Guild Packages

[Chemical Crush]

Hello fellow RMSers.  =]

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From time to time I ask questions on RMS and today my question is about Guild Packages, on Low Rate servers!

So I've seen a couple of Low Rate servers with some guild packages around, which seem awesome imo.  Although some guild packages seem lacking and some seem over abundant with items.

My question to you today, besides the small poll above, is how do you feel about guild packages for Low Rates.  What is your ideal guild package?   [ Meaning what type of stuff does it include, try to be reasonable xD ]  And whats the worst guild package you've seen, if you wanna include that [ i've seem some pretty blah guild packages. ]  Include any thoughts and opinions you might have.

I've honestly never been part of a guild who has received a guild package, not a lot of my friends play RO anymore. 

Anyways, gonna go back to playin WoW.  :B

[Triper]

For low rates they're not pretty much needed, people that go into low rates go knowing that they have to grind to get stuff anyway, in max give something as 1 Emperium and some manuals.

I think that is better to have some beginner gears as able to get with the initial zenny you get by making a char or give to when people make a char instead of giving lots of stuff to people that join just because they join as a guild.

Joining as a guild is good and stuff but using that to get more people is a bad move because is the quality inside that should shine instead of what people get in the begin when joining as a group but i'm all up to give emps to people that join as a guild of 5 or more together so they can have something that they can call home or make an npc where people can go when they begin and after some checks make the guild/give them an emp.

[Chemical Crush]

For low rates they're not pretty much needed, people that go into low rates go knowing that they have to grind to get stuff anyway, in max give something as 1 Emperium and some manuals.

I think that is better to have some beginner gears as able to get with the initial zenny you get by making a char or give to when people make a char instead of giving lots of stuff to people that join just because they join as a guild.

Joining as a guild is good and stuff but using that to get more people is a bad move because is the quality inside that should shine instead of what people get in the begin when joining as a group but i'm all up to give emps to people that join as a guild of 5 or more together so they can have something that they can call home or make an npc where people can go when they begin and after some checks make the guild/give them an emp.

I was thinking the same thing, an emp maybe 1 or 2 Battle Manuals / Bubble Gums per member.  Or maybe some basic gear, nothing like Tidal's or Wool's.  I've seen a few low rates offering some pretty high end gear / items and I just thought it was crazy!  But you're right!  Low rates are all about grinding to get your own stuff.    Thanks for that input! 

[Yusifer]

MRs are popular for Guild Packages, and they usually include MVP drops and stuff. It's stupid, but the again, it accommodates the laziness of the players.

Valkyrie Armour, Diablo's Robe... Things like that. Not cool.

[RaptureRO]

I think 'guild packages' in general are just plain dumb. Like a lot of you have said it accomodates laziness and I don't want lazy people on my RO server complaining and messing up things >:

[Chemical Crush]

I think 'guild packages' in general are just plain dumb. Like a lot of you have said it accomodates laziness and I don't want lazy people on my RO server complaining and messing up things >:

xD ikr?  I just thought it was crazy when I saw these LR's with crazy items in their guild package.

[leokimah]

The whole point of a guild package is to get guilds into WoE faster if not immediately. Laziness or not that's not the entire factor here. Seeing as most (SERIOUS) WoE guilds want nothing to do with PvM, PvP, MvP, and now starting to be the famous BG. It's not entirely cause we are "lazy" it's the fact that the previous mentioned are boring, and repetitive. The average WoE server last about 1-2 months meaning a guild can range from 6-12 ( if the don't quit by then) servers in a year unless you get lucky with something like BrawlRO (yet another dead WoE server). Guild packages are more of a promotion of the server than anything really. More guilds can possibly = better WoE's which in return can make your server insanely popular.

Now onto the topic.
A low rate is already a -1 for any serious WoE guild. Now if they were offering something insane (for a low rate) like free 99/70 classes full BG sets and various other MvP items and supplies. Possibly it could attract guilds, but that would ruin the entire point of playing a low rate. I'm going with Triper on this one. I really do not see how an actual WoE guild pack would suffice for a low rate. I could be wrong though.

[Chemical Crush]

The whole point of a guild package is to get guilds into WoE faster if not immediately. Laziness or not that's not the entire factor here. Seeing as most (SERIOUS) WoE guilds want nothing to do with PvM, PvP, MvP, and now starting to be the famous BG. It's not entirely cause we are "lazy" it's the fact that the previous mentioned are boring, and repetitive. The average WoE server last about 1-2 months meaning a guild can range from 6-12 ( if the don't quit by then) servers in a year unless you get lucky with something like BrawlRO (yet another dead WoE server). Guild packages are more of a promotion of the server than anything really. More guilds can possibly = better WoE's which in return can make your server insanely popular.

Now onto the topic.
A low rate is already a -1 for any serious WoE guild. Now if they were offering something insane (for a low rate) like free 99/70 classes full BG sets and various other MvP items and supplies. Possibly it could attract guilds, but that would ruin the entire point of playing a low rate. I'm going with Triper on this one. I really do not see how an actual WoE guild pack would suffice for a low rate. I could be wrong though.

Actually i've seen a few guilds who are serious about WoE on low rates, not as many as mid/high rates though.  I honestly didn't know either since most Low Rates attract people who are about PvM and whatnot.  And yeah i'm pretty sure if I saw a guild package on a low rate that offered a free 99 and a buncha high end gear i'd just not play the server.  o_o;  And it IS Lazyness, to a point.  I get that they get tired of hunting stuff cause servers shut down and whatnot, but you should have to hunt your own gear, especially if its on something other than a Low Rate.

[leokimah]

I get that they get tired of hunting stuff cause servers shut down and whatnot, but you should have to hunt your own gear, especially if its on something other than a Low Rate.

Serious WoE guild on a low rate makes me laugh. I have yet to see any good competition on one ("low rate") since eternityRO a few years ago. Serious or not 1-3 guilds playing who can out emp break each other for 2 hours and calling what their so called GvG's an actual GvG is just hilarious to think about and even more so to see.

WoE is not about and should never be who can grind more or who can camp the most MvP's the longest. With all guilds fit with what they need (end game gear) WoE's are more interesting.

If guild packs didn't exist (I'm not talking about low rates here cause this really applies to a high rate as well) I would have quit long ago (I know i'm not the only one who feels this way) and before then people always geared and supplied me. Cause the way i see it I shouldn't have to endure 2-3 weeks of a bunch of mindless grinding to enjoy 2 hours of the game a week.

Guild packs are for WoE not pvm. If the servers are offering them for pvm then yeah i see your point.

[Chemical Crush]

Serious WoE guild on a low rate makes me laugh. I have yet to see any good competition on one ("low rate") since eternityRO a few years ago. Serious or not 1-3 guilds playing who can out emp break each other for 2 hours and calling what their so called GvG's an actual GvG is just hilarious to think about and even more so to see.

WoE is not about and should never be who can grind more or who can camp the most MvP's the longest. With all guilds fit with what they need (end game gear) WoE's are more interesting.

If guild packs didn't exist (I'm not talking about low rates here cause this really applies to a high rate as well) I would have quit long ago (I know i'm not the only one who feels this way) and before then people always geared and supplied me. Cause the way i see it I shouldn't have to endure 2-3 weeks of a bunch of mindless grinding to enjoy 2 hours of the game a week.

Guild packs are for WoE not pvm. If the servers are offering them for pvm then yeah i see your point.

I dunno I just saw them on some Low Rates, there was one Low Rate that only offered crap like dead branches and bloody branches?  also an emp and some other retarded crap.

Oof you're right about the Low Rate WoE.  I've seen a couple of guilds take WoE seriously on Low Rates, but not as serious as people are on High rates.  The only low rates with decent woe are the officals.  Lol. 

But you can't really offer a Low Rate guild package with crazy insane gear cause you know the community would qq about it.

[leokimah]

Yeah I agree with you there. Guilds do not necessarily join a low rate to just WoE. So a guild packages doesn't seem fair towards the rest of the community.

[IbombYouAD]

on a low rate server the only thing i would look forward to in the package are some field manuals :3

[Yukino]

Actually, I do find guild packages to be a bit unfair at times (when I see on a server's website that it is offered). It just gives a sense that "guilds are more important" than "you coming alone or coming with a friend, etc". I know server owners don't mean that, but that's what is hinted from my perspective. It may also give a sense of segregation where lone players and incoming guilds are in different factions (where the staff recognizes guilds and not individuals) and that those who are in guilds get an easier way to join the server.

Nevertheless, I don't really support newbie packages as well unless they're just EXP books and simple things. No overpowered customs or items.

[Strudel]

Actually, I do find guild packages to be a bit unfair at times (when I see on a server's website that it is offered). It just gives a sense that "guilds are more important" than "you coming alone or coming with a friend, etc".

Exactly my thought process! But players don't seem to feel the same way.
They QQ straight away if you don't follow their every little bidding.

[Yukino]

^ So true. Sadly, some players can cause a chain reaction, and you get a huge portion of the server complaining as a result. Not many people play simply anymore D:...