/ok every one who openes low rate server gets 40-70 players end stops growing because of new ones or special features of others but more of them soon will be closed or gone or else.... lets get all who like low rates 2gether on some official look like server without custom or minimal!!!! and play well!!!!!!!!!!! guys!!
While i like the idea at the first thought, i know that something like this will never work out.
Even among lowrate people the taste is quite diverse. Some favor heavy customization like TalonRo while some other may
enjoy a Server that patches from an old episode up to 13.x while others want a healthy mix of both.
Also there are always some players who just dont want to be on a big server. They like to be arround their buddies, but
dont want to interact with a lot of strangers. So your Post is not bad at all, but its the post of a dreamer (no offense i rather deal
with dreamers)
not a dreamer we need to get 2gether only some official page (maybe RMS or else) cause i saw more the 70 servers 30-40 online OH MY GOD why dont they play at one server and i saw some servers 10 -20 people and serveral big ones 100 people we need just 2 get 2gether them and social web will help us! WHO IS WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't even imagine reconciling the two I've spent the most time on: TalonRO and Ragnarok Frontier. They're fundamentally different in every way, from the software to the community. And you want to do this to all low rates? You'll need to detail this maniacal plan.
we must firstly understand of how many people could help with promo finding people!
Quote from: RUSPATRIOT on Apr 12, 2014, 03:41 PM
we must firstly understand of how many people could help with promo finding people!
This is a technical and sociological problem. Promotion is the easy part.
I'm in! Let's get to it!
One server? You need to have all the LRs to agree with your plan, first. All of them.
Good luck with that.
Ok! Let's all play TalonRO and close all other servers!
That's how this plan works, right? /no1
TalonRo? No ty. Full of P2W and Mvp cards. Worst LR server imo.
Hence this will never work. Duh. Why do you think there are multiple servers?
People like different things. Period. Thousands of people love TalonRO, thousands of people love other servers. That's the way it is. You cannot force them all together.
P.S. I love how you registered a new account just to post an insult /lv You must be a great person.
Sorry for saying my opinion about TalonRo. I didnt even insult. Keep donating for mvp cards woop woop.
So back to the topic, If things can go back like they were on Eternity It would be awesome except the cheating part how the server went down the drain.
WoE was copetitive, the eco was great and the community too. I just wanna see a good LR coming up, without crappy P2W features and a big community.
Quote from: DeePee on Apr 13, 2014, 05:18 AM
Hence this will never work. Duh. Why do you think there are multiple servers?
People like different things. Period. Thousands of people love TalonRO, thousands of people love other servers. That's the way it is. You cannot force them all together.
I aggree to you at the point that different people like different things.
But its sadly also true that many servers are only online because the hoster are thinking its easy to host a project and stump stuff together to get online. (see servers who are using a basic flux, with a basic bugged rathena/hercules, and some paid scripts because they dont know how to do things on there own.
i think its important to have multiple servers with different setups (some people like buff npcs, others dont want them, some want many customes, others dont want them)
thats why i think "let the people play where they want."
It would be awesome when all play on one server, but this is a dream which cant be realized. same as not everyone will use a android smartphone, or everyone will drive a Nissan. people have different things they like.
It's mostly due to people not having any perseverance. There are plenty of promising servers out there, but server owners tend to give up way too fast if they see things aren't going well enough.
TalonRO once also had only 15 players online. And we had inherited not the most ideal gameplay mechanics for a LR server from the server we split off from (MVP Cards, etc.). Yet if you stick around long enough, people will see your server is stable and trustworthy enough to spend their time in. That and technical know-how is how you keep players. Not by being the "next big thing omg guiz join now we gun be #1!!". FableRO is a perfect example of that.
i found 1 good not corupted and new im want to ask admin to restart it but it is still fresh 5x prem 8x dropx1 cards x3 mvp x1 ! i want to ask admin to restart it but im not sure he will named roguard!
@Deepee i understand you vouch for Talon, but not everyone prefers it, to be honest. "Everyone join Talon" is a great idea, but not everyone likes buyable MvP cards /...
I think the point of argument here is that we WANT ONE. Lets ignore the obvious fact that everyone prefers 'something' different in their opinion of a server, and make a time limit for this thread to clear it out, make votes, refine it and get a general acceptance from the RMS community. What do you guys say? /ok
* The first thing we would need to do is make a server information post (rates, customs required,...) whatever to be added, in detail, WHY we should add those features, etc., and then we can argue about if those will work or not. Everyone makes their own post and we can make a general acceptance later on. I think this way everyone can voice their opinion on the matter.
* Let there be a strawpoll like this one http://strawpoll.me/1491466 (http://strawpoll.me/1491466) (I apologize, i do not know if links are allowed). It's just an example; maybe we can make a GENERAL one where people can vote directly, and we can evaluate it in a month.
* Decide who's going to run the server... We all know GM's and others who have been dedicated, smart, and fair; which is what we expect from any good GM. My personal opinion is *PureRO and AthereaRO* 's GMs. Personally, i think these two were extremely good and dedicated, especially PureRO's staff who held their own even with the low population crisis as long as they could. If it's anyone to run the server, i would vouch for them.
* Forget the fact that this will never work. Because considering low rate servers in RO right now, it is very hard to find a 'good' home. It's all opinions, just POST.
Let the community join up. Let's make this thread work to our benefit, make it popular and make a forum-wide decision. Lets hype this enough so that everyone knows about it. THIS IS OUR SERVER, WE MAKE THE RULES. LETS DO IT.
+1. You got your point man, I am so tired of low populated servers.
Generally its like If the server doesnt start with 150-200 Users in the first day or two. It wont have a good future neither competitive WoE.
Quote from: harikage on Apr 13, 2014, 10:32 AM
@Deepee i understand you vouch for Talon, but not everyone prefers it, to be honest. "Everyone join Talon" is a great idea, but not everyone likes buyable MvP cards /...
And that's
exactly why this idea does not work, that's what I'm trying to explain. You want ONE server and you want everyone to play on it. Why not TalonRO? Why not heRO? Why not whatever other existing server that people enjoy? You're forcing your ideas on people by limiting them to one server. That is
never going to work and will
never happen.
You saying "not everyone likes buyable MVP cards" is completely contradicting your own point. After all, not everyone will like the features that your "one" server will have. What if your server has a warper. Just like you saying "not everyone likes buyable MVP cards", I can say "not everyone likes a warper". It's exactly the same.
Your poll is another perfect example. It is only going to work if
everyone votes exactly the same. If there are people voting something different and you choose what the majority prefers, that means the people who voted something different will not like it. They will still pick another server.
All this will result in is a server that
some people on RMS like. That still means the majority will seek something that
they like.
A better idea would be a section or forum that recommends only secure quality servers and reviews are not just advertisements instead.
@Deepee I see your problem here /??. Let me verify /no1
You said i'm "forcing my ideas onto people" ... Let me be clear. I'm merely suggesting my opinion here. On the other hand, "why not everyone just join Talon", or "THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN" sounds just pessimistic and condescending on your part. I'm not dissing Talon here; it's a great server for people who like it easy. But this thread isint about existing servers. Believe me, if everyone wanted to join Talon, they already would've. There's a reason why people keep waiting for the perfect server. If people think Talon is good, then let them join. I personally detest any server which makes an RPG look too easy. That's just my opinion; please understand before dissing me when i'm desperately trying so hard here /hmm no reason for shots to fire.
This is not about who's right or who's wrong, or if the server we're proposing will be the perfect one. there may be kafras to warp which people might not like, even i dont. But this is not about a single person. I would gladly oblige if the majority wants it. There's one thing you have to understand is that there are so many servers with 20-30 people which have a LOT OF POTENTIAL while still being almost similar in nature. That's the problem here, can you see it?
What I propose here is, lets avoid that completely. Lets make something like Talon , or some other official server which serves the majority here. People dont have to wait for a random server to appear on the 'Server Advertisement' section anymore. Let the RMS community decide what they wish. Even though you might think a server like what we talk here may never arise, This might still give an opening for one, but definitely worth trying for.
2014 was a bad year for low-rate Server players and i guess we can all agree on that.
Whoever is stuck in this phase of server-finding where the only problem is low population will be glad that this is happening. LET THE EXISTING SERVERS BE. We dont care. If u guys recommend something, then suggest it and i'll be glad to join. What we need here is just more interaction /no1 and i'm pretty sure it might lead to something
@Fiasko Totally agree
P.S: Again, this is not majorly about creating a server. It's about uniting low-rate server players with similar interests who don't want to seperately play different servers, but rather join up in one OR more servers.
@Deepee
Well the first and main interesting factor about low rate servers are trying hard and farming ,making parties to get stuff.Your server just gave everything for free on a low rate.The worst any low rate could get. idk how ppl play it though. Well you made good money outta it,no wonder.You cant expect yours to be the low rate everyone wants to be on. As you mentioned there are ppl who like different stuff like whatever you did on your server but there are more ppl who hate making a low rate server into a MVP cards/item market. So as much as you think ppl like your server there are 2x ppl hating it.
We are just here to open up our ideas about a good low rate server and how are people's expectations about it.We are not here to talk about Talon RO. If people think they like Talon they'll join it no worries. This is for people like us who's been expecting a new good low rate server as its been long since we had a good one. WE don't give a s*** about the existing servers.
P.S .This is just about uniting people who are playing low rates to a single server rather than them playing in multiple servers. Nuff with your server and your MVP cards, You can have them all and enjoy your stay at Talon ggwp.
This idea is naive in so many levels.
Hermos; Current server : TalonRO.
..... Really? We going to make this another flame thread? Instead of being pessimistic and pointing out what's so naive about it, Offer opinions pls. Atleast I can try to make it sound a little better
Quote from: harikage on Apr 13, 2014, 01:50 PMThere's a reason why people keep waiting for the perfect server.
No one is waiting for the perfect low rate server. They found it, quit RO, or moved to higher rates. The low rate category has around ten unique servers with 50+ players. The rest are clones with 0-2 people. People are where they want to be.
I gave up hope on such a server. While I would be happy with a close-to-official server without bots and with main chat (I mention this because otherwise I'd just play on iRO classic) and at least 500 players, I just don't see it happening anymore. I helped alot with creating PureRO and even though there was no corruption and the staff was open to suggestions and carefully evaluated all of them, it still lost most of its population over time and had to close because the donations weren't high enough to pay the server anymore.
You can get quite a lot of people by asking guilds to come to your server, but it seems impossible to keep them for longer than 3 months. There will always be some drama even when there are 0 mistakes from the staff.
I know our memories of old P2P pre-renewal RO and maybe some of the big close to official low rate private servers 3-8 years ago are so amazing and we want to experience them again and show others how amazing it was too, but just like our childhood in general, it's not possible to go back.
I'm in!..
There was a "project" for "the last Low Rate RO of our lives", or something like that. Eternity-RO was talking about this, they wanted to call all the well-known guilds and members of the RO community and play what they called "our last adventure".
They got like 2000 register players on the first week at their forums, talking about this project, but suddenly it died. Don't really know what happened there, but i think there's a lot of people who wants an "official" like experience but with a little bit higher rates.
What am i looking for a RO server?... hmm , it'll be something like, No warper, no healer, 99/70, Only custom hats for looks (EuphRO did this, you can put any hat you have into this "donations hats", it was just for looks), no wings or naruto bands, Official Quests. Above 5x below 15x, MVP Card 0.01%
I am in aswell.
Eternity-Ro was amazing. EuphRo too. I hope something like these servers will open.......
Quote from: Playtester on Apr 14, 2014, 07:53 AM
I gave up hope on such a server. While I would be happy with a close-to-official server without bots and with main chat (I mention this because otherwise I'd just play on iRO classic) and at least 500 players, I just don't see it happening anymore. I helped alot with creating PureRO and even though there was no corruption and the staff was open to suggestions and carefully evaluated all of them, it still lost most of its population over time and had to close because the donations weren't high enough to pay the server anymore.
You can get quite a lot of people by asking guilds to come to your server, but it seems impossible to keep them for longer than 3 months. There will always be some drama even when there are 0 mistakes from the staff.
I know our memories of old P2P pre-renewal RO and maybe some of the big close to official low rate private servers 3-8 years ago are so amazing and we want to experience them again and show others how amazing it was too, but just like our childhood in general, it's not possible to go back.
Agreed on all points. Servers at this point but with a few noteable exceptions (TalonRO to name one obvious one) are born with an extremely short shelf life. Things can be perfect from a technical and administrative standpoint, or they can be a trainwreck. Either way, the end result is the same.
There's so many reasons why a close-to-iRO classic server that actually lasts just ain't gonna happen. If I or anyone else anywhere went over that in great detail, it'd be way TL;DR.
QuoteThere was once a no donating server like iRO because the admin loved to see people playing the game and he liked to log into the server and watch everybody doing that while he was helping everybody with their in game problems, people got bored of it, it died, end.
This actually already happened, twice at least.
I'm not sure how it happened that so many people had DeePee's entire point fly so far over their heads.
QuoteMy personal opinion is *PureRO and AthereaRO* 's GMs. Personally, i think these two were extremely good and dedicated,
As a disgruntled former GM of Atherea I would like to call you a liar, sir.
But anyway this would be neat, and I wish it would happen, but it's not really feasible. Someone could always try to do some sort of poll of all the low-rate players and create a server built for the maximum number of players, but that's all it'll ever be. I miss the days of the low-rates.
Reading about the 'Last adventure' project idea, it makes me kinda want to make a server with like, SUPER LOW rates [IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO .5x rates?!] and make it a finite world, where there's a final boss at the end that requires everyone's cooperation to defeat it... Then the server shuts down, says 'Thank you for playing RO for so long now go get a job ya nerd'.
Maybe it's because I finally got around to watching SAO.
there are people that like buffer/healer/warper npc and there are people that dont like them..
but both like low rate server. how to unite these peeps?
in more detail, there are people that like healer and warper but dont like buffer npc
there are people that like warper to every floor of dungeons, people that like warper to every field
things like those, how to make people that love low rate server to move into one server?
and not to mention some people like no customs at all, some like customs
So it all comes down to dealing with this god awful LR situation afterall.
After checking some low and midrate server out the closest one to my liking is ElariaRo, but I don't know if some people I know will join with me. I see this server has potential and is growing (slowly) overtime and has been just started yet. (6 weeks old). Afterall FableRo has potential too as midrate but there is so many custom stuff implemented which I really don't like....
Sadly there are no good populated LR server w/o overpowered donation or stupid stuff like a warper and @buff.
I think buffer/healer/warper should be nice in a MID Rate server, where everyone has a champion and camp every MvP and manuk mob.
But there's no team work, Mid Server exist for people without much time to expend in friendship or quest, they have a little time to enjoy playing the game in "SOLO mode", that's the way i see it, that's the way i've played it the last couple of years.
Low rate it's about team work, that's the real essence of LR RO, that's what i really miss about RO.
I'm kind of tired of ChampsRO, MavkasRO, SniperRO.
Once upon a time I would have loved everybody to play on the same server, imagine the possibilities. Nowaydays this is impossible, simply because Ragnarok is old and the influx of new players will settle on existing servers. There are one or two big servers for each rate category and it will stay like that.
Good luck with this tho, I wish you all the best.
Sadly for the LR section its Pay2MvPCardRo or OldNoWipeRo as the 2 big(populated) servers.
I wonder what happend to HyVent, Nightstand, Berzerker or Nabzz or the other big guilds from EternityRo...
Enchantress, Virtuos, Ten No Ryuu. It would be awesome if we could call them all. /sob
Quote from: Fiasko on Apr 15, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sadly for the LR section its Pay2MvPCardRo or OldNoWipeRo as the 2 big(populated) servers.
I wonder what happend to HyVent, Nightstand, Berzerker or Nabzz or the other big guilds from EternityRo...
You can call those servers whatever you want as they do still exist after all these years. I do not regret our donation system as that kept us alive for such a long time without longer downtimes. Same goes for that other server, it still exists after all. I suggest you stop flaming them as that's not even the point of this topic and totally not related to what the topic starter suggested in the first place.
We get it, you don't like Pay2MvPCardRo and OldNoWipeRo, that is totally fine, now back on topic you grumpy person you.
Quote from: Boreas on Apr 15, 2014, 04:40 PM
You can call those servers whatever you want as they do still exist after all these years. I do not regret our donation system as that kept us alive for such a long time without longer downtimes. Same goes for that other server, it still exists after all. I suggest you stop flaming them as that's not even the point of this topic and totally not related to what the topic starter suggested in the first place.
We get it, you don't like Pay2MvPCardRo and OldNoWipeRo, that is totally fine, now back on topic you grumpy person you.
Honestly, I love your server. Played there for over a year and after a certain someone stops dragging me to a new server every other week, I'm probably just gonna come home.
I prefer no customs and no way to buy anything of value with real currency and all of that, but at least Talon does it in a way that's fair. There's no separation of those who have their mom's credit card (Huehuehue) and those that want to get their farm on so they can be well equipped.
Back to the topic at hand: I still think it'd be dope if this were to happen but meh...the total player pool for RO in general drops a bit more and a bit more with each and every day that passes. For every one person that picks up the game for the first time, three quit for good. Between that and almost everything else that's been discussed in this topic, it's gonna be almost impossible to get everyone under one roof, no matter how the server is.
Make the server, then...
GTB card, destroying a server one drop at a time.
Relevnat XKCD
https://xkcd.com/927/
LETs Make this happen!
I am the owner of domain "www.thelastro.com"
It used to be a server at my country, but the admin give up and make another server.
It runs like 1,5 year, the peak player is 170ish, because its a local server not an international one, so I dont promote on RMS.
The domain is currently not in use.
I can design stuff for web banners, flash intros, etc.
Come on, we need fresh low rate server!
Quote from: Fiasko on Apr 15, 2014, 05:48 AM
So it all comes down to dealing with this god awful LR situation afterall.
After checking some low and midrate server out the closest one to my liking is ElariaRo, but I don't know if some people I know will join with me. I see this server has potential and is growing (slowly) overtime and has been just started yet. (6 weeks old). Afterall FableRo has potential too as midrate but there is so many custom stuff implemented which I really don't like....
Sadly there are no good populated LR server w/o overpowered donation or stupid stuff like a warper and @buff.
rofllmao
YEAH MAN, THIS NEW SERVER DIED THAT HAD "POTENTIAL" JUST LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER ONES BEFORE THIS. BUT THIS EVEN NEWER SERVER LOOKS LIKE IT HAS "BETTER" POTENTIAL! LETS JOIN THAT INSTEAD OF THOSE SERVERS THAT ACTUALLY SHOW SIGNS OF STABILITY AND EFFORT.
I think there was a once aegis server that was pretty close to official (i think?), unfortunately I don't remember the name of it or if it's even alive anymore (it was up for 5 years, having had a "recent" wipe last I heard, but that was a while ago). Gotta make do with what you get though, and ya'll gotta seriously stop joining new servers even if they get hyped up, they almost always go to s*** 3 months after. I'd suggest joining a server with at least 1-2 years of being up with no signs of dying, because wasting your time on the new low rate will only come back to bite you when it dies.
also thread was disguised by OP to try and advertise the server he's playing lol
Quote from: Judgement on Apr 16, 2014, 04:51 AM
YEAH MAN, THIS NEW SERVER DIED THAT HAD "POTENTIAL" JUST LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER ONES BEFORE THIS. BUT THIS EVEN NEWER SERVER LOOKS LIKE IT HAS "BETTER" POTENTIAL! LETS JOIN THAT INSTEAD OF THOSE SERVERS THAT ACTUALLY SHOW SIGNS OF STABILITY AND EFFORT.
Just brilliant, try to keep your hands of capslock "roflmao". Potential to me is like when a server doesnt have an op donating system or commands that make you stay away(in the LR section). The donating system on some servers is overpowered and frustraing to the non donating players because no matter what somebody is writing here "the more cash you spend the better off you are".
You can argue "the more time you spend the better you get in RO" is quiete the same but its not. /??
There is no server imo that stepped in and took the gap that eternityRo v3 left behind. Even through it was possible to have 4?? or more headgear slots on eternityRo.
"lol".
Quote from: Judgement on Apr 16, 2014, 04:51 AM
rofllmao
YEAH MAN, THIS NEW SERVER DIED THAT HAD "POTENTIAL" JUST LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER ONES BEFORE THIS. BUT THIS EVEN NEWER SERVER LOOKS LIKE IT HAS "BETTER" POTENTIAL! LETS JOIN THAT INSTEAD OF THOSE SERVERS THAT ACTUALLY SHOW SIGNS OF STABILITY AND EFFORT.
I think there was a once aegis server that was pretty close to official (i think?), unfortunately I don't remember the name of it or if it's even alive anymore (it was up for 5 years, having had a "recent" wipe last I heard, but that was a while ago). Gotta make do with what you get though, and ya'll gotta seriously stop joining new servers even if they get hyped up, they almost always go to s*** 3 months after. I'd suggest joining a server with at least 1-2 years of being up with no signs of dying, because wasting your time on the new low rate will only come back to bite you when it dies.
also thread was disguised by OP to try and advertise the server he's playing lol
That's Ragnarok Frontier, and it's probably never going to die. The owner and GM have stuck with it through all the worst times and still post new updates regularly. It's an example of how nothing kills a server if people don't abandon it. It's survived: hacking, mass botting, GM corruption, one-sided WoE, and low funds on multiple occasions since I joined it in 2004.
The OP has the odd notion that the hundred plus people who have visited and played RF on the regular for almost a decade will drop it for some new "unified" server that won't last six months.
Ragnarok Frontier has open PVP. If it wasn't for that, it would really be a good option for making it "the one" close to official low rate server. Also I'm not so sure if it supports also the common eAthena @ commands as creating those commands in Aegis is quite hard.
But I agree that it's silly to on the one hand say that there should only be one big low rate server and then taking "it's new" as selling point. If people really wanted to play together on a big server, why not just all go to the same one that existed for a long time?
That this doesn't happen already now shows that it's unlikely to ever happen.
Quote from: Playtester on Apr 17, 2014, 07:03 AM
Ragnarok Frontier has open PVP. If it wasn't for that, it would really be a good option for making it "the one" close to official low rate server. Also I'm not so sure if it supports also the common eAthena @ commands as creating those commands in Aegis is quite hard.
But I agree that it's silly to on the one hand say that there should only be one big low rate server and then taking "it's new" as selling point. If people really wanted to play together on a big server, why not just all go to the same one that existed for a long time?
That this doesn't happen already now shows that it's unlikely to ever happen.
It's not exactly Mad Max Beyond Ragnadome. Griefing is not looked upon kindly. It has a few commands, but someone coming from an Athena-based server would miss most of them. I have a similar problem trying other servers. Emulators do a lot of weird little things that aren't official, and it adds up into a frustrating experience. I assume it's the same if you're used to emulators and come to an Aegis server.
I think it's just a great idea, but as some people said, we need to do a server with features that were good to everyone or biggest part of the public.
A poll asking what rates the server must have and a mass invitation would be great.
Please guys, make it happens! /ok
PLEASE PEOPLE THAT LIKE LOW RATE SERVER, READ THIS :
I'm trying to advertise a server here.
PS: Triper was here.
Quote from: nana321 on Apr 19, 2014, 10:33 AM
I played many server, and the thing is .. once you get max lvl and all the gears you need, you are left with nothing to do. But origins RO offers you to experience again the fun of the golden years of this game, by getting a new episode every 2-3 months, which means there will be always: new mvps to kill ,new gears to get.
There's always WoE, PvP/BG, MVPing (ET from modern servers), making new characters and general f***. Not like delaying something that already exists in every other server makes things new either.
Quote from: Judgement on Apr 19, 2014, 02:52 PM
There's always WoE, PvP/BG, MVPing (ET from modern servers), making new characters and general f***. Not like delaying something that already exists in every other server makes things new either.
agreed
Why don't you just have a bridge or something like this:
Imagine this is server (A) and server (B). What if they coordinated into something which may connect the two servers? Like an eternal map where they can PvP and interact? Players from both servers get to use their items and build from their server origin provided that both servers have similar rates and custom items do not vary diversely.
I'm just sayin... I'm not really sure if this is possible or even an idea to count in or what ever just sharing my thoughts /ho
Hey guys, i have a midrate server and it don't runs good.. So if you need one for that project to make all low rates to one, I'mhere for you we could take mine server just pm me.. I only want a good server with good population!
Quote from: purplero on Apr 22, 2014, 07:16 AM
Hey guys, i have a midrate server and it don't runs good.. So if you need one for that project to make all low rates to one, I'mhere for you we could take mine server just pm me.. I only want a good server with good population!
haha, this made me LOL very hard!
That "I want" part... I'm pretty sure that a big number of users thought the same.
Quote from: Triper on Apr 22, 2014, 03:24 PM
That "I want" part... I'm pretty sure that a big number of users thought the same.
Yea for sure, but Most of them thought only on money, I started a server only for one reason I wanted to play to with a good classic ro but didn't found a nice server all unbalanced donates play for win such s***.. I only want a server where I love it toplay without cost that 15$ iI have for it. .. Don't need money from players lowl
Well, then you should have said it first because being it this way, it's a total different thing.
/sob so as i see theres some people who understand the idea and thinks the same so now we must think 2gether about how could we get this idea in real!
Lets find several admins who would get 2 gether!
Quote from: RUSPATRIOT on Apr 23, 2014, 03:43 AM
Lets find several admins who would get 2 gether!
I don't know if an RO admin breeding program would be ethical.
Im still dreaming of a low rate server. Wasted my time on Flawless, Evolve, Sanctity .
--Triper said: What about not going that way?--
nice but cant dowload=)
Ahaha lol It s not low rate at all its rather high rate!!!!
I don't think it could ever work out, too many different server settings, you can't please everyone. Some want no healer/warper/job changer, some do. Rates differ too, it doesn't take the same kind of effort on a 3x than a 20x rate server. Some want new custom gears, some want it to be as vanilla as possible.
Imo, it only works with 100% official no customs. Because then if a discussion comes up the only question is "does it exist on official servers?". So basically if you want anything changed you need to proof it's like that on officials.
Once you allow customs like warper, it will be really hard to find something everyone will agree on. Towns only? Dungeons too? Only first floor? Should there be a fee? Fee only for dungeons? Fee only for lower dungeon levels? etc.
Though if the server is big enough, the features start to matter less. I'm sure many of the players playing on TalonRO aren't 100% satisfied with the server features there and just play because of high playerbase / reliable staff.
Also, Indonesians did manage to unite all on one server. But I guess it's a different mentality.
Never say bever! its possible to do two servers in one with low an medium rates but one name or better bring two admins who know C++ and other stuff this one market manager who will find people! and lots of ideas to do!
we set team to work on server for now 4 people! are ready to work on with players of their servers =) we starting work tommorow
I'm probably not helping this cause by creating my own server but I'm committed to it. Checkout out my recruitment (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/recruitment/(recruitment)-lr-pre-renewal-server-no-pay2win-balanced-customs-mid-june-opening/) and let me know if it captures some of the things you are all looking for, and feel free to critique.
Hah it sounds imposible but yesterday we found one server made of two ones rates 1x1x1x on the start it was 160 online peak wwowowoow episode 9 and every 2 month new episode but it isnot intornational yet roo.land nice nice nice /no1
i like this one /no1 no custom should be nice.
Former PureRO admin here.
This is definitely an interesting subject. I do agree that getting everyone to the same server would be quite difficult indeed. As Playtester mentioned, it appears that a close-to-official type of server is the only way since adding customs appears to have a snowball effect of adding more and more customs. And you may start adding customs people don't like. However, from the looks of the US/European community, I am not sure how many people are even interested in a minimal customization server. It seems like everyone has been spoiled by warpers, resetters, etc. that they won't play on a server without them anymore.
It's just so hard to gauge what the LR community wants. I think the reason MR servers can do well is because those types of players are willing to sacrifice a little of what they want to create a high population server. Even before PureRO's launch I had guilds telling me that if we add a healer, they are gone. A healer, free or not would make them leave. Having the mentality of "do/don't do this and I'm gone" is what holds the LR community from all gathering on one server. I personally think that if everyone in the LR community would step outside of their comfort zone just a little, there would be a lot of overlap for a server that can house a high population.
I would love to be involved in something like this simply because I love RO and have a lot of nostalgia for it. That being said, if anyone is interested in getting together to help create a server as a collaboration, helping me create a new low rate server or wants to offer opinions, shoot me a PM.
http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/ (http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/)
This server could be a start, this server caters to those want the feel of the old Ragnarok, before the trans where introduced. A 2-1, 2-2 server, saw it max at 4000+.
This server is scary as this wasn't even advertised as a new server in the forums.
Quote from: MrMystery on May 08, 2014, 03:05 PM
Former PureRO admin here.
This is definitely an interesting subject. I do agree that getting everyone to the same server would be quite difficult indeed. As Playtester mentioned, it appears that a close-to-official type of server is the only way since adding customs appears to have a snowball effect of adding more and more customs. And you may start adding customs people don't like. However, from the looks of the US/European community, I am not sure how many people are even interested in a minimal customization server. It seems like everyone has been spoiled by warpers, resetters, etc. that they won't play on a server without them anymore.
It's just so hard to gauge what the LR community wants. I think the reason MR servers can do well is because those types of players are willing to sacrifice a little of what they want to create a high population server. Even before PureRO's launch I had guilds telling me that if we add a healer, they are gone. A healer, free or not would make them leave. Having the mentality of "do/don't do this and I'm gone" is what holds the LR community from all gathering on one server. I personally think that if everyone in the LR community would step outside of their comfort zone just a little, there would be a lot of overlap for a server that can house a high population.
I would love to be involved in something like this simply because I love RO and have a lot of nostalgia for it. That being said, if anyone is interested in getting together to help create a server as a collaboration, helping me create a new low rate server or wants to offer opinions, shoot me a PM.
I'll go in on this one. One step closer if nothing else.
Quote from: ianr0k on May 08, 2014, 09:52 PM
http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/ (http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/)
This server could be a start, this server caters to those want the feel of the old Ragnarok, before the trans where introduced. A 2-1, 2-2 server, saw it max at 4000+.
This server is scary as this wasn't even advertised as a new server in the forums.
Well just like the US/EU, the Asian community must have their own thing/way of communication, as does the South American folks.
Quote from: MrMystery on May 08, 2014, 03:05 PM
I think the reason MR servers can do well is because those types of players are willing to sacrifice a little of what they want to create a high population server.
outside of woonRO i dont see MRs doing so well lol
http://forum.roguard-online.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=580 (http://forum.roguard-online.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=580) This is post for creation 1x1x1x rognarok server soon we will made this plase sign on forum to get more people! no donation no custom! thx!
Quote from: RUSPATRIOT on May 09, 2014, 03:35 AM
http://forum.roguard-online.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=580 (http://forum.roguard-online.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=580) This is post for creation 1x1x1x rognarok server soon we will made this plase sign on forum to get more people! no donation no custom! thx!
I looked around on there and the idea of a 1x pre-trans server is interesting but it has to be done right. The main questions that need to be asked are:
Is the staff professional and competent? Can the staff avoid bias towards players and avoid GM-Player drama? I can't judge on these two.
Can they properly advertise and get a good following or are they going to just open it asap? From the looks of what happened with ROGuard, they don't appear to have much patience in opening a new server. Just opening up a classic server and then trying to get people to join won't work and now we have another server further dividing the population.
Will the server try to use their own custom commands? ROGuard appears to have a few of their own custom commands that I suspect they would like to carry over into this classic server. That would be a huge no-no. You can't have a true classic server with commands like that. It destroys the feel entirely.
All-in-all I'm not sold that ROGuard's staff is going to be the one to unite all of the low rate players, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: ianr0k on May 08, 2014, 09:52 PM
http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/ (http://balikragna.vylowgaming.net/balikcp/)
This server could be a start, this server caters to those want the feel of the old Ragnarok, before the trans where introduced. A 2-1, 2-2 server, saw it max at 4000+.
This server is scary as this wasn't even advertised as a new server in the forums.
This server is decent, though there are very very few people that speak English there. It's also a mid rate server, so prepare to max out very quickly and spend most of your time trying to get gears to +9.
I am currently developing a server that will be the same as iRO before the renewal update. I'm not sure if there are still Ragnarok Fans who likes server with few customization (because there will be no Stylist, Field and All level dungeon warper and wings). Because when a server has this +10 to all stat/+50% damage to demihuman equipment, the regular common item's value goes down and all the players are focused on getting all the custom item. My dream/goal is to build a community that values regular items for example, people will be trading +9 mufflers. I hope i succeed on this one. In my other game server (Trickster Online), the community doesnt like any customization because they're scared that the game will end up like RO. /sob btw, if you have any suggestion/tip for my upcoming server, please send me a pm <3 Thanks~
Quote from: lilsword on May 10, 2014, 01:56 AM
I am currently developing a server that will be the same as iRO before the renewal update. I'm not sure if there are still Ragnarok Fans who likes server with few customization (because there will be no Stylist, Field and All level dungeon warper and wings). Because when a server has this +10 to all stat/+50% damage to demihuman equipment, the regular common item's value goes down and all the players are focused on getting all the custom item. My dream/goal is to build a community that values regular items for example, people will be trading +9 mufflers. I hope i succeed on this one. In my other game server (Trickster Online), the community doesnt like any customization because they're scared that the game will end up like RO. /sob btw, if you have any suggestion/tip for my upcoming server, please send me a pm <3 Thanks~
Cant take it serious when your rule containing things from Trickster Online
Quote from: ggwp on May 10, 2014, 03:01 AM
Cant take it serious when your rule containing things from Trickster Online
Thank you ggwp for noticing that early.
server would be totaly free no any custom items ! no any hats this + stats just classical 9 episode