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Title: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Dec 22, 2017, 10:40 PM
Greetings Everyone,
We would like to sadly announce the stealing of RebirthRO data and servers, our previous technical administrator along side with our GM's decided that it's Okay and Fair to Steal RebirthRO data, Delete backups and Corrupt existing data.
It's very sad how they act like the saviors of the server to make them action, as in theft sounds right, nothing can make the wrong right, and right can never be done through doing the wrong.

Ancyker was hired back almost two years ago as our technical administrator to take care of our servers technical maintenance, developing and hosting, along side with that a lot of changes in the GM team happened, some of them was hired as paid workers and others were a volunteers.
All of them known the work situation, known that there's other who's paid workers etc, and they've all agreed on work condition, and they were getting paid on time, although some delay was happening lately because payments were held by Ancyker and not Syphon.

We do not want to attack Ancyker or the rest of the staff who betrayed our trust, neither it's any of our interest to use personal matters and issues happening in other people life's as our cheap and disgusting attack as happened from Ancyker's side in his theft announcement at the Stolen-RebirthRO Forums. However.

We would like to show out some facts of what happened during the last few days, with logs.

1- A little Over two weeks ago of the date of this announcement *22nd of December 2017* Anckyre moved all servers and data and updated players clients to connect to the new servers without our knowledge as stated in his own theft announcement.
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/5UOxMoaISGWmmaJoj2AD6Q.png)

2- Two weeks after the previous action syphon found his accounts deleted on RebirthRO and asked Anckyer  through skype why he is banned, then Anckyre told him that he stole the servers

(https://i.imgur.com/RpDf4gA.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mBl35YA.png)

3- Syphon shut-downed all servers and asked a new team of technicians to inspect the servers, we found many destructive actions done by Anckyre which was logged, and we restored as much data as possible, some of the actions done by him.

The last session as root, he was inspecting if any backups left.
Code: [Select]
#+1513704496
cd
#+1513704511
cd /zroot/backups/
#+1513704513
ls
#+1513704517
exit

The last MySQL Queries done on our login tables, to ensure destruction of players account data, not that only he also dropped loki database.

Code: [Select]
show variables;
SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%datadir%';
drop database loki_se
;
DELIMITER //
DROP FUNCTION IF EXISTS shuffle;
CREATE FUNCTION shuffle(
    v_chars TEXT
)
RETURNS TEXT
NOT DETERMINISTIC -- multiple RAND()'s
NO SQL
SQL SECURITY INVOKER
COMMENT ''
BEGIN
    DECLARE v_retval TEXT DEFAULT '';
    DECLARE u_pos    INT UNSIGNED;
    DECLARE u        INT UNSIGNED;
    SET u = LENGTH(v_chars);
    WHILE u > 0
    DO
      SET u_pos = 1 + FLOOR(RAND() * u);
      SET v_retval = CONCAT(v_retval, MID(v_chars, u_pos, 1));
      SET v_chars = CONCAT(LEFT(v_chars, u_pos - 1), MID(v_chars, u_pos + 1, u));
      SET u = u - 1;
    END WHILE;
    RETURN v_retval;
END;
//
DROP FUNCTION IF EXISTS shuffle;  CREATE FUNCTION shuffle(     v_chars TEXT ) RETURNS TEXT NOT DETERMINISTIC  NO SQL SQL SECURITY INVOKER COMMENT '' BEGIN     DECLARE v_retval TEXT DEFAULT '';     DECLARE u_pos    INT UNSIGNED;     DECLARE u        INT UNSIGNED;      SET u = LENGTH(v_chars);     WHILE u > 0     DO       SET u_pos = 1 + FLOOR(RAND() * u);       SET v_retval = CONCAT(v_retval, MID(v_chars, u_pos, 1));       SET v_chars = CONCAT(LEFT(v_chars, u_pos - 1), MID(v_chars, u_pos + 1, u));       SET u = u - 1;     END WHILE;      RETURN v_retval; END;//
DELIMITER ;
use rebirth
DELIMITER //
DROP FUNCTION IF EXISTS shuffle;
CREATE FUNCTION shuffle(
    v_chars TEXT
)
RETURNS TEXT
NOT DETERMINISTIC -- multiple RAND()'s
NO SQL
SQL SECURITY INVOKER
COMMENT ''
BEGIN
    DECLARE v_retval TEXT DEFAULT '';
    DECLARE u_pos    INT UNSIGNED;
    DECLARE u        INT UNSIGNED;
    SET u = LENGTH(v_chars);
    WHILE u > 0
    DO
      SET u_pos = 1 + FLOOR(RAND() * u);
      SET v_retval = CONCAT(v_retval, MID(v_chars, u_pos, 1));
      SET v_chars = CONCAT(LEFT(v_chars, u_pos - 1), MID(v_chars, u_pos + 1, u));
      SET u = u - 1;
    END WHILE;
    RETURN v_retval;
END;
//
DROP FUNCTION IF EXISTS shuffle;  CREATE FUNCTION shuffle(     v_chars TEXT ) RETURNS TEXT NOT DETERMINISTIC  NO SQL SQL SECURITY INVOKER COMMENT '' BEGIN     DECLARE v_retval TEXT DEFAULT '';     DECLARE u_pos    INT UNSIGNED;     DECLARE u        INT UNSIGNED;      SET u = LENGTH(v_chars);     WHILE u > 0     DO       SET u_pos = 1 + FLOOR(RAND() * u);       SET v_retval = CONCAT(v_retval, MID(v_chars, u_pos, 1));       SET v_chars = CONCAT(LEFT(v_chars, u_pos - 1), MID(v_chars, u_pos + 1, u));       SET u = u - 1;     END WHILE;      RETURN v_retval; END;//
DELIMITER ;
UPDATE login SET email = shuffle(`email`);
SELECT email FROM login WHERE userid = "Ancyker";
use rebirth
UPDATE login SET herc_pass = shuffle(`herc_pass`);
UPDATE login SET user_pass = shuffle(`user_pass`);


The previously shown logs shows how a very trusted worker betrayed our trust to destruct and steal the data.

Now we have a very final word
We're now working as a whole new team, reviving RebirthRO as a new server, with revolutionary management, better IT solutions to avoid tons of issues happened cause of the poor Technical Decisions which caused many lag and dc issues previously, with our main aim is to provide best enjoyment to players, more will be announced as soon as we're ready to.

We thank you for your interested and reading of this very long announcement!
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Strudel on Dec 23, 2017, 12:10 AM
But.. https://community.rebirth.ro/topic/990-coup-drebirth-the-great-basectomy/
Basically, who are you..? What year do you live in?
Also please be consistent with his name at least please, Anckyre or Ancyker, pick one.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Dec 23, 2017, 12:26 AM
But.. https://community.rebirth.ro/topic/990-coup-drebirth-the-great-basectomy/
Basically, who are you..? What year do you live in?
Also please be consistent with his name at least please, Anckyre or Ancyker, pick one.

Hello,

Oke my name is fixed!
sorry about the typo.
I am syphon
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: RebirthOfficial on Dec 23, 2017, 12:50 AM
Most of my screenshots are here: https://imgur.com/a/ZxNrY

You had PLENTY of chances to change your mind about your spending decisions. You were even going to be allowed to stay but you refused because you wouldn't have db access. This is AFTER you tried to convince me to delete players DONATED points in hopes they'd forget and donate again when they came back. You were a HORRIBLE server owner and that's why every staff member, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE, left with me. You are alone with no one. You only have the devs you paid (poorly) and they'll only be around until what little money you have left runs out. You should be spending your money on your bills not on starting another flop cash-grab server. You did this to yourself, not a single person has stood up for you. Most of the players don't even know you and the ones that do all of them have shown signs of relief that you are gone. All you did was spam them with emails, beg them for money. Hell, you asked me several times if there were ways to make fake reviews on THIS SITE. You were a terrible owner and I was just flat out tired of covering up your constant incompetence.

(https://i.imgur.com/jIJXJix.png)

I will not be monitoring further replies to this post. I refuse to engage in further juvenile banter.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: jacobo_bobo on Dec 23, 2017, 12:15 PM
Rule 1 for any admin of a big server is...to follow your own account protection rules.

Never share your login and password with anyone!

Stealing the server is probably the most drastic consequence but giving access means they can see and modify anyone's accounts. Give/sell items to friends, make money behind your back.. or if they get upset with you or the community they can easily wipe the server or take over like what happened to you.

If you need technical work done then pay your hosting company techs to do it or hire an external free lancer. Not someone who has an account and plays RO as they will see your login as very valuable information and use it to their advantage if you piss them off.

It's very sad for the GMs that took over your server though..

If they felt you were a bad admin they can easily just quit and make their own server from scratch. Not rip yours away from you which you have had and worked on for over a decade. I felt that was a *^*& move. they had no right to take it from you even if you wanted to close it.

Its like a maid cleaning a house and then locking out the owner and taking over the house because the owner is too dirty. Thats not what maids do, they just quit and find a new house to clean.

But hey..its the internet, everything is possible.

Good luck to you and your players during this madness.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Yuzo on Dec 23, 2017, 10:30 PM
crazy stuff. i remember playing this server a few times in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: ishizue on Dec 23, 2017, 11:48 PM
Its like a maid cleaning a house and then locking out the owner and taking over the house because the owner is too dirty. Thats not what maids do, they just quit and find a new house to clean.

/...
I doubt you understand what a maid does, so your input is redundant. Also, you think taking care of a server is equivalent to taking care of a house? So, are you implying that RebirthRO has 1 parent, the maid is the Admin and the children of that house are the 500+ players playing it? What happened to the GMs then? They're unpaid and volunteers. Have they become the volunteer service for the handicapped then?

The answer to all the rhetorical questions is a big, fat NO. /x

A server is run like a Company. So, much like a company, it has CEOs, Managers and Staffs to operate and ensure that the server runs optimally for the Consumers (i.e. players) to enjoy. Syphon, in all 14 years being the Owner of said server, has done nothing much except AFK continuously online, enjoying 80-90% of the money generated from said server, spending it on himself, and friends, and maybe 1% towards paying for the miscellaneous fees like host server, etc. (of course, his own bills included).

For the past 2 years, the only staff that was paid is the overall Admin - Ancyker - and Ancy's request for payment towards the only other Admin
- Phoenix - moderating and growing the server was ignored by Syphon saying there's not enough funds to go around eventhough he's making quite a fortune doing nothing else but advertising. /omg That is such a bs move considered all the good Phoenix has done for the server in her years of UNPAID services since being hired as a GM. Every player loves her and you not wanting to sacrifice some of your income to pay such a great Admin is beyond any reasoning you can possibly come up with. /an

So, what do you do when a Company is dying, the CEO absorbs 80-90% of the Company funds and expects the Company to run and pay for the rest of the implementations to grow said dying Company that has 100s of filed complaints about hosting service? Yes, an obvious coup d'etat which was what happened to Syphon when the entire Staff team ousted him for being a burden to the server. Now, they can finally maximize the 80-90% funds they have access to after he's gone. Staffs are getting paid and we're getting back quality hosting that is lag-free for the first time in 5+ years.

I am not an admin, neither am I a moderator. I am a player who has been playing RebirthRO loyally for the past 11+ years since 2005. I have seen things and I have seen Ancyker's corrupted days. But if we are going to compare what has been done to the server in 2006 with what it is currently suffering from in 2017, you should know why the players here no longer support you.

You're taking our funds for your own enjoyment when we're suffering from unending, hosting lag for YEARS. I've seen Admins begging players to donate more so they can buy more sprites and expand our server. /wah What happened to the 100s of euros donated? What are they being used for that the Admins don't even have funds to pay for a move to a better host server? Even after back-to-back events that probably garnered a few 100s more and still not enough? It took a long time for the truth to come out. So long that most of the old, loyal players have left the server to better, lag-free ones who are more transparent about their expenditures.

You do not want to move hosting back to a better server, that's fine. We'll side with the Staffs that ACTUALLY wants to help us, NOT the one who just wants our money and gives us crap service because the server is always functioning at almost a deficit. So until you can wrap your head around this situation, forget about opening another duplicate server. You were never much around during the development of the server, you handed it over to the Admins to decide and grow, so don't come digging for dirt and accusing when you have some explaining to do yourself.  /pif

Maybe start acting like the Owner, be involved, and maybe.. just maybe.. we would care.  /hmm
But as of this moment, good bye and good luck. /no1

P.S. Syphon may not state it right now because he is in dire need of a functioning team and a player base to rebuild another server from his old backup, but he is pretty open about his dislike for filipinos. So, as a fellow South East Asian, all filipinos please boycott his server because your needs will not be heard in future.  /??
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: ishizue on Dec 24, 2017, 12:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/j8nwVz0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/tNeMQ1y.png)

Just in case my previous essay post doesn't convince future players, these pictures of the conversations between our current Admin (and new owner of RebirthRO) and Syphon will convince all Asians to boycott Syphon's server.

Please do not help this condescending person who just wants to save his pocket money. I have 2 level 10 donor accounts in RebirthRO over the 10+ yrs I've played which would mean I've contributed at least 4k euros and counting, especially the last 2-3 yrs since I started interning.

Also, this:
(https://i.imgur.com/4WPVmhO.png)

I'm a Singaporean and I don't want you investing here after what you said about Asians. GTFO!
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: ragington on Dec 24, 2017, 12:49 AM
LMAO this is gold!
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: DASTGIR[ on Dec 24, 2017, 05:24 AM
You think taking care of server is equvalent to running a company?
I doubt you understand what a maid(server) does
If you have been to server development scene, you would understand, server cannot be compared to company. Check out all the server and you would know. Mostly server is owned by a person and have several developers (in case of few servers, they manage everything themself). There's a chance that server have co-admin(s), in case several people are involved in server planning/development.

They're unpaid and volunteers.
Some of GM's and Developers volunteers to join while some are being hired to join. Most likely, in most of the servers, Event GM's and Community Helpers have happily volunteered, and never asked to do so. While Developer's are hired or one of their friends (mostly paid)
Depends which kind of GM you are talking about.

For the past 2 years, the only staff that was paid is the overall Admin - Ancyker
Ancyker was never an Admin (until few days back). Ancyker was paid from when he was hired. not from only 2 years

Ancy's request for payment towards the only other Admin - Phoenix -
Phoenix was also never an Admin (until few days back). I have 1 question, why didn't phoenix ask himself about getting paid? why he continued to provide the service even after not getting paid?

the entire Staff team ousted him for being a burden to the server
Not to mention, everyone got promoted and got paid (maybe greed?)

quality hosting that is lag-free for the first time in 5+ years.
*cough* 5+ years *cough*
If I remember well, Rebirth RO was shifted to OVH maybe 2 year back (Q4 of 2015).
Before that, it was on he.net (Your Currently Loved QUALITY hosting)

I have seen Ancyker's corrupted days.
*cough* Stealing server, Moving silently 2 weeks back, Coup *cough*

hosting lag for YEARS.
*YEARS* , that means you approve that he.net was not good, and you are moving them back there?

I've seen Admins begging players to donate more so they can buy more sprites and expand our server.
*AdminS*, you implying Ancyker and Phoenix, as you mentioned above they are admin, and syphon was continuously online, doing nothing, but AFK.

We'll side with the Staffs that ACTUALLY wants to help us,
Help? or take money?

You were never much around during the development of the server,
being around for development means to be online in game? I guess you would not know MANY Developers who worked for RebirthRO, behind the scenes and had active engagement with both syphon and ancyker.

but he is pretty open about his dislike for filipinos.
Didn't he want to move the server to singapore (Physically close to Philippines, and better ping to Asia). It has better ping to Asia, much better as compared to California (Your Current QUALITY host).


Additionally:
OVH Costed 200$, he.net costs 2k$+ (likely 4k$-6k$), both are having bad pings to Asia. so basically, all your point on host is invalid, as they are moving to same host as they were running 2-3 years back.
OVH had DDoS Protection, he.net not.
Let's say even if we consider server as a company, have you seen CEO engaging with the customers daily? or engaging once a week or once a month? Pretty much not always, if we consider Syphon as CEO, he was right managing the stuff behind the scenes, which is not visible to everyone.

https://imgur.com/a/Mjgzj
Proves who's money hungry.
Besides, lets see server cost(monthly) when syphon was admin, and rebirthRO was on he.net (Your QUALITY host which lagged)
2k$ (he.net Full Rack) + 4-5k$ (DDoS Protection) + Ancyker Payment (1-2k$) + Monthly Developers Payment (> 500$)
Total: 9k$-10k$, Not to mention advertisment which costs more than you think.

Also, If I remember well, when rRO switched to new forums, all old staff left (except Phoenix) and new staff were hired by the rRO (mostly by Ancyker), so you know why and who would support whom.

We can maybe conclude this:
1) Since he was asking for singapore host, he didn't hate fillipino.
2) Cost of server was 9k$-10k$ + Advertisement (few thousand bucks) monthly, so he was not keeping 90% income to himself.
3) InActive InGame doesn't mean inactive for development.
4) Lag has been there from 5+ years (Which includes he.net too).
5) Ancyker was paid much more, may you ask them what was his job? To coup the server?
6) Players will side with staff whomsoever brainwash them?

Note:
1) Also, when you post screenshot, please do so with the dates, Server is 10+ year old, and something might be told way before than we can interpret.
2) I don't hate anyone, let it be syphon or Ancyker. Posted what is supposed to be the truth.

Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Jackie on Dec 24, 2017, 09:44 AM
Let's be honest Syphon.. What have you ever done that's beneficial to the server? The only thing you did as an owner is advertise the server. Not to mention when you paid admins, you paid them under minimum wage to work for you whilst you went out spending the majority of your earned income on gambling, then claiming you were too broke to add more contribution funds to keep the server healthy.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/jgr09t.png)

I mean as an owner, not once have you actually cared for the community of the server during the past at least 10 years. All you came online for was to announce 'write a review for RMS!' every 10-15 minutes which your staff did for you after every hosted event anyways. As for not caring about the community. This is the sort of behaviour that would be used on the main chat.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/1040sp0.png)

I was a GM of this server around 2014-2015. During this time most things were declining. The lack of staff co-operation, Syphon nowhere to be seen; no communication to any of the staff, not even the admins. Unless it was to do with income going down you wouldn't see him anywhere, not even in the staff group (that he was in). The current 'voluntary staff' (GM's) were left to manage players reports, help desk, events etc. And on top of this the 2 GM's that were available could not even do half of these because we weren't high enough account level to deal with item returns, or point related issues as these required a 'higher-up' which were nowhere to be seen. (At this time Ancyker only dealt with website related issues, Sen went MIA for the most part, Syphon didn't even log in). And it backed up everything and caused people to leave due to the fact we simply didn't have any power to deal with their requests.

Syphon doesn't even care for his staff, so anyone working for him on the 'new server' I do truly feel bad for you.  /ok
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Nova on Dec 24, 2017, 12:09 PM
Let's be honest Syphon.. What have you ever done that's beneficial to the server? The only thing you did as an owner is advertise the server. Not to mention when you paid admins, you paid them under minimum wage to work for you whilst you went out spending the majority of your earned income on gambling, then claiming you were too broke to add more contribution funds to keep the server healthy.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/jgr09t.png)

As someone who plays poker as his main source of income, this amuses me greatly.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Cloetta on Dec 24, 2017, 09:30 PM
That's nice, on one side you have an allegedly useless and clueless owner who cared so little he didn't notice his server had been sabotaged and redirected for weeks, and on the other people who have more bitterness than faith in their ability to run a server so they had to irreparably damage the server they feel they're owed for their work after cloning it.

Morally I feel Syphon is in the right, he made the server and hired the people who managed it better than he ever could. Even with everything on the table there was no reason for any of the sketchy, underhanded crap that got pulled. La Révolution Francaise this is not.

If the staff was unhappy with the state of things they should have simply left and made their own server, this looks more like a play for the established income than anything to me.

Well, in the end, this was all done by someone who had been fired once before for corruption and power abuse and re-hired. The writing was on the wall.


Edit: And now Ancyker appears to be asking people to file fraudulent chargebacks for the last six months and re-donate to him instead. Incitation to commit a crime after all that .. Eessh.

Just gonna leave this here from a certain 2014 drama thread.

https://youtu.be/C_xALyz6_KU
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: spcd on Dec 25, 2017, 03:30 AM
If you don't like the the owner, why not just leave and make your own. You can get the remaining players to play on your server. BS reason. That's basically stealing coz you know the server is earning alot of cash. And for the owner, hope you learn your lesson now. This would not happen if you care for your server. RIP
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Hakk on Dec 25, 2017, 06:42 AM
The staff can just leave and make their own server imo. Let's be real here, is he gonna steal the server if it's not making a lot of cash? And now he's asking them to file chargebacks and donate again. And maybe the staff member get a share of the income? Which is probably why they side with him.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Yuzo on Dec 25, 2017, 06:54 AM
nice to see both sides of the stories. hope this thread develops more, it's the kind of juicy stuff we crave here on rms. both parties seem shady af in my opinion. seems kind of like the 2016 US election, choose which s*** is less s***. :)
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Lai on Dec 25, 2017, 01:09 PM
This is insane...and I can't believe it could have happened to anyone...

No matter the reason behind this act of theft, it's a criminal act of the GM team that Syphon hired.
There are no saying that any OWNER of any server must do "certain" things. The OWNER has all rights to do what ever he wants, being online or offline.
No matter what the OWNER does or do in real life, doesnt make it right for the THIEVES to steal , hijack etc of the OWNER's righteous property.

I BLAME Syphon tbh for being so kind and trust this worm Ancyker, godamn so low, I read the "hijacked server changelogs", LOL, the first CHANGELOGS after the hijack was "ADDED NEW DONATION ITEMS" ;D ;D ;D
And the Post that Ancyker made on his stolen property was saying that "They need MORE DONATIONS" ;D
So funny....
I see this as a team of thieves thriving after MONEY that doesn't belong to them and they deserve NOTHING of what Syphon has created, and the platform that Syphon founded.
They should all be thankful that Syphon gave them the chance, to be part of his creation.


Like many said, IF THEY didn't like Syphon etc, they could just LEAVE the team and start their own server.


THIEVES are THIEVES, CRIME is a CRIME, this is a SHAME of Ragnarok Online Private server world / community.

To all Admins/Owners out there, learn from this lesson and protect your server, who knows, you might be the next one being "hijacked", because you were not online 24/7 a day! <3


Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: SukiChii on Dec 25, 2017, 02:00 PM
So they pulled a Talon, but shadier?
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Parachute on Dec 25, 2017, 09:07 PM
@Ancyker

No hard feelings to anything I'll say here. If anything, you did this to yourself.

Just like everybody had been saying, if you didn't like the management or the inactivity of the owner himself, just leave. I wont even bother including your corruption history in the picture. if you felt that you contributed more to the server than the owner himself, leave. The server will eventually die mainly because of him. You can launch a server of your own, as a matter of fact, you got (or stolen?) all the server files you needed, the staff members seem backing up your theft decision, so I assume they will stick with you whatever future project you make.

Jealousy. It seems like the best word to describe the situation. You felt that you had been doing a lot for the server, and yet the owner doesn't seem to do anything. Still, he's earning more or less 80% of monthly profit, then it seems like you or your staff team got jealous of the situation. In reality, you were still a paid staff member during your stay, the rightful owner is still Syphon. You could've asked for a bigger salary/raise, if he wont do it, you could've left.

Everything could've work out well if you just left the team. if you seem confident about your skills or handling the entire server without Syphon, you can simply gather the staff with you or even "steal" current players. But no, you decided to steal everything of RebirthRO. Are you not confident enough of advertising a server of your own? Are you not confident enough to start from scratch? You cannot say "I simply want the best for the community, to serve them with a better hosting, management, etc..." That's bullsh*t. What you just did is tainted a long-lived RO server. Bottomline, you wanted the money for yourself and prolly to some of the staff members as well.

Do not redirect the fact that you've stolen the server by stating one by one all his crap. You can say he hates Pinoys, and as a Filipino myself, I felt offended. But does that mean you are now free of charge? Ofc not. Regardless if he's f*cked up himself, this theft is a crime. Shame, but you did this to yourself.

@Syphon

Well. Just like Ancyker, this could've been avoided. You also did this to yourself.

First, who the hell loans a house worth 550k Euro, i mean, do you even have a stable job?

Second, I bet you could've paid off your bills after 10+ years of RebirthRO if you never took everything for granted. Especially the money you used for partying or gambling.

Third, I understand that sometimes the owner needs to take a break, but sometimes the best judge are your playerbase. If they never feel your presence, as the owner of the server, you are doomed. No, not necessarily in forums. Instead, you can show some activity in your team's Skype Group. I always believe that an admin's biggest asset in a pserver are both the playerbase and the staff team. If you cannot even manage both, then maybe that's something you should work on ---- in your future server.

Fourth, If your staff team go against you, considering they seem to have something to back their words up, then you fail miserably as an owner of your server. If you are in debt right now. You did that to yourself. That's something you need to change.

As I see it, the server won't go back to you. You can file legal charges, but hey you own a "private" server, so goodluck with that. The best thing that you could get after all this (if you are lucky) is to shut down the server that had been stolen away from you.

@Both

Merry Christmas! Happy New Year to you both and I hope both of you change.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: ishizue on Dec 26, 2017, 12:32 AM
I came back to see comments that STILL DOES NOT SEEM to fully understand our situation here in RebirthRO. I spent a LOT of money to support this server and for the 11+ years I've been playing on this server, there has never been a day in the past 8 years where there was much progress in terms of Chapter wise.

REASON BEING: The server is always functioning at almost a deficit ALL THE TIME.

You say it like it's easy for the Dev Team to just make an entirely new server but how about the Players who put a lot of time and hardwork farming the things, spent and donated to the server, supporting it so that it can be around for a LONG TIME in the future?

All you guys who replied in this RMS supporting Syphon are ONLY LOOKING AT THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.

How about the Players who ACTUALLY FUND THE SERVER???

We lost SO MANY PLAYERS because of all the bs that's been happening in RebirthRO. Can't put the entire blame on Syphon but he is still the Owner and decides certain factors that affect our Community; (1) hiring Admins and leaving the hiring and promotion to Dev Team, (2) our host server and, of course, (3) the expenditures of the Dev Team for new implementations to grow the server.

(1) On one hand, he leaves the entire development of the game to the Dev Team. What this means is that all our new players, and some of the players who are 2-3 years with us, don't even know who is Syphon. Some thinks he's just another GM. Worse, because he likes to just spam links to leave reviews in RMS, there is a growing % of the population who are convinced he's just a bot. That is the ONLY existence he has in the game and even in our Discord.

On the other hand, that also means that if our Admin is corrupt, almost every GM that is hired by said Admin is also corrupted in some way or another. And RebirthRO has seen a fair bit of corruption in the past. I would like to stress in the past. Ancyker had his bad days but that's somewhere in 2006-2009. If we're going to compare who's more corrupted than who, what makes it worse is that Syphon's corruption is hidden under wraps and the only way to expose it is via screenshots of the very rare private conversations between Admins and him. Just because the screenshots have no dates on them does not make him any better. He has been doing this since 2003 and hasn't changed much since then. So, people supporting him without fully understanding the entire situation do not know any better. It's only hearsay and assumptions to you but the comments you leave on this post is viewed very negatively by the overall Community in RebirthRO since Players are the most affected by this outcome.

(2) Already touched on this topic but let me stress this on whosoever wants to debate about he.net vs OVH. OVH gave South East Asians TERRIBLE PING (around 100-300 ping depending on region and quality of our ISP). MOST of our players who left of their own accord (i.e. not banned for botting) are those who couldn't stand the frequent lag and rollbacks OVH has brought to the server time and time again. he.net was better, with less lag and people were actually enjoying the game for awhile but Syphon only cared about how expensive the host server was and does not care much about Players who suffer from terrible ping. All he cares is that he DOESN'T have any lag and does not even try to be empathetic towards those who DO. Instead preferring to just talk smack about the complaints and, ultimately, ignores them entirely. If this is the kind of Owner you want in your Server, so be it. He has shown time and time again to be blatantly rude and judgmental about Players who're either new or have not donated at least 2000 euros to the Server.

(3) Let's be real. If you're the Owner of a Server, your interests should lie in helping the Server grow. Improving the quality of the Server proportionally improves the satisfaction of Players and, therefore, increases potential income of Server. What Syphon has done was just to take and take and take the funds and did NOTHING else to help improve the Server. He has cut costs by switching over to a terrible host server, even refusing to pay Devs for long periods of time, preferring to just insist they are volunteers who need no pay. This was what happened to Phoenix who has been volunteering her services for a little over 2 YEARS with no pay and revealed that she would've left the server if her situation does not improve. She is the BEST Dev we ever had in a long time and if she left, our RebirthRO server would've been officially doomed.

If you think all of that makes Syphon in the Right and that he should've just continued taking from our Server's funds and do absolutely NOTHING but cutting costs and giving us terrible hosting service, making the good Devs leave the server just so he can maximize his own gains, then I suggest if you EVER make a server in future, Don't. You would've made just as terrible an Owner as Syphon is to your own server's Community.

Also for those who think Ancyker is suffering from hijacking the server, NO. Our RebirthRO community fully supports (or do not even care much about) what has happened the past few weeks. In fact, thanks to this little drama in RMS, our community's grown a little (probably Players joining us out of curiosity). But that is all.

Well, hope you guys enjoy your day and, btw, with those 2 screenshots, dates or no dates, it doesn't hide the fact that Syphon is a racist.

P.S. Just admit the fact that Players will never jump ship just because we don't like 1 Dev or the Owner but we WILL jump ship if our gaming quality is affected TERRIBLY. Sooner or later, Syphon might've killed RebirthRO himself but Players would choose to save it rather than it dying. If it means supporting the expulsion of an Owner who is a liability to the Server, then yes, by all means expel him. We prefer our funds left in the hands of those who will maximize it for our Community rather than for personal benefits.

AAAAaaand... It is ALRIGHT if he actually takes and helps develop the game because he is the Owner but NOT TO THE EXTENT that he takes and leaves the Server's funds almost dry with no way of progressing without implementing events that literally begs people for more funds. I cannot count the number of times these money-hungry event were made but it's enough to call it as it is; BS.

P.S.S. I am NOT Ancyker. I am an Old Player who played RebirthRO since 2005. So please understand that my posts has NOTHING to do with Ancyker's ranting. It's just me, a player, ranting about my personal experiences when playing the game being involved in the Community I've come to love that is RebirthRO.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Hakk on Dec 26, 2017, 01:42 AM
Like you said, dates or no dates, still doesn't change the fact of what Ancy did in the past. Do you really believe that he did this for the community? Nope, he only wanted the money for himself. He could've just start a new server from scratch, but need a lot of fund to do so. Why make a new one when he can just steal a server with stable income & playerbase, right? LOL

Before you start things like you don't understand RebirthRO, I can assure you yes I do. I played there for 9+ years, and like you, I SPENT A LOT of money to support the server, but does that mean anything? No it doesn't. You should've known that the moment you decide to donate. RRO website stated that "Once a payment has been processed through the website, it becomes property of Rebirth B.V." So how Syphon(OWNER) spend the money is really non of our business, as long as he keeps the server running, which he did. Oh boy, you're delusional if you think Ancy won't use the funds for himself.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: persimonLove on Dec 26, 2017, 05:42 AM
Reasons y ancy stole it is coz. He knows if he make a new server the donators wont just jump server as most of us knows how sucky his admin ability  and how much of a power tripper he is. and who wants to just leave all the donations they made just to support some1 like that? its like gambling with a .000001% chance of success. /heh /heh
Lets face it its easier to steal it than to coax the playerbase to go to him. Im basing this from my experience when i was in rro.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Cloetta on Dec 26, 2017, 06:29 AM
I've been excavating older rebirth threads to get a better overview of the situation (Not being a player myself), and from what I can see, of course the staff would side with Ancy, he alienated all the old staff until they quit and replaced them with his girlfriends and friends, of course they would support him in any endeavor he undertakes.
If we want to make a real life politics connection it's as plain as the Don replacing the head of the FBI, supreme court chief justice and FCC heads with his friends (And dozens of other less visible entities), of course they wouldn't stop him if they want to keep their jobs and benefits.

(https://i.imgur.com/2XVMjDx.gif)
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Deacon on Dec 26, 2017, 10:32 AM
This right here is why I can't f***ing be bothered with RO anymore.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: BlackOps1 on Dec 26, 2017, 10:54 AM
This right here is why I can't f***ing be bothered with RO anymore.

more like i cant be bothered with RRO at all anymore (played there for 4 years).

Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Lai on Dec 26, 2017, 05:19 PM
Well, like the player mentioned, the most affected are the community and the players.

I just wished I could helped those affected players somehow...
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: BoCheats on Dec 26, 2017, 07:27 PM
The staff can just leave and make their own server imo. Let's be real here, is he gonna steal the server if it's not making a lot of cash? And now he's asking them to file chargebacks and donate again. And maybe the staff member get a share of the income? Which is probably why they side with him.

I don't see why people are complaining about the staff wanting to be paid for using up their time to work on the server?? I mean, would you want to go into your job every day and not get paid for the work you put in? And to be treated like donkey for it on top of that by your boss? I don't really think you would.

The only reason the devs/admins put up with not being paid to begin with was because, unlike Syphon it seems, they actually CARE about the server, what happens to it, and what happens to the players.

I don't really understand why everyone gets upset when people who work hard and deserve to be paid want to actually be paid, when they should be paid.

And from what I understand, anc is asking for the donations to his paypal so he has access to the funds and can then allocate the funds accordingly, where they need to go. The reason people got the most upset here was because the donate money was supposed to be going towards the server, the devs/admins to keep it running, and new content as well as patching to keep the server smooth. But it sounds like Syphon only did part of this, and only because he wanted the bare bones frame to be done at the cheapest payment possible.

I was basically hired by one of the admins to do artwork for the website because syphon hired someone that used copywritten artworks for the main site. The site was since moved, and we are working on getting new artwork to avoid the DMCA claims. Syphon didn't even seem to care about those in the first place. You'd think a dude who gets so much money from people on the server would actually want the server to remain up and running, free of copyright infringement claims, but instead he seemed happy stealing from others, both their money + their copyright material.

Sure, you could claim ancyker+ others stole from him too by couping the server, but imo it seems sort of justified and a sort of 'this is kind of what you get when you piss people off' sort of situation lol
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: BoCheats on Dec 26, 2017, 07:55 PM
Like you said, dates or no dates, still doesn't change the fact of what Ancy did in the past. Do you really believe that he did this for the community? Nope, he only wanted the money for himself. He could've just start a new server from scratch, but need a lot of fund to do so. Why make a new one when he can just steal a server with stable income & playerbase, right? LOL

Before you start things like you don't understand RebirthRO, I can assure you yes I do. I played there for 9+ years, and like you, I SPENT A LOT of money to support the server, but does that mean anything? No it doesn't. You should've known that the moment you decide to donate. RRO website stated that "Once a payment has been processed through the website, it becomes property of Rebirth B.V." So how Syphon(OWNER) spend the money is really non of our business, as long as he keeps the server running, which he did. Oh boy, you're delusional if you think Ancy won't use the funds for himself.

I can understand where you come from on the basis of 'idc what happens with my money after I spend it', but it's that sort of attitude that allows corruption to continue unchecked. It's a very 'idc its not my problem someone else can deal with it' approach and it can cause a lot of issues down the line.

Sure, you just want the product you're purchasing, but what if the item you purchased suddenly disappeared from your inventory without you knowing why, and then you got a flimsy answer from someone saying 'oh you never purchased that or you forgot you spent it or you forgot you gave it away' etc. Syphon was literally doing just that; he'd delete currency from the players inventory if they didn't log in frequently and then when players noticed, he'd lie to them and tell them the above statements to try and coerce them into purchasing more.

So, turning a blind eye to this actually allows him to continue to do fraudulent things, and essentially steal from players and possibly even you, without some of them perhaps noticing or knowing how to deal with it.

Then there's the whole problem of, what becomes of the devs/admins if they do eventually leave because of the way they are treated and then repeatedly not paid when they are promised payment (which apparently happened in a few cases), when you lose a server because of payments withstanding (which also seems to have happened several times), or whatever else? Wouldn't you be upset that you dumped thousands into the server which should have been going to keep it running, to keep new content pumping, and to secure your cool content you paid real cash for only to see it suddenly just... not exist? Wasting your money spent? Etc
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Hakk on Dec 26, 2017, 09:08 PM
If you think Syphon is corrupted, then what's the difference between him and Ancy? Because last I checked, he(Ancy) is and always will be the most corrupted staff in the history of RRO.  Which means you're fine with someone with a corruption history to steal the server from a corrupted owner?  /heh /heh /heh

I don't know Syphon personally. But Syphon is in the right here because the server belongs to him. And why would you continue to provide your service if you're not being paid? Basically, you're like "omg I'm not being paid!! But hey let's continue to work for him" Don't blame anyone but yourself on this.  /heh /heh
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: aerolite on Dec 27, 2017, 08:27 AM
Not expecting this to happen in RebirthRO. This story is identical to what happen to Steve Jobs. Removed from his own company.

I agree with other people though, Anyker does not have the rights to take the entire server from the owner, if you don't like how much you are getting paid, or if you do not like what's going on with the management, go make yourself own server. You shouldn't take all the hard work from the owner. That's stealing and criminal offence.

Now, Syphoon is banned from his own server. Lmfao.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: jacobo_bobo on Dec 27, 2017, 10:15 AM
A lot of people compare RebirthRO to a real company to justify the fact that ancyker stole the server. The truth is, they are not even close.

- RebirthRO is a PRIVATE server not a registered public company.
- The staff are all VOLUNTEERS, they are not on payroll or on contract.
- The players are playing for FREE, they are NOT shareholders, so they are not entitled to be included in the server's decision making.
- Syphon is not the CEO, he is the founder/president/owner of his private server.

Meaning, he can do whatever the hell he wants with his private server. The fact that he was removed from his own creation is theft and plain rude.

Ancyker had access to the database. If he wanted to do it for the players, he could of just made a back up of the database, create a new server, dump the database in the new server and make a topic explaining WHY he is creating a new server and WHY the players should migrate to the new server. Leaving RebirthRO to "die". So yeah, the fact that he decided just to take over a server that has been alive for over a decade when he had many other options is obvious that he did it for the money and not the players.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Ghargatuloth on Dec 27, 2017, 01:49 PM
As someone who played RebirthRO for nearly a decade, I felt that it would be appropriate to chime in on what's happened here.

To start with, what Ancyker and Co. did was a messed up thing to do. Regardless of how garbage the owner is or what you feel you are owed, you shouldn't have stolen the server.

I agree with those who believe that the staff should have been paid/paid more. With the amount of time and effort that goes into running/maintaining RebirthRO, there's no reason that the higher ranked GMs shouldn't have been paid or paid more. However. Stealing the server or holding the server hostage are both really s*** ways of getting your point across. If you don't think you're getting paid enough at your real job, do you hold the CEO hostage to get more money? No, you negotiate or you quit. With RO being a hobby, and I cannot emphasize that enough, there's no reason that you should be stealing a server to make a point. It's painfully obvious that this entire play was done to just cut out/screw over Syphon for perceived injustices without a care in the world for how this guy was going to live/survive without the income from this server. His own s*** decision-making aside, the server was already dwindling and dying off, so the appropriate move would have been to create a new server, with all your hard work built into it, because the players would know that if they want good content, they need to follow the good people who created that content. And that would be a wake-up call for Syphon to get his act together or forever lose his cash cow. All in all, I genuinely believe that there's no way you can support the decision made by Ancyker & Co. without feeling incredibly scummy inside, and for those GMs who sided with Ancyker, shame on you. This decision was pathetic and if you really feel like it was the right thing to do, you should probably reassess your priorities in your own life, because there's no way I would want anything to do with you if that's really how you feel.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: RebirthOfficial on Dec 27, 2017, 10:22 PM
Ok, I was going to let this thread just go but people brought up questions/points I didn't cover in my original post so I will make one last reply.

Syphon was not kicked out so we could take money for ourselves. If I wanted to take RebirthRO for money I would have taken it when it was making 80k euro a month. Syphon was gone on vacation for months at a time back then, he would never have noticed until we were gone, but I didn't. Why? I never cared what he spent the excess cash on. I suggested a few times that he invest some of it in other sources of income but he didn't think he needed to, always saying he'd do it later. Whatever, that was his choice. The server itself was fine, we had our good hosting, our content was being paid for, so none of us gave a s*** what he spent the excess on.

Fast forward to the last few years and it's a completely different picture. Syphon has been cutting the servers budget to be able to maintain his rich lifestyle. He's still trying to live like he makes 80k euro a month. He gambles most of the money away and expects players to donate more for less. He wanted to cut our sprite budget so he could keep more money (what exactly do we keep players paying for then, idk). He was then trying to cut our dev budget, saying that the server was dying so there was no point in putting any money into it.

Yes, I could have run a backup, started up a new server and said hey come over here and play this server. What would that have done? I'll tell you exactly what that have done: Killed RebirthRO and the new server would never grow. Period. Most of you server owners are suggesting it because it's exactly what you want. RRO dies, you get the players. So just go screw yourselves.

Most of the players have no idea about any of the internal workings of the server. They don't know what we know, and you still don't know everything we know. I'm holding back because it is not my goal to trash Syphon. What I've revealed is just the tip of the ice burg. This isn't about us getting money, it's about the server getting the money. I'm taking the same pay I always have, the rest is being spent on the server. I've already ordered us new hosting and new hardware. I've already contacted additional devs and artists and am getting them set up so they can start producing content for us. You're talking about about staff pay as a reason the GM's came with me, except the only person that will get paid is Phoenix because she's an admin and she didn't know that she would be getting paid until after she agreed. We never had a problem with Syphon taking the excess, it's when he started sacrificing the quality of the server for his own gain that we took issue. He sucks at handling money, he thinks he can just cut out our funding and later on it will go up and he can restore it. He doesn't understand the concept of you have to spend money to make money. His decisions are directly responsible for the current poor state of the server.

Do you still think I just wanted the money? Go read the screenshots I posted, the screenshots of the rest of the conversation with Syphon that he cut off. I offered to give him all the excess income from the server, I said I was going to take the same pay I was and spend the money on the server for things the server needed to grow and I would send him the rest. He refused that deal. He knew I wouldn't let him be greedy anymore, so it wasn't acceptable terms.

As the admin for over a decade I felt a responsibility to the players to protect their investments, be it time, money, or both. Afterall, I'm the one that told them to donate. I'm the one they saw encouraging them that it was fine when I knew the state of things that Syphon was forcing us into. My responsibility is to the players, I had to live up to what I promised them. In the end, I had to choose between watching the server die a slow death or trying to liberate it from the person keeping it down.

I may have made mistakes in the past, sure. Who can honestly look back on their past and regret nothing? The difference is I look back at my past and I'm ashamed. Syphon looks back and the only thing he regrets is the drug use. He still wastes money on gambling, vacations and taking his girlfriend places. He's learned nothing about managing money. I regret that the course of events lead to these actions, but based on the available choices this seemed to be the best chance at keeping the server alive in the long term. All other scenarios I could come up with had an extremely high chance of just killing the server, the opposite of what we wanted. We needed a clean split that Syphon could not recover from because there are just too many uninformed players that would think he was in the right simply because he had the title "owner." You know, I still call myself an admin. Do you want to know why? I'm so used to Syphon being the owner that I see him as what an owner is and I never want to be that. I never want to be what he was. He's tainted the word owner in my eyes forever.

That's all I'm saying on here, I'm done. If you are a player and wish to speak with me about any concerns you have you can contact me on Discord. If you play another server or own another server I really don't give a flying f*ck about your extremely biased opinion as you would directly benefit from the downfall of RebirthRO.

P.S. The first maintenance since the takeover was not to add donates. There has not been a maintenance since the takeover. Syphon found out only a week ago. So saying "our first maintenance was to add donates" is factually incorrect as we have not had the first maintenance yet.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Ariasqt on Dec 27, 2017, 11:46 PM
As an outsider, all I can say is that I am happy that i never 'set a foot' in this server.

To the thief:
I hope this server dies off quickly, theft is theft, there is no justification in what you did. If you didn't like how he handled his server, make your own. I'm sure the staff would have followed if they even joined such a trashy way of stealing the server. If you say it would have died if it was made anew that means either that your new server was not significantly better or the old server wasn't bad enough for people to quit.

Another important thing is... I do not see how the owner's real life situation nor how he spends his money is of any relevance. It's his business not yours no matter how s*** he is.

All of those things have been said already but for some reason you do not understand that you are in the wrong. No matter how scummy the old owner was/is the GMs AND players decided to stay in the  by themselves they could always quit and as suggested the staff could just make their own server together with you.

On a side note: It's pretty pathetic to ask for donations from your players like you said you did.

With this thread being open, the server is sure to die anyway (it's been a sinking ship for a while and changing owners won't stop it from dying) and I feel sorry for all the players who wasted their precious time and money on there. At the same time though I hope you (new owner) will actually stop being so delusional to yourself it might help you later on in life after 'your' RO server died and if you actually can say that what you did was justified and for the best you might... want to visit a specialist because then something is really wrong somewhere in your head.

For the old owner: You did kind of deserve this s*** and yet it wasn't the right thing to do. Your players themselves should have realized that your server is not a server worth spending time on and with the effort you spent on it (it seems like none in the end) all the money you got from your random kid players with their parents' credit card wasn't deserved, I hope you realize that you deserve your current situation.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Alivraal on Dec 28, 2017, 02:22 AM
Tbh as an old player who got banned for killing Ancy on his GM char on pvp back in his days a few times until my account was deleted and over 3k euros donated I most admit this is quite the show it's being thrown in here, the player base has been rarely the concern on the server (Look at how they let Eir die, be reopened and have no work on it)

Although I gotta admit that sure, as Ancy said, Syphon was rarely on as a GM and if he was it was some sort of bot message that was thrown as a GM message and disappeared for the rest of the year

And I still keep getting emails from them every now and then with my account being non existent lol.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: suhdude on Dec 28, 2017, 07:48 PM
Both corrupt af anyway, so its useless to argue about this issue now and server is half dead.
But hey, RebirthRO will always have a special place in my heart.  /lv
So... I will have to play both their server. /heh cut the drama /gg
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Ariasqt on Dec 29, 2017, 02:23 PM
Both corrupt af anyway, so its useless to argue about this issue now and server is half dead.
So... I will have to play both their server. /heh cut the drama  /gg

Do yourself a favour and don't do that  /heh
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Georges IV on Dec 31, 2017, 12:45 AM
Who ever makes the server better win.  /ho
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Nahmei on Dec 31, 2017, 05:49 AM
They're both corrupted, this is not surprising at all.  /heh
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Miller on Dec 31, 2017, 06:13 AM
Happy new year y'all
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: DASTGIR[ on Jan 03, 2018, 02:31 AM
So, I was supposed to not look back into this topic after my last post, but there's many things that influenced me to do so. I would try to give some facts and answers to every questions and allegations that has been posted till now.
Also, sorry, the post can be long enough to get you bored/excited/(maybe?)angry.

#1

Let's be honest Syphon.. What have you ever done that's beneficial to the server? The only thing you did as an owner is advertise the server. Not to mention when you paid admins, you paid them under minimum wage to work for you whilst you went out spending the majority of your earned income on gambling, then claiming you were too broke to add more contribution funds to keep the server healthy.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/jgr09t.png)

Well, Great, when did syphon do this? year ago? 2 year ago?
Here's your beloved Ancyker playing PokerStars for more than 6 hours straight on 29 December(After the so-called coup).
https://imgur.com/9FSdQe6 (https://imgur.com/9FSdQe6)
https://imgur.com/M42fxqD (https://imgur.com/M42fxqD)
You still believe server owners pay more than minimum wage? Come on, grow up. Tell me a server which pays as high as rebirthRO used to pay. This isn't a company but a PRIVATE server.

I mean as an owner, not once have you actually cared for the community of the server during the past at least 10 years. All you came online for was to announce 'write a review for RMS!' every 10-15 minutes which your staff did for you after every hosted event anyways. As for not caring about the community. This is the sort of behaviour that would be used on the main chat.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/1040sp0.png)
I can't comment on this without knowing the full context, as to why that was been told, also again, without anything to claim it was actually syphon, since you haven't told when it happen? maybe could be after hijack? to show him bad? ButI don't deny

I was a GM of this server around 2014-2015. During this time most things were declining. The lack of staff co-operation, Syphon nowhere to be seen; no communication to any of the staff, not even the admins. Unless it was to do with income going down you wouldn't see him anywhere, not even in the staff group (that he was in). The current 'voluntary staff' (GM's) were left to manage players reports, help desk, events etc. And on top of this the 2 GM's that were available could not even do half of these because we weren't high enough account level to deal with item returns, or point related issues as these required a 'higher-up' which were nowhere to be seen. (At this time Ancyker only dealt with website related issues, Sen went MIA for the most part, Syphon didn't even log in). And it backed up everything and caused people to leave due to the fact we simply didn't have any power to deal with their requests.
I agree, Syphon wasn't there in game, but that doesn't mean he wasn't there in backend. If you see the changes in server files, they were  done by quite a few developers (out-sourced) and syphon was taking care of it, giving task and assigning few issues here and there.

Syphon doesn't even care for his staff, so anyone working for him on the 'new server' I do truly feel bad for you.  /ok
/ok, sounds nice that you feel bad for someone..

#2

Morally I feel Syphon is in the right, he made the server and hired the people who managed it better than he ever could. Even with everything on the table there was no reason for any of the sketchy, underhanded crap that got pulled. La Révolution Francaise this is not.

If the staff was unhappy with the state of things they should have simply left and made their own server, this looks more like a play for the established income than anything to me.
Even I feel the same, syphon tried whatever he could, if someone is unhappy, leave syphon alone, and see how it handles.

Edit: And now Ancyker appears to be asking people to file fraudulent chargebacks for the last six months and re-donate to him instead. Incitation to commit a crime after all that .. Eessh.
This deserves to be in Hall of Shame. (would not matter, since Ancyker is already listed there).

#3

If you don't like the the owner, why not just leave and make your own. You can get the remaining players to play on your server. BS reason. That's basically stealing coz you know the server is earning alot of cash. And for the owner, hope you learn your lesson now. This would not happen if you care for your server. RIP

Absolutely, my theory in this is, Ancyker saw income on this server, and just stole it, but there has been some questions raised by some players about this theory.
Why Ancyker didn't do it before?
-> Remember? Syphon and Ancyker were friends from years? maybe ancyker was not feeling it morally correct?
Also most of old staff were against ancyker

#4

And maybe the staff member get a share of the income? Which is probably why they side with him.
I will get back to this at end of topic, it's whole awesome story.

#5

seems kind of like the 2016 US election, choose which s*** is less s***. :)
And the more s*** just rigged(stole) the elections(server).

#6

I BLAME Syphon tbh for being so kind and trust this worm Ancyker, godamn so low, I read the "hijacked server changelogs", LOL, the first CHANGELOGS after the hijack was "ADDED NEW DONATION ITEMS" ;D ;D ;D
First maint, after syphon fired, but before syphon got to know about this, would cover more on this later on end of post.

Like many said, IF THEY didn't like Syphon etc, they could just LEAVE the team and start their own server.
THIEVES are THIEVES, CRIME is a CRIME, this is a SHAME of Ragnarok Online Private server world / community.
To Everyone saying GM's should be paid from start, Remember, GM's are volunteer work, and some are hired and mentioned before they start that they would be paid.
Also Crime once done cannot be denied.


#7
You say it like it's easy for the Dev Team to just make an entirely new server but how about the Players who put a lot of time and hardwork farming the things, spent and donated to the server, supporting it so that it can be around for a LONG TIME in the future?
As he already decided to steal the server, we mentioned that he could have used the stolen server and DB, without actually trying to destroy the servers(Machines) that syphon owned. Attempt to destroy the server(machines) made the matter worst.
Ancyker already had Emulator Files, DB, he could have used them to make a exact clone of RebirthRO, and take all HIS staff with him, leave Syphon alone, and let syphon's server die. That way, YOU as a player would see no change, as it happened now (Ancyker changed IP via patch), and would have not even resulted in losing even 1 of your item. So absolutely nothing would matter from player's perspective in this case.

How about the Players who ACTUALLY FUND THE SERVER???
Server's Actually term those as DONATION, better google up what donation means. They were funding for servers, developers, sprites. but wasn't the question about ancyker stole the server?

We lost SO MANY PLAYERS because of all the bs that's been happening in RebirthRO. Can't put the entire blame on Syphon but he is still the Owner
Some Product launch fails terribly, you blame the CEO?

On one hand, he leaves the entire development of the game to the Dev Team.
I guess that's what owner is supposed to do, hire dev team, assign them issues(he did) and leave support for support team(GM's)

On the other hand, that also means that if our Admin is corrupt, almost every GM that is hired by said Admin is also corrupted in some way or another.
so All current staff is also corrupt? Stealing means corruption, and you know who stole what..


Just because the screenshots have no dates on them does not make him any better
It actually does. No dates or other supporting those means they can be easily photoshopped.

Players are the most affected by this outcome.
Agree, Players are most affected, this shouldn't be the outcome, instead the staff should have sorted out the stuff internally.


OVH gave South East Asians TERRIBLE PING (around 100-300 ping depending on region and quality of our ISP).
100 is not terrible, 300 is. California was no good for South East Asians too (I live in Asia).
I would leave the hosting topic here, and would not discuss, feel free to play new rebirthRO(Ancy's) when they are done moving to california.


Let's be real. If you're the Owner of a Server, your interests should lie in helping the Server grow.
You can't say syphon didn't do anything, as mentioned hundreds of time before, he was managing from backend, and not by being online in game most of times, to show that "ya, I am doind alot of work.".


even refusing to pay Devs for long periods of time, preferring to just insist they are volunteers who need no pay.
They indeed were not told that they would be paid. So they agreed. but let me clear here, Devs = In game GM's here. Other hired devs who were not GM and had done the developing work were paid, in proper time and as they were promised.

This was what happened to Phoenix who has been volunteering her services for a little over 2 YEARS with no pay and revealed that she would've left the server if her situation does not improve. She is the BEST Dev we ever had in a long time and if she left, our RebirthRO server would've been officially doomed.
I won't reveal all of Phoenix dirty tricks. She isn't BEST Dev, if she had left, it would have been much better and clean RebirthRO. She stayed because she knew where this was going(my assumption). I would really like to show her codes to you, which are no way efficient, and she managed only script, not source. so that doesn't even qualify as Dev, let alone the BEST. I recently have gone through some of her codes, and by just checking it, anyone can tell that it's size can reduce to 10x-50x and can be optimized to run alot faster. (she wrote 100 lines of code, which could be done in 4-5 lines, Date: November-December 2017, so it's recent skill of her).

making the good Devs leave the server just so he can maximize his own gains, then I suggest if you EVER make a server in future, Don't.
Well, I suggest, you don't make a server, if you call Good Devs, without even knowing who all were working and who all were good(Above answer claims that phoenix was not BEST, instead WORST).

Just admit the fact that Players will never jump ship just because we don't like 1 Dev or the Owner but we WILL jump ship if our gaming quality is affected TERRIBLY.
I hope your gaming quality isn't affected after switching to california host, and syphon's server will be free from you.

#8

RRO website stated that "Once a payment has been processed through the website, it becomes property of Rebirth B.V." So how Syphon(OWNER) spend the money is really non of our business, as long as he keeps the server running, which he did. Oh boy, you're delusional if you think Ancy won't use the funds for himself.
Quite true, but there were many expenses of Server which Syphon was handling, advertisement too cost thousands of $. I would agree with all of the claims that were posted by ishizue, if (s)he can prove Ancy won't use even single fund for him.

#9
its like gambling with a .000001% chance of success. /heh /heh. Lets face it its easier to steal it than to coax the playerbase to go to him. Im basing this from my experience when i was in rro.
True, and then brainwash the players? /heh

#10
he alienated all the old staff until they quit and replaced them with his girlfriends and friends, of course they would support him in any endeavor he undertakes.
Not true, more on this at end of post. It was worst than this.

#11
I don't see why people are complaining about the staff wanting to be paid for using up their time to work on the server?? I mean, would you want to go into your job every day and not get paid for the work you put in? And to be treated like donkey for it on top of that by your boss? I don't really think you would.
Please Note, Staff were hired by Ancyker, Devs(Not GM) were hired by Syphon, exception is phoenix(who is scripter and admin currently.)
So question is, if you agreed to work without being paid, why complain later? Let's assume they later got their brains and thought now they should get paid, ok agreed, but after complaining and not getting paid, they still continued to work? Isn't that more like donkey, and they were treating themself like donkey, and not the Staff (and as said, boss for Staff was Ancyker, and for Dev(NonGM) was syphon).

But it sounds like Syphon only did part of this,
So you are mentioning that in 10+ years of RebirthRO, syphon only did part of new contents and all? and everything else that is currently in RebirthRO just came out of magic?

I was basically hired by one of the admins to do artwork for the website because syphon hired someone that used copywritten artworks for the main site. The site was since moved, and we are working on getting new artwork to avoid the DMCA claims. Syphon didn't even seem to care about those in the first place.
You were hired by *one* of the admins, since you claim admin, I suppose ancyker(no other were given the so-called admin title). So isn't that obvious that who hired would care more? Syphon was clearly having no interest in maintaining website work according to me, from what I have observed.

Sure, you just want the product you're purchasing,but what if the item you purchased suddenly disappeared from your inventory without you knowing why,
Had that ever happened? NO. If that would have happened, I too would be surely against syphon. Also, when you give money to server, they clearly term it as DONATION and not as purchase to specific item. It's whole different situation that you get donation credits.

So, turning a blind eye to this actually allows him to continue to do fraudulent things, and essentially steal from players and possibly even you, without some of them perhaps noticing or knowing how to deal with it.
As Mentioned above, that never happened.
what's worst is STEAL PLAYERS which is what ancyker did and it happened.
So you justified that stealing server by ancyker is good(which happened), but stealing from players is bad(WHICH NEVER HAPPENED).
Ok, got it. no more useless talks with you.

#12
I agree with whatever  jacobo_bobo said and already explained it above.

#13
Syphon was not kicked out so we could take money for ourselves. If I wanted to take RebirthRO for money I would have taken it when it was making 80k euro a month.
Explained some above, and would be in detail at end of post.

He gambles most of the money away and expects players to donate more for less.
It's his personal life, we can't be sure you don't gamble?
Yes, I could have run a backup, started up a new server and said hey come over here and play this server. What would that have done?
You could have put IP on patch, as you did now, and let syphon live with his died server.
Most of you server owners are suggesting it because it's exactly what you want. RRO dies, you get the players. So just go screw yourselves.
Truth always hurt. So Someone supporting the truth is actually doing for their own good? maybe, but truth cannot be denied. So Everyone, "go screw yourself" is attitude of new admin to whomsoever is against him /heh
This isn't about us getting money, it's about the server getting the money.
Paypal wasn't even going to syphon, it was all on yours since last 6 months(now 7) I guess.
As the admin for over a decade I felt a responsibility to the players to protect their investments, be it time, money, or both. Afterall, I'm the one that told them to donate.
So good, you wanted to protect investment, but by stealing? and destroying other server? Isn't is same as DDoS'ing other server to get their players?

Additionally, Some people makes mistake in past, but do their characters change? Never.


P.S. The first maintenance since the takeover was not to add donates. There has not been a maintenance since the takeover.
Would come on this later.

Lastly.
As many of you are too interested to link pServer to company. Would you leave,continue or steal the company if owner is s*** according to you?

Continued..
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: DASTGIR[ on Jan 03, 2018, 02:31 AM
Some of things that I have been asked and been told since my first post.
1) Phoenix was Admin from start of the server.
Phoenix was GM (https://wiki.rebirth.ro/w/index.php?title=Staff&diff=24046&oldid=23920), Promoted to Senior GM last year (Dec 2016), which he himself edited, and then he himself edited wiki to change his position to Admin around May 2017.

2) Phoenix is the BEST dev that rRO could ever have?
Wrong, Phoenix is literally not the best dev. PM me and I could send you some of the snippets.

3) Why staff sides Ancyker?
https://wiki.rebirth.ro/w/index.php?title=Staff&diff=23420&oldid=23345 / https://wiki.rebirth.ro/w/index.php?title=Staff&diff=23432&oldid=23421 / https://wiki.rebirth.ro/w/index.php?title=Staff&diff=23421&oldid=23420 (Many More).
See? Every old staff were removed, for what? because they were against ancyker, and were doing some sort of protest or something, then they were fired, and some left on their own decision because of some s*** going on there.
and new staff were hired by ancyker. (This happened when they moved to new forum)

4) First (so-called) Maintenance after syphon knew he was fired? (Bugs/Crashes)
As per claimed Above by RebirthOfficial(Ancy), there has not been a maintenance since the takeover(till last week), ok Agreed.
Maintenance occured last week, which was supposed to be first maintenance according to ancyker. Which was filled with TONS of new items and maps (~200MB Patch), which was poorly managed, and resulted in client crashes

5) There has been fake online player counts (increasing by 150 TO BE EXACT), after the takeoever. PM/Discord for proof.

6) Server Owners with syphon?
Who wants to be with the guilty? Only the brainwashed people.

7) Ancyker/someone else recently told that if he took the money, why he asking for fundraiser for server parts?
It's simple, no money to be taken out from the money stolen.

8 ) Trying to destroy the other server was the worst thing that I could expect, (after the server stealing).

9) https://community.rebirth.ro/topic/994-android-client-news/ : I would share some of my views to it, so he shared this without even confirming from the owner of andRO, so you can get idea of how he does "act before thinking".

10) someone mentioned(with screenshot) that syphon rented 6$ vps, but if you see the immediate message after that, it clearly mentioned for small group of testers to test the connection speed and performance, so server can be upgraded.

Again, Sorry for long post (I might have been distracted and not wrote some things in detail, let me know and I would tell my views and facts on those topics). I couldn't fit something in the post, and might have forgot some other details that I knew.

At the end, whatever happened was saddening, a Long trusted friend betrayal is something that one should never go through, and I wish no one gets friend who would betray.
That's my thought in this whole matter.

Happy New Year! and Be Happy!
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Fraterna on Jan 03, 2018, 08:45 AM
oh well, this topic so made my day.

rounded down: two baddies blaming each other who's the bigger baddie over who "owns" something they don't really own.

hilarious.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: ieattomatoes on Jan 03, 2018, 11:46 PM
lol this server ended on 2014  /heh how can you guys still play on this server /omg
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: WhiteBoyDaquan on Jan 05, 2018, 06:07 AM
Server died when Lux's ego got too big and his Gm team was honestly trash when they decided to add custom content to their benefits which lead to Ancyker getting his job back?? ? Lul IMO players who are apart of big guilds shouldn't be allowed to be Gm because it clouds their judgement and everything goes to s***.  So yea 2014 it was.

Syphon did this to himself tbh, gave the white man too much power. Being white myself, I know this.

Everyone who is saying Ancyker is right must be on something. The guy is litterally the most corrupt person ever to touch Ragnarok Online. Litterally hired his ex GF now GF(Destiny) or GM peach or whatever she goes by now onto the server and everything she touched went to hell. I thought the saying was "Once you go black you don't go back" (@Devin&Warrage inside joke lul). How can someone be Gm with 0 knowledge of the game .

The last thing I wanted to add is that Ancyker finally chose to blamed Syphon for the servers struggle about a year later after the Old staff left which was lead by Lux. He couldn't blame them anymore for the servers struggle so he had to find someone else to blame, anyone but himself. Why did he wait a whole year after the old staff left to steal the server when right there and then he could of done it with ease. With the almighty Admin back as lead, he probably thought he could fix rRo and bring it back to its glory days, but now realizing the server is dead, he is probably trying to milk it. I give it a couple of month before it is truly dead, not that its even active enough to consider playing anymore. Asking for chargebacks and "asking" for any donations possible for a new "host". How low can one get.

-From a player who was there for Ancyker first reign as Corrupt Admin to his yet again reign of Corrupt Admin. The full circle(I made it !) Hope the stolen server dies.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Nova on Jan 06, 2018, 10:55 AM
Server died when Lux's ego got too big and his Gm team was honestly trash when they decided to add custom content to their benefits which lead to Ancyker getting his job back?? ? Lul IMO players who are apart of big guilds shouldn't be allowed to be Gm because it clouds their judgement and everything goes to s***.  So yea 2014 it was.

Syphon did this to himself tbh, gave the white man too much power. Being white myself, I know this.

Everyone who is saying Ancyker is right must be on something. The guy is litterally the most corrupt person ever to touch Ragnarok Online. Litterally hired his ex GF now GF(Destiny) or GM peach or whatever she goes by now onto the server and everything she touched went to hell. I thought the saying was "Once you go black you don't go back" (@Devin&Warrage inside joke lul). How can someone be Gm with 0 knowledge of the game .

The last thing I wanted to add is that Ancyker finally chose to blamed Syphon for the servers struggle about a year later after the Old staff left which was lead by Lux. He couldn't blame them anymore for the servers struggle so he had to find someone else to blame, anyone but himself. Why did he wait a whole year after the old staff left to steal the server when right there and then he could of done it with ease. With the almighty Admin back as lead, he probably thought he could fix rRo and bring it back to its glory days, but now realizing the server is dead, he is probably trying to milk it. I give it a couple of month before it is truly dead, not that its even active enough to consider playing anymore. Asking for chargebacks and "asking" for any donations possible for a new "host". How low can one get.

-From a player who was there for Ancyker first reign as Corrupt Admin to his yet again reign of Corrupt Admin. The full circle(I made it !) Hope the stolen server dies.

literally neck yourself self-hating degenerate fgt
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 06, 2018, 03:10 PM
Greetings RateMyServer community,

To be honest it does not matter to me whom is on whom side.
I want to explain what we are doing now!
At the moment I am working to revive RebirthRO, and to be honest this is the perfect opportunity.
Bad events can always be the reason why new beautiful things get created.
And this can be our perfect chance, currently at the moment we are working on rewriting old code and systems was the reason behind software lag, causing lag spikes.
Not that only, we've changed our servers hosting location to ensure overall better connectivity to our Asian users.
We took the chance of our server’s temporary shutdown to look over all decisions and actions taken by previous management and code developers and so.
We are using what we came out with to improve our code quality, going over lot of bugs and issues and slowness previously existed in RRO.
Not that only, but we will also have new management vision to provide best player experience and gameplay.
Currently we're improving various systems, planning for new ones and improvements to old ones to make it more useful, make the gameplay more balanced and remove unbalanced content from the game, to make environment that encourage old and new players to play even further.
We did our best in this very tight schedule to get our servers up again, not just that but also to improve it, while other was pretty much spending time making memes! :)
We hope to see you at our re-launch and feel free to join our discord chat for communicating with us till then!
See you all on 15h of January 2018, and Happy New Year!

https://discord.gg/ccrBEvp (https://discord.gg/ccrBEvp)
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 14, 2018, 09:13 AM
Greetings Everyone,

We're extremely glad to announce the officail launch dates of RebirthRO Re-launch Server RevivalRO!

Game Server Launch: 15th Of January 2018 at 23:59:59 (GMT+2)

https://ragnarevival.com/

Discord Community : https://discord.gg/ccrBEvp
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Tomson on Jan 15, 2018, 01:02 AM
Greetings Everyone,

We're extremely glad to announce the officail launch dates of RebirthRO Re-launch Server RevivalRO!

Game Server Launch: 15th Of January 2018 at 23:59:59 (GMT+2)

https://ragnarevival.com/

Discord Community : https://discord.gg/ccrBEvp
You have a great webdesign also your server is running very smoothly there are currently no complications found with your server,Great work by you and your Team,All left is to wait for its launch in 14hours.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Yuzo on Jan 15, 2018, 08:20 AM
surely both Syphon and Anycker deserve Hall of Shame after this. in my opinion, only taking the server into account (and not the stupid stuff Syphon has done in real life), what Anycker did is worse. Stealing and corrupting the data....that's so low. FU Anycker, seriously. Time is something you can't give back and you took it away from a lot of people.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 15, 2018, 11:47 AM
You have a great webdesign also your server is running very smoothly there are currently no complications found with your server,Great work by you and your Team,All left is to wait for its launch in 14hours.

Thanks!
The new server release is coming
http://ragnarevival.com (http://ragnarevival.com)
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 15, 2018, 06:42 PM
Great launch Thanks for the support guys!

https://ragnarevival.com/ (https://ragnarevival.com/)

Enjoy

(http://rebirthro.com/images/screenLoki001.jpg)
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: IvoryMouse on Jan 16, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oh look. People fussing over already stolen content. Go figure. People seem to forget that we're still illegally operating private servers on a stolen source code/server files. So I guess hijacked works, yeah. But either way, this is quite entertaining.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 17, 2018, 12:14 AM
Oh look. People fussing over already stolen content. Go figure. People seem to forget that we're still illegally operating private servers on a stolen source code/server files. So I guess hijacked works, yeah. But either way, this is quite entertaining.

Yeah i would make fus to if i was on a stolen server /omg
RebirthRO was a good project i actualy want to thank Ancyker / BDO for stealing my server.
I will try to compensate the people that donated to me!
Im verry sorry for you guys that your stuck with Ancyker
RebirthRO was a dead end to much corruption and hate.
My new server https://ragnarevival.com/ has much more potential.
First day we hit 155 players online lets see what this day will bring us.
Good luck to Ancyker and rest of the staff best wishes for them!

Friendly Regards RevivalRO community
(http://ragnarevival.com/images/revival.jpg)

Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Inochi on Jan 17, 2018, 01:30 AM
can i get a tl;dr of whats going so far. 4 pages in......
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: SukiChii on Jan 17, 2018, 07:37 AM
Something something bad owner something staff hijacked server and re-released it something relaunch.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: rubie123 on Jan 17, 2018, 09:45 AM
So who won?  Ancyker or Syphon? /hmm
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 17, 2018, 10:13 AM
So who won?  Ancyker or Syphon? /hmm

There no winning or loseing!
I just want to provide a better community no lag and no disconnection with ancyker this was not possible
Well my server is growing rapidly right now old members are coming back.
We peaked 180 players today without any vendors online yet!
More will come to https://ragnarevival.com/ im sertain.
There always will be some ancyker fanboys but thats fine with me than my new community is not infected with them.
Fresh start New opportunities so im happy.

Regards
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 18, 2018, 07:20 PM
Hello

Im very happy to announce this!  /no1

No Vendors online yet!
-----------------
15 january players online peek 154 low point 55
16 january players online peek 179 low point 82
17 january players online peek 251 low point 105

http://ragnarevival.com/ (http://ragnarevival.com/)  /lv

Friendly Regards



Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: yC on Jan 18, 2018, 08:29 PM
While I give sympathy to this incident and am glad to see you are able to get on with rebuilding your server, I'll have to call off the daily self-promoting posts.

-- Any unnecessary status update or promotion related to your new server will be deleted below this point --
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 18, 2018, 10:28 PM
While I give sympathy to this incident and am glad to see you are able to get on with rebuilding your server, I'll have to call off the daily self-promoting posts.

-- Any unnecessary status update or promotion related to your new server will be deleted below this point --

Sorry Yc got little bit enthusiastic about the preformance forget about the updates from my server that was my last one!
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: SukiChii on Jan 18, 2018, 11:32 PM
Yeah sure let's go with that /...
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Arnkell on Jan 19, 2018, 06:10 PM
I just read the entire thread. I've been out of RO for years, only hanging around some server discord I decided to settle after I retired from RO for real, from all the 15 or something years of "playing" this game, and this's the most gold s*** I've read on RMS. This was much better than all the pinoyRO dramas.

It's literally the plot of Animal Farm.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 22, 2018, 06:26 PM
I just read the entire thread. I've been out of RO for years, only hanging around some server discord I decided to settle after I retired from RO for real, from all the 15 or something years of "playing" this game, and this's the most gold s*** I've read on RMS. This was much better than all the pinoyRO dramas.

It's literally the plot of Animal Farm.

Hi, I dont like what happend either, i dont like drama but this story should be told!

Regards
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: akihito on Jan 22, 2018, 07:59 PM
ancyker is still the old sneaky ancyker, a thief is always a thief
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Ariasqt on Jan 23, 2018, 04:49 AM
ancyker is still the old sneaky ancyker, a thief is always a thief

Quite unfriendly too. A few days ago in their discord, some newbie asked for information about the server or something before wanting to join and I believe and Ancyker refused to answer. Directly after the kid left and looked for another server, Ancyker literally called him a noob  /heh

What a guy.

I hope the kid found his/her way to a server with an actual admin.
Title: Re: RebirthRO Hijacked By Ancyker
Post by: Syphon on Jan 24, 2018, 05:16 PM
Quite unfriendly too. A few days ago in their discord, some newbie asked for information about the server or something before wanting to join and I believe and Ancyker refused to answer. Directly after the kid left and looked for another server, Ancyker literally called him a noob  /heh

What a guy.

I hope the kid found his/her way to a server with an actual admin.
ancyker is still the old sneaky ancyker, a thief is always a thief

Hello,

CloneRO is dying, CloneRO has been nicknamed for my old server by my players.
Our server is growing very fast at the moment there are a lot of new and old players.
I am happy with all the support I have received and hope that I will soon never hear the name Ancyker again.
I am also happy when he is once stopped lying and cheating because his abused my name. even place my company name on his website.

Regards