Hello my fellow RO players,
in the past 4 months I've been playing on the RO server ZealRO, which is/was owned by the former Admin of AvidRO and met its same fate.
First of all I'm not a hater I'll try to be fair in every way possible.
WHAT happened?
2 Days ago on friday 13.02.2015 the server had a wipe the admin is excusing this wipe with corruption in the staff by one of the GMs "Kenny".
However, this GM was a support GM he didn't have @zeny nor @refine nor @item nor @spawn or anything like that, the Admin - Zeal claims though that Kenny put millions of Zeny and +10 items onto the server which is why it needs to be wiped, even more ridiculous he wants the server to be restarted @ first of march but the people who donated will only get 50% of their money donated back into Gold Coins(Cash Points however it's called on most servers).
So basically Zeal wipes the server so people lose all their earned zeny/donation items and gives half of them back.
Why would Zeal lie about a GM cheating?
Well that's simple Kenny and another GM "Abigail" were the most active GMs on the server also most helpful ones with the most competence. However, Kenny got frustrated due to the decaying population caused by permant lag spikes,(these existed already on the first day and the staff didn't bother to fix them, Zeal even told me in private chat 5 weeks or so before the wipe that these lag spikes are caused by bad coding and it will take max 2 weeks to fix them but they never were fixed) bad management and inactivity by the Head GM and Admins for several weeks. So in the end he finally decided to quit. He misbehaved by kicking merchants and using his only GM power which could be abused: @save and then warping with the acolyte skills to the top of thanatos tower, on this day not a single thanatos was killed, still Zeal says that this event destroyed the economy and the server needs to get wiped due to that. It's proven that this power was never abused since on the website there was a MVP counter showing which MVP was killed at which time. As Mentioned above, Zeal also claimed that Kenny put billions of zeny (with a non existant @zeny command) into the server, but the richest player had about 400-500million which wasn't even from Kennys private characters guild.
How do I know that Kenny isn't guilty?
I'm a good friend of Kenny, I had account success to his private characters and he had mine thus I KNOW that he never had such gears as Zeal claimed he had. The best item which was on his account was a pair of +9 Diablos Boots, which he was given by me as I had monopole on Wounded Morroc and after getting more than 80 pairs of these its not surprising that you get at least 1 +9 out of them (with enriched metals).
Why am I doing this?
For the simple reason that I don't want a friend to be accused for doing bad stuff, abusing his role as a GM. The people who knew him know that he's competent friendly and was probably together with the other GM (Abigail) the most active part of the staff. Also, I don't want new players to get scammed by this Admin as other people did.
I'm posting into this RMS forum since Zeal deleted all my posts from the server forum (ofcourse he doesn't want other people to find out that he's lying) and finally banned me.
I want to add that many reviews even in the forum were written by staff members. One of the staff members (Blackcat) more or less bought his GM account from zeal by donating several hundred $ until Zeal promoted him. This guy also made a review in the forum, a fake positive one.
My conclusion
ZealRO was a balanced server regarding item balance and economy but the inactive staff, the will to fix bad coding causing lag, false accusations and finally alot of incompetence broke it. Do not join this server on relaunch at 01.03.2015 as the admin just wants to make money and stopped caring about his server anyway and it's VERY VERY likely that it will close down after just a few weeks again anyway.
PS: Sorry for my english I'm not a native speaker
You made a mistake :)
QuoteI've been playing on the RO server ZealRO, which is/was owned by the former Admin of AvidRO and met its same fate.
Im not Avid.
Quotebut the people who donated will only get 50% of their money donated back into Gold Coins(Cash Points however it's called on most servers).
So basically Zeal wipes the server so people lose all their earned zeny/donation items and gives half of them back.
Its 100%
Bad press is good press, looking forward to this topic /no1
Tell me how Kenny was corrupt? What +10 items? What billions of zeny did he put onto the server?
Also is that all you have to say about it?
+1 to Arias.
I also tried to say the same on the forum, but I've been banned.
I also wanted to add the review by the forum member "Snowflake10" is by the staff member who bought his "GM title" called Blackcat. He has less than average game knowledge but due to the many donations Zeal promoted him.
Quote from: Ariasqt on Feb 15, 2015, 10:50 AM
I also wanted to add the review by the forum member "Snowflake10" is by the staff member who bought his "GM title" called Blackcat. He has less than average game knowledge but due to the many donations Zeal promoted him.
Actually Blackcat didn't even start donating a lot until he was a gm. Also originally blackcat was only a forum GM because of his high activity on the forum then we decided later to promote him as a in game support GM.
Can you prove any of these accusations against the server because I'm not seeing a single bit of proof from you about any of this.
also i highly doubt anyone would pay $700 to any server and if so, where is your proof?
I played this game for atleast 3 months already, and considered its overall gameplay a good one, but recently its admin had shown its true colors.
well i dont know of its problem internally(management), but we noticed that the Zeal hasnt been active since middle december. well he've been telling us reasons and promised us(players) to be active by the succeeding weeks, but each promised has been stoned. so players on zealro is declining bythen not only because of its gm inactivity but of its unsolved problems including massive lags and spikes.
Until recently, as i logged on, im quite surprised that the server's population became 24, as i asked some people on pront what happened. they told me thesame reasons as the author of this post(Reason: A GM has given some players billions of zeny and items few hours earlier) and the server will wiped on few hours.
So i've forwarded my thoughts to zeal on his website chat.
first, why would he wiped the server if he can rollback few hours or a day, before the said GM INCIDENT.
well im quite surprised that he cant produced a single straightforward answer/reason, but still insisting that server WIPE is zealro's sole probability of action.
ive experienced a sudden realization that, Zeal had abandoned us and as well quite angered when i figured that just last week, he has produced promos (50% off) on selected donation items. well i dont know what he was thinking by that time, but not till now. well im prohibited to judge him here so i will left this to the readers.
well as an "old" player of zeal ro i can certify to the accusations given by the author of the post as a FACT.
hoped that the FUTURE PLAYERS OF ZEAL RO will be enlightened.
@rkenshin Yes, the proof is that Kenny was a support gm, everybody know that. It should be Zeal to prove what he's saying, because his excuse to wipe is really ridiculous.
Concerning Blackcat, I can't know that. The only thing i know is that he was the most incompetent GM I've ever seen.
that doesnt make sense though, Ariasqt is the one making the accusations so he should provide some proof, any proof. we all know kenny was corrupt since we all know he gave away his gm account and watched as his friend muted and kicked people, the fact is that he broke the rules and people seem to think he did the right thing. You do the same thing on ANY other server, I guarantee you will get IP banned just like this one
Nobody is saying Kenny did well that day o.o He did it on purpose to wake up the admins, they just kicked merchants and warped people. Kenny had no powers to create equips or zeny, so I can't see your point! Obviously his ban is fair, but I don't think my ban is fair, since my only fault was to say in #main that Zeal was lying.
Quote from: pichan on Feb 15, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nobody is saying Kenny did well that day o.o He did it on purpose to wake up the admins, they just kicked merchants and warped people. Kenny had no powers to create equips or zeny, so I can't see your point! Obviously his ban is fair, but I don't think my ban is fair, since my only fault was to say in #main that Zeal was lying.
err no.. he didnt just kick merchants and warp people. People were getting muted and kicked and im not talking about merchants, im talking about people in towns and fields. people that were trying to play and level up or quest were then forced to post on the forum because they kept getting muted and kicked and when they tried logging back on, they were kicked again.
The point i was making is that the owner of this topic should have had some sort of proof otherwise his accusations mean nothing. anyone can make a topic claiming all sorts of things but the only way people will even believe this is if you have proof, screenshots or anything to back up what you are saying.
Yes He did that. And it's fair he got banned, it's what he wanted, cause he was leaving his role. He was trolling and this is the only way he abused his powers.
Maybe you can't understand, I try to put it easy: Zeal is saying that Kenny ruined server economy giving away billions of zeny and +10 equipments. And that the server need to wipe because of what Kenny did. If it was true, he only needed to roll back 2 hours, and the server was the same! There's no possibility that Kenny ruined the economy since he had no powers to do that, can you understand the problem now? What proof do you want? I really can't get your point... a screenshot of what?
It is Zeal who should post some proof abot Kenny ruining the economy of the server since he had logs of everything, but he's not even replying to this post :)
Okay let me quote what i said via our forums.
Not once have i blamed Kenny for the wipe, the wipe and fresh start is because of the reasons below, a 2 hour roll back will not take these away.
QuoteWhen we launched the server, both myself and the staff did our very best to balance out the server in terms of economy, rates and more.
Part 1
Within 1 month of the server opening we then encountered a bug that was heavily abused flooding billions into the server via selling salad obtain by Lunakaligo (http://ratemyserver.net/item_db.php?item_id=1544&small=1&back=1).
The food was suppose to be dropping at 5% however was dropping 100% even from a poring.
Payers could then sell the food for 6k zeny each and even more with +10 oversell on a merchant.
This caused a lot of items to be able to be bought quickly and lots of zeny to flood the server that shouldn't.
This was the start of the crappy economy we have at the moment.
Most of the zeny was recovered and the bug was fixed but lots of the zeny was unrecoverable and players already sold items that should of been harder to sold/bought if this bug wasn't in place.
Part 2
With a community poll we disabled the sword reject skill on MvP monsters preventing the one shot MvP kills however this was used for a long period of time to obtain lots of MvP gears that should also been harder to obtainin.
After disabling the skill, this gave one group / guild of players a huge advantage as they already had these gears and it was now much much harder for new players to obtain and this group of players then used them gears to be able to horde and kill more and more MvP's
It then become economy breaking as this group of players controlled the market of how much things sell for and how they got distributed within the server.
Part 3
We created a promotion giving new players an instant level 90 pre-trans char, some gears and battle badges.
This was working great and was un-abusable however during this promo we switched to a new host and updated how our logs are stored to minimise the lag issue to the minimum.
Upon changing how the logs were stored there was some human error on how the script reads and was allowing players to obtain the free promo over and over and over again, flooding battle badges, battlegrounds gear, VIP passes, class mounts and much more into the server.
Players were making over 100+ chars and selling all the badges.
This also flooded lots of zeny to certain players that they should not have obtained.
Part 4 - The BIG one
As you know, the MvP rates of the server are 10x and 1x for cards.
Being 10x means that all equips and high tier MvP quips drop at 100%
Can you see the issue here with balance? there is way to much in the server that is causing to much un-balance, economy inflation and more.
.............
Now i know your saying, why did you let this happen? this should of been patched and fixed before launch?
I agree 100% however we are only human and learn from our mistakes.
The one thing i will tell you and i know most of you will agree, I love the Zeal server and love the community.
I will never and have no intentions of closing the server, both myself and you will agree that ZealRO has a lot of potential if these bugs, game breaking features was not available from a fresh start of the server.
This will be my last post here on the topic, ill have fun reading it though /no1
So Zeal, let me understand.... You told everyone in game that Kenny did a mess and ruined the economy, created billions of zeny and +10 equips and now you say it's not true? AHAHAHAHAHAH
I can't believe it! You banned me in game because I said it was not true, so why you banned me? OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!
At least, now everybody can understand the wipe happened because of admins incompetence and inactivity.
Sorry, I'm still laughting guys... /swt
Quote from: Ariasqt on Feb 15, 2015, 10:50 AM
I also wanted to add the review by the forum member "Snowflake10" is by the staff member who bought his "GM title" called Blackcat. He has less than average game knowledge but due to the many donations Zeal promoted him.
And how do you know this? Asking this because members of the staff aren't allowed to make reviews.
The only question I have is why the server owner is not refunding 100% of the donated money but only 50%. I don't get this point. Anybody?
Where does it say 50%?
Its 100%
Also quoted from the post on our forums.
QuoteBUT I DONATED, WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
Although donations are for helping the server improve and develop i am not a thief, you will get everything back.
You will all have 12 days upon the re-launch to re-claim your GC.
At the beginning he said he was giving back 50%, now everybody complained and he says he's giving back 100%.
Anyway, I don't have words to explain this situation, he seized an opportunity whit Kenny's goodbye-mess to wipe the server, blaming him, but now Kenny has nothing to do with the wipe XD
What a professional admin /swt
LOL Zeal are you kidding? Hahaha at the beginning you said 50% (in the forums).
Now he changed it cause ppl complained haha
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 15, 2015, 12:30 PM
Where does it say 50%?
Its 100%
You and them are both correct.
It started with 50% but later was changed to 100% as said in here - http://www.zealro.com/index.php/topic,808.0.html (http://www.zealro.com/index.php/topic,808.0.html)
Here are some aid pictures just in case:
- Some complains picked from the topic:
(http://i.imgur.com/tz5IvEP.png)
- The later change to 100%:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZxQNgPV.png)
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/a-message-from-avidro%27s-head-gm/).
It's not like he hasn't had to rollback before, not like he hasn't run at least 2 servers into the ground before. He should know what he's doing by now. One month into the server they discovered the lunakaligo thing? Blaming the reject sword for having a broken economy? You're the ones who decided to remove it this long into the server, so I'm sorry but you'll have to deal with the fact that there are people who used to use it. Then having the balls to blame the entire thing on a support GM who I know you didn't give @item powers to.
Stop trying to pretend you're not Avid, you make yourself look like an idiot every time you 'correct' someone. It's not a secret. You're not being clever. Every time you post it's exactly like Avid, just take a look at the posts on both accounts on RMS here. Everything in ZealRO is just like AvidRO. I mean jesus the words are even the same, Zeal and Avid. Wow. So smart. Your HeadGM is the very competent GM I hired in AvidRO and I hope he understands now why I took off. You are not a good Admin. You are a good scam artist, but you are absolutely horrible at maintaining a server longer than 6 months.
That's ok though. This entire thing is hilarious. People will keep on joining these one-shot servers and giving their money to bad admins like AvidZeal. Can't help stupid. This'll close just like AvidRO did after it wiped and started over.
Quote from: Zhin on Feb 15, 2015, 03:24 PM
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/a-message-from-avidro%27s-head-gm/).
jesus the words are even the same, Zeal and Avid. Wow. So smart.
what? .. thats like saying banana and coffee are the same words, they don't sound the same, they don't look the same, they don't even have the same letters. wtf is wrong with you.
This whole post is pointless, It's created by a couple of immature people that got caught doing the wrong thing so now they feel they need to get revenge. I asked around some of Kennys ex guild memebers and they told me how Kenny would attack an mvp on his non gm account and would tell people he was using his gm account to "watch" an mvp and if anyone else got near it he would use his gm to teleport the mvp and of course GM characters can apparently see exactly where the mvps are on the map so he already had advantage. funny how his group would become the only ones to kill the mvp since his GM character would be the one "watching" the mvp.
I learnt all this when I spoke to one of his friends on skype, Funny as he also told me if kennys friend got jailed then he would just wait for that gm to log out and then unjail them. seems totally "fair". not to mention giving away his gm account to his best friend who created this topic because they got caught and are too immature to take responsibility for their actions
Hello, i'm Kenny
First of all, i want to say i never cheated nor abused my power at all, the only thing i did wrong was the day i couldnt take more of the s**t.
Since i became GM i was so happy i could help the server which i liked sooo much, it had potetial and good features or based on donation,
the first week went cool, Zeal ( the admin ) was kinda active since it was holidays ( christmas ) maybe he had pause at work, but after the holidays ends, it became complete silence
I've reported so many request to him that people @requested in game, and the delay for an answer or for fix the problem was so long ( weeks ) that people had forgot already
or quit already, expecially when we introduced the "Guild Pack" so many guild left the server after 1 week because Zeal couldnt check their request , even when Me, Abigail, Blackcat and King asked him
multiple time every day, untill i just stopped telling him to check those Guild Pack request, i dont know how many guild we lost because of this. When we found a gamebreak bug we had to pray god " Please Zeal be there at least today "becauce even if we spammed him in PM or in our Skype group he wouldnt answer. When we found out a bug with Starter pack, people could abuse it for days untill he fixed the problem, and by that time it was to late , people had already 100.000 pcs of BG Badges or more ( sold 40k each easly.. yes you could trade those badge... xD ) and 1000pcs Ulles cap ( also gave on starter pack ) if you want know more about this bug just tell me later..
Now lets talk about what happened.
I tried my best everyday all day, trying to be online all day with my GM account or if my GM account was offline i would log instantly because i spent a lot of time on my Legit account since i had a guild to run with MVP camping every day. I never used any of my @commands on my legit account nor on my guildsmate , they didint even know that i was Kenny, i was good enough to hide this for all the time i was GM, only 2 my close friend knew what. We had GM Abigail with her Legit account that joined Mvp's with us so she can guarantee we are good enough to kill any mvp without the need to use any @commands! my commands didint had @items / @refine or whatsoever that i could abuse and there's always LOGs he could check.
He claimed i had +10 equip xD which is true :) i had +10 Composite bow guys!! im guilty!!!!! yeah just kidding, we camped all day every day Valk Rang, WM , Beelze, Ifrit and every 3 day Nidhog with 3 different group . 100% Drop Valk Set, Diablous Set , Variants and Proxy so you know, its not hard to make +7 stuff or +8, also with HD and Enriched Elu/Ori.
We had like 150 Dark Bash, means we had 150 WM Drops, means with HD and Enriched easy upgrade! and we only made +9 Dboots.. oh wait i did not made those, my friend made it and SOLD to me . The money i made were from MVP drops and ALSO i splitted everything with my Guilda, and yeah we kinda became strong after doing that, and players on the server know that my guild is MVP based ( no woe or pvp ) we only had fun killing MVP, some people used to WOE but you know.. no one actually was WOEing by that point and Zeal disabled for 1 month the WOE.
Its already so long and i'm so sorry i'm not english but i'm trying my best and i hope you can understand what im trying to say...
All i want is defend my self after seeing how bad this situation is handled by Zeal, and trying to lie about me, about how i abused my power
i will quote it " Kenny however chose to get his words notice with terrible actions flooding billions worth of Zeny/Items for all players to obtain and opening portals to MvP mobs while the staff with greater power was offline. " this is what he said, this is wrong in all the ways, first off all i DID NOT drop any items after i decided to quit, i all gave to my friend GM Abigail ( her legit account ) anddd
i was spending all my week hoping on Zeal to get online and i have PROOF he did not spoke a single time for 6 days. Our Skype group was so silent and covered of " Zeal? you there? " i have screen if you need proof, i have all you want in case he wont admit it. I just couldnt take it, no more. I flipped that day and BY MY DECISION I DECIDED TO QUIT THE STAFF ( i was not kicked. ) after that something happened, when i said in game i was quitting the staff (i said because of the admin inactivity and after i realized all he wanted was people money ) people start telling me i ruined the server and i abused the GM power and spamming in #main " RIP SERVER " " FKING KENNY CORRUPT " so i muted them and eventually kicked them, but they did not stop so i got mad and said to myself... " W/e Zeal doesnt deserve more money from those people and all i can think now is lets people understand how the Staff is inactive " so for 1 hour and half i could do WHAT I WANT, i kicked and muted everyone. First of all i kicked all the merchant :D and suddendly the popolation dropped 150 online to 45 online ! then i kicked everyone and give to my friend the GM account so he could help me doing bad stuff, and he warped people to Thana_boss map !! and that's all. Then the drama became, Zeal went home and acted like they " caught " me when i did all by my self, quitting the staff and whatever.
im pretty tired now if you have more question just ask lol xD
this is the moment i left the staff :) not kicked like he's saying: " http://s4.postimg.org/pluj23nx9/sadfkjsdf.jpg (http://s4.postimg.org/pluj23nx9/sadfkjsdf.jpg) "
Quote from: Triper on Feb 15, 2015, 12:04 PM
And how do you know this? Asking this because members of the staff aren't allowed to make reviews.
Hello Triper,
GM Blackcat told Kenny in private Chat in Skype that it was his Review.
Post proof otherwise how can we tell if you are telling the truth or not ????
tell me what you need lol and i will give you in private or can i post it there?:p actually i wanna give Zeal a chance to say by him self i'm telling the truth ;)
i just wanna see proof that the gm made a review so message in private if u wnt
Quote from: Rkenshin on Feb 15, 2015, 06:55 PM
i just wanna see proof that the gm made a review so message in private if u wnt
I think it's easy for other ppl checking IPs as I don't have the power I can't give you anything as this was NOT my conversation but Kennys. Also I don't think thats the only thing you should be interested in, in this thread. But okay as soon I got some proof you will get it anyway, there were like 3 people in the whole guild who knew Henryk/Faker was actually Kenny so stop trash talking because I HIGHLY doubt that anyone of these people would actually invent such rumors but yeah you can show us some proof if kenny did that and Zeal should be able to do so as well from the logs. However, given the fact that Zeal still did NOT show any logs of abuse is some kind of proof for me that he has none and thus kenny never did anything wrong. Also telling us we are immature: I think you are some hater from the server who was jelly on the success of our guild and equipment progress (which again was obtained in a totally legit way). So if you want to trash talk Kenny or the guild show me some proof please. =) Oh btw what did we get caught for? Before Kenny gave me his account on friday the 13. I never was on that account (logs will prove that as well) and he also never did anything wrong as these gears/zeny which zeal claims Kenny created never existed. So yes tell me how did we get caught for what? There's not a SINGLE thing which actually happened? All of your arguments are POINTLESS and I think it's just some immature trash talking by you, you don't even know what you are talking about. /heh We didn't get caught for any action and there was not a single action we could get caught for. So tell me what Kenny exactly did and what actions we should take resposibility for.
Edit: I actually can't believe what a liar this admin is how he is denying his own words in the forums first posting them and afterwards removing them but Triper showed proof about the 50% donation thing so I think people can guess what kind of person he is. (He's denying being Avid as well, putting rumors into the world about kenny cheating now he's denying that as well etcetc)
And btw @ Zeal you claimed there are items and zeny which should NOT be here mind to tell us which items you've been talking about? Give it to me straight so I know which of my items or Kennys were actually obtained in a "illegal" way.
Wow GM Zeal! We all tried to help you, but you blew it :(
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 15, 2015, 10:21 AM
You made a mistake :)
Im not Avid.
Its 100% and the only corruption is GM Kenny even though you wont admit it.
Bad press is good press, looking forward to this topic /no1
I played AvidRO and saw it die a long time ago. I just reviewed your ZealRO site and a lot of the content seems incredibly similar. You can lie about it all you like but it's blatant to me that you and Avid are the same person given how similar the codes/scripts you use are.
Your previous server (Avid) officially died when you gave 0 hope to your remaining Pinoy players by wiping the server. You gave the same excuse in Avid but primarily blamed your lack of Harmony back then, so it's not really refreshing that you're using the same s*** excuse but in a different context (corruption, failure promo, etc).
Honestly dude, you need to really work on your ability to code and develop your ability to improve the security of your server because your history of failures has always been due to a lack of competence. There's a reason why Justin Bieber gave up on Avid too.
For all I know, you could be telling the truth about the corruption, but to be frank, I don't really believe you given your history and how immature you are. You're worse than Cookie because at least Cookie's not a complete dumbass. I'm sure there will be people posting this thread in your forums, but as always, you're quick to delete those threads, just as you have been in Avid.
It's just an excuse to start again and get those juicy new server donations and why the hell are my posts getting deleted in rant and rave?
This is really poor. Now trying to Kenny for corruption. Even if Kenny did such things on the last night before Zeal made the decision to wipe the server, he could just do a 12 or 24 hours rollback. Kenny never did something like that before. Seems to me like zeal just used this situation as an excuse to wipe the server.
Just want to tell this as well:
I didn't know that Henryk was Kenny. But all I can say is that Kenny was the only GM you could relay on. Whenever I had a problem (bots, killstealing, question, ingame bugs) he helped as much as he could do. Whenever there was a bug, he reported it to Zeal/Head GMs. And everytime we have asked for an update he forwarded it to them as well.
Without Kenny I don't think that we would had that many player on ZealRo. Seriously, he really worked hard to help the community.
Even on his legit char he (and his guild) organized many events which were really really funny. In 2-3 Months of playing on this server I never saw even 1 event from the GMs which was nearly as much fun as his events.
Really, without him the server would have "died" much earlier. I would say, if you had gave more Power to GM Kenny, many issues/bugs had been fixed much faster and many of the ppl who left wouldn't leave the server.
Think what you want but blaming Kenny is a real absurdity.
Uh hello again, im pretty sure if some Admin on RMS could check the ip or mac of those guy they would be the same :D and yes all 3 are Blackcat :
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=40184 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=40184) Rkenshin Profile
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=40165 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=40165) Whitedog Profile
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=37450 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=37450) Snowflake10 Profile
everyone can read the post he made x_x we are not dumb Lol
also " rkenshin " stated on ZealRO forum that someone stole his name on RMS and pretending to be him ( ofc its Blackcat who else would do that LOL)
http://s24.postimg.org/9qvk1wdyt/IMG_1627.png (http://s24.postimg.org/9qvk1wdyt/IMG_1627.png) <-- The real rkenshin
http://forums.play-ggro.com/index.php?/topic/1651-hello-new-to-ggro/ (http://forums.play-ggro.com/index.php?/topic/1651-hello-new-to-ggro/) this post was given to us by Blackcat on Skype and uhm " I am Australian " and Blackcat this is his Facebook
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http://s30.postimg.org/j80hccjrl/australia.jpg (http://s30.postimg.org/j80hccjrl/australia.jpg)
he also had 2 hunters in game 1 named Blackcat then after he became gm he made another one named snowflake
i have to read 3 months of skype chat x_x and im already bored
EDIT: the admin already checked xDDD ahahah http://forum.ratemyserver.net/junk-yard/zealro/msg176711/#msg176711 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/junk-yard/zealro/msg176711/#msg176711)
This is really bad. Faked reviews will lead people to play or even donate on a server which isn't worth.
I'm saying this because I checked the reviews and it is really bad what they promote. RMS should check them.
A rating on stability greater than 1 is a joke in my opinion. The freezes where never fixed. And those freezes have nothing to do with the players connection / location. The freeze was on server site: while the screen was freezed for some seconds, the mobs also did not do anything. Normal (player-side) lag/freeze would end in the mob attacks while the player has the lag/freeze.
Zeal tried to fix that stuff. You can say he did many mistakes, but he tried his best to fix it. Unfortunately it doesn't work. He removed the lag with a new server but the issue with this freezes never got fixed.
If you check the ratings of ZealRo there are many 90 - 100 point ratings giving a 9 or 10/10 for stability. This is fake. Everyone who played on this server for at least 1 hour would know this. Sorry, but this is a fact.
That's why I never rated this server before. Zeal always promised to make the server better. I wanted to wait because I wanted to give a better rate. Now seeing his methods and true face and how the server went in the last weeks it was impossible to give a higher rate.
This is not only my opinion but the opinion of at least 3-4 friends of mine.
And I think everyone who serious played at least some hours could confirm this.
Quote from: Davidt on Feb 16, 2015, 06:59 AM
A rating on stability greater than 1 is a joke in my opinion. The freezes where never fixed. And those freezes have nothing to do with the players connection / location. The freeze was on server site: while the screen was freezed for some seconds, the mobs also did not do anything. Normal (player-side) lag/freeze would end in the mob attacks while the player has the lag/freeze.
If you check the ratings of ZealRo there are many 90 - 100 point ratings giving a 9 or 10/10 for stability. This is fake. Everyone who played on this server for at least 1 hour would know this. Sorry, but this is a fact.
That's why I never rated this server before. Zeal always promised to make the server better. I wanted to wait because I wanted to give a better rate. Now seeing his methods and true face and how the server went in the last weeks it was impossible to give a higher rate.
This is not only my opinion but the opinion of at least 3-4 friends of mine.
And I think everyone who serious played at least some hours could confirm this.
He's right ANYONE can confirm that the server had lag spikes without a break sometimes less sometimes more sometimes it even reached 10sec lag spikes he always promised to fix these but oh well you can see what happened. Zeal is a joke of a Admin trying to scam people with his lies, using his pet GM Blackcat (fitting name btw) to make the server look good.
Btw Zeal isnt there anything you want to say except using fake sarcasm? Any proof that weve been cheating, any proof that you are not avid? Btw why didnt Avid answer to this topic yet? /heh
Zeal on skype you asked me a prof about " Snowflake" being GM Blackcat, and after i gave you the proof you said " Yea thats out of my hands " o.o" so you acted all cool before because you tought i couldnt find a proof? i can put here all our skype conversation with Blackcat or GM Staff if you want :D but i dont think you would like that right? Don't even dare to lie 1 more time.
I deleted my RMS review for ZealRO awhile ago because Zeal's response to it was entirely a lie. He said woe had been disabled for two weeks and the population was GROWING? Cmonnnn. Zeal also would take the time to delete my forum posts, yet entirely neglect what I was saying in those posts. Disgrace to you and your future endeavors of lies. You can't just delete what you dislike and speak about "this isn't my server, it is YOUR server" in-game. I am very glad ZealRO died. /kis2
Quote from: vooboo on Feb 15, 2015, 11:10 PM
Your previous server (Avid) officially died when you gave 0 hope to your remaining Pinoy players by wiping the server. You gave the same excuse in Avid but primarily blamed your lack of Harmony back then, so it's not really refreshing that you're using the same s*** excuse but in a different context (corruption, failure promo, etc).
Honestly dude, you need to really work on your ability to code and develop your ability to improve the security of your server because your history of failures has always been due to a lack of competence. There's a reason why Justin Bieber gave up on Avid too.
It is hard for me to imagine poor Zeal all cooped up alone being attacked by all of us. You know? He knows not what he does. We are all wasting our time because GM Zeal/Avid is just going to be cheeky in the face of all of our harsh truths. He'll pretend and lie because it matters to him /heh GM Zeal is obviously going to maintain his Corrupt Kenny story because it is easy for him. He takes zero responsibility. It is easy to start over than to fix your own mess ups. Right? /no1
GM Zeal was given many suggestions by both players and staff. Like I said, he isn't even aware that he is supposed to hear the advice of his peers. He is unfit and I hope he has a son someday to lie to.
I don't care what is true. His server is dead. I think it is entertaining to watch GM Zeal/Avid squirm and struggle to preserve his already bad reputation /gg
Okay here is my final part of this topic as promised.
First of all GM Kenny / Henry and w.e other names he may use on RMS was not the reason we are wiping ZealRO.
The reasons are due to the things ive stated via our forums, ill post them again here via a spoiler.
Spoiler
When we launched the server, both myself and the staff did our very best to balance out the server in terms of economy, rates and more.
Part 1
Within 1 month of the server opening we then encountered a bug that was heavily abused flooding billions into the server via selling salad obtain by Lunakaligo (http://ratemyserver.net/item_db.php?item_id=1544&small=1&back=1).
The food was supposed to be dropping at 5% however was dropping 100% even from a poring.
Payers could then sell the food for 6k zeny each and even more with +10 overcharge on a merchant.
This caused a lot of items to be able to be bought quickly and lots of zeny to flood the server that shouldn't.
This was the start of the crappy economy we have at the moment.
Most of the zeny was recovered and the bug was fixed but lots of the zeny was unrecoverable and players already sold items that should have been more of an investment to purchase/sell.
Part 2
With a community poll we disabled the Reject Sword skill on MvP monsters preventing the one shot MvP kills however this was used for a long period of time to obtain lots of MvP gear that should have been harder to obtain.
After disabling the skill, this gave one group of players a huge advantage as they already had this gear and it was now much much harder for new players to obtain them and this group of players then used those gears to be able to horde and kill more and more MvP's
It then became economy breaking as this group of players controlled the market.
Part 3
We created a promotion giving new players an instant level 90 pre-trans char, some gear and battle badges.
This was working great and was abuse-proof however during this promo we switched to a new host and updated how our logs are stored to minimize the lag issue to a minimum.
Upon changing how the logs were stored there was some human error on how the script reads and was allowing players to obtain the free promo over and over and over again, flooding battle badges, battlegrounds gear, VIP passes, class mounts and much more into the server.
Players were making over 100+ chars and selling all the badges.
This also flooded lots of zeny to certain players that they should not have obtained.
Part 4 - The BIG one
As you know, the MvP rates of the server are 10x and 1x for cards.
Being 10x means that all high tier MvP equips drop at 100%
Can you see the issue here with balance? Gear that should be rare is instead super common.
.............
Now I know you're saying; "Why did you let this happen? This should of been patched and fixed before launch!"
I agree 100% however we are only human and learn from our mistakes.
The one thing I will tell you and I know most of you will agree, I love the Zeal server and love the community.
I will never close the server, both myself and you will agree that ZealRO has a lot of potential if these bugs and game breaking features were not available from a fresh start of the server.
Now another things that is quite funny is everyone attacking saying i just want money, the wipe is to make more money. Are you sure? or you just finding more reasons to attack me and the server because of the decision ive made?
Everyone that has donated will get all the credits back ingame, its that simple, if i only wanted money i would not do that.
Also all the donation money has gone back into the server, if you have ever been an admin of a dedicated server and not just one that uses trinity hosting or wan hosting or w.e other hosting service you can get for about $5/month than you will know the expenses.
DDOS protection for one is a huge expence, these hosting companys that charge $5 ~ 20$ per month for a server that you can host RO on with 10/20GB DDOS protection? that's a lie and people are so stupid to even purchase this server, YOU CAN NOT GET DDOS PROTECTION FOR $20 / MONTH WITH A SERVER INCLUDED!
My god, RebirthRO paid $20,000 setup fee for DDOS protection from prolexic thats not even counting the monthly fees, sadly we don't have the funds to provide such protection for ZealRO.
Now with this in mind our server costs are around $650 / month for our server machine and DDOS protection then ontop of that there are adverts that we renew every single month also adverts on Facebook, then we buy graphics and other things required for the server/development.
This is where all your money goes with ZealRO, i cannot take in account what other admins do, that's upto them but this is what we do at ZealRO.
So please try and run a server by yourself with all the expenses and them come back to me and say im doing it for money.
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Next is this Blackcat reviews things.
I was not aware that Blackcat made different accounts to make reviews for ZealRO, if he did this then both myself and king will have a word regarding this as this is against RMS's rules and we don't tolerate rules breaking of any kind, why would we risk getting de-listed on the best website for players seeking a Ragnarok online private server?
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I understand the frustration going around as you guys lost 2/3 months worth of hunting / levels etc and also keep saying why didn't you just do a 1 / 2 hour roll back?
No, ill say it again NO!
This will not get rid of the things listed in the below spoiler.
Spoiler
When we launched the server, both myself and the staff did our very best to balance out the server in terms of economy, rates and more.
Part 1
Within 1 month of the server opening we then encountered a bug that was heavily abused flooding billions into the server via selling salad obtain by Lunakaligo (http://ratemyserver.net/item_db.php?item_id=1544&small=1&back=1).
The food was supposed to be dropping at 5% however was dropping 100% even from a poring.
Payers could then sell the food for 6k zeny each and even more with +10 overcharge on a merchant.
This caused a lot of items to be able to be bought quickly and lots of zeny to flood the server that shouldn't.
This was the start of the crappy economy we have at the moment.
Most of the zeny was recovered and the bug was fixed but lots of the zeny was unrecoverable and players already sold items that should have been more of an investment to purchase/sell.
Part 2
With a community poll we disabled the Reject Sword skill on MvP monsters preventing the one shot MvP kills however this was used for a long period of time to obtain lots of MvP gear that should have been harder to obtain.
After disabling the skill, this gave one group of players a huge advantage as they already had this gear and it was now much much harder for new players to obtain them and this group of players then used those gears to be able to horde and kill more and more MvP's
It then became economy breaking as this group of players controlled the market.
Part 3
We created a promotion giving new players an instant level 90 pre-trans char, some gear and battle badges.
This was working great and was abuse-proof however during this promo we switched to a new host and updated how our logs are stored to minimize the lag issue to a minimum.
Upon changing how the logs were stored there was some human error on how the script reads and was allowing players to obtain the free promo over and over and over again, flooding battle badges, battlegrounds gear, VIP passes, class mounts and much more into the server.
Players were making over 100+ chars and selling all the badges.
This also flooded lots of zeny to certain players that they should not have obtained.
Part 4 - The BIG one
As you know, the MvP rates of the server are 10x and 1x for cards.
Being 10x means that all high tier MvP equips drop at 100%
Can you see the issue here with balance? Gear that should be rare is instead super common.
.............
Now I know you're saying; "Why did you let this happen? This should of been patched and fixed before launch!"
I agree 100% however we are only human and learn from our mistakes.
The one thing I will tell you and I know most of you will agree, I love the Zeal server and love the community.
I will never close the server, both myself and you will agree that ZealRO has a lot of potential if these bugs and game breaking features were not available from a fresh start of the server.
You guys that are ranting need to understand that this decision was hard and is to benefit the server from now on and in the future.
It got boring, we tried everything to make it more fun such as Zombies event, PvP system and more but that wasn't enough because all players already had everything because of the bugs in the above spoiler so there was no motivation or competition to keep going.
If we kept it how it was with all the unbalanced glitched/bugged stuff in the game the server would of been trash and no reason to join and harder to bring in new features..
Just think of it as a 4 month BETA test and now on the 1st March when we relaunch we know 100% for certain all the bugs / glitches / exploits are vanished and no longer abuseable so its fair play for everyone at all times and not just the groups that abused the systems.
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Its also fun when you see PM's / messages such as "im going to ruin your server" , "im going to get you de-listed on RMS"
If you want to ruin ZealRO, please give it your best shot, im looking forward to wasting you valued time /kis. my decision is whats best for the server, i know that and maybe 20% other the other players know that, the rest of you well.. there are 1000+ server you can play, here ill link you to the RMS server listings here. (http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=listserver&rate=all&order_type=default_high&page_num=1) Have fun on one of them.
As regards to getting ZealRO delisted, ill be happy to hold my hand up and say fine, de-list me however ive not broken any rules to be de-listed and wont ever do so, that would just be a dumb move. So also do your best to try and get me delisted.
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Now regards to my inactivity...
Where do i start... This is not going out to all of you, just the immature kids that don't know life yet.
When you get to a certain age you have got to go out and work to earn a living, you know.. to put that roof over your head.. or to keep that food in your belly? Have you ever heard of work?.. or are you kids still doing the Sunday paper round for your local news paper?
If i was running a server solely for money then yes i would not work and stay at home gathering all your $$ donations and funding my house, my son, my wife to be, my phone bill, my car, my holidays and more. but no, I HAVE A JOB so yes, i can only spend 2/3 hours per day on the server on a weekday since its a school night for me. And the weekends im at my computer screen almost 24/7 as you noticed im very active in main chat / forums and the staff chat on Skype on weekends.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME OR ZEALRO MOVE ON! FIND ANOTHER SERVER!
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 1ST MARCH FOR OUR OFFICIAL RELAUNCH!
PEACE!
/no1
So that's it Zeal? You are spreading lies in your forum and afterwards you act like you've never told them? Thanks for showing RMS what kind of pathetic little liar you are. Anyway we both know and so does RMS now that you as an Admin won't be able to keep a good server up not you nor the lying staff (Blackcat) you have on your benches. You are telling us we don't know how life works? Does it work spreading lies over and over again? Ignoring and pretending afterwards? Nice life you've got there keep the work up.
RIP ZealRO
01.11.2014-13.02.2015
†††
Thanks for showing the RMS community what kind of guy you truely are /kis /kis2 /kis /kis2 /kis /kis2
Sincerly Arias.
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 16, 2015, 01:23 PM
Super long post
I don't know about the others, but I'm attacking you for your character and incompetence.
I agree that opening a RO private server doesn't bring in a large source of revenue overtime but it does in the beginning of its longevity. What I never understood is, why the heck would anyone would bother opening a private server out of passion/enjoyment but wouldn't bother to do it properly. Based on your past activity, it looks like you were most dedicated in the beginning of the server life (the time when the server typically rakes in the most revenue) and then become inactive afterwards. You can't deny the fact that this doesn't look suspicious at all; especially considering your history of reopening a new server and re-branding it completely. The fact that you deny you're Avid raises even MORE suspicion.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not running the server for a quick influx of profit; however, if we assume you are opening servers just for the sake of profit, you must generate very little income in real life to be that desperate to scam that many people online. (Lol.) I figured the type of people who still scam people in the RO private-server market are broke teenagers/high school students. But of course, only you know whether you are lying or not.
I recall you using a similar argument regarding costs of operating a server. I agree to some extent there are costs associated with it, including the payment of various marketing aspects and the operation costs (i.e. hosting services, retaining domain names, quality staff, etc); however, when I confronted you the true costs in the past, you failed to provide an invoice/receipt for any of it and blocked me.
The next time you have the audacity to attack people on their "immaturity", I recommend you self-reflect on your own behaviour. I'm a little flabbergasted to see that things have not changed over the years, especially considering I just recently decided to get back into RO again.
This topic didn't turn out to be as interesting like the rest :c
Aside from the misleading topic title, what I gather is that one GM messed up bigtime and wrote a fake review and another GM lost his cool and did something he shouldn't have. I don't think the server admin is to blame for both of their folly.
The admin said a few things which some of you disagree with but he clearly doesn't feel the same way now and is only trying to focus on improving the game. I know as a player even I would be bloody pissed to see a server wiped without considering other alternatives with the community.
I find it funny when some of you claim the admin scammed you. Did he run away with your money and just close the server without any warning like most servers do?
I'm not saying the Admin is in the right here and he opted for the best possible solution. But at the same time none of you are speaking genuinely for the benefit of the RO community. Well I guess that's why it is in the Rant and Rave section.
I wouldn't agree that a server is run without any benefit whatsoever. It's probably true that most of the revenue go for the maintenance and upkeep but hey don't blame the ones who make it, it's also because of the ones who play it. There are an handful of servers with decent features and have no donate but people still prefer to join a server which has a donate shop. In fact, servers that sells equips and cards via donates tend to survive longer than most because they generate more revenue.
I only can give the advice dont join ZealRo. Zeal made many mistakes in the past and than he had the plan to wipe everything. We asked in forum as there isnt any other solution and we asked when the server will be shut down for 2 weeks before reopen. He didnt answer, he is only a king in making promises and deleting all comments that arent 100% positive and ignoring us. We bought a few weeks ago longlife VIP passes and other things .. The server only ran for 3,5 months.
After the announcement, he came online in ZealRo and said "tomorrow the server will be closed for 2 weeks", but suddenly the server was down and all characters level 1/1. He lies every day! He dont care about us.
And its such a no-go that gm blackcat used playernames to make positive reviews here.
The most funny thing in Zeal's "final speech" is that he didn't answer to a single question. (He just repeated what he already said and then pretended to be the only one to has a job)
Questions like:
- Are you Avid? If not, can you prove it?
- What equips "shouldn't be there"?
- Why did you blamed Kenny of abusing his power, generating billions of zeny and +10 equips? Did you just used it as an excuse to wipe?
- Why did you delete every post you didn't like in the forum? And also banned who posted it?
- Most important: why the hell is Blackcat still a GM for the reopening? When everybody saw he faked a review impersonating 2 different persons? OH WAIT, WE ALL KNOW WHY, WHAT A SILLY QUESTION /heh
Bye bye
Nidalee
Quote from: Rider on Feb 17, 2015, 04:51 AM
This topic didn't turn out to be as interesting like the rest :c
Aside from the misleading topic title, what I gather is that one GM messed up bigtime and wrote a fake review and another GM lost his cool and did something he shouldn't have. I don't think the server admin is to blame for both of their folly.
The admin said a few things which some of you disagree with but he clearly doesn't feel the same way now and is only trying to focus on improving the game. I know as a player even I would be bloody pissed to see a server wiped without considering other alternatives with the community.
I find it funny when some of you claim the admin scammed you. Did he run away with your money and just close the server without any warning like most servers do?
I'm not saying the Admin is in the right here and he opted for the best possible solution. But at the same time none of you are speaking genuinely for the benefit of the RO community. Well I guess that's why it is in the Rant and Rave section.
I wouldn't agree that a server is run without any benefit whatsoever. It's probably true that most of the revenue go for the maintenance and upkeep but hey don't blame the ones who make it, it's also because of the ones who play it. There are an handful of servers with decent features and have no donate but people still prefer to join a server which has a donate shop. In fact, servers that sells equips and cards via donates tend to survive longer than most because they generate more revenue.
What you're essentially talking about is a matter of "he said, she said" logic. I acknowledged the possibility of his altruism and that he is acting in the server's best interests; however, I also alluded to the fact that a lot of his decisions inspire a lot of suspicions.
Quote from: Rider on Feb 17, 2015, 04:51 AM
I'm not saying the Admin is in the right here and he opted for the best possible solution. But at the same time none of you are speaking genuinely for the benefit of the RO community. Well I guess that's why it is in the Rant and Rave section.
I'm slightly offended that you're implying that I'm not genuinely speaking on the benefit of the RO community. You talk about the benefit of the RO community, but doesn't that essentially mean that you're serving the RO community in its best interests? It's clear to me based on the admin's past history that he clearly has no respect for his player's time or resources. I understand that you may be busy with work, but at the end of the day, it's about learning to find the right balance in your life.
Frankly speaking, if you can't find the time or the right staff who are competent enough to manage a proper server, then you would be best serve the RO community by not RUNNING a server in the first place.
No one is denying that maintaining a server has costs and that donations are a means to lengthen a server's lifespan. The real issue is his lack of transparency in where the funds are going and his his incompetence and irresponsible behaviour. For example, I don't understand how it took so long for him to reach some of his conclusions. He talks about the "reflection method" in MvPing being one of the primary reasons for killing the server's economy, but how the hell did it take you to come to this conclusion when he allowed it happen throughout AvidRO's longevity? Even if it truly was an economic-breaking factor, there are a lot of different fiscal policies he could have pursued to mitigate the issue (which if you have played any of his servers, you'll find a lot of efforts to control the economy).
Let me explain it in a different way. A random homeless person asks you to donate some funds to him so that he can pursue various ventures so that he no longer has to live on the streets. Some people would not donate to him, some people will (the players in this case). What you don't know however, is that this person has a gambling problem and lost all his assets due to excessive gambling. Would you still donate money after knowing this? If yes, how do you know for sure he won't use the money for booze or to gamble? This is pretty much what's going on here, the only difference is, the marketing for a service is different.
If you're going to talk about the donation system, let me frame it into a context that makes more sense to you. When players donate, they are doing so for an in-game advantage. By doing this, they are ALSO expecting that the owner is using the funds in a manner that
extends the longevity of the server, not the reverse (as Avid/Zeal is doing). The truth is, he COULD be using it to pay off expenses such as advertising or for a host, but the way he is managing the server is not extending the longevity of the server. We already have empirical proof of the same incident happening with his previous server (AvidRO), and look where it is now, long gone.
The funniest thing is, I remember on AvidRO he announced publicly both on forums and in-game that all the players that left his server would come back. They didn't. I think the reason why he thought his server was so amazing was because at the time, there were no alternative mid-rates other than Woon, which I swear to God has been up for like 10 years.
No offense, but I feel like you don't really see what the real issue at hand is since there's a lot more going on than what's posted in this thread. For example, anyone that has had to play the game of organizational politics in huge international corporations will know exactly what I'm talking about.
I don't see why you had to take my words personally when I was speaking in general. Be as it may, accusations are invalid if you cannot provide proof for it. I know a few things does raise suspicion but just because a server is similar needn't necessarily mean it is the same one. People have been selling their servers and other custom add-ons and it could be the case with avid? I'm just saying we shouldn't just jump into conclusions if we cannot provide concrete proof for our arguments.
It's like I previously stated, I'm not trying to say Zeal is right or wrong here. Personally I don't like it when people use IRL as justification for slacking off in one's responsibilities to a server unless it's something important. If you can't plan properly and set aside sufficient time for a server you make then you might as well not bother undertaking such a task.
Woon has been around for 3 years now as per their server info.
Perhaps you're right and there might be a lot going on than what's brought up here. But I'm just responding based on what's stated here and right now all we have here are mostly bashing and arguments based on blank acquisitions.
Quote from: Rider on Feb 18, 2015, 05:32 AM
Be as it may, accusations are invalid if you cannot provide proof for it. I know a few things does raise suspicion but just because a server is similar needn't necessarily mean it is the same one. I'm just saying we shouldn't just jump into conclusions if we cannot provide concrete proof for our arguments.
But I'm just responding based on what's stated here and right now all we have here are mostly bashing and arguments based on blank acquisitions.
Proof eh? Like Zeal had any for his accusations towards GM kenny? Ok. Also regarding how this post went shouldnt it be obvious that Zeal will deny ANYTHING unless it has been proven? Like a forum moderator quoted when he was saying he never said the thing about only 50% donation money return? As soon the moderator quoted it Zeal never talked about it again. Also this guy IS a liar and there's no doubt that he is Avid. Stop trying to make him look better than he is. He's a lying scumbag who uses lies over and over again and if he's proven otherwise he just looks away from the proven truth.
He knows how RL works and we immature kids wouldnt ever understand that he's saying. (ofcourse not some people were raised properly where lying is a no go), Zeal wasn't raised like this. Now stop trying to make him look good he's a bad raised kid who never got out of puberty and for sure never grew up properly, at least, that's how he acts. If a kid does something bad (4-10 years old or so) they often deny it and if they are proven otherwise, that it's indeed their wrong doing they at least apologize - Zeal doesnt. I feel bad for him though not his fault that he wasn't raised properly. /sob
Quote from: Ariasqt on Feb 18, 2015, 07:43 AM
Stop trying to make him look better than he is...
He knows how RL works and we immature kids wouldnt ever understand that he's saying. (ofcourse not some people were raised properly where lying is a no go), Zeal wasn't raised like this. Now stop trying to make him look good he's a bad raised kid who never got out of puberty and for sure never grew up properly, at least, that's how he acts. If a kid does something bad (4-10 years old or so) they often deny it and if they are proven otherwise, that it's indeed their wrong doing they at least apologize - Zeal doesnt. I feel bad for him though not his fault that he wasn't raised properly. /sob
What in the world made you come to the assumption that I'm trying to make Zeal look better? But on the other hand, it sure looks like you're trying to make him look bad.You made this topic on a public forum so that people who don't know Zeal or Avid and all that jazz can read and respond to it. Why do you not like it when a 3rd person like me give their feedback on the topic?
People only speak up when they have something bad to say and never do the same to appreciate anything or just stay away because they have nothing bad to add themselves. Which is kinda why I felt like responding to the topic.
Quote from: Rider on Feb 18, 2015, 08:22 AM
What in the world made you come to the assumption that I'm trying to make Zeal look better? But on the other hand, it sure looks like you're trying to make him look bad.You made this topic on a public forum so that people who don't know Zeal or Avid and all that jazz can read and respond to it. Why do you not like it when a 3rd person like me give their feedback on the topic?
People only speak up when they have something bad to say and never do the same to appreciate anything or just stay away because they have nothing bad to add themselves. Which is kinda why I felt like responding to the topic.
I posted on a public forum because Zeal deleted all posts from his own forum and banned anyone saying something "bad" (more like true) against him. Also as you can see zeal isn't commenting anything but things he likes to read (like yours). There wasn't a single answer from him on the questions we actually asked him. I wonder why?
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 08:45 AM
I love you too Ariasqt /lv
See =) nothing to add bye bye Avid have fun on your empty server but you can open a new one afterwards anyway /kis
Edit: I remember Zeal telling me that Avid is a friend of his, then again why didn't "Avid" say anything in this topic yet?
Lolz you never answer the right question xD
Btw can Admin look into those 2 account? im pretty sure he changed his IP meanwhile but you can read the post and how he speak its the same xD
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=39588 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=39588) Zeal
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=37923 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=37923) Avid
Has Avid posted here? Cya Avid, love you m8.
Thanks Ariasqt /no1
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 08:57 AM
Has Avid posted here? Cya Avid, love you m8.
Thanks Ariasqt /no1
Quote from: Henryk on Feb 18, 2015, 08:56 AM
Lolz you never answer the right question xD
Btw can Admin look into those 2 account? im pretty sure he changed his IP meanwhile but you can read the post and how he speak its the same xD
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=39588 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;u=39588) Zeal
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=37923 (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=37923) Avid
Dude check the join and last active dates:
ZEAL
Join Date: Sep 12, 2014, 03:05 pm
AVID:
Last Active: Sep 12, 2014, 01:37 pm
HAHAHAHAAH
NOP NOP NOP NOP ZEAL IS NOT AVID NOP /heh /heh /heh /heh
Please explain this to me.
pretty sure the Admin can check the IP :) or Logs or something else xD since must have the same IP as Avid the day he register
what he did here was, he was still logged as Avid when he wanted to make a new account andd he f*** up big time LOL
In case mr. avid trys to deny that as well here's a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/1AvJMSR.png (http://i.imgur.com/1AvJMSR.png)
Oh and before he claims he never said he wasn't Avid:
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 15, 2015, 10:21 AM
You made a mistake :)
Im not Avid.
Ive not spoken to Avid in a long time but ill see if i can hold of him to post here for your satisfaction :)
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 09:15 AM
Ive not spoken to Avid in a long time but ill see if i can hold of him to post here for your satisfaction :)
Ofcourse you haven't btw tell me which proxy service or VPN you will use or who you'll ask to pretend to be Avid and make a fake conversation in skype or whatever.
You might want to explain why the account Zeal joined 1hour after Avid was online for the last time and why Avid hasn't been online since then. Also you didn't have a rms account before "Avid" quit?
Who are you trying to fool LOL what a pathetic liar you are you keep going on with your lies, oh maybe you don't even know that you are Avid, some kind of disease hell I don't know what makes you think that. 2 Personalities uh.. go see a doctor. /heh
Your server is dead,
The reason you are wiping is cause the servers population decreased by 50-60% over the first 2 months and it never went back up. Just like your previous server, AvidRO. You tried all your tricks and none of them work, you are hoping a fresh start will give it another chance but it won't.
Everyone else, stop joining these one-shot servers, there's already a handful of good established servers that have been up for years. Join one of those and stop giving away money to scammers and wasting your time.
Join New server -> Reborn -> Farm equips -> PvP is dead -> WoE sucks -> server dies -> repeat.
Quote from: TabooRo on Feb 18, 2015, 11:00 AM
Your server is dead,
The reason you are wiping is cause the servers population decreased by 50-60% over the first 2 months and it never went back up. Just like your previous server, AvidRO. You tried all your tricks and none of them work, you are hoping a fresh start will give it another chance but it won't.
Everyone else, stop joining these one-shot servers, there's already a handful of good established servers that have been up for years. Join one of those and stop giving away money to scammers and wasting your time.
Join New server -> Reborn -> Farm equips -> PvP is dead -> WoE sucks -> server dies -> repeat.
Thanks, he's also pretending in his new forum as if Zeal RO was new calling it "grand opening" giving out the headgears which were given out on the first launch (some kind of balloon) if you log in on the first day, deleting all previous threads etc. So yes he IS pretending ZealRO is new again. Also hes not calling it relaunch but "launch".
TabooRO i wanna tell you something, since i had the command @whomap i always checked how many players were online, on @go vend we had like 100+ vendors in autotrade mode and we disabled WOE because the only 2 guilds we had before left because of heavy LAGs and lack of competition. So i'm telling you thats not about 50% or 60%, at opening i was a normal player and hell we were a lot, like 200 people ( 400 during woe but vendor + buffer + double/triple/quadruple account ) the last day when i decided to quit the staff :D we were 125 online, 102 on vending map and a couple of double accounts... it was only 15 players or even less ^^ .
Also we spoke on Skype about making a new website since the old one was pretty ugly and it was MY idea, then he manage to find one and he wanted to change the name to TitanRO, so the server
would looks like a new one :D and more people would join it
i have proof that he wanted to change name : http://i.imgur.com/bxnyEQS.png (http://i.imgur.com/bxnyEQS.png) and skype conv http://s11.postimg.org/rwisq9pc3/titanro.jpg (http://s11.postimg.org/rwisq9pc3/titanro.jpg)
Everyone give Henry a round of applause *clap* *clap* *clap*
Funny how you didnt include the rest of the chat /kis
This design was created for a server called TitanRO.
They decided to not want it so the designer sold it to me, this chat was us joking around about changing the name.
*clap* *clap* *clap* Henry /no1
Keep going, this free advertisement is amazing /lv lets aim for a 10 page milestone.
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 12:22 PM
Keep going, this free advertisement is amazing /lv lets aim for a 10 page milestone.
Don't confuse this with free advertisement. Google its meaning in case you don't know it.
Btw *clap clap* for still ignoring the questions we asked you about you being Avid etc gogo keep doing that. Again I feel sorry for you not being raised properly it's not your fault and finally: go see a doctor to fix your dual personality. /kis /kis /kis
Us joking around? you even checked the www.titanro.com (http://www.titanro.com) dominio price LOL !! btw the rest of the chat doesnt matter, you already had that idea in your mind :) clap clap
Quote from: pichan on Feb 17, 2015, 06:45 AM
The most funny thing in Zeal's "final speech" is that he didn't answer to a single question. (He just repeated what he already said and then pretended to be the only one to has a job)
Questions like:
- Are you Avid? If not, can you prove it?
- What equips "shouldn't be there"?
- Why did you blamed Kenny of abusing his power, generating billions of zeny and +10 equips? Did you just used it as an excuse to wipe?
- Why did you delete every post you didn't like in the forum? And also banned who posted it?
- Most important: why the hell is Blackcat still a GM for the reopening? When everybody saw he faked a review impersonating 2 different persons? OH WAIT, WE ALL KNOW WHY, WHAT A SILLY QUESTION /heh
Bye bye
Nidalee
since you have time to type those kind of worthless message, what about answering the right question? " I have already answered that "
and i dont think getting s**t on like that will get more attention to your server LOL
I did miss that point,
How can you advertise Zeal RO as Grand opening? Do you even know what grand opening mean? It should be Re-opening.
Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber are both artists, they produce music and movies some people like. You are different, it's 6 pages of people discussing how you and your server are a joke. This is no good press, this is people's time and nobody will spend time on a "joke server" with a "joke admin".
You're just wasting your time re opening Zeal RO if you really think people will give it a second chance.
Might as well change your identity again and try making another fail server under a different name. Will give you better results, but the end result will be the same. A joke server that fails and wipes after 3 months.
he's not gonna answer those questions anytime soon LOL xD " Bad press is good press " more like " dumb admin is bad admin "
Most Online Ever: 16 on forum :) so good press
Quote from: Henryk on Feb 18, 2015, 01:09 PM
he's not gonna answer those questions anytime soon LOL xD " Bad press is good press " more like " dumb admin is bad admin "
Most Online Ever: 16 on forum :) so good press
Most of them just want to see how many hours/days the server will survive.
Really. you guys are all laughing about Zeal. We shouldn't. He's trying to do it over and over again. New Server -> new Player -> new Money.
Everyone reading this topic shouldn't just laugh but notice what kind of admin Zeal is. "ZealRo corruption" is a really soft title for those things Zeal did with his actions.
Zeal, I feel sorry for you... Can't you just answer the questions and say sorry? /...
I could but i wont /no1
Most of it is just hate and rants, most of it isn't true.
I've said my piece on why its being done, nothing more to add /gg
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 12:56 PM
Ud be surprised Henry :)
Bad press is good press /no1
Take Justin Beibs for example and Miley Cirus /heh so much hate yet still very famous.
At least their fans know that they won't disappear soon:
(http://i.imgur.com/zwWlCf8.png)
My domain is on auto renew /no1
Zeal, really... I don't think this is helping your case.
Just answer, maybe someone will understand you if you explain what you did and why and maybe is willing to give you another chance
Sure thing, ill post it again for a 3rd / 4th time /?
Warning, long post in the spoiler taken from my forums.
Spoiler
Hey guys, first of all, allow me to apologize for recent happenings on the server, poor Admin/Staff management has caused some issues and resulted in ZealRO wiping and starting fresh.
BEFORE YOU FLAME, GET ANGRY OR START THE TROLL TRAIN, PLEASE READ EVERYTHING BEFORE MAKING YOUR MIND UP.
LET ME STRESS TO YOU, NOTHING LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN, THE BUGS, GLITCHES AND EXPLOITS HAVE BEEN PATCHED! THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THE SERVER BALANCED AND BETTER FOR ALL PLAYERS INVOLVED.
As you are all aware the server has been getting lower and lower in terms of population, this is due to staff inactivity, lag and generally players being bored.
I must say to Abigail and Blackcat, that myself, King & Sekkar owe both of you a great big thank you, with our busy life at the moment with myself just starting back at work, caring for my son, King working 3 jobs and Sekkar away with his partner, you guys have done an amazing job being active and keeping the server in order.
Now to the important stuff.
When we launched the server, both myself and the staff did our very best to balance out the server in terms of economy, rates and more.
Part 1
Within 1 month of the server opening we then encountered a bug that was heavily abused flooding billions into the server via selling salad obtain by Lunakaligo (http://ratemyserver.net/item_db.php?item_id=1544&small=1&back=1).
The food was supposed to be dropping at 5% however was dropping 100% even from a poring.
Payers could then sell the food for 6k zeny each and even more with +10 overcharge on a merchant.
This caused a lot of items to be able to be bought quickly and lots of zeny to flood the server that shouldn't.
This was the start of the crappy economy we have at the moment.
Most of the zeny was recovered and the bug was fixed but lots of the zeny was unrecoverable and players already sold items that should have been more of an investment to purchase/sell.
Part 2
With a community poll we disabled the Reject Sword skill on MvP monsters preventing the one shot MvP kills however this was used for a long period of time to obtain lots of MvP gear that should have been harder to obtain.
After disabling the skill, this gave one group of players a huge advantage as they already had this gear and it was now much much harder for new players to obtain them and this group of players then used those gears to be able to horde and kill more and more MvP's
It then became economy breaking as this group of players controlled the market.
Part 3
We created a promotion giving new players an instant level 90 pre-trans char, some gear and battle badges.
This was working great and was abuse-proof however during this promo we switched to a new host and updated how our logs are stored to minimize the lag issue to a minimum.
Upon changing how the logs were stored there was some human error on how the script reads and was allowing players to obtain the free promo over and over and over again, flooding battle badges, battlegrounds gear, VIP passes, class mounts and much more into the server.
Players were making over 100+ chars and selling all the badges.
This also flooded lots of zeny to certain players that they should not have obtained.
Part 4 - The BIG one
As you know, the MvP rates of the server are 10x and 1x for cards.
Being 10x means that all high tier MvP equips drop at 100%
Can you see the issue here with balance? Gear that should be rare is instead super common.
.............
Now I know you're saying; "Why did you let this happen? This should of been patched and fixed before launch!"
I agree 100% however we are only human and learn from our mistakes.
The one thing I will tell you and I know most of you will agree, I love the Zeal server and love the community.
I will never close the server, both myself and you will agree that ZealRO has a lot of potential if these bugs and game breaking features were not available from a fresh start of the server.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO QUIT?
Before you decide if you want to quit and give up on ZealRO, please remember that you will be possibly moving to another server and start fresh again anyways.
If you do decide to stay with us while we make ZealRO even better we will have some re-launch incentives in place for you guys to enjoy the server at its full potential but still keep that balance in mind.
WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?
Upon this decision, our plans are to close the server for 2 weeks, set a grand opening date with a countdown on the NEW website we have that is almost ready and also doing a lot of advertisement and promotion to give us the best possible restart.
There will be some cool costumes to obtain in the few days of the relaunch and we will also be re-working all our reward systems making them more realistic and giving you more incentive to join in with events.
WHY SHOULD YOU STAY?
Our main issue was staff activity, over these next 2 weeks we will be promoting staff and hiring more staff dedicated to hosting events for event tickets and more.
We will also be re-writing some scripts to give our SQL server more ease when it comes to running query's on NPC's in-game. This will also reduce some of the lag we sometimes encounter.
King is also coming up to the last week of 3 real life jobs and cutting down to 1.
Sekkar is back from his partner's tomorrow.
And myself, I'm now settled in at work in real life and no longer need to prove myself so I can assure you I'll be here on weekdays for about 2/3 hours after work and I'll carry on the way I am at the moment on weekends which is still pretty much 24/7 at my computer screen.
BUT I DONATED, WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
Although donations are for helping the server improve and develop I am not a thief, you will get everything back.
You will all have 12 days upon the re-launch to re-claim your GC.
If you don't re-claim during this time I'm afraid its too late as they will be removed from the database for good.
I hope you all understand this decision and how it would benefit the server for the greater potential from now and in the future and I surely hope you will all stick around and help keep this server in the top 5 mid rate servers on the internet.
With all the above bugs fixed, patched and taken care off, restarting the server is probably possible to make ZealRO the best balanced mid rate server at present.
Much love from my self and the staff (no homo) <3
Bring on 1st March for the Zeal Ragnarok Online re-launch :-*
I'm a nice guy if you know me but if you talk crap then ill just go into defense mode like any other human and attack or troll back /no1
Like my parents said as i was growing up, "if someone hits you, hit them back" I stand by that /ho
--not needed--
But on a serious level, i truly believe that the decision to start over is the best decision there is for the good and better for ZealRO, its players and its future.
The server was dead, everyone had everything because of the bugs, glitches & exploits, there was no fun and nothing for players to do, was so hard to add more features / events due to players not needing to obtain anything also because they got everything from the bugs, glitches & exploits.
Players had about 3 years worth of playing within 4 months.
Hmm wonder how long it will take to be bashed about that comment? looking forward to it.
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 18, 2015, 02:28 PM
--not needed--
But on a serious level, i truly believe that the decision to start over is the best decision there is for the good and better for ZealRO, its players and its future.
Players had about 3 years worth of playing within 4 months.
Hmm wonder how long it will take to be bashed about that comment? looking forward to it.
1. Yes under normal circumstances starting over would be a good decision but knowing your mentality (check avid RO) I can guess for you it's simply for exploiting some players who don't know what kind of guy you are.
2. Players had about 3 years worth of playing within 4 months. like what? explain that please.
3. meh, thing is, you made a fool of yourself so taking serious whatever you say now after all the s*** you've done is quite impossible. If a guy lies 10 times and does a 11th statement you simply don't believe anything anymore. (guess your parents didn't teach you that either and in case you really have a son try to make it better as a father than your parents did and don't teach him that lying is a good thing).
4. your statement what your parents taught you "if someone hits you hit them back" made me laugh my donkey off if that's all they've taught you oh lord. I guess there'd be atom bombs 24/7 since Hiroshima and Nagasaki if everyone has your mentality then again it's not like we hit you we're stating facts which you deny there's some difference no?
Quote from: Ariasqt on Feb 18, 2015, 05:01 PM
2. Players had about 3 years worth of playing within 4 months. like what? explain that please.
I think what he meant by that statement was that the rate of how some people geared up should have taken them 3 years to grind for without the bugs/exploits
ZEAL RO IS ABSOLUTELY AVID RO
i remember the name Latheesan,name of his staff in Avid RO.. Latheesan is also staff in zeal ro. am i right Nihz? /gg
http://zealro.wikia.com/wiki/Zeal_Staff (http://zealro.wikia.com/wiki/Zeal_Staff)
Latheesan is also a friend, we are a group that's been talking for 10 years /no1
Avid went A.W.O.L, he comes on Skype sometimes to chat but other than that we don't hear from him that often anymore. /kis
Why do you have this obsession over pretending you're not Avid. I know you love to lie and ignore people when they say things, but it's getting out of hand.
http://i.imgur.com/ggItY0F.png (http://i.imgur.com/ggItY0F.png)
woops, doubled one.
Latheesan wasn't a member of my staff but King was. Latheesan was the webdesigner, I believe. And keep in mind this is Avid's THIRD server. The first one his cousin killed by changing everything on him -- according to Avid -- but then he went and added his cousin as a top level Admin on AvidRO a couple weeks after telling me this.
http://i.imgur.com/DFDwRyo.png (http://i.imgur.com/DFDwRyo.png)
Does this look like something AvidZeal could properly write up himself, when you look at how he communicates? I wrote that. They changed a little here and there and replaced some words, but I wrote it originally for the GM/Helper system. Where -did- you get that, if AvidRO was shut down and gone, and Avid isn't involved in your server, hm? How about that?
Honestly, it's infuriating, seeing my staff recruitment thread there on your forum. Can't believe you're doing it for this one, too. You have absolutely no shame.
Edit: ha they even forgot to replace the 'Helpers' in the last couple paragraphs. :>
Edit2: Actually I think this was originally posted in our internal forums as a guideline to existing staff. Maybe that's why he felt safe stealing it.
That must of took you soo long Zhin /heh
Your wasting your valued time on me, much love /lv
I really can't understand why you continue with that, Zeal.
You're making a fool of yourself, we all saw you and Avid are the same. Can you just answer back our questions? And maybe give some explanation?
What exactly do you want me too answer? Ill do my best after work /kis
Really? What to answer to?
Quote from: pichan on Feb 17, 2015, 06:45 AM
- Are you Avid? If not, can you prove it?
- What equips "shouldn't be there"?
- Why did you blamed Kenny of abusing his power, generating billions of zeny and +10 equips? Did you just used it as an excuse to wipe?
- Why did you delete every post you didn't like in the forum? And also banned who posted it?
- Most important: why the hell is Blackcat still a GM for the reopening? When everybody saw he faked a review impersonating 2 different persons? OH WAIT, WE ALL KNOW WHY, WHAT A SILLY QUESTION /heh
Bye bye
Nidalee
I would also add: Why you still keep lying?
Quote from: Sekkar on Feb 18, 2015, 10:18 PM
I think what he meant by that statement was that the rate of how some people geared up should have taken them 3 years to grind for without the bugs/exploits
I dare to say i had the best equipment on this server +9 Dboots , 1 mvp card etc. But how is that worth of playing 3 years of RO? MVP card is just luck, and satan drop is even on official server 50% drop no? Proxy also was still a pain in the donkey to get same for variants etc. Exactly what stuff we got by grinding with bugs and exploits as personally I never used any? Feel free to explain.
And Zeal: eh.. I feel dumb to keeptalking to some kid who won't accept his mistakes. bb
Quote from: Zeal on Feb 19, 2015, 05:03 AM
That must of took you soo long Zhin /heh
Your wasting your valued time on me, much love /lv
I wasted a good four/five months on you, Avid. Five more minutes to lightshot a few posts and your blatant use of my work doesn't really make much of a difference.
I am locking this now. There is nothing more to add to this other than spams. If anyone feel they have anything important that should be included in this topic, feel free to pm me and I will consider reopening this topic or direct you to open a new topic.
Penalty is on its way to trollers.