make sense so that you could just keep the 2 and 4 slot equips. I think personally in my opinion that people would like to just see the standard single slot system in place with just competitive PvP/WoE which would attract a lot of players. Like Kris has said there's a lot of players that enjoy the MR w/HR features or simply just having a HR server where people can instantly get in the action that's your key right there.

Yeah, I think I know what you mean by MR w/ HR features. If it's similar to NamelessRO, I've played that for a couple of years myself.

I mean a separate system for PvP with 4 slots and regular 1 slots in the same server. I don't plan on sharing all my original ideas, I'll leave it at that.

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Those types of servers are all over the place. This style of pvp and game play is not for everyone and is definetly more work to balance, but it has been done. I've seen a lot of hate towards it with out reasoning. "I think 1 slot is better"...why do you think it better. Please don't tell me "EVERYONE like that way", because that is not entirely true. Give me supporting evidence on why this system has not worked in the past and proactively think of ways to improve upon these errors. The whole idea is to create something fresh and new with some reminiscing of 2009-2012 style SHR server.

Yes, that's what I had in mind.

Offline Lushi

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #19 on: Jun 16, 2017, 05:10 PM »
Yes, NamelessRO is a great example as I've also played there myself for years. NON-NL and NL-PVP worked but you would see way more people participate in NON-NL which as you know was strictly single slot items. Seeing 4 users already  post in this thread requesting for no multiple slot items should be a hint also but its all personal choice. I've always seen multiple item servers die out quick or just get stale.

Offline Kaleidoscope

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #20 on: Jun 16, 2017, 07:30 PM »
4 users is not a statistic you can Count on. Plus it is personal preference, people will join your server if word of mouth gets out that it's enjoyable/ stable/ friendly/ balanced. I think with how stale RO has become in general ( especially for older generation players) that change and new innovations are exciting! On a developers side: it's just as exciting creating a unique atmosphere for players. Nameless RO was an amazing server, I think I remember just about everything from it. Does anyone know who the founder or developer was?

Offline MetallicMonkey

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #21 on: Jun 16, 2017, 07:34 PM »
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Yes, NamelessRO is a great example as I've also played there myself for years. NON-NL and NL-PVP worked but you would see way more people participate in NON-NL which as you know was strictly single slot items. Seeing 4 users already  post in this thread requesting for no multiple slot items should be a hint also but its all personal choice. I've always seen multiple item servers die out quick or just get stale.

Yeah, I know what you mean. From my past experience, these type of servers do die out quite easily. I have some original idea myself, which is why I'm probably a little more confident than most.

More than anything, it's also just a preference. Many people who have strictly played with single slots probably do not know how to play with 4 slots and vice versa. That is probably where the strong sense of disapproval is coming from. The number of those who disproves doesn't really mean anything without a solid reason.

Offline Lushi

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #22 on: Jun 16, 2017, 09:35 PM »
The owner of NamelessRO was gurKen and if you were to replicate nlRO PvP or itself in general into the potential server that you're making then that would be awesome. I agree that it is a personal preference on the usage of multi-slotted and single slotted gears but I think you'll see majority side in favor of single slotted. I personally think there would be more players that have experience with single slotted and multi-slotted gear players wouldn't be at a disadvantage playing at single slots. If you're trying to cater to the larger audience which I believe are single slotted users then I think you would get better attraction then trying to aim for the niche number of players that enjoy multi-slotted gear but hey I could be wrong but that’s what I truly believe in.

Offline Kris

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #23 on: Jun 16, 2017, 09:39 PM »
Instead of adding custom godly gear, y'all should keep it as close to MR gear as possible (proxy / dboots [1]) as a luxury and have stuff like double damage, invisibility and haste runes like in this vid
https://youtu.be/iOJw7oQRqbs
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Offline MetallicMonkey

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #24 on: Jun 17, 2017, 03:34 AM »
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I agree that it is a personal preference on the usage of multi-slotted and single slotted gears but I think you'll see majority side in favor of single slotted. I personally think there would be more players that have experience with single slotted and multi-slotted gear players wouldn't be at a disadvantage playing at single slots. If you're trying to cater to the larger audience which I believe are single slotted users then I think you would get better attraction then trying to aim for the niche number of players that enjoy multi-slotted gear but hey I could be wrong but that’s what I truly believe in.

Yes, that's probably true. However, I have a plan that may be able to cater to both systems.

To be honest, I've completely grown out of gaming due to what I've accomplished in life. I, like many of you, have other priorities in life. I wish someone could swing by and take these ideas and implement them for us so that we could play for a short period of time again.  /heh

Edit: It just so happens that I'm capable of doing it myself because I've become a developer since the last decade.

Offline Kris

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #25 on: Jun 17, 2017, 03:07 PM »
so we gon pretend like nobody noticed mans saying he's completely grown out of gaming due to what he's accomplished in life
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Offline MetallicMonkey

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #26 on: Jun 17, 2017, 07:23 PM »
I can probably spin up a RO server pretty quickly (although initially it will not be a great one) and I thought it would be sort of fun to do so. I'm just deciding if it would be worth my time at the moment. In other words, I'm wondering what else I can get out of this project. Unfortunately, I can't and don't even want to write this on my resume.

When I say I've grown out of it, I mean I haven't played games in a very long time and I don't have as much time to spend doing these kind of things. This still doesn't mean that I can't create and manage a server.

Anyways, I'm done here since no one is providing anymore constructive feedback.
« Last Edit: Jun 17, 2017, 07:34 PM by MetallicMonkey »

Offline scrollLock

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #27 on: Jun 29, 2017, 03:49 PM »
Back in 2007, there was a HR server called LaoRO and then it created an SHR server (750/120) with most items bought at mall, MVP rooms (PK enabled) with ALL of the MVP's in it (no modification to hp or stats), 100% drop rate.

There were a lot of custom items with wings, giving +100, +200 and +250 to all stats (and some without + to luk).

Huge gold room where skills were enabled, easy to farm money. 4 slot items (2 slot shields). Had also a quest for obtaining EDP card (accessory)

Basically it was for fun server, no need to grind, no need to hunt (except for EDP card quest). Lot of duels going on and it was really active server.

I believe it reached 500+ players when at peak.

Some screenshots, too bad i dont have the gold room or mvp room screenshots.






Offline Godlikex

Re: Who would like to see a high rate pure PvP server?
« Reply #28 on: Jun 30, 2017, 02:35 PM »
You should try divine-gaming.com  /no1
This server is a good alternative  /ok, only is it a 500/120 with less OP stat effectss but still a good pvp server with all these things your previous server had  /heh