aeRO: It's back

Started by Zeidan, Nov 20, 2009, 07:55 PM

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Zone

Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 21, 2009, 05:57 PM
-You claim I don't have the scripts they had yet you've never played the server so you don't know. As I've said, I have almost everything the old server had except people have to restart from scratch and they know that when joining. They also know it's under a new GM Team, so I'm not lying to anybody.

-You claim you don't like or play RO, then why waste your time posting here? It seems to me like you're a mad server owner.

Your comparisons won't make you look any smarter. You're making assumptions and trying to pass them as facts while you've never tried the server so you cannot compare. I've made no promises to anybody so your Obama comparison fails. I delivered what people wanted: aeRO; the same way it was before dying. People are aware they have to start over so I'm not lying to anybody. If you really don't play this game, then you should stop wasting your time posting about something you have no clue about.
You said it yourself that you don't have the scripts.  You said you have nothing from the old server.
You have what you think is like the old server.

I don't play RO, I just hate people like you and I wish you'd get shot in the throat and drown in your own blood as it pours down your esophagus.
I haven't been interested in RO for a year now.
I don't need to try a server when it clearly is trying to be like another server.
I'd rather play something unique like MouRO, if it had more players.
You claim to be not corrupt, you claim to be like the old aeRO.
You deliver what you are trying to make. aeRO before it was dying.
Again, you can only try to make it how it was.

I like blabbering on an on about s*** like this.
It lets me voice my hatred for idiots who'd rather make a server using a dead server's name and claiming to be just like it than make their own unique server.

It's honestly despicable in my eyes that you'd even try this.
however, I do see how my words mean nothing, so I will stop wasting my time and continue elsewhere.

Enjoy your -su aeRO

Zeidan

#31
Quote from: Zone on Nov 21, 2009, 06:06 PM
Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 21, 2009, 05:57 PM
-You claim I don't have the scripts they had yet you've never played the server so you don't know. As I've said, I have almost everything the old server had except people have to restart from scratch and they know that when joining. They also know it's under a new GM Team, so I'm not lying to anybody.

-You claim you don't like or play RO, then why waste your time posting here? It seems to me like you're a mad server owner.

Your comparisons won't make you look any smarter. You're making assumptions and trying to pass them as facts while you've never tried the server so you cannot compare. I've made no promises to anybody so your Obama comparison fails. I delivered what people wanted: aeRO; the same way it was before dying. People are aware they have to start over so I'm not lying to anybody. If you really don't play this game, then you should stop wasting your time posting about something you have no clue about.
You said it yourself that you don't have the scripts.  You said you have nothing from the old server.
You have what you think is like the old server.

I don't play RO, I just hate people like you and I wish you'd get shot in the throat and drown in your own blood as it pours down your esophagus.
I haven't been interested in RO for a year now.
I don't need to try a server when it clearly is trying to be like another server.
I'd rather play something unique like MouRO, if it had more players.
You claim to be not corrupt, you claim to be like the old aeRO.
You deliver what you are trying to make. aeRO before it was dying.
Again, you can only try to make it how it was.

I like blabbering on an on about s*** like this.
It lets me voice my hatred for idiots who'd rather make a server using a dead server's name and claiming to be just like it than make their own unique server.

It's honestly despicable in my eyes that you'd even try this.
however, I do see how my words mean nothing, so I will stop wasting my time and continue elsewhere.

Enjoy your -su aeRO
Your reading comprehension skills are terrible. I've never said I don't have anything from the old aeRO, read again. You're taking shots at me for reviving a server that people loved to play? Wow, what a terrible person I must be!

Arguing with stubborn people like you is useless and I'll just end this here.

Relics

This topic is getting out of hand, keep your cool together or it's warning time

GorthexTiger

Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 20, 2009, 10:16 PM
Obviously we don't have the same database. People started from scratch. Hence the "new management".

Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 20, 2009, 10:16 PM
It's practically the same exact server, just different management/website.

Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 21, 2009, 03:47 PM
They did not give me anything.

Quote from: Zeidan on Nov 21, 2009, 03:47 PM
We restarted from scratch.

While I understand your intent, there's one thing that I must make clear.

Your aeRO will never be the same.

Even in the best case scenario, where you had all the SVN files, the SQL db's, and everything needed to put it back together...it's really the server's infrastructure (the players, the staff, the community as a whole) that is what gives a server it's "attitude" and gives people a reason to play, or influences how they feel about the server; as a collective.

The fact that YOU, as a previous player of the server are remaking it, says a lot. Your dedication to remaking it is admirable, but I don't want you to get the starry eyed impression that it will be the EXACT same.

Because now you will be the admin or staff member in charge, you will be the one dealing with bugs, answering calls, etc. The players will be different, the GMs and any forum mods you have will be different, and, most importantly, any future implementations, or changes, or updates, or new whatever, will have been YOUR idea, and not the previous admin from your server you played on long ago.

This making it further and further from the aeRO that you knew long ago.

I have to say, that trying to bring back a dead server is admirable, especially if you say you are a previous player and you just want to be like the old days.

I think the closest, you will get, is the first minute your server is online, from then on out, it will be YOUR aeRO interpretation, what YOU would have done in his shoes to make aeRO for the better.

And being an admin as a player has a different 'taste' as far as the server goes; you might find that the aeRO you dreamed of earlier, will changes as time goes on and you implement new and different things.

All points aside, good luck to you.

Glory days are glory days for a reason; they don't last forever.
Read about the "Great Dramas" Part 1, Part 2, & Part 3


Loki

Its still a mirror image of the server. The only difference is the mirror's property. Nothing you say changes that.
QuoteWhatever floats your boat.

tracer

Zeidan, don't even waste your time with these people. I know first hand that once you write more than one sentence, these people won't even have the attention span of reading pass the first word. From my experience here, most of the people on RMS got no business with RO and the fact that most of them are either old or current server owners, you won't be able to get them to think or atleast get some sympathy out of them. Once their server dies after the month, they be back with nothing else to do besides bashing your server, so just let it be with these douches. Obviously these guys doesn't get what a server revival is, and explaining it to them is useless and counterproductive.

Like I said before.

The server is dead. They remade it. It's a game. Get over it.
Quote from: Final on Nov 29, 2009, 04:58 AM
Skills aren't exactly needed to run a server however they are good to run an excellent server.
Close your eyes and smash your keyboard. You're doing just fine.
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@tracer Damn so badass!!
Yeah!
Quote from: tracer on Dec 14, 2009, 05:48 PM
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Someone's got to say it.
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orix1357

I agree, make a good revival of aeRO and forget about what they say. I dunno if I could return, but I'm looking forward that you can handle this server better than the past owners.
Has played in: aeRO, heRO, OracleRO, ReboundRO, AriaRO, IntenseRO, VastRO, LuminaRO, AerialRO, NyuubiRO and PumpkinRO.

BuBuChaCha

#37
being an old aeRO player myself, having an aeRO ripoff (that does it the right way) is better than nothing. i've been looking for aeRO-like servers (the skill delays, at least) but none of these other decent pservers had them. i have to thank Zeidan for making a server that us aeRO players would be very familiar of. at least we had something to play on again.

i'm no Zeidan donkey kisser, but you guys should quit pulling off a "Tim Langdell" and actually try the server first before you judge. i hate aeRO rip-offs too stereotypically, but Zeidan's different because he did rip it off THE RIGHT WAY. unlike those aeRO rip-offs that bastardize aeRO or its servers's names with overpowered customs and donations or by just being plain crap *cough*demonRO*cough*aeRO2.tk*cough*. and with the new administration, hopefully this turns into a better aeRO than the old one (i don't like how the old administration sometimes implements game balance by just "duct taping" it and not addressing the true cause).

l†achi

I wanna remake pre-ro, but without Lord Wind, Sirjedi, Eve, The -[A]postle of Stars-, and all the other cool people it's still not the same, aeRO isn't back, a server that wants to be just like aeRO is created, join it if you like aeRO

Freedom

The aeRO "we" know is dead. The aeRO "you" made is not aeRO. We can't do anything about the old aeRO, it's dead. The aeRO we know is "Artificial Entertainment Ragnarok Online", your aeRO is "Artificial Entertainment Rip-off(ragnarok) Online. I agree with Zone.
If I offended you, too bad.

BuBuChaCha

of course it's not the goddamned aeRO! it was made for the players who wants to relive the awesomeness that was aeRO.

crysiscore3

#41
I wonder if Sangelo is a mod now?
I don't know why, but that thought amuses me.

"AERO" isn't back though.
Mayaan is.
The other four are down for now.
Works for me, as I only played Charm and Mayaan myself(obviously Charm was too dead to bother with).


Quote from: YusiferAnd it's not that we're envious; we're not, we're a bit disgusted that one would use the name of a well-known server to lure people in, when it's really not the real thing at all. It's sleazy.
To some extent I agree. It's not AE, as it lacks the old database, and admins.
But I don't think you realize just how inactive the admins were.
They were SO inactive as to barely count.
But given that it's a copy of the old RO lacking the database, it would basically be AERO as much as AERO was still AERO after a wipe.
Only difference is the admins. And as previously mentioned, they weren't around and hadn't been for a very long time.

Quote from: ZeidanThey did not give me anything. We restarted from scratch.
Have you fixed the duping problem, or decided to take Gods off the table?
That duping was killing the server :/

Quote from: ZeidanKinko got banned by paypal(that's what he says) and could not pay for server fees.
Yes, partly because of the new mod Zerwell. He claimed to be an admin from pRo. He also claimed he was banned, so I generally believed him.
I also got confirmation from one of Ziie's friend's who confirmed an admin had indeed recently been banned from pRo for(guess what?) aiding in credit card fraud.

I flat out KNOW Zerwell was duping himself items. As he was bragging about having a dozen flamring cards which he'd "hunted".
Dummy didn't even know there WAS no flamring to hunt.

I was even in a guild with him for a short time. Not only had he stocked his "legit" account with a bunch of illegal items, and using mjols during WoE, I flat out read him advising someone to donate with stolen credit cards.

I never got ahold of Bean directly, and though I *did* tell Kinko a small portion of it, he was more focused on fixing the wipe mess for donators and asked that I tell him more in a few days(of course I never saw him again :p)

Quote from: ZeidanThey didn't even visit the forums to let us know what was happening
They did. Kinko explained here
He seems to plan on reupping it "one of these days". So I guess he's not willing to hand out the old database.
In some ways I guess that could be for the best.
Lord knows the economy had gone to hell from all the duping.

Quote from: ZeidanThe old admins obviously did not care anymore since they never visited the forums to let us know what's happening. I think the new management is a great thing. Kinko was never there and was only making money off people while Bean did most of the work.
Kinko hasn't  made money on the server in a long long time.
Back when he was getting a decent influx of donations, and the game was mostly US based, he was making above server costs for almost a year.
Ever since it's been primarily non-US he's been operating at a loss.
Bean did do more work, because Kinko was done with the server.
He never palyed on anything other than Charm, and Charm had been dead for over two years when primary AE went down.

Quote from: XeidanThe mostly corrupt staff that aeRO had, we don't have; which is a good thing.
I liked Kuro, Sabao, Mafia and Tsubasa :/

Anyway, I'm downloading it now. I promise to write a review for it in the next few weeks.
Also
Make Censhu and Slaad come back <_<

Or I'll hit you with a carrot >_>
Thinking of making your own RO PServer?
Read this first.

Scene-Star

i tried aeRO server. according to my observation. i can see that aeRO is imbalanced due to wings . the quest headgears and etc.
i dunno why but some players are overpowered.

Zeidan

By they didn't come to tell us what was happening, I meant that after months of posting that first time, they never came back to let us know if there was any improvement. Slaad already plays there. Not sure who you are?
Quote from: Scene-Star on Dec 10, 2009, 09:11 PM
i tried aeRO server. according to my observation. i can see that aeRO is imbalanced due to wings . the quest headgears and etc.
i dunno why but some players are overpowered.
The fact that you have your own server makes what you say hard to believe.

Hypothermia

aeRO admins crashing servers, esp artificial.