AeriaRO a GMs Perspective

Mewi · May 30, 2008, 12:23 AM

Okay where to start, since I got "Fired" by some new admin that came up out of thin air? and had no previous experience with AeriaRO, let alone knowledge of the staff. Let me state here first, that I was hired for the purpose to administer punishment to the players that were constantly harassing people and to make sure GMs were following the rules. I was hired for this purpose because the current staff was too soft and could not effectively punish rule violators. This role eventually extended to training other GMs ( not that anyone was hired ) either way I was promoted to access level 80 and pretty much designated GM monitor/trainer.

Quote from: VisionsIt is obvious to me that aeriaRO is going through some rough times. Most of the staff is inactive or useless. This post is to inform you that anyone below administrator level is no longer a member of the team.

QuoteRule 2. Respect all Players and Moderation Authorities.

Racism, sexist remarks, slander, discrimination, public vulgarity, as well as the use of disparaging terms, whether it be against ones race, gender, nationality, religion, or sexual orientation, will not be tolerated.

Respect all members even if they are not respecting you. Do not harass, offend or in any manner try to cause a flame war. If someone is offending you intentionally then please do not fuel the fire, report it to a GM or Moderator immediately.

Do not stalk, sexually harass or discriminate another player, person, or entity. Do not persistently harass a GM and defame a GM's person with lies and slander, you will find yourself quite banned. Rude players will also be dealt with justly if the GM team finds that that player is causing to many problems.

QuoteRule 14. Punishment Evasion

If you have an account banned due to rule violation then all other accounts owned of the same category whether they are tagged as banned or not, are considered off limits until the original ban sentence has completed. This is including but not limited too the muting and jailing of characters as well as iRC equivalents.

Logging on other accounts to dodge these sentences will be considered evasion and as such be subject to increased sentence periods with an addition to all other account(s) involved in the evasion. Setting up chats in order to speak publicly while muted can also be considered evasion.

Game Rules

QuoteRule 3. Chat/Vend and Streets

Do not put up chats or vends that would block or otherwise obstruct the view or clicking of an NPC, Portal, or other Player's chat or vend. Please also do not place chats or vends on Prontera streets, you may place them on the sidewalk only. The Prontera center fountain counts as part of the street. Half on street, half on sidewalk does not count, please refer to this image ( Click Here )

QuoteRule 9. Out of PvP Arena Player Killing

Whether you are intended to PK someone at random or not, you are strictly prohibited to guard spawn points where players portal in. You also cannot follow someone once they have walked away from portal spawn point, you must teleport away from spawn point and wait 30 seconds before proceeding to kill this player or player(s) Also in addition, you may not kill someone that is near/talking to a quest NPC.

QuoteRule 11. Broadcast and @main

Players may use broadcast and @main. However you cannot broadcast or @main to argue or "talk smack." This is including but not limited to, PvP disputes, WoE battles, Provoking Players, Player Slander, etc. Broadcast will not be used for conversation. However, it can be used for asking if someone is online, or telling the server you are looking for an item or congratulating someone during a certain time. @main can be used for general conversation, but please keep the general language in @main English.

QuoteRule 5. Trolling and Thread Hijacking

Users that tend to 'troll' the forums, while at the same time bending the rules, as a means of creating conflict will be punished. Saying 'smart alec' remarks intended to provoke the person or persons into a verbal argument in which usually was meant by the 'troller' to cause verbal insults and even harassment.

Please if the thread is not yours and the topic is quite clear, do not go off topic for a long period of time. This is also known as "thread hijacking" virtually stealing someone else's thread and filling it with unrelated posts... This can also be noted as spam.

QuoteAny violation of the rules above can and may lead to the following consequences without warning:

a) The removal of your post(s), character(s) or item(s).
b) The muting and or jailing of your character(s).
c) The temporary suspension of your account(s).
d) The permanent suspension of your account(s).
e) The permanent suspension of all things AeriaRO.

Note: Warnings may apply in some cases. For temporarily banned users, jailed users or muted users, the amount of time will differ depending on the severity of the rule violation. Also, players who have violated the rules several times with several warnings are subject to increased punishment with or without further warnings.

The term "Links" also includes hyperlinks and any hyperlink that can be contained in BBP/HTML or any other type of coding.

You may void these terms, only when you have; uninstalled and removed all AeriaRO files from your PC and discontinuing the use of AeriaRO related accounts. This is including but not limited to AeriaRO private channels, servers, web browser cookies, etc.

Either way I highly do not recommend this server, 1. Visions thinks "Anyone" can do a GMs job and thinks its easy to do correctly. 2. He thinks GMing isn't a job its a game... This is bad, this kind of thinking leads to corruption. He doesn't care about players/his own staff. That is a problem, clearly he just blindly fired most of the staff that put all of their hard work into the server without even getting to know them.

Either way, Radical Admin shifts = incredibly bad.

Edit: OH YEAH I almost forgot, 99% of the vulgar language in the screenshots are from Shah/Ash, they have MANY aliases....

I should also mention that I was the only one enforcing rules, banning bots, and one of the two people bothering with technical support.

http://www.aeriaro.net/main/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=18&thread_id=320
http://www.aeriaro.net/main/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=18&thread_id=347

Pandora · May 30, 2008, 08:31 AM

Really sucks for you and the time & effort you put in and for players to be stuck with an admin like that.

But try to see the good side, at least you wont have to deal with that rulebreaker again (unless you keep playing there x_x) and with your experience you can try to get hired on another server.

Good luck to ya ^^

mark_sanbeda · May 30, 2008, 09:00 AM

Episode 2 was a load of fun Lol i laughed so hard

baseballGuy · May 30, 2008, 09:30 AM

Almost ALL of them were vulgar or was it that its just the same retard who keeps creating chars LOL.

Reyl · May 30, 2008, 02:36 PM

Haha "The terror begins

!". Indeed.

We may have some differences in opinion on how and why players ought to be punished, but you've definitely been doing your job as defined by the rules. With so little explanation for your dismissal, there's really no question who's being ridiculous here.

Better luck next time. The only thing to do when a server goes downhill is leave.

Zone · May 30, 2008, 02:49 PM

What happened with Camui?
Camui!!!
I see you watching this topic, pm me or log in msn dude, it's been a good while since we last talked.

Loki · May 30, 2008, 09:55 PM

That sucks. Maybe you'll find another server where you don't have to deal with immature bastards.

EDIT: Maybe if you were still a GM, make them @killable. I would if I were on a bad mood.

Mewi · May 31, 2008, 02:57 AM

Quote from: kabuki07 on May 30, 2008, 09:55 PM
That sucks. Maybe you'll find another server where you don't have to deal with immature bastards.

EDIT: Maybe if you were still a GM, make them @killable. I would if I were on a bad mood.

Lol, while tempting, that would go against everything I believe in as a GM x3 I don't really believe in revenge, I only believe in informing people, and keeping my work out of the hands of people who are undeserving x3

we.eat.dim.sum · Jun 02, 2008, 02:59 PM

I am a former GM on aeriaRO, I do not have a problem with having been fired as the reasons why were given to each GM as I was told. Mewi was fired because GMing to her only extended to forums and in-game. If she knew the server was turning bad due to a few decisions, she could have voiced them, try to bring in more players, or any number of things, but she didn't. She chose to watch it happen. I was fired due to my personal issues and always needing to go on one month breaks every other month to deal with them. Fair enough I thought.

Quote from: Mewi on May 31, 2008, 02:57 AM
Lol, while tempting, that would go against everything I believe in as a GM x3 I don't really believe in revenge, I only believe in informing people, and keeping my work out of the hands of people who are undeserving x3

You don't really believe in revenge and yet have we not talked a few times on good terms, and in those times, have you not continually said that you target certain players because you know they'll stir up trouble. That could easily be thought of as baiting a player in so that you can ban them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no way to just know that a player is going to stir up trouble. And from my experience on the server, the trouble only began to escalate to such levels when you were on.

Mewi · Jun 02, 2008, 04:14 PM

Quote from: we.eat.dim.sum on Jun 02, 2008, 02:59 PM
I am a former GM on aeriaRO, I do not have a problem with having been fired as the reasons why were given to each GM as I was told. Mewi was fired because GMing to her only extended to forums and in-game. If she knew the server was turning bad due to a few decisions, she could have voiced them, try to bring in more players, or any number of things, but she didn't. She chose to watch it happen. I was fired due to my personal issues and always needing to go on one month breaks every other month to deal with them. Fair enough I thought.

Quote from: Mewi on May 31, 2008, 02:57 AM
Lol, while tempting, that would go against everything I believe in as a GM x3 I don't really believe in revenge, I only believe in informing people, and keeping my work out of the hands of people who are undeserving x3

You don't really believe in revenge and yet have we not talked a few times on good terms, and in those times, have you not continually said that you target certain players because you know they'll stir up trouble. That could easily be thought of as baiting a player in so that you can ban them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no way to just know that a player is going to stir up trouble. And from my experience on the server, the trouble only began to escalate to such levels when you were on.

I can only assume you are Pope***, You never truly decided to punish someone and when you did... you usually made it like 30 day mutes... You were frequently doing abusive things as a GM, allow me to specify, you would play with commands an inadvertently kill the entire server with @doom. You also messed around with the vender's in prontera... inadvertently taking away their carts and messing up their autotrades, vulgar guild titles on your legits, @broadcasting about the KKK and being offensive toward transsexuals/transgender based people. Making racist jokes, using the word "Ni**ers" on the @free channel to describe them.

As for revenge, "target"? If targeting means acknowledging that a certain player has violated the rules countless times and is consequently to become subject to further increased punishment when violating them in the future then... Yes I "targeted" them, but not for personal gain, but for justice? If you put someone in prison then let them lose, then they break the same law again, do you not put them in prison longer? That's not revenge, that's justice. So I apologize if there is a mix up in our communication.

Yes it is my fault that once I warn a player and that player ignores my warning then that player is punished... they hop on another account and start spamming vulgar language over @main? I had no ability to IP ban them to stop them from punishment evasion, the only option was to stop the offending accounts from continuing on the server. Should I sit there and allow them to break the rules as I was not hired to do? Should I sit there in @hide and just ignore it? I was expected to enforce the rules by Camui, and I did so as it was what I was hired to do. Their actions are not my actions, they had full control over their own actions, to place the blame on me for their rule violations is a bit odd...

As for the servers dying, I did on many occasions tell Camui he should hire an advertising staff to help increase the community. I must of mentioned this 20 times, I voiced my opinions quite well on what could help the server grow. However, my position was already to congested to with rule enforcement, technical support, bug tracking, general support, player communication, trying to get people vote and e-drama while at the same time looking for a new job in real life. Despite what you cant see on the server, I did try to get people to join, they joined for a short while... but eventually left. I also tried to get players to stay, like the PS guild and many others who wanted to leave.

So I don't think it truly fair to expect me to do the job of every GM or expect me to to exceed the role in which I was hired for ( In many cases I had already exceeded what I was hired for ). But now I feel as if people are placing the blame on me just because of something like "You should of did more" and to expect that I do not have a life of my own and possible other goals that do not intersect with AeriaRO, is that really fair to place that kind of expectation just because I wrote a negative review about a server that is clearly not working...?

Camui: Nice guy, but is to trusting and lets people walk all over him.
Hana: Hmm inactive but kind and works hard when she is active.
digitalHamster: A bit of a serious based person and wants everything his way, but hes not mean or anything. Could be worse ;p Very opinionated.
Pope: Active mostly but eventually became inactive I guess. I guess he was good at developing but he had a few problems as a GM, I don't dislike him though even though we got into a few arguments XD
Kikko: Sweet girl, very nice and liked to

at me XD and had very good opinions and asked good questions. I just wish she could of tried to show a bit more enforcement.

The problem with alot of RO servers is that Leniency and inaction generally leads to server failure. Developement will never grow a server alone. Advertising is usually the single most important thing for any server/company. I was not hired for advertisement thus I did not prioritize it as a job goal although I did suggest and try to get people to join.

we.eat.dim.sum · Jun 02, 2008, 07:33 PM

QuoteI can only assume you are Pope***, You never truly decided to punish someone and when you did... you usually made it like 30 day mutes... You were frequently doing abusive things as a GM, allow me to specify, you would play with commands an inadvertently kill the entire server with @doom. You also messed around with the vender's in prontera... inadvertently taking away their carts and messing up their autotrades, vulgar guild titles on your legits, @broadcasting about the KKK and being offensive toward transsexuals/transgender based people. Making racist jokes, using the word "Ni**ers" on the @free channel to describe them.

I only @doom the server once and it was an accident because I pressed enter before I finished typing out @doommap. As for my playing with the vendors, yeah I did. It did not mess up the autotrades because the vendors kept vending. As for the KKK remark, there was a wedding held where there were a whole bunch of NPCs wearing white hoodies which looked like KKK people. Sorry if that's how I chose to describe them. And I was never offensive towards gay's and what not. Especially if you consider the fact that half of the GM team was gay, bi, or lesbian. And last I checked @free channel was where anything could be said, so I wasn't out of bounds when it came to that channel. If you didn't want to hear the jokes that went on in that channel you could easily have not "monitored" it. OH WAIT! You weren't supposed to monitor it! In fact, no GM was supposed to monitor that channel because it was where ANY player could say ANYTHING without the fear of being punished. The chanell had to be manually turned on, so it wasn't like @main which turned on automatically. So if you were offended by anything in @free it would have been your own fault for going into a channel which you knew to be a channel for the purpose of being able to say offensive things to other players and where they could talk all the s*** they wanted. I also never used the word niggers on @free or anywhere. If I did, I would like to see your screen shots of it. And what vulgar guild titles do you speak of? The only guild titles on my legits I can think of are "<3 me some mewi" and ",,|,,".

I still fail to see any abuse of commands on my part. The 30 day mute was none other than who? Shah, Ash, or Khiz continually bashing on you. Forgive me for getting them to shut up. Then again, you DID target them in a way so that you could ban them. The slightest thing they did you banned them, and yet when one of your little kiss donkey fan club did anything in front of you, you did nothing until I took the time to point it out of just punished them myself.

And don't play the "they kept breaking the rules" s***. You banned the character which did the offense, and once that person logged into another character, READY TO LEAVE IT ALONE! You instantly banned them again. Not once, but all 10+ of their characters were banned because you saw it as "ban evasion", EVEN AFTER Camui told you, you can only ban an alternate character if they pursue the issue. And because of your continual bans even after being told that, you pissed off ash, shah, and khiz continually by banning multiple characters, which I or Camui would then have to unban because YOU were in fact abusing your powers as a GM and doing the exact opposite of what you were told to do.

It's amazing because you as a GM do not do a good job of damage control. You blow most every offense out of proportion. Bans are the only way you know how to punish players. Unfortunately, banning someone achieves nothing. How is it, that when I dealt with the people you so frequently banned, they never once reacted the same way they did when you dealt with them?

As for targeting players. You specifically told me once that you wait for certain people, Ash, shah, khiz, and pawnt, to say something so that you could ban them. Don't even deny that either.

Helrouis · Jun 02, 2008, 08:01 PM

I think better we stop this. >.>

Ash · Jun 02, 2008, 08:46 PM

Wow. I don't honestly know when GM Mewi posted this thread, but this is simply unfortunate; not only for the hardworking GMs such as Camui or digitalHamster, but also for many players supporting the server still. You guys want to listen to the story? I suggest you listen to both sides. GM-Mewi is pretty much the main reason aeriaRO declined from its population of 60+ to 20-30. Hiring her as a GM, means your server will die soon times or, a lot of players will be pissed off. Ok, so you guys probably think, I am such a vulgar person, and only me and Shah talks like that and gets banned over and over. Let me show you some evidence, although not as much screen shots as GM Mewi is showing, you will understand what point I am trying to make here. Here we go!

1. An Example of GM Mewi's hypocrisy. How, only when me and Shah, says anything sexually "inappropriate", it's a bannable offense.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/fat_comicbook_guy/screenAeriaRO023.jpg --->Here, we see another player, Pawnt, using "inappropriate" words, and all GM-Mewi seem to be busy doing is talking about other stuff. Where is your righteous mind now, mam?
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO106.jpg ---> Wow, epic screenie. Thanks GM Mewi. Here we see multiple cursing by other people beside me, and the only thing GM Mewi is focusing on seems to be, "banning Ash". In English, we, ladies and gentlemen, call that demonizing.

2. She uses in game character spies played by players who had personal vendetta against me, Shah or my guildies, as a way to gather resources and invade our privacy in different places. Let me show you gentlemen and ladies what I am illustrating.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO091.jpg ---> Terra is from opposing guild, and using her own personal feuds as a fuel to inform GM Mewi to go somewhere, so she can listen to our conversation, in "whatever" town, in order to implement a "Ban".
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO387.jpg ---> This time Lenneth is asking her to go to a private discussion between me and Shah, at south of Prontera. Again, Tonberry is a stalker, who is using her personal vendetta/feuds as a fuel to get us in trouble, and seems like GM Mewi wants the same.

3. She can't accept any joke and have zero to no humor. One of the biggest problem of her being a GM in a RO server. When you play with same people for a while, you tend to make fun of them using name calling. Please don't tell me, you don't; cause if you have a life, and you have friends, that's what you do at times.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO192.jpg ---> Now here, Reggie and me were just having a very random conversation out of boredom. For GM Mewi to even bring up this screenie to justify her case, if she has one, is absolutely absurd. Shows heavy discrimination.

4. GM Mewi often uses a logic such as, "There are many little kids playing RO", in order to justify her reason upon banning me and Shah over and over. Now Please let me remind you, Ragnarok Online is a rated "Teen" game. It is meant to have violence and some form of vulgarity. I am not emphasizing the fact that we should all go around saying F word everywhere, but it is meant to have some course language.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp ---> Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

5. She is posting screenies of trash talks on a @free channel, where as the Head GM of AeriaRO, Camui, said, "anything goes".
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO427.jpg ---> Are you kidding me? Not to mention the fact that, it has nothing to do with me or Shah. Probably just two players bored out of their mind on RO, which tends to happen quite a lot.

6. GM Mewi cannot handle simple insults or even sarcasm for that matter.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO442.jpg ---> You banned someone for that? I am sorry, but guys, do anyone really want a GM that bans characters over something as simple as that? Oh wait, we don't. Or maybe its because Proton is a character of Ash and Shah, so she insists on banning him over something as little as that.

7. GM Mewi invades personal conversation of random incidents between me and Shah, and uses that as a punishment against us.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO389.jpg ---> Here, me and Shah are talking about a NBA basketball player, named Kevin Durant, who Shah admires and I was describing him; how Durant is very skinny and needs to muscle up for NBA. But GM Mewi using her personal rage against us decides to use that as an evidence against us, which is an insult to freedom of speech anywhere.

8. As we.eat.dim.sum. was stating she was clearly abusing the "Ban Evasion Rule" the wrong way.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO396.jpg ---> Here she bans IRY XII for simply arguing an improper ban without using any form of course language.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO398-1.jpg ---> Again, the same scenerio as before. Also, as you can see "Lenneth" is quite happy with GM Mewi's actions, as it seems that their plans have succeeded. And guess what? Camui did unban us, since it was illegal to invade our private conversation.

9. Why me and Shah talked so much nonsense in Main chat? You shouldn't be asking that question, if you been following my post.

Finally and most importantly, I frankly do not give a s*** about GM Mewi anymore. She is gone from our server, and its a new beginning. Now that we actually have an active GM, who updates the server almost everyday and shows some initiative to improve AeriaRO, I am very happy for AeriaRO, as well as rest of the community. GM Mewi needlessly brought this to RMS forums, to antagonize a server that was hurt by her mistakes as well as mines. She is truly violating everything a GM should stand for, honesty, decency, hope and respect. Just because, she was fired, for her shortcomings, she has no right to demonize something so bluntly. Please do not prevent yourself from trying out AeriaRO, no matter how long it lasts for or what the future holds for us. AeriaRO was a unique experience for me before I decided to play little to almost none, and will be one in mere future. If anything, I ask of you all to look at what's been happening in this thread and re-think a lot before hiring a GM like GM Mewi. Thank you very much.

Mewi · Jun 02, 2008, 09:54 PM

Quote from: Ash on Jun 02, 2008, 08:46 PM
Wow. I don't honestly know when GM Mewi posted this thread, but this is simply unfortunate; not only for the hardworking GMs such as Camui or digitalHamster, but also for many players supporting the server still. You guys want to listen to the story? I suggest you listen to both sides. GM-Mewi is pretty much the main reason aeriaRO declined from its population of 60+ to 20-30. Hiring her as a GM, means your server will die soon times or, a lot of players will be pissed off. Ok, so you guys probably think, I am such a vulgar person, and only me and Shah talks like that and gets banned over and over. Let me show you some evidence, although not as much screen shots as GM Mewi is showing, you will understand what point I am trying to make here. Here we go!

1. An Example of GM Mewi's hypocrisy. How, only when me and Shah, says anything sexually "inappropriate", it's a bannable offense.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/fat_comicbook_guy/screenAeriaRO023.jpg --->Here, we see another player, Pawnt, using "inappropriate" words, and all GM-Mewi seem to be busy doing is talking about other stuff. Where is your righteous mind now, mam?
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO106.jpg ---> Wow, epic screenie. Thanks GM Mewi. Here we see multiple cursing by other people beside me, and the only thing GM Mewi is focusing on seems to be, "banning Ash". In English, we, ladies and gentlemen, call that demonizing.

2. She uses in game character spies played by players who had personal vendetta against me, Shah or my guildies, as a way to gather resources and invade our privacy in different places. Let me show you gentlemen and ladies what I am illustrating.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO091.jpg ---> Terra is from opposing guild, and using her own personal feuds as a fuel to inform GM Mewi to go somewhere, so she can listen to our conversation, in "whatever" town, in order to implement a "Ban".
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO387.jpg ---> This time Lenneth is asking her to go to a private discussion between me and Shah, at south of Prontera. Again, Tonberry is a stalker, who is using her personal vendetta/feuds as a fuel to get us in trouble, and seems like GM Mewi wants the same.

3. She can't accept any joke and have zero to no humor. One of the biggest problem of her being a GM in a RO server. When you play with same people for a while, you tend to make fun of them using name calling. Please don't tell me, you don't; cause if you have a life, and you have friends, that's what you do at times.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO192.jpg ---> Now here, Reggie and me were just having a very random conversation out of boredom. For GM Mewi to even bring up this screenie to justify her case, if she has one, is absolutely absurd. Shows heavy discrimination.

4. GM Mewi often uses a logic such as, "There are many little kids playing RO", in order to justify her reason upon banning me and Shah over and over. Now Please let me remind you, Ragnarok Online is a rated "Teen" game. It is meant to have violence and some form of vulgarity. I am not emphasizing the fact that we should all go around saying F word everywhere, but it is meant to have some course language.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp ---> Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

5. She is posting screenies of trash talks on a @free channel, where as the Head GM of AeriaRO, Camui, said, "anything goes".
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO427.jpg ---> Are you kidding me? Not to mention the fact that, it has nothing to do with me or Shah. Probably just two players bored out of their mind on RO, which tends to happen quite a lot.

6. GM Mewi cannot handle simple insults or even sarcasm for that matter.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO442.jpg ---> You banned someone for that? I am sorry, but guys, do anyone really want a GM that bans characters over something as simple as that? Oh wait, we don't. Or maybe its because Proton is a character of Ash and Shah, so she insists on banning him over something as little as that.

7. GM Mewi invades personal conversation of random incidents between me and Shah, and uses that as a punishment against us.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO389.jpg ---> Here, me and Shah are talking about a NBA basketball player, named Kevin Durant, who Shah admires and I was describing him; how Durant is very skinny and needs to muscle up for NBA. But GM Mewi using her personal rage against us decides to use that as an evidence against us, which is an insult to freedom of speech anywhere.

8. As we.eat.dim.sum. was stating she was clearly abusing the "Ban Evasion Rule" the wrong way.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO396.jpg ---> Here she bans IRY XII for simply arguing an improper ban without using any form of course language.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t132/mewimi/aeriaro/screenAeriaRO398-1.jpg ---> Again, the same scenerio as before. Also, as you can see "Lenneth" is quite happy with GM Mewi's actions, as it seems that their plans have succeeded. And guess what? Camui did unban us, since it was illegal to invade our private conversation.

9. Why me and Shah talked so much nonsense in Main chat? You shouldn't be asking that question, if you been following my post.

Finally and most importantly, I frankly do not give a s*** about GM Mewi anymore. She is gone from our server, and its a new beginning. Now that we actually have an active GM, who updates the server almost everyday and shows some initiative to improve AeriaRO, I am very happy for AeriaRO, as well as rest of the community. GM Mewi needlessly brought this to RMS forums, to antagonize a server that was hurt by her mistakes as well as mines. She is truly violating everything a GM should stand for, honesty, decency, hope and respect. Just because, she was fired, for her shortcomings, she has no right to demonize something so bluntly. Please do not prevent yourself from trying out AeriaRO, no matter how long it lasts for or what the future holds for us. AeriaRO was a unique experience for me before I decided to play little to almost none, and will be one in mere future. If anything, I ask of you all to look at what's been happening in this thread and re-think a lot before hiring a GM like GM Mewi. Thank you very much.

My order of screenshots is the same order as Ash's initial post.

Lets start, Screenshot #1 I am pretty positive I muted Pawnt for that. You think I am using favoritism with Pawnt? He was muted multiple times, I even banned him for 3 or more days at one point. Don't believe me? Ask him yourself~

Screenshot #2, I was busy banning you for ban evasion clearly. Either way I do believe I muted him during or around that time anyway. Again, ask Pawnt, or I can get one of his friends to ask him to post here.

Screenshot #3, whether or not the person WHO reported you had a personal grudge toward you. That does NOT change the fact that you were breaking a rule "No chat/vend in prontera streets." Take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to place the blame on others. I did not even punish you for that anyway, I simply dc'd your characters.

Screenshot #4, Take a closer look at this screenshot it is in a public area, using NORMAL chat, in the CENTER of Prontera, with OTHER people around. This is a clear and blatant violation to the rules of no public vulgarity. Not to mention that you are speaking poorly about another player, whomever that may be is simply NOT okay. Even if they are the "provoking party" you should report them to me, not indulge yourself in a personal crusade. ily camilla says, "suck on this its not artificial stupid tranny" @ Tonberry ( Lenneth ) This type of language is simply not okay.

Screenshot#7, again same thing, public vulgarity , trying to seperate the screenshots to make it look like a different instance. Screenshot #4, and Screenshot #7 = Same occasion.

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Screenshot #5, I said in my previous post that some screenshots may have got mixed up in there. I had to upload ALOT of screenshots had you not noticed.

Screenshot #6, Said user was suppose to be permanently banned and Ip banned at this time. The user had made many rude statements and the rules did state that Ban Evasion was 1 against the rules, and that "Rude Players" may be punished. Please refer to the time index of each screenshot for evidence that he was in fact previously banned.

Screenshot #8, As repeated countless times, Id o not know how many. That once you are banned, all previously owned accounts become OFFLIMITS, There is a clear reason for this rule. What punishment would someone learn if they could just hop on a different account with the thinking that "oh ill just level my soul linker while I'm banned no biggy" This creates a conflict of interest, and doesn't really teach the offending player that the rule violation was not okay. If you get put in prison for hitting someone with your car do you get an out of jail free card because you have another shiny car?

Why shah and ash talk so much nonsense on @main? Why was I hired to punish players like them for talking such " nonsense?"

Pope's post regarding "Ban Evasion" was a huge problem during our time working together. He thought Ban evasion was defined only by IP ban evasion. Which is simply not the case, and in case you thought my ban evasion was injustice, allow me to elaborate. I did in fact check to make sure it wasn't, and came to the conclusion that it wasn't because I asked other GM's and players what they thought about it. Considering that Camui did not disagree with me regarding Ban Evasion I of course continued to enforce the rule as it was.

Either way, part of your confliction Pope was that you interfered with another GMs bans, you did not have experience as a GM, you were a developer. You can state you were a GM but you did not do any of the roles I did... you only stepped in to tell someone a rule wasnt a rule ( ban evasion ) when it was written in plain text in the rules section. When I ban someone, I ban a person, not a character, a character does not violate rules because it is made up of pixels. I am banning a person, the entity behind the RO sprite.

I think it's obvious what happens when a Rule exists... it doesn't become non existence just because you do not agree with it. The rule was there, Camui had no objection to the rule, and never once stated an objection toward my person. He knew very well what the rule entailed and why it was there. The fact is, it was a rule on the server, so you cannot be arguing that I used false judgment when banning them.

So in case you think I carelessly banned ( ash/shah ) without questioning my own methods. Please Refer to RMS thread below.

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/gamemaster-talk/ban-evasion/0/

Ash · Jun 02, 2008, 11:14 PM

QuoteLets start, Screenshot #1 I am pretty positive I muted Pawnt for that. You think I am using favoritism with Pawnt? He was muted multiple times, I even banned him for 3 or more days at one point. Don't believe me? Ask him yourself~

Well thats great. But, you didn't ban him for saying that, like you did to us. Lemme see, permanent account bans on our case for similar language and you are saying you are "pretty positive" you "muted" him? Sorry, but thats favoritism.

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Screenshot #2, I was busy banning you for ban evasion clearly. Either way I do believe I muted him during or around that time anyway. Again, ask Pawnt, or I can get one of his friends to ask him to post here.

You have no proof. Again, you might have muted him at other times, but I clearly remember you didn't and that doesn't cut it. You was "busy" banning me? Wow, you are a very fair GM. Thank you very much for proving one of my biggest point.

QuoteScreenshot #3, whether or not the person WHO reported you had a personal grudge toward you. That does NOT change the fact that you were breaking a rule "No chat/vend in prontera streets." Take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to place the blame on others. I did not even punish you for that anyway, I simply dc'd your characters.

I am sorry, I don't see the guilt or rule breaking in using bad language in my own town, among my own guildies. Again, thanks for proving my point that you violate people's privacy, in order to find excuses to ban them.

QuoteScreenshot #4, Take a closer look at this screenshot it is in a public area, using NORMAL chat, in the CENTER of Prontera, with OTHER people around. This is a clear and blatant violation to the rules of no public vulgarity. Not to mention that you are speaking poorly about another player, whomever that may be is simply NOT okay. Even if they are the "provoking party" you should report them to me, not indulge yourself in a personal crusade. ily camilla says, "suck on this its not artificial stupid tranny" @ Tonberry ( Lenneth ) This type of language is simply not okay.

For any confused souls who can't view a RO town map properly,
Center of Prontera ---> http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/fat_comicbook_guy/screenAeriaRO029.jpg
South of Prontera ---> http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/fat_comicbook_guy/screenAeriaRO030.jpg
The trash talk about Lenneth started after initial provoke from her; we just replied back. Thank you again for proving me correct that you are delusional about pretty much everything.

QuoteScreenshot#7, again same thing, public vulgarity , trying to seperate the screenshots to make it look like a different instance. Screenshot #4, and Screenshot #7 = Same occasion.

I fail to see how a private conversation between two people about a NBA player involves with public vulgarity. Thank you for proving yourself desperate to ban people yet again.

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Nope, it's rated Teen. Get your sources right, or is getting anything right ever possible for you? http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/ragnarokonline/index.html?tag=result;img;0
http://iro.ragnarokonline.com/

QuoteScreenshot #5, I said in my previous post that some screenshots may have got mixed up in there. I had to upload ALOT of screenshots had you not noticed.

Doesn't change the fact that you still feed on @Free channel as a way to bad name the server and post on a public forums. Again, shows how much responsibility you lack and how careless you are as a GM or as a anything, really.

QuoteScreenshot #6, Said user was suppose to be permanently banned and Ip banned at this time. The user had made many rude statements and the rules did state that Ban Evasion was 1 against the rules, and that "Rude Players" may be punished. Please refer to the time index of each screenshot for evidence that he was in fact previously banned.

You are making no sense whatsoever. The fact is the screenie is a sole proof of a Ban over something as little as that and you have no other excuses for banning that character. Again, it goes to show how you are discriminating against players that have been banned before by "you" and just repeatedly banning them just cause they are previous "offenders" in 'your" vocabulary.

QuoteScreenshot #8, As repeated countless times, Id o not know how many. That once you are banned, all previously owned accounts become OFFLIMITS, There is a clear reason for this rule. What punishment would someone learn if they could just hop on a different account with the thinking that "oh ill just level my soul linker while I'm banned no biggy" This creates a conflict of interest, and doesn't really teach the offending player that the rule violation was not okay. If you get put in prison for hitting someone with your car do you get an out of jail free card because you have another shiny car?

Wait, What? That again makes no sense. All I am saying is, the head GM and the owner of the server strictly, asked you to NOT ban people, because they are logging in different accounts after they get banned. Different accounts doesn't change the fact that you banned one account. All I am saying is that, you violated a clear instruction that was given to you by Camui. Even you "co-worker" as it would be, since you think of GMing as a career, accused you of doing the same. So, don't go around saying otherwise in a public forum.

QuoteWhy shah and ash talk so much nonsense on @main? Why was I hired to punish players like them for talking such " nonsense?"

There wouldn't be nonsense, unless you make people say nonsense. I didn't see one other GM complaining about nonsense as much as you did or even demonizing the same people over and over, as much as you did. So again, why did me and Shah talk to much nonsense? You shouldn't be asking that.

QuotePope's post regarding "Ban Evasion" was a huge problem during our time working together. He thought Ban evasion was defined only by IP ban evasion. Which is simply not the case, and in case you thought my ban evasion was injustice, allow me to elaborate. I did in fact check to make sure it wasn't, and came to the conclusion that it wasn't because I asked other GM's and players what they thought about it. Considering that Camui did not disagree with me regarding Ban Evasion I of course continued to enforce the rule as it was.

Sorry to say, he did disagree. Ban evasion would be so that if you banned "someone" from the server and he kept logging on using different IP; not if you banned "someone's account", cause then he can log on other accounts of his or his friends and has the right to do so. I think that is pretty darn obvious, but you were too busy demonizing players, you wouldn't understand the difference.

Again, you keep writting bibles hoping I or anyone else from AeriaRO wouldn't be able to back our server up. But, guess what, a person with your attitude and tone, have poisoned one server, no more. I promise you that. If it does happen, my prayers are with that server and it's folks.

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