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Oh man. I can't stop laughing after having been directed to this thread by a couple of my friends and acquaintances.
Look at all this bullcrap you guys are all angrily pouring out into an INTERNET FORUM.
It's amazing and pathetic all at the same time.
If it does not reflect on the quality of your lives, I wouldn't know what to make of it.
No matter how much you guys "fight", "bicker" or whatever you guys are doing right here to show the superiority in your biased judgments, there's always going to be two sides to an argument.
You guys all remembered that there is a life outside of this internet, right? No matter how miserable that life might be for you, sometimes you need to step back and re-evaluate where your "internet life" is heading.
I've played Reincarnation RO, Redemption RO, even Retribution RO. I've played Deliverance-Online RO. I've been in Crystal-Horizon, EXE, Divine and Paw-Alliance. I liked them all. I wanted to find the one that was best for my RO experience. They all had their pros and cons.
Every single one of your posts on both sides are so biased and blown out of proportion, I can't help but laugh.
CH: Excellent players, devoted to leveling, focused on the task at hand yet very goofy when dealing with each other. Skilled in PvP. Loves competition. Unlimited humor. Serious when needs to be. Very close to each other and supportive. Though a couple of players can be very demeaning and rude, this attitude only shows up when provoked continuously by outside forces. There are some members who are just outwardly rude, I can not speak for them. There are always some rotten fruits in the basket.
EXE: Again, funny funny players. Great attitudes, supportive of each other. Not so driven into PvP aspect of the game except for WoE, unlike CH. I haven't had a problem with any of them. Some of them liked to cling to drama, but again there are always some rotten fruits in the basket.
Divine: Interesting players. Good amount of humor. Very supportive of each other. Most members aren't so PvP driven, but almost all the members are enthusiastic about WoE. Some of them are misinformed about many different aspects of running a private server, but hey. Rotten fruits in the basket all over again.
Paw-Alliance: As this guild accepts all players without question, this has been the most interesting so far. Because this guild does not require levels or previous knowledge/experience in RO, many players are inexperienced in the PvP/WoE aspect. However, they are helped along by the leaders of the guild who try to be friendly and helpful. However, they carry some bad fruits, just like the other guilds.
That's the most balanced view I can offer to any players interested in what the hell these guilds are really like.
As for the individual aspects of this server:
-Henhouse using @jumpto to normal players mobbing for him in Ice Dungeon for quicker leveling:
Henhouse would've gotten 140 anyway, sooner or later. He was warned harshly by Crono and given a week-long ban. I was in Paw-Alliance and I was satisfied with this. Henhouse was so close to getting 140 at that time anyway, that it would've taken him less than a week to achieve it anyway. And taking into account the many sprites/codings/mvp quests he had contributed, a week's ban was pretty fair. Are we all forgetting that Henhouse is a human being too? All humans are drawn to temptation. It's not like he started jailing all the players in Ice except for his mobbers so that his leveling could be EVEN faster.
-Sharu's events:
This is one of the most retarded accusations I can find. She's been an eventer for as long as I can remember. No matter what she did in Rein (remember, we're talking about dRO. Not rRO.), she always hosted events whenever she could. Are we all forgetting that she is a human being also? This is one human being trying to control 60, 70 (even more in a lot of the occasions) to run an event as smoothly as humanely possible. Do you know how difficult that is? Imagine trying to control 60 wild, pre-school children as one teacher
or 60 teenagers in high school as one teacher. Oh yes, not to mention the quiz events she did. Usually, to win a quiz, one had to PM her the correct answer FIRST. Yes, I've tried. Yes, I've lost many times. Yes, it was frustrating. Yes, I've let a thought enter that she was "rigging" the events. But then I snapped out of it. She's not stupid. In some quiz events, Tomf (leader of CH) won a lot. I've been in CH. I've seen Tomf's ridiculous typing speed. His fingers are literally on crack. When I took that into consideration, I understood why Tomf won a lot of the quizzes. On top of this she completed many duties that Jake, an admin, failed to complete. Jake did his part, of course. There's no question to that. He worked hard to update the server, coded many things (I.E. modify the @request command so that it also reached SubGM's instead of just GM's, allowing players to reach a wider net of help in-game). But many of the times, Jake was not online, or on his "legit, normal player" account. I saw Sharu helping players with egg-exchanges, in-game problems, etc. etc. And with all that, she still managed to have fun. She entertained many players randomly, even if she didn't know them. It's how I got to know her a little better, despite the fact that she and I had been playing the same RO servers for quite some time (I had only seen her from the distance until she decided to make me laugh that one time in-game). I don't know her as a buddy-buddy, but as an acquaintance, she is a decent girl and deserves her happiness.
-Sharu, Jake, and Melody's tangled relationship:
Is this any of our business? Let us stay out of this sad story. After all, things like this happen on a daily basis in real life anyway.
-Jake:
Like Sharu, Jake is an acquaintance. I've spoken to him only a few times and that was when I desperately needed technical help. To be frank, he is an a****** when it comes to player-relations. He is tech-smart, however, and despite him ignoring my desperate cries for help a couple times, I finally got through to him and got the help that I had been needing. He's a good guy who has strayed to the wrong path a couple times, I know his life is not exactly picture-perfect at the moment. But then again, not a lot of us have the "dream life" either. He is just another human like us. Humans with temptations.
The only thing I hold against him? His thanatos card whom his current girlfriend Melody claimed that he had "earned". He has never gone to hunt a Thanatos card. In my time I have seen CH go up the Thanatos tower many many times while I was in Divine. I even helped them out in a couple runs. Noone from CH has ever gotten a Thanatos card. How can Jake, who has never gone to hunt Thanatos himself, get one?
Okay. I can deal with him HAVING it, it's just one person. However, he let Melody use it to level her creator in ice dungeon (She was part of Paw-Alliance). I remember passing by her and wondering how a creator could do so much damage without a support priest. Let's not even get to the fact that she was supposed to be banned in the first place by Crono. Even some of the Paw-Alliance guildmates used this card to achieve 140. I hoped that that would be all for Jake, but he has done a lot of other things that only recently came into light.
-Crono:
Unlike Sharu and Jake, I've only seen this guy do this job in the distance. His judgments are, if anything, very thought-over. The banned players might not agree with his judgments, but hey. Their actions could have crippled the server or individual players' game play. If the actions were not too damaging, I've seen Crono graciously FORGIVE the people and let them get off with a warn because he understands that people make mistakes. I admire this guy for his perserverance, strength, and the collectiveness of his mind.
-Karma~Sutra's dual clienting during WoE:
I was in Divine for this and I remember just how much it angered people. Step back with me, though. This person saved 15 seconds of logging in and out to give one person a buff that would've disappeared anyway the next time he died (which would've been pretty soon because that's what WoE's are like, everyone dies and comes back pretty quick). Crono asked her to explain herself, she told the truth, and he FORGAVE her. Her dual clienting did not disrupt anyone's game play. She didn't dupe black list items like the Maelstrom guild did. I think that Paw-Alliance members leveling to 140 with Jake's Than card is a heavier infraction of the rules than her 15 second dual clienting. And yet, you hear more people crying about the dual clienting. I hardly heard a peep from anyone about PA's use of the Than card. Is this not backward, in any sense? If you think otherwise, man. I don't know what to tell you.
You want to know what Deliverance-Online is really like? Go find out for yourselves. Don't take to heart what anybody else has said in this topic.
I've learned that "truth" is a relative term.
