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Offline Plague

The perfect Servers.
« on: Apr 14, 2008, 06:39 am »
   Ok, I am going to write a list of do's and dont's for what I think the perfect LR, MR, HR, and SHR servers should include and not include.


LRS

Dont's

-Job Changer
-Baby Job Changer
-Stat Resetter
-Shopping Mall
-Buffer
-Goldroom
-100% Refine Rates
-Customs(Unless obtained from long quests)
-PK
-No Heal PvP
-MVP Room
-Donation Items

Do's

-Job Quests
-0.01 - 0.25% Card Drops
-Training Grounds
-Warper(If Theres a healer)
-Healer(If theres a warper)
-Headgear Quests
-Daily Events for Normal gears/Headgears
-Show gained exp
-Basic Commands(and autoloot)



MRS

Dont's

-Shopping Mall
-goldroom
-buffer
-100% refine rates
-PK
-Stat resetter
-Some customs
-Baby Job Changer
-MVP Room
-Donation Items


Do's

-Healer
-Warper
-Some customs(quests)
-Job Changer
-Training Grounds
-0.10% - 1.00% Card Drop Rates
-Show gained exp
-Basic commands(and Autoloot)


HRS

Dont's

-100% refine rates
-Training Grounds
-Low drop rates
-Donation Items
-heal PvP
-Some quests

Do's

-Job Changer
-Baby Job Changer
-Goldroom
-Shopping mall
-Customs
-Healer
-Buffer
-MvP Room
-Stat Reset
-PK


SHRS

Dont's

-There really is no dont's except not to do anything retarted.

Do's

-Job Changer
-Baby Job Changer
-Goldroom
-Shopping mall
-Customs
-Healer
-Buffer
-MvP Room
-Stat Reset
-PK
-100% refine rates
-In town weapon repair



P.S: In a SHRS, If you can max level in 30 minutes or less, put a 1 click leveler. There is no point in leveling if its waaay to easy. But basically super high rate is whatever you want to do with it to me. Just don't NPC spam.


Well thats just a quick opinionated do and don't list for different server ratings. Also remember this is in my opinion so feel free to say what you would and wouldn't do as well.  8)
« Last Edit: Apr 14, 2008, 06:42 am by Ezekiel »
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The perfect Servers.
« on: Apr 14, 2008, 06:39 am »

Offline bulbasteve

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #1 on: Apr 14, 2008, 10:27 am »
Seriously, I just do not get it. Why in the hell does everyone think that the lower the rates the more of a kro clone a server should be? Rates only have to do with the speed of leveling, that is all.

Offline MrrgleCaek

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #2 on: Apr 14, 2008, 10:55 am »
Seriously, I just do not get it. Why in the hell does everyone think that the lower the rates the more of a kro clone a server should be? Rates only have to do with the speed of leveling, that is all.
Players are right wing? They like no change, and when they do they feel stupid and too stubborn to adopt and learn new traits =x...

Offline weeaboo

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #3 on: Apr 14, 2008, 11:08 am »
There is no "perfect" server from any objective viewpoint. Only opinions.

Also, a "kRO clone" experience only makes sense at 5x rates and below, at most.

Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #4 on: Apr 14, 2008, 12:14 pm »
Seriously, I just do not get it. Why in the hell does everyone think that the lower the rates the more of a kro clone a server should be?

Because people want to play RO?

Quote from: weeaboo
There is no "perfect" server from any objective viewpoint. Only opinions.
Quote from: Ezekiel
Ok, I am going to write a list of do's and dont's for what I think the perfect LR, MR, HR, and SHR servers should include and not include.

Quote from: weeaboo
Also, a "kRO clone" experience only makes sense at 5x rates and below, at most.

Sadly almost all server owners think that. I'd love to see customless 10x.

Offline bulbasteve

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #5 on: Apr 14, 2008, 12:24 pm »
Seriously, I just do not get it. Why in the hell does everyone think that the lower the rates the more of a kro clone a server should be?

Because people want to play RO?

There is always the option to pay the 12 bucks a month you know. Hell the only proper thing for a server to do is change it around enough that it is a unique experience from official RO. That way private servers are not simply "RO for free" but a unique community and games which arise from the base that is RO but are in fact quite different and worthwhile in and of itself.

And heck your server should not just be for people who just want ro for free either, not exactly getting the cream of the crop are you?

Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #6 on: Apr 14, 2008, 12:32 pm »
Hell the only proper thing for a server to do is change it around enough that it is a unique experience from official RO.

Hahaha, no. The only proper thing for a server to do is to provide an experience as close to RO as possible without most blatantly obvious negatives(like paying, inhuman grind and Kafra Shop).

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And heck your server should not just be for people who just want ro for free either, not exactly getting the cream of the crop are you?

I'd say the opposite, it's the people who pay for official RO who are bloody retarded.

Offline HuiJun

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #7 on: Apr 14, 2008, 01:15 pm »
Sadly almost all server owners think that. I'd love to see customless 10x.

Agreed

Offline Radiofire

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #8 on: Apr 14, 2008, 05:17 pm »
Hell the only proper thing for a server to do is change it around enough that it is a unique experience from official RO.

Hahaha, no. The only proper thing for a server to do is to provide an experience as close to RO as possible without most blatantly obvious negatives(like paying, inhuman grind and Kafra Shop).

I see the validity of both points.
However I believe that there's a lot more customized and/or donation hungry servers out there than there are kRO "clones" that have removed the negative aspects Foam Cleaner mentions.

I dig the idea of customless servers at decent rates- grinding for days is boring.

Offline Guest

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #9 on: Apr 14, 2008, 07:28 pm »
honestly to me it doesn't matter so long as theres a TON of ppl

Offline Plague

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #10 on: Apr 14, 2008, 08:38 pm »
First off I said it was opinionated. I made sure to bring that point across like 5 times. Secondly Both types of servers are good. But most of the people that like low rates only play them because they don't want p2p. How many times have you seen a server go big as low rate with a goldroom and a mall, with easy to obtain customs. Its no fun. If you were going to add those things they should be modded. Like mall should have all regular equips from the shops. Those are perfect in my opinion. I asked for you all to post your idea of one also.  :-\
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Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #11 on: Apr 15, 2008, 03:34 am »
honestly to me it doesn't matter so long as theres a TON of ppl

Yeah but you don't play RO so your opinion is invalid.

Quote from: Ezekiel
I asked for you all to post your idea of one also.

Well that's pretty straightforward, I don't play M/H/SH anyway so: Get a dedicated host, take iRO, get rid of Kafra Shop, monthly fee and dual clienting, increase all rates by 10, start giving a damn, done.

I like the idea of logarythmic increase for drops because 10x is a lot and doesn't scale well, but I'm too lazy to actually check the raw numbers.

Offline Brainstorm

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #12 on: Apr 15, 2008, 07:13 am »
LRS
Dont's
Quote
-Job Changer
-Baby Job Changer
-Stat Resetter
-Shopping Mall
-Buffer
-Goldroom
-100% Refine Rates
-Customs(Unless obtained from long quests)
-PK
-No Heal PvP
-MVP Room
-Donation Items
Define "customs" please. I have many, yet im not sure what you mean by that.
Custom headgears? Custom features? Custom @commands? @custom mobs? Custom job classes? Custom skills?

Do's
Quote
-Job Quests
-0.01 - 0.25% Card Drops
-Training Grounds
-Warper(If Theres a healer)
-Healer(If theres a warper)
-Headgear Quests
-Daily Events for Normal gears/Headgears
-Show gained exp
-Basic Commands(and autoloot)
Question, why do you want DIALY events for normal gears? Mainly on a low rate? Get free stuff everyday and not have to work for it? You shouldnt be on a low rate server if you have that in your mind.

Anyway, what i highlighted as green are the stuff i got on my server.
« Last Edit: Apr 15, 2008, 07:55 am by Brainstorm »

Offline bulbasteve

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #13 on: Apr 15, 2008, 02:47 pm »
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Well that's pretty straightforward, I don't play M/H/SH anyway so: Get a dedicated host, take iRO, get rid of Kafra Shop, monthly fee and dual clienting, increase all rates by 10, start giving a damn, done.

I like the idea of logarythmic increase for drops because 10x is a lot and doesn't scale well, but I'm too lazy to actually check the raw numbers.

If that is all someone deos to set up a server, then how did they give a damn? The only thing that decides if you should run a server is your ability to get a host? That is it? No coding knowledge required...just set it up and forget it and let the donation money roll in! Woohoo!

And log works great for drops. :)
« Last Edit: Apr 15, 2008, 02:59 pm by bulbasteve »

Offline Guest

Re: The perfect Servers.
« Reply #14 on: Apr 15, 2008, 07:13 pm »
honestly to me it doesn't matter so long as theres a TON of ppl
Yeah but you don't play RO so your opinion is invalid.

Dx thats not trueeeeeeeee
i sit in town and talk THATS playing!