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Offline Imago Dei

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #30 on: Apr 11, 2008, 03:15 PM »
In my honest opinion, you should either run the game or play the game. But I don't think you should do both. I came from a server where one GM had a legit account. Everyone knew and seemed cool with it. Then people started questioning where he got a card. And I had noticed little things and I promptly reported him to the other GM who never played in game because he knew it would be questionable. Well nothing was done forever about this corrupt GM. Then many months later he was banned and all the evidence was on his account.
And maybe I've just been burned in the past, but I think with power comes a huge responsibility and I've seen so many people abuse this power. Even the lvl 3 GM's abused power, so that is why I say no legit accounts if you are a GM.
And also, just because a GM of a private server doesn't get paid officially, doesn't mean he doesn't get paid. ;) There is a little thing called donations.

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Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #31 on: Apr 11, 2008, 05:29 PM »
If you don't trust the GMs this much, don't join private servers.

Honestly, these people have access to high level commands and possibly the database itself. If they wanted to f*** around, they have one thousand ways to do it without even creating a character. So let them play.

And let them play Anonymously. Why? Putting OMG WHER U GOT DAT ITAM drama aside, GMs are player magnets, everyone runs to whine about most inane things to them. If it's known the GM has a legit character, he will probably spend half as much time dealing with people as he will actually playing.

Offline MrrgleCaek

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #32 on: Apr 11, 2008, 07:31 PM »
In my honest opinion, you should either run the game or play the game. But I don't think you should do both. I came from a server where one GM had a legit account. Everyone knew and seemed cool with it. Then people started questioning where he got a card. And I had noticed little things and I promptly reported him to the other GM who never played in game because he knew it would be questionable. Well nothing was done forever about this corrupt GM. Then many months later he was banned and all the evidence was on his account.
And maybe I've just been burned in the past, but I think with power comes a huge responsibility and I've seen so many people abuse this power. Even the lvl 3 GM's abused power, so that is why I say no legit accounts if you are a GM.
And also, just because a GM of a private server doesn't get paid officially, doesn't mean he doesn't get paid. ;) There is a little thing called donations.
What?! GMs get paid from donations?! And here I thought donation money was spent on paying the fees for hosting and internet costs...silly me. (That was sarcasm in case you missed that).
I'm gonna repeat myself again, don't assume that GMs are all the same friggen type of person. That GM "broke" rules big whoop, move on, stop fueling the E-drama plagued on private servers ~~;.
Sorry if I sound insulting but come on, this is the reason GMs need privacy in the first place, so they don't get pounded by inane zealot child-players to ruin their fun when they aren't GMing, it's not that hard to treat them like a normal player.

Offline Aryia

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #33 on: Apr 12, 2008, 03:06 PM »
Denia: Yes, GMs are entitled to privacy. However, it doesn't mean they should go ahead and lie to their friends about stuff that doesn't matter, and try to be corrupt.

Offline bulbasteve

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #34 on: Apr 12, 2008, 03:33 PM »
If you don't trust the GMs this much, don't join private servers.

What is with this assumption that keeps popping up that you need GMs? If they don't just GMs they should just join onr of the many private servers which do not do any moderation.

Shocking secret? It works perfectly fine.

Offline AceJay

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #35 on: Apr 13, 2008, 02:19 AM »
i think its the only way GM's should play~

i mean if a GM is gona make a char i say they really shouldn't be letting anyone know their char is a legit......
if they do let ppl know they have a legit it leads to ppl screaming corruption and a lot of other things >.<
They should not play.

If you're Leonheart from KeanFlow, f*** you, you owe me $300.

However I feel ONE HUDRED PERCENT that GMs and staff should not have legits.

I never did on the servers I GMed for, and not once was I involved in any drama.

Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #36 on: Apr 13, 2008, 03:16 AM »
What is with this assumption that keeps popping up that you need moderation in a competetive game full of 13-year old kids?

Obviously people must be just crazy

Offline Aris

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #37 on: Apr 13, 2008, 11:58 AM »
And let them play Anonymously. Why? Putting OMG WHER U GOT DAT ITAM drama aside, GMs are player magnets, everyone runs to whine about most inane things to them. If it's known the GM has a legit character, he will probably spend half as much time dealing with people as he will actually playing.
tell me about it... why i got a name change once on my legit. but people eventually just told others who i am so i didn't bother anymore...

and people asked why i have /exall on all the time. get a brain imo.
« Last Edit: Apr 13, 2008, 12:01 PM by Aris »

Offline Guest

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #38 on: Apr 13, 2008, 02:18 PM »
yesh i dun see wat the big deal is? so GM's have legits? as long as theres no corruption i see nothing wrong with it


the only prob is keeping it hidden from everyone else >.<

Offline MrrgleCaek

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #39 on: Apr 13, 2008, 02:33 PM »
Wow okay, this discussion seems like it's going in a loop with everyone's opposing views (including me), imo on this discussion...I will say that I don't agree that "GM" people should not have a "legit" character, however I can understand why people would not want a person to do so and I'll accept that. Bulbasteve's solution just seems like the other extreme to me...I could only see it appealing to those "GM-hunters" that suspect corruption with every single person branded the title GM; GMs have uses as to reloading scripts, ingame assistance for characters, and-well, the usual reason people probably told you. People misuse a GM account? Oh well, every system of government has been misused, but it's still around.
That's my final rant on this bloody discussion >_>.

Offline Lore

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #40 on: Jun 26, 2008, 09:41 AM »
In the iRO GM Rules of Conduct, i believe it states that no GM shall play in the same server he moderates. Wise decision no?

Offline Guest

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #41 on: Jun 26, 2008, 03:20 PM »
but the GM's on IRO get paid no? =P

Offline Lore

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #42 on: Jun 26, 2008, 03:37 PM »
I'm just saying its better not to play the server you run.

Too many problems can arise from players. Accusations, drama, etc. In the end, all it takes is one person accusing you of @item-ing something for the whole community to go into turmoil. Its tried and true.

And yea, i guess admins do have the right to play on the server they run but if they do, they sure as hell shouldnt tell anyone. eh?


Offline Guest

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #43 on: Jun 26, 2008, 03:41 PM »
true true i see your point there

and super true that they shouldn't tell anyone...
like one server i know the GM's characters and their legit characters basically have the same name only one doesn't have the GM min front of it....

thats something i highly disagree with.... if a GM's gona play on their own server they really really shouldn't tell everyone >.>

Offline Lore

Re: Privacy? Are GMs entitled to it as well?
« Reply #44 on: Jun 26, 2008, 03:53 PM »
true true i see your point there

and super true that they shouldn't tell anyone...
like one server i know the GM's characters and their legit characters basically have the same name only one doesn't have the GM min front of it....

thats something i highly disagree with.... if a GM's gona play on their own server they really really shouldn't tell everyone >.>

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