Need help to protect against ninja's final strike

Started by Jebus, Aug 12, 2009, 09:43 AM

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Jebus

#15
Thanks for that Sarin, i will post this in our guild forum and what the other guild members has to say about this.

I forgot to say this but this ninja isnt even 99 yet
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SilverStream~

It could be that he has some kind of illegal item, maybe created by a gm.



Glad to see people notice things like this and talk about them, not doing anything creates alot of rumors and disturbance through out the server, giving the gm's and some players a bad reputation.
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Jebus

#17
It turns out that ninja is customized. Gs is also gonna be customized cause someone thought they was to weak and become just useless when 3rd class comes out. Although that ninja is just extreme, hes able to do 12k with 60% reduction gear.

And also we dont have any gm so its impossible to have illegal items :P Our server is runned by players who decide whats gonna happen in the server, and by server owner who do the scripting
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Annihilate

i agree with silverstream, his stats may be overboard because of GM edits. (extra statpoints or something like that) bc i think final strike wasnt meant to be as strong as asura. After raydric thara and FB, sarin says the damage is cut down to 28.8% so if he can 1-hit-KO someone with 14k HP, then his HP must be about 14k/0.288 = about 49000 HP, which is pretty impossible even with a tao gunka card.


eww. Customised to get 49K HP? Thats insane.

Jebus

It seems that FS skill calculation is the same as Extreme fist, so its basically the same as EF, so he does not have 50k hp :S

EDIT: Extreme fist = Asura
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Annihilate

from an older thread the calculation is

(STR*40) + (HP*80%)

so suppose his str is 150 [which is a generous estimate] then the equation will be:

0.288[150*40 + HP*0.8] = 14000 [the amount of damage after reductions from FB, Thara and Raydric]

solving for HP, HP = about 53K


Crazeh.

Sarin

Actually, modifiers (hydra etc...) seem to work on FS. Anyway, it still cuts down the required HP to about 28k, but Ninja can't get much over 18k even with Tao and full vit equip.

SilverStream~

Now all the players will make ninja's and become overpowered and then they will realise that "the server owner made a mistake" and will blame him for the unbalanced class.
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Annihilate

Quote from: SilverStream~ on Aug 13, 2009, 03:52 PM
Now all the players will make ninja's and become overpowered and then they will realise that "the server owner made a mistake" and will blame him for the unbalanced class.

then the GMs nerf ninjas
then everybody gets pissed because they made ninjas for that sole reason
then they complain
then the GM will be torn between putting it back to assuage the masses
or letting it stay nerfed which may cause a mass exodus of players. D:

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bleu

Quote from: Jebus on Aug 12, 2009, 09:43 AM
In woe we are struggling against a ninja who spam berry's and keeps using fs, i am just wondering what is good for protection against it ? Since we all get 1 hit by it. Any cards or gear ?

Untested, but I believe Kaupe will make him miss.