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Offline Calbee

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #150 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:36 pm »
Taiyou, either you're childish or just stupid. First off, Merah frauding should have nothing to do with the corruption behind Harken's methods of managing the server. Secondly, you randomly accuse me out of the air that I had helped him fraud, without any proof or any speculations, so how do you expect me to prove that I didn't? If you provided any sensible sort of argument then I'd be able to provide a counter. What if I just told everyone Harken does drugs too and uses server money for that. Can you disprove this fact? Do I have proof that he did it? No proof on both sides means he did? I do know a bit more about Harken's personal life, but I will not disclose any of it since it's a bit irrelevant to this case.

The method of detecting frauders was pretty much just having each of the sponsors send us an end of month statement showing all the fraudulent leads. I basically work off this to catch the more obvious ones, but for cases like Foxi, I needed help from the players to provide me with information. If you or anyone had seen that Merah was an obvious frauder, why did you not report it?

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Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #150 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:36 pm »

Offline Tsolless

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #151 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:38 pm »
So ad frauding was not as easy to catch as YOU said? You stumble over your own words Calbee... Don't say things that will bite you in the donkey.

Offline mster

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #152 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:38 pm »
To be perfectly frank, Calbee, you lost any support from me the moment you acted up like that. You were threatening, yes harassing the members, urging them to leave, which is the worst thing for THEM to do, when they're scattered all over the other various servers that happen to take advantage of the situation. You were trying to destroy the very community Debbie build, and the moment you tried that, you lost any credibility.

If you really wanted to help the server, you'd help getting things in the right track again, with all the players still ON aRO. Your announcements were, for the largest part, uncalled for - and your anonymity doesn't help either. Especially if you do such a big thing and claim to know the truth, stand by your name and don't abuse another GM for that. Look at your last posts here on RMS.net - the forum software offers a feature that allows you to see them - that's what your announcement should have looked like. Not your big rant threatening players and trying to damage the community Debbie has created.

Offline Taiyou

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #153 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:40 pm »
@ Ikoruso

The third point about Merah giving out botting programs is when Merah accused Kojimonk of botting Demon Goddess' account, and he said in the main-channel of IRC, that he had given him the botting software, and taught him how to use it, too.

Merah even said (ever so ironicly) that he then admited to the fact that it was a botting incident, and that he had lied a lot - this is no surprise - but not only did he tell us that kojimonk had botting software, and the know-how to use it, he also told us that he had distributed it to him. WHAMMY ~

Moving on...
When Merah admitted to botting, scamming and hacking, the one thing he always denied was ad frauding. Yes, there is proof - and sure, Therm can post it, too (I should pester him to do that). Why do you suppose he'd never mention AFing ? Most naturally because it would have comprimised any chance of a backstabbing attempt if there was suspicion placed on the GM who was corrupting the server with him.

Now, that was just a bit of a ride on the train of thought. Shall I await your reponse, potato-chip ?

Edits:
Ah, I prefer childish - to hold on to youth while I still have it.
Here is my argument, and you twit, if your proccess was so ugly and time-consuming, you couldn't have possibly been THAT effective. I must say, you see that record of Koji's ? That's what Therm has ALREADY developed (in the short time he's been in power) to make matters like ad frauding a simple task to eliminate.

What does it have to do with Harken's corruption ? Wait a sec - I meant to debase your holier-than-thou platform just enough for -YOU- to realize you're not convincing anyone. I didn't show you proof, but you assume I don't have any ? Granted, but I can try to get it - which isn't something you can do... otherwise I'd expect you'd be only too happy to show me.
« Last Edit: Mar 10, 2007, 04:50 pm by Taiyou »

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Offline Brenna

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #154 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:41 pm »
Tsolless, please don't be so ignorant, open up your eyes and read the 30+ posts in this board and you'll see why.

Brenna, true that GMs can ban whenever or whoever for whatever, which is exactly what Harken does. Why is it that Rince gets a ban the very first offence with no warning, whereas several other players were at fault like him, but received minor muting punishments? It is because Rince was once part of an anti-AnimaRO movement on RMS or not even part of, he just posted a few comments and Harken disliked him. Now, let's assume Harken really did think that Rince was a repeated offender. This has been brought up to Harken but Rince is STILL banned. It's because Harken is too prideful to admit he was in the wrong and unban.

I never boycotted tickets. Things fell apart as soon as Harken officially took over and moved over the servers. I was still around to help until the end of February. I never expected anyone to be on tickets 24/7, but guess what, Debbie did do tickets, at least a few times a week, might not be 10 hours a day, but her help was appreciated and helped keep the tickets cleared. Harken does NOT. That is the point. Forget 24 hours, he hasn't even done 1 hour in tickets before, ever! If you defend him here, you're just pulling random facts out because you do not work behind the scenes, you do not follow up on tickets, you did not get a chance to see the spend credit requests that were being ignored and not processed recently since paypal was set back up. The real money comes from the things sold in item shops, not services since it's only $5 for a name change. That's loose change for Harken, it doesn't match the Kaho's being sold in the shop.

So this is a feud between Debbie's family and Harken. Why should I not get involved when it was Harken who backstabbed MY friend. I am loyal to a friend, unlike him. Not to mention, the rest of the GMs are too, which is why they've all decided to bail once Harken decided to sit back and watch the money roll in. Sure, they might be busy with IRL stuff, but this is just another excuse.

who the heck gives a damn about Rince? Who was he anyway?? Why do you keep harping on about him? I don't care and, you know what, neither does the rest of the 99.9% or the server - honestly.

By your own admission you stopped doing tickets. This, after Debbie passed away. Therefore, YOU DID BOYCOTT them. Say what you want. This is YOUR fault more than anyone elses. As for tickets. You're not making any sense. First you say you purposefully didn't do tickets and now you want to blame Harken for not getting things done? Wait, is Harken expected to do everything hersef? I'm getting confused now...

Wow, you must think we find you admirable for wanting to risk going to jail for a friend who is no longer with us. Sorry. I don't buy it Calbee.


Offline Tsolless

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #155 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:42 pm »
Calbee that is another point... Would a true friend try and get everyone away from AnimaRO... Or would he fight for your friends side? Tell me this now... What was your rationalizing about that?

Offline Calbee

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #156 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:44 pm »
So was I supposed to let people know that you can pretty much get away with frauding if you tried? I had obviously tried to discourage frauding. If you noticed, fraud did reduce as a direct result from posting up the announcements.

Anyways, believe it or not. I did not do much to the server. Had I wanted to do severe damage, I had the /item command that could have given everyone hundreds of thousands of MvP cards, I could have given people thousands of ad credits to destroy it. The damage you see before you now is a direct result of what Harken is done, you just all had to open your eyes to it.

Offline Tsolless

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #157 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:47 pm »
What damage? Need to download a patch to play again... Oh noes! AnimaRO is going to die. You know as well as I do that /item and handing out ads would do very little. Rollback.

Offline Emeralda

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #158 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:49 pm »
I think it's kinda funny how both clans try to put blame on the other one~

Black and white are not the only possibilities. The truth lies beyond such reasoning.
« Last Edit: Mar 10, 2007, 07:17 pm by Emmie »

Offline Tsolless

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #159 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:49 pm »
So was I supposed to let people know that you can pretty much get away with frauding if you tried? I had obviously tried to discourage frauding. If you noticed, fraud did reduce as a direct result from posting up the announcements.

Anyways, believe it or not. I did not do much to the server. Had I wanted to do severe damage, I had the /item command that could have given everyone hundreds of thousands of MvP cards, I could have given people thousands of ad credits to destroy it. The damage you see before you now is a direct result of what Harken is done, you just all had to open your eyes to it.

Oh really? Thanks. Wait... How would you have known? You couldn't have. Another stumble Calbee.

Offline Brenna

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #160 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:50 pm »
I think it's kinda funny how both clans try to put blame on the another one~

Black and white are not the only possibilities. The truth lies beyond such reasoning.

Emmie, as a forum moderator for this site, I am amazed at your lack of neutrality. You seem to derive some sick pleasure in egging both sides on. Do your job and lock this thread already.

Offline Taiyou

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #161 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:55 pm »
I think it's kinda funny how both clans try to put blame on the another one~

Black and white are not the only possibilities. The truth lies beyond such reasoning.

Emmie, as a forum moderator for this site, I am amazed at your lack of neutrality. You seem to derive some sick pleasure in egging both sides on. Do your job and lock this thread already.

Negligence and silent approval are NOT considered neutrality.
Emmie, if I didn't know better, I'd say you are actually pro-aRO-conflict...

As much as I had fun seeing calbee try and defend himself from my 'childish' accusations, I'm re-requesting a lock down on this thread.

Calbee - your opinion on a lock ?

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Offline Tsolless

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #162 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:57 pm »
I think it's kinda funny how both clans try to put blame on the another one~

Black and white are not the only possibilities. The truth lies beyond such reasoning.

Emmie, as a forum moderator for this site, I am amazed at your lack of neutrality. You seem to derive some sick pleasure in egging both sides on. Do your job and lock this thread already.

Negligence and silent approval are NOT considered neutrality.
Emmie, if I didn't know better, I'd say you are actually pro-aRO-conflict...

As much as I had fun seeing calbee try and defend himself from my 'childish' accusations, I'm re-requesting a lock down on this thread.

Calbee - your opinion on a lock ?

Answer carefully Calbee... If you agree you are showing to me how you too see you lost here... Reinforcing my beliefs. Disagree and then I laugh at how much you can't argue.

Offline Emeralda

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #163 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:58 pm »
I think it's kinda funny how both clans try to put blame on the another one~

Black and white are not the only possibilities. The truth lies beyond such reasoning.

Emmie, as a forum moderator for this site, I am amazed at your lack of neutrality. You seem to derive some sick pleasure in egging both sides on. Do your job and lock this thread already.

Negligence and silent approval are NOT considered neutrality.
Emmie, if I didn't know better, I'd say you are actually pro-aRO-conflict...

As much as I had fun seeing calbee try and defend himself from my 'childish' accusations, I'm re-requesting a lock down on this thread.

Calbee - your opinion on a lock ?

Answer carefully Calbee... If you agree you are showing to me how you too see you lost here... Reinforcing my beliefs. Disagree and then I laugh at how much you can't argue.

Emotional blackmail?

And to answer Taiyou: what can I do? I love drama~

I'm a mod when it comes to remove/edit spam/off-topic/abusive/such posts and keep this forums clean in general. But I'm a player at heart~

Note: if someone wants to add something smart here, contact me and I will see if it should be posted.
« Last Edit: Mar 10, 2007, 05:01 pm by Emmie »

Offline Calbee

Re: On behalf of a few of the AnimaRO GM's.. I present you this..
« Reply #164 on: Mar 10, 2007, 04:59 pm »
Sure, you can lock it. Both sides have been presented and it's up to what the players want to believe. The further this goes on, it becomes more of personal attacks towards me that I'm forced to counter and becomes less about the topic.