"Care Bear" Servers

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Head Monocle of DOOM

Quote from: JJJ on Jan 02, 2009, 04:35 AM
Quote from: Head Monocle of DOOM on Jan 02, 2009, 04:29 AM
Is it kiddy insults or nazi grade insults?
mmmm just for the heck of it lets say its the latter?
Alrighty then. Server A is not a Care Bear server and Server B would soon find a bunch of people sending bad reviews to RMS creating our daily rations of drama. In fact Server B should be ashamed of themselves for being so lazy as to not have at least thrown up a mute on person X.
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Gabrielle

depends on the insults really in that case, I'd agree, and possibly location. couple cases in point:

-New person logs in to check server out, has done /who, and @commands to check what is availiable. player 2 logs in, walks up to them, calls them a foul name, walks off. Since that sets a bad precident for the server with new people, should be acted on, and the person at least warned that it's unacceptable to use that language in the novice area. Jailing or anything more for this is too extreme, muting too, a warning on the first offense and mute on second, etc

-Old players in PVP, one keeps getting ganged, calls the ones teaming some choice names, gets called names back, then ganged more. The person ganged then reports the players for "harassment". I'd give the 2nd response for this, tell the person that it's PVP, and that it's the nature of the competition, and if they want to PVP more, and don't want to get ganged, pull up a team of their guild and go mess stuff up a  bit themselves.

-Any straight, extreme Racist/derogatory remarks, calling people ANY racial slur as a derogatory term meant to insult them regardless of the target's race, I'd probably mute, jail OR ban for a day depending on the severity of the infraction. People should know way better then that. There's that whole grey area here with Racial pride and "Owning" words that were once derogatory, but that's just weird, since it's apparantly ok if someone of the same race uses it between eachother, but the second you throw in someone not offiliated with that race, it's insulting, even when used in the same context

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Guest

#17
mkay, but where do you draw the line between, no punishment, and mutes?


i mean, like what kind of insult, and how does it have to be directed / used to deserve a punishment?
Gabrielle already answered the racial insult part


Edit: in fact Gabrielle answered a lot of them XD

okay so new question i guess,
if i walk up to a new player and call them an "idiot" does that deserve punishment?
if i walk up to a normal player and call them an "idiot" does that deserve a punishment?
and if i walk up to someone in pvp and call them an "idiot" does that deserve a punishment?

and if it doesn't desver a punishement, what would i have to do in those 3 places to get one?

Gabrielle

#18
It's all dependant on the infraction itself. No situation is identical to another, thus each needs it's own thought process behind it, and consideration. You can widely guess what the range of the punishment would be, but until a problem happens, you can't accurately really gauge what the final decision as to the correction will end as. Extenuating circumstances and all. That's my approach to moderation, anyways, and it works quite well


Edit : XD

1: warning that it's not acceptable, maybe mute/jail if it's done constantly, and consistantly. Attacking new people to the server isn't cool
2: no, because the easiest way to counter that and still feel "Good" is saying "why thank you! :D". Could be increased to a stern warning if instead of idiot, it's a string of curse words for no reason at all, and I mean like "F u u f'n fr go f ur mom" crap. I'd probably just remind them about 9 year olds playing RO if someone just said "F u" to someone. Racism gets a mute or more
3: no, it's pvp. Only if Racism gets really called into it OR the name calling is dragged into the extreme, out of server, onto the forums, out into interweb, etc.

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Let the punishment fit the crime. Time's 2 for repeat offenders.
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Littlechan

I think...insult that doesn't have a reason deserve a punishment...

I mean, example:

A go to PVP, got killed, and insult the killer, depends on the insult (no racism, maybe just...something like...d*mn? can't thing any worse than that XD) can be leave no punished, since A's angry and doesn't have clear mind.

B was sitting at prontera, when someone come to him, and says "d*mn you" and then walk off, then he deserve a punishment...

that's just my opinion...anyone want to correct it? please then XD


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Dean Stark

saying "idiot" doesn't seem so harsh as most new players are well aware of what the internet/RO is... it's a commonly used word that it's not so.... so....... argh idk the word! (safe? not sure)... as for pvp i don't think that deserves any punishment cause the ppl that normally hang there have way more insulting words that sometimes it goes personal, which is quite common in HR's and SHR's. and it's also natural for a GM not to be concerned by just one person alone unless you're trying so hard to start a drama or something. so i guess doing those stuff won't get you punished...

UNLESS!!! there's a goody, kiddie, and all that crap server named BarneyRO that bans even the word "stupid". then i'd guess you'd get punished there.

omg i don't even know what i'm saying... hope that helps ._.

Littlechan

Quote from: Dean Stark on Jan 02, 2009, 06:42 AM
saying "idiot" doesn't seem so harsh as most new players are well aware of what the internet/RO is... it's a commonly used word that it's not so.... so....... argh idk the word! (safe? not sure)... as for pvp i don't think that deserves any punishment cause the ppl that normally hang there have way more insulting words that sometimes it goes personal, which is quite common in HR's and SHR's. and it's also natural for a GM not to be concerned by just one person alone unless you're trying so hard to start a drama or something. so i guess doing those stuff won't get you punished...

UNLESS!!! there's a goody, kiddie, and all that crap server named BarneyRO that bans even the word "stupid". then i'd guess you'd get punished there.

omg i don't even know what i'm saying... hope that helps ._.

I have same opinions with you XD


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Dean Stark

Quote from: Littlechan on Jan 02, 2009, 07:08 AM
I have same opinions with you XD

XD <3 =]

if only names aren't withheld, i would love to mention one server which simply talking trash and sh*t (sorry Littlechan ='(... ) are quite carebear-ish for them... i'd love to write a review but i'm too lazy cause it only involves the community anyways but if i start one it's gonna be a rant and sure of it and it's gonna be fairly long

back to topic: every server turns carebarish once a new server pops up w/ more dramas/QQs/Flames/corruptions that the previous
it's like this... two guys are talking... so guy 1 says "dude, my server has a buncha corruptions and GM's giving donor items for free to their friends!" and guy 2 says "lmao, that's carebarish imo. mine more has blah blah blah flames, blah blah blah QQs, blah blah blah insults, blah blah noobs, haxzor kthxbai, better than you, etc etc than yours!"

thing is, only the most recent server with the most conflicts to rise is the only true non-carebarish server. other servers w/ severe conflicts are carebarish enough if they don't match up to any that has more problems.

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Littlechan

@Dean Stark

sorry for what? o.O?

on topic:

can this included to care bear meaning:

a server that banning people because the admin/GM got killed in PvP?


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Dean Stark

#25
i rarely swear unless provoked...

@J3... can i at least post Quotes or links about the server i'm talking about? or at least not say anything in the review section and go for "see for yourself *posts links*" instead?

just read the review rules =(

but do you think it's ok to write anything that doesn't involve any GM/admin whatsoever and just the community?

Kee

Quote from: JJJ on Jan 02, 2009, 04:24 AM
mmmm mkay question for you all then~

lets say theres person X

now person X plays in 2 servers, in both servers he picks a person and starts insulting them:

but in server A, he is muted + jailed for harassment
but in server B, nothing is done to him, and the victim is told to use /ex or walk away next time


is server A a "care bear" server?

I think its all up to personal opinion, but in mine, yes, server A is care bear-ish. Players should be smart enough to be able to avoid confrontation if they don't want it.

What would you do IRL if someone was calling you names? The smart thing to do would be walk away, ignore them, THEN if they continue, find someone of authority, a police officer (IG GM), and ask for assistance.

Srsly, some people need to grow a pair. Not saying that about anyone in this topic so far, mind you.

asdfqwerty123

My understanding of the term must be off.  I understood "Care Bear Server" as meaning a server which enforces playing nice and G-rated conversations. The first time I heard it was when someone called my server a Care Bear server, which I didn't take as an insult, in fact that's kind of what I was going for from what I understood. Family friendly target audience, chat filtering, and not allowing others to harass players or use foul language by muting them. I thought it was funny though, I played a game called "NationStates" once for about a month. I named my nation "The Oppressed Peoples of Care Bear Kingdom". It was quite hilarious to read about the corrupt dictatorship where people were executed in the streets daily (eliminates the need for prisons) and children were forced into military camps at a young age to instill a service to country. Cell phones and cars were banned and people were forced to learn 5 languages and eat less than sanitary food while listening to daily nationalist propaganda. Yes, the rules on my server can be unfair and pointless in your opinion, just don't call it a democracy. I'm the oppressive dictator of Care Bear Kingdom. Have a nice day... or else!  ;)

Gabrielle

lol! Well said, Zairik!

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