Ragnarok-Online.org

[Scereye]

I just lmao

http://wiki.roorg.net/start?rev=1275518884

[DarkDevine]

I just lmao

http://wiki.roorg.net/start?rev=1275518884

For non-german speakers:
It's the title-song of a very old TV show for children called "Wickie der Wikinger" (Wickie the Viking)

[Raguel]

Interesting. I'll definitly try this server once it's released.

[l2ue]

This reminds me of that one server. They had a custom client, server, always up-to-date, has an entire team of programmers, artist, and executives. And the best part is that they have been around for as long as RO has and have over thousands of players everyday. Its free to play and its legal as well.

Now what was that server called again? Was the team chinese or japanese or something?

[Chuck]

So wait, it's not opening at August 1? At least update the website please. :/

[DarkDevine]

I'm sorry for not having any information, I'm working the whole day and spend my spare time with my girlfriend, I didn't get any information regarding ROorg for months now because I'm just not active.

I'll try to get to talk to Sirius_Black.
Posted on: Jul 27, 2010, 08:44 pmStatement released, read http://roorg.net/ for more information

[Scereye]

Push for Information

Im still looking forward to roorg

[Ruchi]

As am I.
I'm going cold-turkey from RO untill this server is out. It will get me motivated as hell. Now all i need to think about is what to play as a main char... Any suggestions? (I played all chars as a main allready.)

[Sarin]

For a while, I thought I might join there...this stopped me:

We will allow you to transfer your existing Characters from other Offical Servers, such as Euro and iRO to us.

Starting along with kafrashopped and god-geared characters? No thanks.

[DarkDevine]

There might be a misunderstanding, but there will be no way to receive stuff like high-level gears and kafra shop items via the char transfer by ROorg.

I don't know the complete process of the char-transfer yet, though I heard, that only a part of your work can (or will) be transfered to the ROorg servers.

e.g. if you got a 99/70 Champion on iRO having 5m Zeny, god-like items and MvP cards, all you'd get are e.g. a level 70 Monk where your stats and skills are free allocatable as well as some zeny in return, e.g. a total of 1.5 m.
Some important items can be received, I think stuff like a Raydric card could be okay, but there will be no transactions, that might unbalance players regarding the people that didn't transfer their chars from a previous server.

I'll try to let Sirius_Black write a little information regarding the char transfer soon.
Posted on: Aug 18, 2010, 08:32 pmhttp://www.euro-ro.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=18751&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=310

You can google translate this thread regarding euRO's close and some statements of Sirius_Black regarding ROorg.

In a nutshell, in his last post he says, that there will be no complete char-transfer.
He's still thinking about what exactly will be transfered, yet sure is, that there will be something like a hall of fame and a bonus, like a special starter kit, for transfered chars. The worth of this bonus depends on the progress of your character that was transfered.
More than that he'll try to back-up, especially euRO, characters for further projects so that nothing of your char will be lost, even if the official servers go down.

You might ask how he plans to get the data of the characters, he already got a solution that he's not publishing yet and I'm not allowed to release information regarding it, with the fact, that he'll not need database access or even the approval of official servers.


Anyways, I've talked to him in TS just now and the progress of ROorg seems to be fine, nothing to worry about, the project is up and running.

[Sarin]

Transfer (actually not transfer, but copying) chars without database access? That's either "gimme your pass" or "meet ya ingame" way...I don't even think of "post a screenie" way, since it's too easy to fake...

Either way, I don't like it.

[DarkDevine]

You don't have to like it, but please don't think bad about this project until it is out and there are reasons to give why you don't like it. Just nothing is sure yet and through our server-engine and client we have an incredible dynamic setup and features.

I can't stress one point enough:
This server will be official-like, but it will not be comparable to any RO experience you got yet.
This starts at the completely customizable user interface via lua and ends with rates, episodes and features that are not there to just be "modified", but there to fill the gaps and holes of the current Ragnarok Online.

Make sure to at least give it a shot and then create your final opinion once it is released.

[Kaezar]

I can't stress one point enough:
This server will be official-like, but it will not be comparable to any RO experience you got yet.
This starts at the completely customizable user interface via lua and ends with rates, episodes and features that are not there to just be "modified", but there to fill the gaps and holes of the current Ragnarok Online.

Like Sarin, I have my pre-opening reservations about ROorg, but in a different way. Official-like? Incomparable RO experience? Fill gaps and holes of current RO? The development team first made a very bold opening date announcement of August 1, and was moved to October (I think). PR is horrible (well, if this thread can even be considered "PR"/exposure). Even a member of the team, yourself, does not know enough details of the project especially with regard to development status. Etc etc. Yes, I know life interferes, but if a team makes such hopeful, amazing, future-of-RO claims, one would expect it to at least deliver.

In a nutshell, I think the team is too ambitious (customizable everything? won't get into trouble with Gravity? can transfer official characters?) yet seemingly does not have the drive necessary to turn lofty ideas into reality on deadlines they themselves set for the project.

I hope I'm wrong, but it does sound like every other "hey this idea can make my server GREAT"... but lacked in the implementation aspect / was not followed up properly. All of this is just my opinion, by the way; I hope I'm allowed at least that. I will nevertheless loosely follow the developments of this project, and may even support it when if it is actualized.

[DarkDevine]

Actually the ROorg project was planned over 3 years by Sirius_Black and since then he's working on it constantly.

The release date was moved because of missing help of Sirius_White, which can be referred back to his real-life problems that can be found in this boards regarding his Harmony bot protection as well as because of the idea to even write an own client.


I could explain more and more, but actually it doesn't make any sense.
All information I am allowed to tell you are written here among this thread, everything else is yet to be kept a secret, though you will surely get those informations soon or realize it by yourself.
Like I said a few posts before, this thread had its purpose, information is there.

If you believe in this project, if you join it in october, if you trust in the work of the ROorg developers, that is up to you.
You don't have to love ROorg and we don't force you to.
Like I said, just make sure you try it once it is released. If you think it's a scam or something like that, just don't use your general password and personal data for registration. If you think it's all for money, paypal logs will be released on the website completely. If you just don't like it, quit it, we don't force you to play it. If you like it, welcome to ROorg and have a good time.


I'll keep this thread updated with newest information regarding ROorg, for anything else, please use the PM system, I'll answer your questions if you got any and explain completely.

Regards

[l2ue]

This is probably going to be the biggest future Hall of Shame thread in the history of RMS. Not that I care, but whatever is coming up seems very interesting.

And not that I know what the future is going to be like, but there are red flags shooting up everywhere.

1) Server emphasize on proper use of donation money.
- It obvious that some of the staff members work hard for the server, but what do they get in return? Hardware can be considered an asset which can be disburse when the server closes down. And they could take some of the donation money by reporting it under "professional services." Its not hard to figure out that anything that looks legitimate, can also be corrupt, for example, Bernie Madoff.
2) Lacking updates / content in FB, Twitter, and Wiki.
- There update post dates jump in months not weeks. Lack of special events and news usually isn't a good thing. If this is as big of deal as it has been advertise, it would get at least some community events or staff reporting.
3) Postpone released data due to personal problems already.
- Pretty much shows the dedication and the amount of work that the staff can't handle. They're are supposely working there asses off for no gain.
4) There advertisement thread has been on RMS for OVER +3 months.
- And it isn't surpising to know that DarkDevine is the marketer. Which is odd since he isn't even the thread starter.
5) Features and customs sounds TOO good to be true.
- Personally, I know how hard it is to developed a project of this scale, which means like most businesses. When work gets tough, they cut corners that can cost them big. Also, it takes years for a game to develop and months for beta.
6) Things such as "Press Release" are probably over-hype and low-profile.
- The words press release usually reminds you of the media in terms of news coverage or whatever. But looks to me like yet another overhype and low-profile server.
7) No one knows anything.
- An safe assumption.

I wonder how confident the staff is with there current project.