Re server without Re?

[Zerono]

Like many others, I don't really like Renewal. That doesn't mean I hate it... that I don't like 3rd, or that I couldn't get used to the new mechanics, but I simply prefer pre-Re, the RO I know. But now there are a lot of monsters, regions, items, etc, that pre-Re servers simply can't use anymore, without horribly unbalancing the server, making them "stuck" at... 13.2 (I think?).

I don't know if there are servers doing this already, in the extent I'm thinking, but why not Re without Re? Yay for new quests, yay for new monsters, yay for new dungeons, equips, items, and what not. But nay for Renewal mechanics.
I guess something like that shouldn't, and couldn't, be done by newbies, as some heavy re-balancing would be required, especially for some of the equipment and monsters, to make all the new stuff available. To integrate it into the "old" RO world. But for me that's the only logical step, aside from changing to Renewal, if you don't want to be stuck in the past.

What do you think about this?

And feel free to point me to servers who're trying to accomplish this, I'd love to check out their progress.
(This is not a server seeking post. I'm more interested in opinions, this is only a side note.)

[Triper]

I wouldn't say that it shouldn't and couldn't be made by newbies but should be done, for sure, by people with more then just experience from RO by playing by some months and say I'm pro just because I kill everybody in a high rate, more like having good common sense on judging what should be done[yes, no stupid things like that stupid two-hand spear with 2k weight from gravity that is freaking useless].

And me wants that too, they could even do that without the 3rd classes and just the mobs/items that would be already a win.

Items should be +/- easy, monsters is maybe the hard part but shouldn't be hard too since is mostly a copy +/- what is already done in the others and adapt to a next step, class adjust is the pain part since it asks for source edit and lot of testing and not everybody knows how to do that

[Zerono]

That's actually what I meant about newbies shouldn't do it. When newbies to p-servers, or even RO itself would try something like this (if they even finish it), there'd be a high risk it wouldn't turn out so well in terms of balance.
I guess items is the easy part. Monsters a bit harder, because of the changed formulas. 3rd would obviously be the hardest part, although it shouldn't be a priority in my opinion. Like you said, the new areas and monsters would already be nice. New classes is something one could start to work on once everything else perfect^^

[Randfeon]

but why not Re without Re? Yay for new quests, yay for new monsters, yay for new dungeons, equips, items, and what not. But nay for Renewal mechanics.

Because things would get pretty broken after some time, I guess. Remember pre-Renewal New World monsters with their 10k attack? Well, most likely everything from that onwards would get even higher attack, or if the owner simply didn't bother to change their stats, they'd give pitifully low EXP. And what about the equipment, how could people walk around with 130 DEF shields? Even the weapons could get a bit broken as well, I think.

tl;dr everything past Renewal was made specifically for Renewal (that's why 3rd classes are so insanely broken with pre-Re mechanics), so if you tried to just put them in a pre-Re environment they'd be way too unbalanced.

[Zerono]

I guess you missed what I was talking about, or stopped reading at that quote^^
Of course everything would have to be balanced, to work with the old RO. Renewal, being stuck, or use the renewal content with fixed stats. That's basically the 3 choices we have, but I didn't see anyone doing the last one yet. I'm not talking about 3rd here, but mainly items and monsters for now. Balancing 3rd classes... is more or less impossible anyway. There's a reason why RO was turned upside down for them after all xD"