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Title: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 01:40 AM
beware of yrvine servers he still doin his old trick on every server
making you believe its populated server to make you play
he still denies his identity while it's pretty obvious

he runs these server now zenRO and vaneRO, mark my word zenRO will close soon since he has vaneRO now

previous servers : onceRO zenRO caseRO etc
i rly think he's doing this gimik for living
run a server, get donates, close it after 3mos , repeat
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: pr3zs on May 08, 2018, 02:00 AM
servers these days are trying to show off they have players but real thing they only have afks and vendors.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 08, 2018, 03:55 AM
Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 01:40 AM
beware of yrvine servers he still doin his old trick on every server
making you believe its populated server to make you play
he still denies his identity while it's pretty obvious

he runs these server now zenRO and vaneRO, mark my word zenRO will close soon since he has vaneRO now

previous servers : onceRO zenRO caseRO etc
i rly think he's doing this gimik for living
run a server, get donates, close it after 3mos , repeat

No! Do not beware!

I just dont understand this dumb thing that so many people just rely on NUMBERS!
They are just NUMBERS!
What does NUMBERS say about the quality of a server?

Low population servers can have awesome features and vise versa!
Also high population servers can have awesome features and vise versa!
So what is the point relying on numbers? Its stupid!

Ragnarok Online is dying more and more every year!
No Ragnarok fan wants that this happens and there are still some really outstanding servers.
Renewal and pre-renewal.

VaneRO is one example.
I play RO since 2004 on official server and i was already on so many pservers.
And VaneRO is one of the best pre-renewal servers i have ever played!

Why?
I can tell you why.

First, i do NOT rely on stupid numbers!
Second, VanRO has so many and so great features which makes playing RO pre-renewal soooo much better and easier for a busy and full time working guy like me and many others.
The Admin is very active and i already chatted with him so many hours and he is soooo nice and responsive compared to other admins on other servers.
Also my guild members chatted with the admin and he is friendly to everyone and he takes suggestions and feedback from the community which is awesome.
Third, the Admin is always adding continously new content and makes the game better and more balancing than any other pre-re Server out there.
And last but not least, this server never had never a single down time and i play there since launch.

Maybe it is the admin from those servers you talk about or maybe not.
So what now and whats your problem?
The server is awesome and the person which it belongs to is so friendly and responsive!
And also... you do NOT need to donate!!!
Nobody is saying to you that you should throw your money at the Admins face. Nobody!
You can play on VaneRO without donating so why do you bother if other players donate and support this great server?
Keeping up a server is not for free!

Damn... be happy that you can play on that server without spending money.
I really do not get your problem.
Because of people like you, great servers in Ragnarok Online are dying and also RO in general is dying more and more.

I hope some day, you can change your mind to a more neutral one than now.

So please... everyone who still didnt try VaneRO... please try it.
If you like pre-re and upcoming great updates, give it a try. :)

You are all welcome. <3
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Yuzo on May 08, 2018, 06:48 AM
hopefully kris can try this server and confirm. cos he knows the npc template of Yrvine.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 07:14 AM
kris and i played a lot of yrvines server
im pretty sure this one is his.
and yea im familliar w/ his NPCs too
@holy s***

lol friendly? he's doin the same again
AFK on maintown24/7 w/ PUB "review us on RMS" or "server is growing" or "like and share event on facebook"
he's not a responsive GM what are u talkin about lol.
ive been in his 5-6 servers alrdy. i wish RMS wud ban his IP and mac in this site so he cant post his servers in RMS again
 
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 08, 2018, 07:43 AM
Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 07:14 AM
kris and i played a lot of yrvines server
im pretty sure this one is his.
and yea im familliar w/ his NPCs too
@holy s***

lol friendly? he's doin the same again
AFK on maintown24/7 w/ PUB "review us on RMS" or "server is growing" or "like and share event on facebook"
he's not a responsive GM what are u talkin about lol.
ive been in his 5-6 servers alrdy. i wish RMS wud ban his IP and mac in this site so he cant post his servers in RMS again

If you act like in your reviews and in your posts here i really dont wonder that you got ignored from him.

But yes, he also answers on e-mails in less than 24 hours.
And im not the only one who mails him.
Other people from my guild also did and wrote him ingame.
He always wrote back when he was online.

Anywas... what is your problem???
If you dont like the server just go... nobody needs you there then.
If you like being on the server because of its great features then stay.

I dont get you... really.
You just want to harm a really good server because of stupid numbers and because it seems you didnt get attention from the GM because of your unfriendly behavior.

Irvyne or not... he is very nice and friendly.
The server IS an awesome pre-re server with great features and balancing.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 08:12 AM
good server? lol ppl aint stupid to know what is fake or not.
who is corrupt and not
am i the one who flaming? go post ur own topic then.
im here to warn ppl on a corrupt gm and a fake populated server.
great features? its just a replica on his previous servers lol
trust me u will say  " i shud have listened to God Fujin"
after three months mark my words  /no1  /no1


Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Emcee on May 08, 2018, 09:23 AM
This is obviously a typical person who got banned and raging at that server he got banned on.
Youre not making any point tho, ur problem is this admin dying server fast but you said ZenRO is also his server? But ZenRO is online still and been online for 9 months! I remember that OnceRO was 1 year and a half years old. So ur not making any point if the problem is admin closing server fast because clearly it is not the case on his past pr current servers. Whats new? RO comes and go and its what its like. Youre just raging cause you got banned. I tried this server out and holyfist is making a good point that it is a good server to play on. I recently played cgro which died fast and admin didnt show up. What is the difference? Accept the fact that RO is like that. This VaneRO is good enough to play same admin or not. Just enjoy any servers while they last. Amen.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 09:57 AM
lol yrvine i know thats u stop making rms accts just to reply and defend your server :) ur just salty coz ur server got deleted here
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 08, 2018, 10:40 AM
Quote from: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 09:57 AM
lol yrvine i know thats u stop making rms accts just to reply and defend your server :) ur just salty coz ur server got deleted here

Now you are really joking right?
So in your mind, everyone is Irvyne who loves this server?
So i am Irvyne too right?
You are kidding me...

Sorry but... just stop making servers bad only because of numbers and because you got banned there as it seems...

Be more nice to people and use better communication words and you will get nice answers back from everyone.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 08, 2018, 11:11 AM
LOL dont be mad. its my topic. make ur own topic against me if u want i wont care :) ur rly obvious
im just here to tell the truth and to warn ppl to avoid yrvine's server
im being nice to them. im a concern RO fan
#makeROgreatagain
#DestroyYrvine
#NoToCorruptGMs
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: BestPlayerEver on May 08, 2018, 03:24 PM
I don’t even wanna try reading Holy Fist and Emcee’s posts. They’re both clearly mentally challenged individuals. Fujin is borderline as well but he makes a valid point this time.

It’s already known that servers of Yrvine have a fake population. I’ve borrowed a friends account on ZenRO to PvP and it’s constantly 400+ players but PvP and towns are completely vacant. If Prontera is dead with 400 players shown online, it’s obviously a hoax.

I really don’t know if Emcee/Holy Fist are retarded and actually believe these servers population counts are legit, or they’re both Yrvine followers...then again, both make them retarded.

It the end, it doesn’t really matter if VaneRO is Yrvine’s server. People will still play on it and b**** about Yrvine once it dies again.

I mean ffs, Fujin, you just said you played on 5-6 of Yrvines previous servers.

????
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Herpderp on May 08, 2018, 04:38 PM
People enjoy getting cucked by GMs like Yrvine, but they think being "self-aware" about getting cucked somehow makes them look less pathetic.  /heh
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Satos on May 08, 2018, 11:12 PM
Can you explain what the issue is with Yrvine?  I don't even really know who he is.
I've seen enough of these to know he's a server owner that has servers die after awhile.  Some quicker than others...

But I honestly haven't gotten any backstory as to why people are so upset at him.

And as for all the threads saying "this server is going to die" and people logging into RO to spam Main Chat (which VaneRO doesn't have a Main Chat, I noticed) telling everyone the server is going to be dead in 2 weeks....it's not helping ANY RO server.

I was just talking to my wife about this very thing yesterday.

Nobody stays on one server anymore.  And servers cost money to upkeep.
So if a population dwindles, and people aren't donating, then the server owner has to close up.

If I run a business, I have a threshold that I have to say, "We can operate as long as we make more than $XXX.xx/month."
If I have a bunch of people that enjoy my business, and pay for my services regularly, I can keep operating.
At some point, it doesn't matter if I want to continue running my business or not....if I am not meeting the bare minimum income to keep my bills paid; I'm going to have to close up.

Where I'm going with this is...for some people, they've talked about a prepaid server for a year in advance, to guarantee the costs are met; and there is a sense of security for the community.  Hoping that they can prevent the population dwindle that happens.

For other people, Ragnarok servers ARE their source of income.  So their minimum income threshold is going to be larger, because they are trying to fund their own life off of the server income.

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If you have a problem with THAT, then just say so.
Say "So and so lives off of the small business he has made running Ragnarok servers, and I don't agree with that.  It's more expensive for the RO player base, and causes a shorter lifespan for his servers, because they close up more frequently.  And I think more people get duped into paying for the exact same pay-to-win items on EVERY new server he launches.  And I've bought that stupid I Love China Hat for $15, eight times now, and I just want everyone to know it's a never ending plot to get money, because the server owner is trying to make a living off of his servers!"

But all I ever hear is "He's evil!" "He's just taking your money."  "He doesn't care." or "It's a plot!"
I guarantee you he cares about his small business.
If he wants to try and make a living off of a viable small business, then that's his choice.

I run a lawn mowing service.  I care about my business.  If I have upset customers, I'd prefer to make it satisfactory, instead of them running around behind me telling all my current clients that I am an evil person, and will just take their money, and not care about the quality of my service.
That hurts my livelihood.  And believe me, I've had some very rude people do that before.
I lost my largest client because some lady that worked there complained EVERY week about something.
She then convinced the company that the guy that mows her lawn is much better, so they hired him.
The lawn looks EXACTLY the same.  She just had a problem with MY business because her guy wasn't the one doing it.
That ended up costing me a $16,000 contract at the end of that year.

I'm not trying to defend the guy.  I'm just trying to let you know that you are contributing to the problem.
The more you try to spread the word that the server is going to die....the more people that don't know anything about the past situations are going to believe you.
And then they stop playing, to try and find a more stable server.
And a server that could potentially last for a year and a half, dies in 6 months.  And the business owner has to start a new one, to try to bring people back.

You are more of a problem, by spreading slander like this, than the server owner is by having to close a server because he cannot meet his income threshold.

My 2 cents, sir.

My advice for you.  Get a life outside of Ragnarok .  You and several others seem to have made it your life's duty to harass this guy out of every business he's tried to create.  Find something that makes you happy.  Because it obviously isn't Ragnarok.
Let the people that enjoy his services, enjoy them in peace.


And just because someone will accuse me, or ask; yes I have played on a few of the servers you've listed as being his.
Have I donated?  Yes, about $10 each time.
Do I like that the servers close?  Nope, I think it sucks also.  And I feel like it's a waste of money.
Do I keep going back?  Yep, because I DO like his setup he's got going.  And his prices for some of the basic paid items are cheaper than other servers.
Do I think the population numbers are faked?  Starting out, no.  Later....perhaps/probably.
Am I a fanboy of his?  Absolutely not.  I'm just not anti-him either.
Do I think Ragnarok as a whole would be more stable if people didn't try to ddos/spam chat/spread slander?  Yep.

But I think what we have is 50 server owners trying to compete for 5-7 good stable servers of Ragnarok business.
So we see a lot of fighting over populations and money.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: veear on May 09, 2018, 05:29 AM
Quote from: Satos on May 08, 2018, 11:12 PM
Can you explain what the issue is with Yrvine?  I don't even really know who he is.
I've seen enough of these to know he's a server owner that has servers die after awhile.  Some quicker than others...
Literally the first guy in the gm hall of shame list  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 09, 2018, 08:49 AM
Quote from: veear on May 09, 2018, 05:29 AM
Literally the first guy in the gm hall of shame list  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

BUT WHY?
Do YOU guys even read what Satos posted?

And Satos, great post, really great post!  /no1

I still play on VaneRO and i still got daily messaging with the Admin and he is very responsive and friendly.
I dont get the negativity...

Everyone should try VaneRO out who loves pre-re and i stay with all my before opinions and wall of textes i wrote in this thread about VaneRO.
I love this server and its the perfect pre-re experience.
So what is the problem?
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: RagnaWar on May 09, 2018, 11:49 AM
Played on the server since day one and dropped out as soon as I saw items being made that were impossible to farm in such a short span of time.

People randomly donating hundreds of dollars which made absolutely no sense but would AFK in town and then show up in PVP fully geared.

The server wasn't so bad; its just the GM was stupid enough to fake such population numbers and to try and trick people into donating when he should let the server and its progress do all the talking. VaneRO doesn't have a forum and control panel for specific reasons... Nobody wants to get caught red handed.

I'm not going to say anybody who defends VaneRO is Yrvine but its a terrible server that everyone should steer clear from. :)
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 09, 2018, 12:51 PM
Quote from: RagnaWar on May 09, 2018, 11:49 AM
Played on the server since day one and dropped out as soon as I saw items being made that were impossible to farm in such a short span of time.

People randomly donating hundreds of dollars which made absolutely no sense but would AFK in town and then show up in PVP fully geared.

The server wasn't so bad; its just the GM was stupid enough to fake such population numbers and to try and trick people into donating when he should let the server and its progress do all the talking. VaneRO doesn't have a forum and control panel for specific reasons... Nobody wants to get caught red handed.

I'm not going to say anybody who defends VaneRO is Yrvine but its a terrible server that everyone should steer clear from. :)

Sad to hear that you left because of those reasons. :(
Let me tell you some of the things you wrote. Please do not take it as a offense because i doesnt mean it that way.
But maybe you will come back. :)

First of all i am also a player who is on VaneRO since day 1.

Which items do you mean?
Diablos Rings? They are really easy to farm just look on YouTube.
Orleans Gloves? Fast to farm as a champ.
Diablos Gear? At a 50x rate server everyone is leveling up fast and if you have a few people, you do not even need a full party, you can kill SM pretty easy.
So only because you experience this stuff very, very hard, for other people who know all these mechanics it is easy to farm these stuff even with not so high equipment.

About the PvP gear and full equip.
As i already said, it is a 50x rate server with stuff like Exp Books and Bubble Gums.
So you can gear up PRETTY fast.
And when you ask my experience... as i was playing BG noone of the 5 other players got even a thara card as it seemed because they took a lot of damage!

About the population...
Its just numbers so what?
If the server is great and you have fun playing RO again, why look on numbers?

And last but not least about the donations.
The Admin NEVER ever forced anyone to donate!
You do not even need to donate because you can get these donations coins easily and fast through MvPing, BGing and throug events.
So there are no single tricks from the Admin. Not a single one.

Maybe you change your mind and you come back. :)
And as i said, this is no offense against you.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Fujin021 on May 09, 2018, 03:46 PM
LOL stop defending that trash server @holy s***
noone wants to play on a server w/ unprofessional GM
whatever u say . faking population to trick ppl is still disgusting
 
example:
you met a girl and had her heart
you thought she's the woman of ur dreams
then suddenly u knew she got balls too

what wud feel?

and im here to warn ppl (even if its obvsly fake)
im helping ppl im helping RO in general
by telling them about yrvine servers
also a victim here
#makeROgreatagain
#YrvineFakePopulationExpert
#NoToTrickingPpl
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: RagnaWar on May 09, 2018, 08:15 PM
You're cute.

I am the first person to farm WM so I don't know why you're giving out all these stupid reasons. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAID "ITEMS ARE BEING MADE." SMH. I got my OG's immediately by luring byorgue to thor_v01 entrance. I got my Drings ASAP by trading with a friend taekwon an OG while farming for my DMant. I got my Dset after my 2nd attempt thanks to the 20% nerf. @[email protected] Ask anyone who farmed it first and you'll know who I am. That way you know this review isn't fake.

Population isn't just a number. I'm not gonna argue like a kid to someone who obviously is rebutting every single response on this thread for a specific reasons.

Thank you for the invitation back but I will not be returning. I actually had my finger on the trigger on day two to donate $200.00 but then the fishy signs flagged me to hold off. Thank God I followed my instinct. Good luck with the server. :)
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Holy Fist on May 10, 2018, 06:18 AM
Quote from: RagnaWar on May 09, 2018, 08:15 PM
You're cute.

I am the first person to farm WM so I don't know why you're giving out all these stupid reasons. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAID "ITEMS ARE BEING MADE." SMH. I got my OG's immediately by luring byorgue to thor_v01 entrance. I got my Drings ASAP by trading with a friend taekwon an OG while farming for my DMant. I got my Dset after my 2nd attempt thanks to the 20% nerf. @[email protected] Ask anyone who farmed it first and you'll know who I am. That way you know this review isn't fake.

Population isn't just a number. I'm not gonna argue like a kid to someone who obviously is rebutting every single response on this thread for a specific reasons.

Thank you for the invitation back but I will not be returning. I actually had my finger on the trigger on day two to donate $200.00 but then the fishy signs flagged me to hold off. Thank God I followed my instinct. Good luck with the server. :)

Do you have ANY proof that items were made from the Admin/GM?
Any Screenshot or something?
And do you know what happened after the creation of the item?

I hope you know that Admins/GM's sometimes do testing with specific items but after that they remove it again.
Sometimes because of server stability or sometimes because of balancing.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: RagnaWar on May 10, 2018, 10:22 AM
Quote from: Holy Fist on May 10, 2018, 06:18 AM
Do you have ANY proof that items were made from the Admin/GM?
Any Screenshot or something?
And do you know what happened after the creation of the item?

I hope you know that Admins/GM's sometimes do testing with specific items but after that they remove it again.
Sometimes because of server stability or sometimes because of balancing.

Oh, so your tone of voice and focal point change when I'm starting to hit heartstrings?

I don't need to show any proof whatsoever because the population count speaks for itself. Besides, as you can see in your own reply, you are more than prepared to defend whatever anyone would post even trying to post back-end answers before anyone says anything. It's more than obvious you are related to the server in some way.

If I were to say or show you a screenshot of illegal items, you would merely say well he was testing things and removed it. So, I'll show chat logs amongst my colleagues instead that are dated back when we saw the items:

(http://i66.tinypic.com/14lhapv.png)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2gu047r.png)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2q35e0i.png)
First recorded kill by any guild was 04/27/18 as everyone talked in town due to small population. Everyone at some point was friends cause what else can such a small community of 30+ active people do? You mean to tell me, in a span of 3 days, suddenly someone got geared enough and farmed WM several times to create a +3 dex DRobe? WITH THE 20% DROP NERF AND NORMAL SPAWN TIME? Hmmm...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/xbk1gl.png)
The server opened on 04/21/18 and you're telling me with a droprate of 0.10% on a slotted ice pick and 20% on Diablos Armor parts that people farmed those items that quickly? Even the BR's and RUSkies bounced upon seeing the shady stuff. Sure the ice pick[1], maybe by luck giving you the benefit of the doubt but the DRobe? Lol, people were begging me to help them farm it asap and you want to tell me someone randomly snuck in and killed WM many times when I leech there and nobody had access to moc_fild22 except for my 1 friend? LOL

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2q83qbs.png)
First recorded kill with no drops to show what the nerf is like without BBG.

So what else do you want to defend? Everyone here is beating a dead horse. @[email protected] It's pathetic. People already left, what else are you trying to defend? The already tainted server name? LMAO
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: blink32 on May 10, 2018, 10:58 AM
none of his servers have control panels and forums, both usually accessible by literally every other server.

why might someone disabled these? because only those 2 features would really show how many active players there are.
unless yvrine will ever establish those, it is safe to assume his ridiculous population to be fake (which goes back onto the original topic), which of course you fools who are defending cant refute.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Bottles on May 11, 2018, 02:27 AM
I agree with anyone who is actively avoiding that server, it's a drowning pool.

However, dex3 drobes and slotting icepicks doesn't take months. Much like everything in RO, it takes luck. 1 drobe = 1drobe dex3, there isn't some magic threshold where the RO gods to decide to be like "well since you've done so much, we'll let you have it dex3".

Again, avoid VaneRO it's an awful place nonetheless.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: RagnaWar on May 11, 2018, 11:05 AM
Quote from: Bottles on May 11, 2018, 02:27 AM
I agree with anyone who is actively avoiding that server, it's a drowning pool.

However, dex3 drobes and slotting icepicks doesn't take months. Much like everything in RO, it takes luck. 1 drobe = 1drobe dex3, there isn't some magic threshold where the RO gods to decide to be like "well since you've done so much, we'll let you have it dex3".

Again, avoid VaneRO it's an awful place nonetheless.

True. I'm sure you understand it was to a certain extent exaggerated. BUT, with that being said, it's a chance game and looking at the timeline and timespan they had to accomplish the said feat', it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY unless the GM's were involved. Say they had perfect timing, they would've been able to kill WM 6 times. With a 20% drop rate or 40% with bbg, they might've not even got 6. Their chances dwindle down even more with the chance to enchant and even for the armor/robe being enchanted to break. IP[1] is obtainable from RSX, LOD and SINX MVP. Unless they bio3'd, again its highly unlikely since the drop rate on RSX and LOD is 0.10% or 0.20% with bbg.

You can't doubt that it was more than possible when the GM is already faking population count.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Satos on May 11, 2018, 07:56 PM
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Thank you.  This is the kind of evidence and explanation people need, to understand what is wrong with a server.
I will be avoiding this server.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Herpderp on May 22, 2018, 06:30 AM
Funny how Holy Shill mysteriously disappeared.  /heh
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Skeec on Jul 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
Next one is VerseRO (verse-ro.com)

I have a pretty resilient check for yrvine server haha this guy always uses the same server software  /sob
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: blink32 on Jul 19, 2018, 10:25 AM
Nope its back to Zen-RO "rebirth", at least verseRO has a forums so you know its not yvrine.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Kram.24k on Jul 21, 2018, 06:21 AM
All I can say is that...

"it is easy to give a bad reputation and a negative feedback to someone or something"

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Please stop this non-sense Topic and start grinding for your Equipment and Zenny.
Title: Re: VaneRO fake population
Post by: Switch on Aug 24, 2018, 06:25 PM
So I just read this thread and in my opinion and to be perfectly honest, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view also by looking into this matter in a different perspective without being too condemning of one's opinion and view. Considering each and everyone's valid and unbiased input, I  strongly believe I don't know what I'm doing here.

(http://thumbpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/I-Have-No-Idea-What-Im-Doing-8.jpg)