My friend and I are long time RO players dating back to the beginning of the OG classic server. We've been through many Pservers together but really felt that ggRO (hotshot gg) had the closest resemblance to the classic servers we're nostalgic for. Everyone knows the story of their downfall, however. I want to see how many players would be interested in a server similar to ggRO. Low to mid rates, NO pay to win, cash shop with cosmetics ONLY, main and different chat rooms to easily communicate and trade, and over all player friendly, without holding their hand. I'm asking this because I'm looking into making a new server that can compete with the big dogs. Please let me know below! /no1
Isn't it basically what the most other servers are offering now?
Quote from: EirDaOppaiDragon on Sep 30, 2017, 09:28 PM
Isn't it basically what the most other servers are offering now?
Not from what I've seen. Everything is p2w now it seems, and if it isn't there's other traits to the server that are just unappealing; and their avg online numbers prove it.
I'm talking about a server where you can't go to site, load points, and buy cards for the gear that you also bought, where you can openly talk in #main, trade in #trade/#market, and recruit in #party/#recruit. I love a chat that's constantly running, and I think a lot of others do to.
My ideal server, to name just a few features
ep 10.4
7/7/5
99/70
190atksp
NO p2w
Donation for Cosmetics
Active Vanilla WoE Community
Quote from: deadfolx on Sep 30, 2017, 12:35 PM
My friend and I are long time RO players dating back to the beginning of the OG classic server. We've been through many Pservers together but really felt that ggRO (hotshot gg) had the closest resemblance to the classic servers we're nostalgic for. Everyone knows the story of their downfall, however. I want to see how many players would be interested in a server similar to ggRO. Low to mid rates, NO pay to win, cash shop with cosmetics ONLY, main and different chat rooms to easily communicate and trade, and over all player friendly, without holding their hand. I'm asking this because I'm looking into making a new server that can compete with the big dogs. Please let me know below! /no1
This is pretty much what our server offers. We're quite new as well so numbers don't really justify, but give us a try. A lot of the players' feedback is that they got the "classic Ragnarok feel" throughout the server.
Quote from: deadfolx on Sep 30, 2017, 12:35 PM
My friend and I are long time RO players dating back to the beginning of the OG classic server. We've been through many Pservers together but really felt that ggRO (hotshot gg) had the closest resemblance to the classic servers we're nostalgic for. Everyone knows the story of their downfall, however. I want to see how many players would be interested in a server similar to ggRO. Low to mid rates, NO pay to win, cash shop with cosmetics ONLY, main and different chat rooms to easily communicate and trade, and over all player friendly, without holding their hand. I'm asking this because I'm looking into making a new server that can compete with the big dogs. Please let me know below! /no1
The problem is much more than you are thinking. The problem with ggRO wasn't just terrible staff choices. Had they had a different staff, they would eventually reach the same conclusion as many other popular and well-made pre-RE servers did.
Sure, a lot of people say that they are interested in playing a classic, pre-RE RO server when they thought RO was in it's prime, but that comes with inherent issues. The biggest issues being that your players will get bored very quickly. You plan on doing an episode 10.4 server that's almost completely vanilla. Here's the biggest issues that you will face:
- The majority of your players will have played a pre-RE server many times before and thus aren't offered anything "new" other than a fresh start alongside everyone else.
- This means the majority of players will also already know exactly what builds and what route they will take to 99. Again, nothing new.
- Pre-RE only has so much content even if you decide to go past episode 10.4. How are you going to be able to pump out new content to keep players interested?
I think that even if you were to somehow gather up 500+ players for your classic-feeling pserver, you wouldn't last long unless you come up with a way to sustain player's interest. Any plan devised to offer something new is just one step away from the vanilla server you started with.
You're going to be in a lose-lose situation from the beginning when you target pre-RE low rate players. They may claim that they want the prime RO but then will leave once the rush of starting over wears off and they have nothing to do. I think you'd have a better shot coming up with something non-vanilla/unique as long as you have some solid reasons as to why you have the features you do. Presentation also matters a lot.
insomnia's right, most players are apes who dont know what they want.
they will rail on p2w servers, but then line up to join officials/talon/rebirth/nova/etc.
then they'll say they want new content, and all line up to join copy paste clones of xRO/yrvines/etc.
they'll tell you they don't want titan available to everyone, and then make titan work for their guild anyways.
you cant really trust the playerbase of ro in any regard, unless they're being self-deprecating.