Debbie is dead?

[yC]

Honestly i have to agree with poringmonger, but that might upset a few ppl here i understand.

just look at hilter or saddam or all those bad guys in history ... there are ppl that still play their respect as well as ppl that still disgusted by their actions.  It depends who you are to make that dicision.  We shouldn't force ppl to play their respect for any reason, respect are gained when someone did something that you feel they deserve your respect.  In the same way, if someone did something very wrong in your logic, you will be disgusted by that person. 

So yea i guess you know which side i stands now since the person in question did nothing to gain my respect plus i have been reading alot of negative 'rumors' about the server in question.

As for debbie's tragedy, imho her/his death should be meaningless to sites like animarotruth.com or serenity's site.  Those are sites that reveal the truth, help ppl decide if they should play that server or not, if you allow me to put the word in a bad way, i'd say those sites are there to attempt to 'bring down animaro'.  So, the goal is clear.  Then, they should stay to their goals and not be affected by one's fallen.   Just like in wars, you don't stop just because an important general died, you stop when you win the war.

[shane3x]

some wars sides have given up because theri most important general died, sometimes the people look towards him then the actual leader himself.

and why are people trying toi amends things after debbies death. if she had not died everything would still continue as they where and it would make no difference.

[AceJay]

Hmm..drama..

I do not like this comparing Debbie/Pmak to Hitler. Maybe if WoE was real, then it would be different, but seriously, it's a GAME. Who gives a f*ck if you waste a few bucks donating to pay salary? Who cares if you lose WoE due to corruption and botting on the GM team? I don't see this kind of s*** sprouting up from people in LEGAL, PAID, online games, such as XboxLive, where someone could easily use hacks to their advantage.

Seriously though, let's not care about the whole Philip Mak or OpenKore or any of this s*** controversy/facts. Get back to playing your servers. There will ALWAYS be corruption and botting and these things, no matter what.

MMORPGs will take your money no watter what.

And you know what? I might just donate 100 bucks. Let it go towards GM salaries. See if I give a f*ck.

-AceJay

Edit: lol, filterowned.

Also, obviously, the server is not perfect, especially with it being Aegis and all. I do have MANY problems with the server, but I will never find a better place. EVER.

[Dark_Raven]

Anyway if Debbie/PMak indeed is dead, you have to respect him. By no means you can compare him to Hitler. As For Saddam goes - I did not like way he was executed.

Pmak made a server to play. In every right he had a right to make floats for himself.He wroked hard for it. He died due to work stress. And donations were not forced on people. I am an aRO player. I dont like Harken like many others , but I was never jealous of the Donators. Its the recent fact that AD prices went up like Rabbit birth rate. I had to quit the server. Besides the Lag torments me. Every RO server out there has donations in some form or another. And the Fact doesnt change aRO has a whopping 2400 players at WoE times. No other Private server is even close to the half of this. 2400 is more then a few official RO servers as well.

Please people , Give Debbie respects. Let bygones be Bygones. He/She was hard working person and a great programmer.

[poringmonger]

You can't silence the truth- Windsong is a prime example of that, and she continues to lead the war against Anima's corruption. I do support spreading the truth, but I'm done taking part in it.

Understood. Your decision is respectable, although I probably wouldn't choose the same path.

And you know what? I might just donate 100 bucks. Let it go towards GM salaries. See if I give a f*ck.

Understood. Your decision is respectable, although I probably wouldn't choose the same path.

I don't see this kind of s*** sprouting up from people in LEGAL, PAID, online games, such as XboxLive, where someone could easily use hacks to their advantage.

"Official" servers? I can't agree; there are gripes and rants about most commercial games, what people need fixed, what seems unfair, or in the worst case, why they left. For example, Slashdot has a small treasure trove of complaints about WoW. People will complain about poor service. Unfortunately, they won't always vote with their wallets.

Seriously though, let's not care about the whole Philip Mak or OpenKore or any of this s*** controversy/facts. Get back to playing your servers. There will ALWAYS be corruption and botting and these things, no matter what.

MMORPGs will take your money no watter what.

Possibly. But we do have a right, maybe a duty, to not put up with it. If a purchase doesn't work for you, the very best thing you can do is to jump from it. When we give money for a product, we are saying that we approve of it, and we'll continue to buy it just the way it is. Only when we don't give our money out will the producer see that we find something unacceptable. The producer will have no reason to improve the product if it already sells well. Buyers are supposed to hold the power in capitalism, but we're being conditioned to think that we have no choice and "have to" settle for things that don't meet our needs. But we don't, we can pick another product or do it ourselves - and isn't that what private servers are for? (:

Down with the bourgeois! Revolution! Wheeeee!

[yC]

Let's not talk about respect or not, i already said it:

We shouldn't force ppl to play their respect for any reason, respect are gained when someone did something that you feel they deserve your respect.  In the same way, if someone did something very wrong in your logic, you will be disgusted by that person.

Not everyone here played the server he made, enjoyed the environment he created, so let's not get into who not respect who because obviously everyone's view/feel is different and everyone has a choice don't we?

[Rbread]

Still, somebody died.  They brought it into this forum.  Most of us don't know this Philip Mak.  Might as well just say

Rest In Peace

No matter how jealous you are over another persons success, you still have to respect them as a person-- as a human.

[AceJay]

Indeed, I forgot to say that in my previous post.

Even if Pmak is not dead, I will continue to believe that Debbie is dead, for the community.

And so, Debbie, rest in peace. Thank you for your amazing server (sans Aegis )

[shane3x]

if the community found out debbie wasnt who she said she was and isnt dead it would turn animaro into the ghetto, but worse. For the time being i will believe debbie is a she and she is dead until someone proves otherwise or proves debbie is a she and has passed on.

if the person who got a hold of a newspaper article could load it so we can research and decide for mourselves

[Magnus the Exorcist]

well... we all know debbie  is Pmak and Pmak is a guy =P

until some1 show me a obituary hes alive in my opinion. probably too busy in real life to care about what ppl say about him or anima.

=============="off topic"================
another point who worry me is... "what now?"
    some US friends said me theres no more sponsors to make free ads;
    MVP cards reached 16 mil;
    ads reaching 600kz;
    the website say rates 5/5/3 but MVP drops is near 0 now
    many looters and ksers on every single map and they dont mind when reported cuz max punishment is get muted...

    GMs come in and GMs come out but...
    theres anima any future?

[Rince]

The only part that concerms me about this issue is that, with the death of Philip, Harken will take over as the head GM.

Harken = Pure Communism

No freedom of speech, action, or anything what so ever. [You get the idea]

If he doesnt like you......Youre gone.

[gameaddict3]

so... PMak makes money by selling bots and getting donations for anima... what did he do before RO.... what if he is (or was) a professor at a university... i have some theories and some sites to back it up... if anyone wants to know what I have to offer please message me

[laecertus]

ah not but he got a p.h

[Emeralda]

I agree about the Harken part. That won't be nice...

Anyway, here's another topic on a diffrent server about this: > teh Topic <. Similiar views and some different arguments.

[Emeralda]

so... PMak makes money by selling bots and getting donations for anima... what did he do before RO.... what if he is (or was) a professor at a university... i have some theories and some sites to back it up... if anyone wants to know what I have to offer please message me

oh side note if you checked the George Washington University were he went to school you'll find he was a pianoist in one of there school musical's im pretty sure if he did pass away there would be some information as to remember him by im pretty sure there should be and i couldnt find anything. though i found alot of interesting things. http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5964/pc260106fn4.jpg

Quote from a topic on a diffrent forum.