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Offline Cawliflower

You know it's bad when players...
« on: Jun 09, 2013, 06:45 PM »
So, you know it's bad when your own players PM you a link to a forum announcement that imitates your own announcement you posted a day ago. Is it really that difficult to come up with your own words? This wouldn't be a big deal if the server didn't have a past practice of imitating my projects (click here).

Seriously, please come up with your own ideas going forward. Was it really worth stealing a paragraph from one of my announcements, tweaking the words, and posting it on your server?

Proof is attached.

My original topic
His imitation topic

P.S. Please don't @recall your entire server to this thread like last time to de-rail it and do your dirty work, please don't resort to name-calling/insults as you guys did last time, etc. If you're going to respond, do so within reason because nobody has time for all that childish non-sense.
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yesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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Offline Necrophiliac

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #1 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:01 PM »
I don't get it, you think you're the first the first person to think of seasonal donation events?

Offline Cawliflower

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #2 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:02 PM »
I don't get it, you think you're the first the first person to think of seasonal donation events?

My paragraph:
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The eo-RO Administration has a steep budget through the consistent advertising, increased spending towards improving our hosting, and other miscellaneous expenses. Our plan for the summer is to continue to increase our advertising budget and attract players looking for a server to call home.

Theirs:
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A steep budget through consistent advertising, spending towards improvement of the project's hardware, hosting, and other miscellaneous expenses. The goal for 2013's summer is to continue to increase our advertising budget and attract members that are looking for a server to call home. This of course is not possible, without the support of the community.

I'm too tired to bold the similarities. Just read them a few times, rinse & repeat.

I clearly stated it was the copying of our announcement's content, not the promotion idea itself. Everyone does those promotions and if you read everything you'd notice our promotions aren't the same.
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yesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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Offline Necrophiliac

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #3 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:09 PM »
Even that seems like the same generic message you'll find in any server's announcements.  Is there really a point to this topic, or do you just like having drama?  I mean does him doing that negatively affect you in any way whatsoever?

Offline Cawliflower

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #4 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:10 PM »
Even that seems like the same generic message you'll find in any server's announcements.  Is there really a point to this topic, or do you just like having drama?  I mean does him doing that negatively affect you in any way whatsoever?
No. It isn't. Anyway, thanks for coming out!
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Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #5 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:22 PM »
Even if it seems like a generic message, EvolveRO did copy word for word almost. That's still kind of a sad thing to do... regardless if copying has a negative impact or not on the copied server. Not trying to induce drama, but that is how I feel. Oh well, all the best to the two servers (and hopefully, nothing else is copied similarly lol).
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Offline SukiChii

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #6 on: Jun 09, 2013, 07:53 PM »
You would think they would edit it a bit...

Offline RoseTea

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #7 on: Jun 09, 2013, 08:00 PM »
This wouldn't be a big deal
It's two sentences.  It still isn't, it's an interesting addition to the original theft, at best.  Get back to us when it's something more substantial that is actively undermining your server.

Offline Klassione

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #8 on: Jun 09, 2013, 08:05 PM »
Even that seems like the same generic message you'll find in any server's announcements.  Is there really a point to this topic, or do you just like having drama?  I mean does him doing that negatively affect you in any way whatsoever?

That's what RMS has been about for a long, long time now. Some community interaction, and a bit of advertising here and there, of course.

But hey, proceed.

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Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #9 on: Jun 09, 2013, 08:23 PM »
The RMS Commentary Squad is blasting off againnnnnnnnnnn~ Ahhhhhhhhhhh

Offline DeePee

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #10 on: Jun 09, 2013, 09:49 PM »
Heh. That's hilarious.

I think that the fact that they copied something THIS SMALL just shows how creative they really are.

Offline Bavington

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #11 on: Jun 09, 2013, 10:49 PM »
I'd probably take my skeptical off if you posted the dates when they were posted.

Offline Cawliflower

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #12 on: Jun 09, 2013, 10:55 PM »
I'd probably take my skeptical off if you posted the dates when they were posted.
... Huh?

It says in the screenshots. You can view the original topics via the link. I only SS'd them in case their Administration edited the announcement.
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yesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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Offline Triper

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #13 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:14 PM »
I'd probably take my skeptical off if you posted the dates when they were posted.
Cookie's Server- Yesterday 02:04 AM
Ancient's Server - Today 04:48 PM

This is what I see at both urls but I'm not registered in them neither I know what is the gmt frame in each board or how they're set to work so yeah, it can end being different from the real thing.
The only sure thing is that exists a difference of near 13 hour from each post so one was for sure made before the other.
Which one? Someone go register at both boards and set up, if you're able to, to force the board to auto-detect/manual adjust it to your gmt time at your profile. See if both are working at 100% after that and check those timestamps.

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Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #14 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:20 PM »
Triper, its not like you weren't at the previous thread between the two.

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Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #15 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:26 PM »
Well, I don't see a reason to have to make an account on both forums to prove the time stamps regarding who posted the sentences first.

1. EvolveRO's first statement after the greeting... isn't even a complete sentence lol whereas EO-RO's statement makes sense.

2. I doubt Cookie would post a thread like this if he was the one who copied the 2 sentences...

Hm. Well, if someone wants to confirm, I guess they can go ahead XD. But yeah, interesting catch by EO-RO's players I suppose.
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Offline Bavington

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #16 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:27 PM »
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So this is at GMT +1, about a 7 hour difference between the two posts. pretty suspect to me

Offline Meta

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #17 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:33 PM »
It looks like the EvolveRO version was made with a content spinner.

Offline Kimchiii

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #18 on: Jun 09, 2013, 11:44 PM »
that is sad :(
and this isnt the first time EvolveRO caught in something "negative" right o_o

Offline Cawliflower

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #19 on: Jun 10, 2013, 12:13 AM »
that is sad :(
and this isnt the first time EvolveRO caught in something "negative" right o_o
They continually have a past practice of copying content, features, dialog, topics, forum/naming schemes, et cetera. There's more threads on RMS about my unfortunate dealings with their Admin and his odd knack for imitating me. The first thread was created after he got a hold of my Skype and decided to insult me when he found out I had opened a LR server. Then, he acted as if he never knew me and I posted screenshots citing that he was indeed lying all the while he sent his players and staff to bash/insult me.
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yesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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Offline Triper

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #20 on: Jun 10, 2013, 09:14 AM »
Triper, its not like you weren't at the previous thread between the two.
But but but ... if there is a small chance where something is not what it looks, I can't just go and say "YOSH, 100% CORRECT, BAD GUY IS BAD! *WOOF*", it's to be sure or ask even if I would say that, now, after Bavington's post it seems that the dices are with Cawliflower pretty much at 100%.

Offline Bavington

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #21 on: Jun 10, 2013, 09:44 AM »
But but but ... if there is a small chance where something is not what it looks, I can't just go and say "YOSH, 100% CORRECT, BAD GUY IS BAD! *WOOF*", it's to be sure or ask even if I would say that, now, after Bavington's post it seems that the dices are with Cawliflower pretty much at 100%.

Would you say my post contained decisive evidence  /gg

on topic, it is silly that they would copy you I mean it is a good idea and there is nothing wrong with copying what another server doing if its successful, people do it all the time in real life applications, but just that soon. Its sort of  /...

Offline Quote

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #22 on: Jun 10, 2013, 11:17 AM »
First, I'd like to ask why is Cawliflower not yet banned from these forums. He keeps bringing up these "accusations", which have really nothing to add here.

Second, this donation event was my idea, not Ancient's. And it came up about 4 days ago. If anyone want proof, just add me on Skype and I'll send the message copy(which afaik, can't be forged). It'd be great if a RMS moderator would take the initiative to clear this up.

Your efforts are really sad, Cawliflower. Can't win through your own merits?

EDIT: Removed part of the topic, after discussing the event with Triper.
Adding a conversation screenshot from the discussion about our Double Donation period:


So for all that matters, the decision to run DD was made before any of the posts.
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2013, 01:01 PM by Quote »

Offline Rayeth

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #23 on: Jun 10, 2013, 12:07 PM »
Thank god ancient do dont reply to this kind of drama and s***... you're pulling all these accusation for a simple fact that is because of donation. I tried your server and you're losing players for the fact that you have two servers. Focus on how you can get players on your server and not trying to stir up dramas... for all i know you're losing players on your first server because the priority is with this new server which you made after evolve ro started.  /heh

The irony here... Keep talking all these nonsense and s***, you only making your server look bad... and to ancient don't even reply to this thread let them rot in jealousy. Complaining about donation really? How many server do a double donation nowadays ffs!  /heh

This is such a laughing matter, poor thing. /heh
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2013, 12:20 PM by Rayeth »

Offline note

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #24 on: Jun 10, 2013, 01:41 PM »
Cawliflower if it isn't your ego, it's your dramatic side that's always stirring things up negatively you started a fire that is everlasting and it will always be behind your back, until the spell somehow starts to degenerate. Do yourself a favor, make your mind up as to whether you want to manage a low or mid rate, because we all know you simply cannot expect both of your servers to be sucking everyone's you know what.

Completely irrelevant to the topic, my question to you Cawliflower, why do you go around the RMS pretentiously complementing DeePee/Boreas on their server, and behind conversations discuss dirty plans to destroy their community (which lol is literally impossible anyway, for someone like you to accomplish), weiner riding much?

Offline Cawliflower

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #25 on: Jun 10, 2013, 01:46 PM »
First, I'd like to ask why is Cawliflower not yet banned from these forums. He keeps bringing up these "accusations", which have really nothing to add here.

Second, this donation event was my idea, not Ancient's. And it came up about 4 days ago. If anyone want proof, just add me on Skype and I'll send the message copy(which afaik, can't be forged). It'd be great if a RMS moderator would take the initiative to clear this up.

Your efforts are really sad, Cawliflower. Can't win through your own merits?

EDIT: Removed part of the topic, after discussing the event with Triper.
Adding a conversation screenshot from the discussion about our Double Donation period:


So for all that matters, the decision to run DD was made before any of the posts.
Instead of posting something that doesn't have anything to do with the original reason for this thread, READ. Banned? XD You have quite a lot to learn, Quote. First of all, you should really read the RMS rules & regulations which would tell you that I haven't done anything wrong and you're just trying anything to defend your Administrator.

It was the dialog he copied from my announcement that prompted the thread. Not the donation promotion itself. I don't care about the promotion--as I stated, if you had the ability to read, it wasn't the promotion. We've already discussed this. Again, please learn to read.

Anyway, we've already proven this to be true. So, per my request, can we lock this thread Triper? No point in discussing it further. Now we've got a bunch of his GMs trying to defend something that this thread wasn't even founded on.

Cawliflower if it isn't your ego, it's your dramatic side that's always stirring things up negatively you started a fire that is everlasting and it will always be behind your back, until the spell somehow starts to degenerate. Do yourself a favor, make your mind up as to whether you want to manage a low or mid rate, because we all know you simply cannot expect both of your servers to be sucking everyone's you know what.

Completely irrelevant to the topic, my question to you Cawliflower, why do you go around the RMS pretentiously complementing DeePee/Boreas on their server, and behind conversations discuss dirty plans to destroy their community (which lol is literally impossible anyway, for someone like you to accomplish), weiner riding much?
Lol, interesting... I had a good laugh. Stop raging bro. Although, I'm glad your Administration/community follows me around on RMS. I'm pretty famous. Since when did I say I'd destroy their community? Are you trying to maliciously malign me with something to destroy my character? Try again. That's never been my intention at all. So, grow up.
« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2013, 01:52 PM by Cawliflower »
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yesterday im ask gm crewkie hitler for pls ad balance costum like angel wing or 4slot narutaro BUT HE SAY NO.. um sry i thot this was ranganarok and not a nazis???????

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Offline Triper

Re: You know it's bad when players...
« Reply #26 on: Jun 10, 2013, 02:56 PM »
I guess the important part is cleared by now.

We've seen that the concept behind the posts wasn't copied[which is a good thing, I must say]. The words may be but this is a personal thing between Cookie and Ancient that they can settle through PM/Skype[if they want to, up2them] since I smell that anything more added here would just generate more and more drama and this wouldn't stop ...

I know, I know, it would be an amazing topic for some!! But the fun doesn't last forever, sorry[this is for all the sides, even flamers and trolls] :(


PS - If someone wants to add something to this topic, PM me it and I may re-open the topic depending on what people want to add.

« Last Edit: Jun 10, 2013, 03:07 PM by Triper »