Do u think GM's should have their own WOE guild?

[freakyred]

I think they should have a WoE guild BUT use it with their legit chars and they should also not give any benefits from their GM account ... if you think about it hard they shouldn't have one because they might be on more on their legit farming items than supporting people.

[Loki]

Okay, crazy thinking here.

One of the GMs should create a guild which consist of other GMs! And the guild leader should be the server owner so that he can look after his underlings. Normal players cannot enter this guild!

(NOTE: This guild is for legit chars of course)

[Edward]

Personally, I think to avoid accusations of corruption and drama on the server... the admin/gm/mod should never let others know of their legit characters and never to stand out. So... no for having their own WoE Guild.

[shkm]

Personally, I think to avoid accusations of corruption and drama on the server... the admin/gm/mod should never let others know of their legit characters and never to stand out. So... no for having their own WoE Guild.

That, or have admins who don't play on the server.  GMs can be fine, provided they have very limited powers.

[Guest]

i agree that GM's shouldn't be guild masters, i guess its okay if they WoE and all that, i'd rather the didn't, but still they shouldn't have their own guilds just for the sake of preventing corruption rumors

[Wyvern Court]

I don't believe as a server owner I can say I would interupt with any person's legit player, even as a GM. Corruption comes from servers who do not do enough research on someone, or dont carefully watch newly hired GM's, or even watch the player in-game to see if they have a bad attitude.
Now, commands, only the owner should have the command @item, #item. It helps keep track of what goes in-and-out between players and GM's. Also dont let GM's be able to trade players. That simple. Do that and they cant really be corrupt unless they want to be obvious. If its obvious then the admin can take care of the situation and get rid of them.
I dont believe I would honestly take away rights from someone who wants to help the server, but only damage them in return and use them in the end.

[Poki]

I think GMs should have their own WoE guild.

Then maybe they could have Angra Manyu on them and start taking castles!11!!

[Pandora]

I say it depends on the type of guild, but if its a woe guild not really, simply because being a guild leader takes time if you want to lead a successful woe guild and that time should be invested on the server instead, but being part of a guild is fine, you can't expect someone to cut all their social ties because they're gm/admin.

Being guild leader of a non-woe guild, like a social guild or a guild to help new player should be fine however.

Personally, I don't have time to lead a guild, I barely have time to play, but my legits are part of other people's guild.

[Lynxx]

I've been a GM myself for quite some time and eventually event GM, I was an active player and later on had my own guild as well. Still I've never even thought about abusing my GM powers for that purpose. It's true that when you're active you have less time to spend on the server as a GM, but that doesn't mean you can't be helpful. You just have to find a healthy mix between your GM and your legit. As for abuse, if a GM abuses his powers for woe/pvp people will complain anyways causing that GM to be fired in no time. Besides that there's logs to check and I think you should only hire people that you feel are trusthworthy.

In the end GM's are also just players. Most GM's like to play RO but also like to be able to help the server get better. As long as you don't have power hungry or immature GM's who can't take to lose, you should be fine. Personally I wouldn't want to be a GM on a server where I can't WoE/pvp/mvp. The community will always whine, even if no GM plays woe, they will still say that friends of GM's have told them to do this or that or whatever. GM's that dedicate time to the server and the community will eventually gain respect, at least that's what I experienced in my GM career.

That's just my opinion though ^^.

[asdfqwerty123]

You just have to find a healthy mix between your GM and your legit.

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That's just my opinion though ^^.

I disagree.

Game Masters should be Game Masters, I don't agree with them having normal accounts.
You're either there to do a job or not, but don't sit on the fence.
I've seen GM's make normal accounts before and flame players and act like nothing happened when they log into their GM account, as if the characters have no connection to the person playing the account.

No, again, if you have time to play a normal account you're not doing your job right.
Not everyone (in fact VERY few) can be a valuable and effective Game Master.
If they have any doubts, tell them straight up, "If you have any doubts, don't even ask for the position".

[Mewi]

I don't care if a GM has a legit account, as long of course that they do not abuse.  I do however care if they are involved in WoE.  If I ever made a server the rules would be strictly written that GMs cannot interfere in WoE matters on legit or GM account.  With exception to WoE bugs/glitches etc. o.o

[Lynxx]

@ Zairik

Then again, how long will the GM's be GM's, not being able to play the game is actually boring in my opinion. Are your gm's around for a long time already? Aren't they missing WoE, pvp'ing or mvp'ing? In my opinion there's nothing wrong with a tiny bit of healthy competition on your legit, AS LONG as you stay professional on your GM and do not hold grudges. Of course not much GM's are able to do that, but even GM's without any legit playing are biased to certain "trolls and flamers".

As I hear it from you, you expect from your GM's that they dedicate all their time to GM'ing, what if they have a real life? Say a GM has a real life and can only spend 3h a day on his GM. What's the difference between someone having a real life and spending 3 hours or playing on his legit and spending 3 hours? Or would you in your case just not hire gm's that can't dedicate THAT much time?

What I'd like to know is, are you afraid your gm's will abuse their powers during woe or pvp? Or are you afraid for ranting/flaming against gm's cause of personal problems/grudges on legits?

Btw. I see this solely as a healthy discussion, no offense meant in any way.

[Skotlex]

Zairik better be paying his GMs.

I can't imagine being a GM for a server where I cannot play otherwise. What's the point? No matter how good the server is, what does it matter if you can't share in the fun? Is the server that good that you feel it is worth sacrificing your fun and enjoyment for it?


PS: These sound akin to the man who works 16 hours a day to make sure his family is well fed and maintained. What the man does not know is that the wife will be having fun with someone else if he can't be in there for his family. :<

[Shinn]

I agree with Zairik 110% the final question I pop to my GMs before they get the job is "you can only be a GM" I've had three great GMs from the start who have agreed to it, and let me tell you, you know they are dedicated when they agree to this. Also about it being boring? when you are not able to play then the answer is pretty clear isn't it? if you find doing a GM work is boring, don't be one! it's clear as water.


Regards,
Shinn.

[Poki]

It's reasons like GMs should have legit characters that kill the servers usually.

It's best if you stay dedicated to the server rather than fighting as a GM "to have some fun".  You can easily just have fun at another server, but you wouldn't be doing your job.  GMs were hired for a reason, to help the server and increase the fun for the players, not to have fun and ruin the fun for the players.

Also, you apply to be a GM because you want to, not so that you can be a GM and have a legit character.  If you can't possibly fight against the fact that you won't be able to stay as a GM without having some fun by making a legit character, then you shouldn't have been one in the first place.

Many dedicated GMs stay longer than you expect.  It's because they enjoy creating a great server.

Also keep in mind, you may not mind the GM having a legit character, but what about the rest of the server?