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Offline Zyx

iFeelROs True Color
« on: Sep 12, 2011, 03:44 am »
this is just the 1st...

iv'e been a GM here for quite some time and this is what i saw after the WoE a GM is spying at the entrance of the emp room of our castle... we all now that, that GM is also playing as a regular player same as me but were on the diff. guild. Our guild owns the castle that's why they use the GM account to spy whenever they can freely enter the emp room or not. This is my SS after the WoE he still stays there  even after WoE ends...

this is you can see on the map that the other GM is in there since he's my guildmate on the GM guild



on this other picture when i searched where he is it is still in there



after this thing happened i talked to the owner of the game and he said that he will just add a script that the GMs won't be able to enter the castle... but upto now almost a week and still nothing like that... and also he won't even dismiss the other GM for doing that lol is that really a wise decision?

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iFeelROs True Color
« on: Sep 12, 2011, 03:44 am »

Offline Chemical Crush

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #1 on: Sep 12, 2011, 09:06 am »
Usually I'm all for GMs having legits, just not ones that participate in WoE.  :)  Your admin should be a little more wise.  Its unfair that the GM obviously has an advantage over other players by being able to 'spy'.

Imo he should get fired/banned.

Offline Neo

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #2 on: Sep 12, 2011, 10:54 am »
I talked to this GM about that incident , He said he was checking WPE/Macro users and i told him you cant determine it by watching . Just wait for Harmony that i will purchased next month and it will make our job easier. I also told him that we have a rules GM are not allowed to Enter Guild Castle during WOE then he said sorry and he wont do it again .

By the way , Its not enough basis to dismiss an "EVENT GM" since it was the first time and he said he wont do it again and for your info hes just a level 39 GM. No Serious commands :) Unless he will do it for the second time.

Now this guy Zyx was my Ex GM asking for Power Level Increased since he only got level 10 but Edited to Jail and Mute People Enough to help the server. But i refused to promote him since hes new then and suddenly he resigned and posted this report . Hope people are satisfy for what they have and wait for the time they will be promoted.

Regarding WOE on my server , I Admit both of the guild have sub GMs [level 10 to 40 ] i allowed them to WOE since they don't have @item and serious commands to  take advantage. And i already made some script to warp them out of the castle just in-case they enter the castle.

Gm Cozzy [Zyx] is Woeing on the other guild also . So overall both of them disobey the rules and both of them are SPYING.



Well after this do u think i will fired up my GM's ? Pls Enlighten me. and I already made a some script to prohibit GM's Entering the Castle including myself to be fair . And also i put GM Login Announcement to notice them if a GM is online.

I also change map restriction " No Commands"  inside the castle to level 99 .

Thank your for the post , And Good Day!!!

PS: Justice for the Title :)
A fault of 1 GM is not the fault of the whole server.



« Last Edit: Sep 12, 2011, 11:08 am by Neo »

Offline Zyx

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #3 on: Sep 12, 2011, 11:38 am »
ok i will just defend myself ^_^

1st of allyup i'm new GM in your game but i did almost all the work since i joined ^_^ you pass me the events when you suddenly got bored on making 1 and i find the bots on your servers ^_^

2nd i did not quit your GM team just because of the level of the GM yup i wan't it to increase but it's not because of that. I wanted to help you alot really lol i really did find some bot for you but you can't even give me a @whomap command so i can easily search bots ^_^

3rd i did not spy since i only check it for few mins didn't even stay there for long.

4th i just post what i saw right nothing personal ^_^

and last good day as well ^_^

Added:

neo you know me i'm not a hater of your server and i didn't said that your server is bad also i'm sorry for the title that's all i can think when i posted the topic ^_^
« Last Edit: Sep 12, 2011, 11:56 am by Zyx »

Offline Neo

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #4 on: Sep 12, 2011, 12:05 pm »

1st of allyup i'm new GM in your game but i did almost all the work since i joined ^_^ you pass me the events when you suddenly got bored on making 1 and i find the bots on your servers ^_^

2nd i did not quit your GM team just because of the level of the GM yup i wan't it to increase but it's not because of that. I wanted to help you alot really lol i really did find some bot for you but you can't even give me a @whomap command so i can easily search bots ^_^

3rd i did not spy since i only check it for few mins didn't even stay there for long.

4th i just post what i saw right nothing personal ^_^

and last good day as well ^_^

1st -  You do all work ? Lols hope you have an idea how to run a server , do the scripting , bug fixing , client modifications and dealing with players .  "Your job was only for EVENT and Police GM" don't tell me you do all most of the work . And i'm not bored when i pass some event to you becoz i  have some real life works  to attend.

2nd - You did not asked me to add you @who command , if u did i don't have a problem adding it since its not a big deal . And your reason when you resign was "I DON'T TRUST YOU" .I trust you but i need more time and Gm Levels are not easy as 123 to archived . It need some time to be promoted. You were like a child crying for the reason your mom did not buy you  a bigger toys .

3rd -  Why you did not talk to him when you notice he was on the castle ?

4th - Also nothing personal  , i just stated what the people need to know. That your a GM that is not satisfied and wants an instant bigger power and when being denied , RAGE QUIT and RAGE POST in RMS Forum .


Offline Eurydice

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #5 on: Sep 12, 2011, 01:37 pm »
I think your first screenshot doesn't prove that he's spying, he's just breaking on GM rule that the admin has set. And Neo's right? Why didn't you inform him that you guys are not allowed in WoE castles, since he's new? And I am not even sure if WoE is on when you took the screenshot.

On a few servers I GMed on, we're allowed to watch WoE, but as GMs we cannot participate in PvP and WoE. Since it causes too much drama. And the admin can always check logs, etc.

And lastly, GMs become powerhungry after a while asking for commands. I say nip it in the bud, don't give it to them if they insist, fire them. :x

And using "^_^" in every end of your sentence dismisses everything you said before it.

Offline Chemical Crush

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #6 on: Sep 12, 2011, 02:57 pm »
I simply stated you should be more wise.  I'm not saying you're dumb. 

I get its his first time breaking the rules, but GMs should KNOW and ABIDE by the rules regardless.  I wouldn't care what kinda GM he was, event, Admin, Co Admin, he's still spying by being hidden in a castle.

I get you now have scripts but these things should have been enforced since day one.  But like you said, was the 'first' time he did it.   I'd still punish him.

Thats all on you if you allow your GM's to play legits and WoE, I'm just saying I wouldn't have it.  If players find out they'll just scream that they are cheating, even if you KNOW THEY ARENT, it still stirs trouble.  I'm just sayin, if you wanna get offended by how I view things, well I'm sorry.

According to the person who posted there is obviously no scripts that allows GMs to not enter the castles? 

The person above me is right though, no serious evidence.  But I'm just sayin if it WAS Going on, i'd nip it in the bud before anything really sprouts from the situation.

Online mbl0128

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #7 on: Sep 12, 2011, 06:13 pm »
cozzy you know its not nice to assume. all you did was prove you were going into the castle during woe. and the server will survive without you. sporks was checking for rule breakers and macro's. he wasnt cheating. if you noticed tho it was during the last minute of woe. :P all you proved was you are cheating aswell.
-socks

Offline Chemical Crush

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #8 on: Sep 12, 2011, 06:18 pm »
Thats another thing I was going to ask, how did he know the other GM was in the castle?  I mean, how did he assume he was? 

o.o;


Either way, slap on the wrist and move on.  Not like he killed mvps or @item'd things.  But I still think the GMs should be more aware of the rules and consequences. 

Ya know?

Offline Zyx

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #9 on: Sep 12, 2011, 06:47 pm »
@neo

i didn't said everything as in everything lol ofcourse everything that i can do only XD

the 2nd is i did ask you about the @whomap command a few times and got ignored always changing topics

the 3rd is he is not responding..

@Eurydice

yup i know it is allowed for the GM to watch WoE but using your game account watching then using your regular char to attack i don't think so right?

is it bad to use ^_^ i'm a happy person that's why i always use ^_^

@mbl0128

yup i went there alright but only because i saw spork online and when i check where he is i saw him there standing and neo can check it on his script that i only use @follow to spork and did not do anything after checking on him

@Chemical Crush

when i online my GM account i saw another GM online and since most of the time we just stay at the main town and when i didn't saw him there i check where he was and that's what i saw

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i know that you will try to defend your friend and your GameMaster or GuildMaster as well but i just post what i saw so don't be mad lol

Offline Chemical Crush

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #10 on: Sep 12, 2011, 07:37 pm »
Oooh okay, so basically you saw him on, didnt see him in maintown and warped to him.  Fair enough I suppose.

Either way, coulda been worse, I guess?   But yeah, if the GM is WoEing at the time, I dont think his GM char should be in castles.   He may have been just watching but it -does- look kinda bad.

Offline Spork

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #11 on: Sep 12, 2011, 09:45 pm »
i admit it does look bad kinda..., but i would never cheat...i dont need to and if i did im sure i could do alot better then that. i went in the castle last minute to see if a char was using AHK nothing more, and then woe ended a few seconds later, maybe if you asked me i could have explained this instead of you waiting several days and then posting here with a server damaging title out of a fit because you didnt get a higher GM lvl...and IF i was cheating do you realy think we would have lost that many times in a row?

and if  it wasnt personal then you wouldnt have brought this to such a public forum instead of talking to me and the admin about it
« Last Edit: Sep 12, 2011, 10:26 pm by Spork »

Offline Zyx

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #12 on: Sep 12, 2011, 10:38 pm »
@ spork

if it is only about the GM lvl then i should have posted it right after it happened right? and it does not mean that if you cheat you can always win right since all it can does is spy and if there are so many players in the castle it is still hard to enter even if you know when to enter

Offline Spork

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #13 on: Sep 12, 2011, 10:58 pm »
your not getting the point that i had no idea that i was even in question till today even tho what your talking about happened several days ago and not now after the admin already delt with the problem and confronted me about it and we sorted it out.

Offline Neo

Re: iFeelROs True Color
« Reply #14 on: Sep 12, 2011, 11:42 pm »
I guess nothing more to argue , all of the problem was already been fixed . We heard your part and hope you understand our part . This was just another lesson to learn and another experience to adjust.
We need to move on , Or else this will look like another  childish conversation .
We ask apology , If we have some mental lapses on our part . Next time i will do the more necessary measures to avoid this incident .


Thank you and God Bless !!!