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Daifuku.

Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 06:12 PM
What exactly is this research? Because if it is simply about an arbitrary mid rate server managed by arbitrary people, then the answer is simple, no one cares.
The research is to figure out how many players are looking for a mid-rate server in general and how many would join if it was led by me with rest of the people I listed up.
There are people that care and people that are interested. Most people that replied here have been supportive and showed interest.
Oh, and as a matter of fact, I have received over 100+ votes for yes without giving any information other than it being a pre-renewal mid-rate server.

Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 06:12 PM
Again, you haven't provide any context as to who these people are and why we should care. Unless this is just a shameless plug.
Since I am not entirely sure which people you are talking about I will answer both:
1. The people I am working with are known mid-rate developer/admins and had servers running under their name for 2-5 years.
So the majority of the MR players probably already played at least once on their server or should know who they are. If they don't they are free to simply close the tab or vote for no if there is no interest in a server made by us.

2. The people who wrote me over the past weeks are old players from Elaria Woon Reloaded. I can provide proof if you don't believe me.
In case you are asking why I'm still doing this research despite people asking me already: It's because even with those people messaging me, this research is still needed to get a broader picture.
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Please do yourself a favor and don't generalize your personal opinion by using "we" and "no one".  If no one really cared or interested, no one would have replied. Yourself included.

Quote from: SukiChii on Jul 14, 2017, 06:38 PM
How can I support you if I don't know what you're doing?
What are the rates? Is it Pre-renewal or Renewal? Content?
It would be a pre-renewal mid-rate server.
The idea of is to know whether you would generally be interested in a new mid-rate server, despite not knowing me or the server setup.
So would you be up for a new adventure on a MR?

Bue

#31
I post in server discussion all the time and your shameless self promotion under the disguise of research caught my attention. So feel free to exclude me from the cared and interested list.

And what has changed since this announcement? http://imgur.com/rkIbyFu

IvoryMouse

Going through the comments, people are more or less concerned about your overall drive/ambition on what you want out of a server. Not what we the players want. We know what we want already and if your server doesn't provide it, we'll skip town. Trying to cater to everyone is foolish. You can't please everyone, so don't try.
Looking for: English/NA RO Server. 255/50 Pre-Renewal (Non-Kiel Based) Server OR Highly Custom 2nd Job Renewal Server. No Pay To Win.

Bue

#33
Read this thread. That is exactly what happened.

Apparently, this isn't OP's first time doing this. And there was definitely some resentment towards the community at the end; http://imgur.com/udiu1Ne.


SukiChii

#34
Oh dear God.
I think I read that thread once.

Don't do it.

Oh this: http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/re-looking-for-a-server-that-can-serve-as-my-home-again

Bue

#35
Judging by the thread and how its only been a month or two, OP would be doing herself a favor if she didn't open another mid rate server. It also doesn't help that their primary developer, Nihad, is busy running a martial arts school and has real life commitments than to dedicate time to the server. Unless, OP gets Torben to help again, but even he is busy with his own business.

QuoteOh this: http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/re-looking-for-a-server-that-can-serve-as-my-home-again

The resentment is real.

My guess is that they are amateurs and the work-to-profit was in the negative with the work itself being overwhelming, so they end up taking out their frustration on the community. But rather than walking away, they wanted to force a reset instead and try to turn a profit again. So here we are.

Kris

#36
Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 06:12 PM
What exactly is this research? Because if it is simply about an arbitrary mid rate server managed by arbitrary people, then the answer is simple, no one cares.


According to my research, no one cares about you. With that being said, it was established on a previous thread that you lack the mindset of a rational thinker, which means your opinion can never be taken seriously.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that there will always be room for a decent mid rate. Take Yrvine for example, he's had 4 mid rates listed in the top 5 mid rate section of RMS in the span of just 4 years. He hasn't changed a single feature in any of his last 4 servers except for the servers name i.e CaseRO, TalisRO, OnceRO & AbraRO and yet has still managed to milk the mid rate community.

Having first-hand experience of playing a Daifuku server, I can vouch for the fact that it will not be a yrvine copy-paste server and that she will actually invest multiple hours in providing unique content for the MR community.

Side note to @Daifuku - Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution

Side note to @Reality - Whattup my g, been a minute

Side note to @Develon - why is your dumb a$$ on RMS ?
2k21 Return

neilpatrick

Many people are bashing Daifuku, I don't know about you guys but what I understand about this thread is she is only asking the community if they are still interested in a new Mid Rate server that is hosted by her and her team.

I have no idea  about the demand on Mid rates but I think Low rates have the much bigger demand, pre-renewal low rates are very rare right now IMO

Shourei

Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 08:55 PM
I post in server discussion all the time and your shameless self promotion under the disguise of research caught my attention. So feel free to exclude me from the cared and interested list.

And what has changed since this announcement? http://imgur.com/rkIbyFu

Greetings. You're talking to one of those changes. I am a representative of your regular players. Whilst it may be irrelevant to some, I have a player-based mindset (That means what I want may align with what you want). In this potential project, I will be in charge of sorting out information that floats around. Of course, this survey included. So I can assure you that we are doing it without the intention of self-promotion.

Given the survey result is favourable, the next step will be aligning our mid-rate ideology to other mid-rate players.
So if you are still interested then, do share your opinion (opinions that are actually relevant, if you will).

I'll also take this chance to thank everyone else who has given their opinion and/or have turned in the survey.
Feel free to give your piece of mind on their ideal mid-rate server.

While we cannot please everyone, we are aiming for one that is beneficial for the greater good,  and not some s*** servers. I'm through with those. Everyone is through with those, I'm sure. -- Wouldn't be stepping into the other side otherwise.

Daifuku.

#39
Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 11:40 PM
OP would be doing herself a favor if she didn't open another mid rate server. It also doesn't help that their primary developer, Nihad, is busy running a martial arts school and has real life commitments than to dedicate time to the server. Unless, OP gets Torben to help again, but even he is busy with his own business.

The more you post, the more I get the feeling that this is rather a personal problem against me than anything else.
Why else would you go all your way out to search for a picture of me on our old forum which has been posted months ago? Kinda hilarious imo.
But if you are going to showcase my face to the RMS community use a more up-to-date picture. [Here's  one with my little puppy.]
I am not ashamed of showing myself nor have to hide my identity like others. I don't have to pretend to be an untouchable admin. I'm just a human after all. /no1

Nihad started his business last year december and clarified that he would be available again shortly after which he was starting february.
He can spend daily 2-3 hours on RO related content which is far more than other developer can do.
Please, just stop throwing old as topics into this discussion.

To clarify it one last time, because this back and forth between Bue and me is getting ridiculous:

Elaria Woon Reloaded was a low-midrate fun project between Nihad and I. People expected something different even though it was advertised as such and got disappointed.
We decided to revamp the server in favor of the community and put a lot of effort into everything. I build the community in September last year, I rebuilded it in December last year and when I came back from my vacation in March I tried to rebuild the community again but it didn't work because the server has been through too much within 8 months, so it was shut down.
There has been mistakes from the side of the Staff such as from the community. I will never announce myself as a great admin, everyone has flaws but in comparison to most "known" admins in the mid-rate scene I consider myself one of the very few that actually care about their project and community.

That being said, Bue, thank you for keeping this discussion up by replying to everything and everyone - it surely made a few people click on the topic and leave a vote on the poll.

Quote from: neilpatrick on Jul 15, 2017, 05:11 AM
Many people are bashing Daifuku
It's actually less than a hand full of people on RMS that bash on me while I get supported by over 100s of people with my research - so it's honestly completely fine.

Chemical Crush

Bue,

Why would you go out of your way to post a picture of Daifuku?  Like...thats a little creepy imo.  What does what she looks like have to do with the topic at hand?  Also, I feel like you're just personally attacking her.  Dai seriously just wanted to know if people would be interested in joining a server ran by her again.  Jesus.

Dai,

I still think you should make a low rate instead, but thats just me.  :D

Evin

Quote from: Bue on Jul 14, 2017, 11:40 PM
Judging by the thread and how its only been a month or two, OP would be doing herself a favor if she didn't open another mid rate server.
Da f***? Did she piss in your cereal or some s***? Do you have some sort of hate boner for her? I can understand the criticism towards her admin ability, but to go out of your way to post her pic and judge it here? That's kinda creepy.

neilpatrick

Quote from: Chemical Crush on Jul 15, 2017, 06:46 AM
Dai,

I still think you should make a low rate instead, but thats just me.  :D

I'm with Chemical Crush with this, though the decision will still be up to you ofcourse :)

NovaPanic

If creating another Mid-Rate server is something you want to do, then do it, if not then don't. I wouldn't worry about the opinions of others, I think that was your biggest issues when it came to Elaria Woon Reloaded, spent too much time trying to wait on the player base hand and foot instead of just doing things how you wanted regardless of the results. That's what I gathered from skimming over the various s*** posts here anyways.

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you luck in your endeavors.

jacobo_bobo

Quote from: NovaPanic on Jul 15, 2017, 07:56 AM
If creating another Mid-Rate server is something you want to do, then do it, if not then don't. I wouldn't worry about the opinions of others, I think that was your biggest issues when it came to Elaria Woon Reloaded, spent too much time trying to wait on the player base hand and foot instead of just doing things how you wanted regardless of the results. That's what I gathered from skimming over the various s*** posts here anyways.

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you luck in your endeavors.

^^^^ this.

To be honest, I never played your server but I remember clearly a lot of whining and complaining about how players did not appreciate your work, how you made a server with pure cosmetics on donations and people still didn't like it. In short, a lot of crying about how you tried so hard to please people and people were still not pleased. I'm sure you can still find those topics on these boards...players leaving not-so-good reviews and you arguing about how the changes you made were for their own good, except none of them liked them. This is why I said "- please not again!". I don't want to see RMS filled with QQ about why people don't enjoy your server and why you have a hard time making it grow...