Jynx-Online STEALS

[Rageful Zen]

well.. a while back ago one the eathena forums i saw a tutorial..  a tutorial on how to make the Pimp hat..
if i made my own vr which happens to look like it or just like it.. you would complain about that?

and another thing, if you were banned from the forums its because of false or flaming problems..
Jynx does reply, "SHE" (not he) does not ignore to the truth.. she has nothing to hide.. her husband vash is the one who mainly makes sprites..

and btw.. do any of you read the jynx online forums to understand what is going on? you think they steal..  are you sure your getting ALL your information right? are you sure your accurate? Jynx online was what number 1 on Rate my server wasnt it?

could there happen to be any sort of jealousy that you NOW do something about the pimp hat situation when you couldve done something a long time ago about it...  there is no pimp hat seen on jynx online anyways....
it's misunderstanding how you say jynx online has a pimp hat on there if you have not seen it and nor have i..

did you happen to just save from a long time ago that you thought jynx online stole the pimp hat and you were waiting for the perfect time to "bring them down"

in order to have 2 sides, there needs to be 2 clients evidence..
are you only targetting jynx online and not endless ro or hidden ro for not creditting you either if or any?


and btw. for ratemyserver... it was never said by vash to use proxies on ratemyserver to submit more than 1 review...
and right her on http://s12.invisionfree.com/Jynx/index.php?showtopic=2958 it says the truth.. it has not been edited whatsoever.

feedback anyone ?

p.s. any of the gms you pm on the forums will try to reply.. it may take awhile but they do apply... ive never once gotten a miss replied pm

[Riotblade]

I got a question to ask you guys.

If you claim you dont use "eAthena, Fraya, Aegis" then what do you use?

Your site lists atcommands specific to eA and Freya, exactly as they were made.  I also notice that your servers features are implemented as soon as eA has "functionable" versions.

Also, you claim that "all the items are copyrighted through the US legal system".  Some items were made decades before JynxRO even started.  Can you really say you've made all 200 items by yourself?

So my question is, WHAT do you use then?

[Rageful Zen]

vash has made a totally custom one that nobody else uses..
i dont know the name because i keep forgetting to ask.. but no other server has it because vash made it..



**Edit**

do you happen to know who made Freya?
im sure Vash can answer that

[Riotblade]

No, he didn't.  You still have to work off of a core.  If he "made it", then he wouldn't be retaining the features that eAthena has.  Besides, modifying the source by 2% doesn't give you the right to call it your own.

[Rageful Zen]

If you still say im a liar, and i cant blame you, i will go ask vash, or have him come here and tell you what it is.


as for updates.. jynx online doesnt have Ice dungeon or that rachal town..
they dont use iro.. they use kro. but once 100% custom, there wont be a thing of ragnarok..

as told by mutliples..



**edit**
well while im trying to reach him, people have been discussing about this problem of RMS taking down JO
and well.. vash had put a picture up that is from iosro.
she has the yuno helm correct -as shown on pic-
it was claimed that farto made it -JO gm exstaff member-
so what exactly is going on here? even jynx said she's going to let usako slide through that..

i really think this is nonsense, it shouldve just been dropped and not talk to each other or have any fueds but seeing this posted up it realyl irritates players..
is she mad because -last looked- theres nobody on her server? or something like that?
correct me if im wrong please

one more thing .. lol   
http://iosro.files.deltaanime.net/images/fullpatch/allheadgears.jpg

**Edit 2 **
http://ratemyserver.net/TOS_owner.html

"-Server owners caught providing incentives to players to write a good review of their servers will have their servers suspended from the listing. "

-after "you will maintain good sportsmanship"


jynx had done an event asking players to write a nice review.

"3. Write a nice review of Jynx-Online under your character name" - from http://s12.invisionfree.com/Jynx/index.php?showtopic=2958

its not expected for the players to write a nice review.. ive seen multiple players "hating" on it with a few reviews, and guess what jynx did? replied to it with the truth or in a respectable manner..


am i wrong?


**Edit3**
and this is from a player who played other servers -still checking if those items are on those servers-

post from player named icon091 on the forums, -this information has not been edited.. all copied from him-


"1. Items

When I looked upon Usako's site, I went in the custom items section. There I saw lots of item that wasnt custom and was released by eAthena. Examples : The Gift Boxes was released when I was still playing, LLRO, in the year 2004, The Santa Suit was released when I was still playing, AeRo, year 2001, Crown of Osiris was released since Osiris was in Online! The Dyes have been there along time also, the Chonchon Poo hat is just the Poopoo hat with the face in it. Theres no difference! Thats not even a custom item."

as for Vash, he isnt using EA,Freya,or whichever you have just called


-this is also unedited- i tell the truth and from information i get.. i am talking to him on msn as we speak

this is our conversation
"Eryk says:
what are you using for jynx online right now ?
Eryk says:
okay ?
Vash says:
the core is not made from anything related to RO
Eryk says:
okay
Vash says:
it's a completely legal binding server files
Vash says:
the server has same commands as eA"

[BlackCherry]

Hmm, well since Jynx is not being allowed to sign up or post on the forums, i will add everything she said in our forums. It really is a shame that other "competition" would go as far as making stuff up just because Jynx Online is doing so well... but like Jynx says at the end of her post, 100% custom isnt far off, and Jynx will no longer be on RO rating sites. 1 more thing, I had never even heard of RMS until i joined Jynx online, and they should be happy she brought so many people to this rating site.  ok, heres the link to her post :

http://s12.invisionfree.com/Jynx/index.php?showtopic=3568&st=0

[Riotblade]

Biased?  It's not our decision.  There were enough proof and complaints that were sent to us.  She has a chance of being relisted, we already went over that.  The condition for that happening is to provide more solid proofs.  She told us that she got the items from some japanese site but did not provide the link, just some images.

Stop blaming us when we're giving you a chance.

do you happen to know who made Freya?
im sure Vash can answer that

Yes, Yor did.  He still pops into the eAthena channel once in a while.

[Kain]

its obvious Cherry here doesnt know what he is talking about. Go to the offical eathena board, and just type in Usako, The sheer ammount of customs she has made will tell you otherwise. i would say about half of her sprites are unreleased, therefore if she found her sprites on jynx that means they stole it. End of discussion.

As for jynx not useing a "ro core" im going to call bs. Jynx is still Ro therefore it has a ro core, no matter what way you look at it, it is useing ro based sprites,classes ect.

[Rageful Zen]

its obvious Cherry here doesnt know what he is talking about. Go to the offical eathena board, and just type in Usako, The sheer ammount of customs she has made will tell you otherwise. i would say about half of her sprites are unreleased, therefore if she found her sprites on jynx that means they stole it. End of discussion.

As for jynx not useing a "ro core" im going to call bs. Jynx is still Ro therefore it has a ro core, no matter what way you look at it, it is useing ro based sprites,classes ect.

im sorry buddy  but thats where your wrong, Jynx Online does not call itself Jynx RO ... its Jynx Online..
vash said hit himself how he runs it for Jynx... if you have further questions about that, then talk to Vash on msn or pm him on the forums...


as for freya..    are you sure about that ?

[Kain]

i never said it was called "Jynx Ro" they can call themselfs whatever they want. the simple fact is its still running off a ro based format. heres my point. If i take Doom remove the models and replace them with cardboard box's it still is the doom engine.

We are also straying off the topic of jynx stealing or not.

[Usako]

First off. What the f*** is a Juno Helm? I'm about 100% sure I didn't take credit for it though.

Second, I didn't claim credit for those sprites.

Third: Why are you talking about gift boxes? Do you mean the things in my "Custom DB" page? if so, that page is reading from my item DB2, with no exceptions. The gift box of which you speak is a quest item we put in (it is not a usable gift box like in gravity...it's just a blank item).

Crown of osiris, I also didn't claim credit for, but it is not an original headgear in RO. Someone took a couple views off osiris, and sprited it themself, then released it.

Chon Chon Poo, again I didn't claim credit for it. And just because it's the same type of headgear doesn't make it the same exact thing. Even if it's edited it is customized. Please read the definition of customize.

Yes, most of the sprites on my server are from eAthena. Some are also not. I have released my things on eAthena as well.


I am the f*** moderator of the graphics section of eAthena. There is NO guide about how to make a pimp hat. there never was. I would know -_-


and actually i do see the pimp hat on the server. And on their site under the custom items. Kthnx. It wasn't there about 7 montha ago though.


If those other servers have stolen things too, I wouldn't mind having them taken down.


And for the record I could care less how many players I have. WE've been running for 2 years with the same amount of people on average. If I cared I would have gone off and played a large server and left mine to die. My server is a place for me and my boyfriend to enjoy and work on together in our free time. I hate when people try to ruin that for us and make false claims about us.

And yes we're sure about Yor creating freya. And now Mikeyboy is running it I believe.

[Rageful Zen]

i never said it was called "Jynx Ro" they can call themselfs whatever they want. the simple fact is its still running off a ro based format. heres my point. If i take Doom remove the models and replace them with cardboard box's it still is the doom engine.

We are also straying off the topic of jynx stealing or not.

do you know the goals of jynx online ?

[BlackCherry]

Ok, I do understand your point. You have to check things out when they are reported. But like Zen and others (on the Jynx Online forums) stated, the "stolen" sprites were also found on other sites, some of which had tutorials on how to make them. And the worse thing is that u-psycho (usako) didnt even go to Jynx personally, which seems kindof suspicious. I understand also that you need proof, but shouldn't you require it from both sides? What has usako given that proves she's telling the truth? Innocent until proven guilty doesnt hold true here I guess...

P.s. These are my thoughts and I speak for myself only.

[Riotblade]

its obvious Cherry here doesnt know what he is talking about. Go to the offical eathena board, and just type in Usako, The sheer ammount of customs she has made will tell you otherwise. i would say about half of her sprites are unreleased, therefore if she found her sprites on jynx that means they stole it. End of discussion.

As for jynx not useing a "ro core" im going to call bs. Jynx is still Ro therefore it has a ro core, no matter what way you look at it, it is useing ro based sprites,classes ect.

im sorry buddy  but thats where your wrong, Jynx Online does not call itself Jynx RO ... its Jynx Online..
vash said hit himself how he runs it for Jynx... if you have further questions about that, then talk to Vash on msn or pm him on the forums...


as for freya..    are you sure about that ?

Yes, I am 100% sure about that.

[Kain]

i never said it was called "Jynx Ro" they can call themselfs whatever they want. the simple fact is its still running off a ro based format. heres my point. If i take Doom remove the models and replace them with cardboard box's it still is the doom engine.

We are also straying off the topic of jynx stealing or not.

do you know the goals of jynx online ?

why would i care about their goals. unless he Codes the entire engine from scrach it is still ro in some form.

Ok, I do understand your point. You have to check things out when they are reported. But like Zen and others (on the Jynx Online forums) stated, the "stolen" sprites were also found on other sites, some of which had tutorials on how to make them. And the worse thing is that u-psycho (usako) didnt even go to Jynx personally, which seems kindof suspicious. I understand also that you need proof, but shouldn't you require it from both sides? What has usako given that proves she's telling the truth? Innocent until proven guilty doesnt hold true here I guess...

P.s. These are my thoughts and I speak for myself only.

Bashing usako for defending her work is both moronic and worng.
and she did say they never responded to her questions.