What do you guys think? - ShiningMoonRO

Started by TonyStark, Jun 20, 2017, 11:37 PM

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TonyStark

I got banned for "advertising a server" in my guild chat, which is honestly kind of funny. Do you guys think talking about another server in guild chat is considered advertising? Do you guys think personal questions like this in private settings should be confronted? I'm just curious, lol. This is Shining Moon RO, btw, lol.






Oh, he also banned me because I refused to respond to his PMs, lol. It's really funny to me, honestly.

Terpsichore

Staff that randomly reads party/guild chat and admits it publicly is a big red flag to me. Mapspy shouldn't even be enabled on a server with any integrity. Sadly that's rarely the case and power tripping is more common than not.

MetallicMonkey

He violated your privacy.

His game, his rules though. Just find another server and have fun. Don't spend time thinking about it.

TonyStark

Quote from: MetallicMonkey on Jun 21, 2017, 01:26 AM
He violated your privacy.

His game, his rules though. Just find another server and have fun. Don't spend time thinking about it.

Yeah, I already moved on to another server. I just didn't want anyone else to waste their time on a server with an admin that's that jealous/psycho that they read messages and get mad when you compare them to another server in private, lol. I wish I knew before I spent an entire week on there, so, this is me telling everyone before they get in too deep.

MetallicMonkey

Quote from: TonyStark on Jun 21, 2017, 01:42 AM
Yeah, I already moved on to another server. I just didn't want anyone else to waste their time on a server with an admin that's that jealous/psycho that they read messages and get mad when you compare them to another server in private, lol. I wish I knew before I spent an entire week on there, so, this is me telling everyone before they get in too deep.

You should also write a review for them if you haven't already done so. I usually (and probably many players alike) read those reviews before joining. I especially look for corrupt administration teams and toxic communities.

Yuzo

That's disgusting. If people see this, they won't play this server at all.

Lunar@SM

Originally i wasn't even sure i wanted to respond to this topic, but guess there's no way around it.

Wondering why theres such a gap between the messages posted? Well that's because it wasn't me reading the servers messages or anyone elses. But rather Blank pming me about her talking about another server. So i pmed her and not trying to rat out her own guildmate. Well that didn't work out as planned. I hoped to resolve this without having to ban but it didn't go that way. In the gap of the messages she tried to get another player to quit the server with her. And of course i didn't know about that either, but i was told after my last message to her. Which is when i decided to take action even if i did not want to ban her.

Reading all messages at the same time? Heck, yes i'm just that awesome. Making a script read all messages? Who the f*** would do anything like that? The amount of SQL querys to even attempt something like that would kill any resource just after like 1min considering the size such chat logs would have.

I can't read the messages nor do i even want to read what people think and would say. Everyone has their own opinions and i hoped i could convince her not to quit but she kept going on anyway.

So i tried to be nice and make up a story where her guildmate wouldn't be blamed and instead i would be the villain. Well it worked, but enough is enough.

Just take a look at the screenshot and see for yourself that theres a gigantic gap. Then take another look at my servers patchnotes and you would see its nowhere near possible for me to do all that and do the updates / fixes and support at the same time. Unless i managed to split myself !
Shining Moon Servers:
Helheim - kRO-like official gears. Max Level 200/70
Niflheim - jRO, iRO and kRO gears. Max Level 200/70

https://www.shining-moon.com

TonyStark

Quote from: Lunar@SM on Jun 21, 2017, 09:34 AM
Wondering why theres such a gap between the messages posted? Well that's because it wasn't me reading the servers messages or anyone elses. But rather Blank pming me about her talking about another server. So i pmed her and not trying to rat out her own guildmate. Well that didn't work out as planned. I hoped to resolve this without having to ban but it didn't go that way. In the gap of the messages she tried to get another player to quit the server with her. And of course i didn't know about that either, but i was told after my last message to her. Which is when i decided to take action even if i did not want to ban her.

Dude, what are you on?? Zorthei and I were friends 3 years ago on another server but we lost contact with each other because the server we were on went down. I was trying to get his contact information so that we could keep in touch after I quit. I wasn't trying to get him to leave with me. I was trying to keep in contact with him so that, in the future, I wouldn't have to randomly encounter him on another server just to find him. I wanted to maintain the friendship this time around. It's not my fault that you assumed I was trying to get someone to come with me when you knew nothing about the context. As Terpsichore said before, power trip and all that.

Lunar@SM

Well he told me that he wouldn't leave the server. And unless you talked to him about it he would've had no way of knowing. So really, i'm not on anything. If it was power trip i wouldn't even have tried to talk to you.

As i said before, i liked you. And i would've hoped for you to continue play here. I wasn't the one posting your guild chat to me in discord, that was your so called friends. Even the one you tried to get in contact with. Which is why he wasn't responding to you in guild chat since he was busy taking screenshots - lol...

Shining Moon Servers:
Helheim - kRO-like official gears. Max Level 200/70
Niflheim - jRO, iRO and kRO gears. Max Level 200/70

https://www.shining-moon.com

Bue

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Quote from: Lunar@SM on Jun 21, 2017, 09:34 AM
Originally i wasn't even sure i wanted to respond to this topic, but guess there's no way around it.

Wondering why theres such a gap between the messages posted? Well that's because it wasn't me reading the servers messages or anyone elses. But rather Blank pming me about her talking about another server. So i pmed her and not trying to rat out her own guildmate. Well that didn't work out as planned. I hoped to resolve this without having to ban but it didn't go that way. In the gap of the messages she tried to get another player to quit the server with her. And of course i didn't know about that either, but i was told after my last message to her. Which is when i decided to take action even if i did not want to ban her.

Reading all messages at the same time? Heck, yes i'm just that awesome. Making a script read all messages? Who the f*** would do anything like that? The amount of SQL querys to even attempt something like that would kill any resource just after like 1min considering the size such chat logs would have.

I can't read the messages nor do i even want to read what people think and would say. Everyone has their own opinions and i hoped i could convince her not to quit but she kept going on anyway.

So i tried to be nice and make up a story where her guildmate wouldn't be blamed and instead i would be the villain. Well it worked, but enough is enough.

Just take a look at the screenshot and see for yourself that theres a gigantic gap. Then take another look at my servers patchnotes and you would see its nowhere near possible for me to do all that and do the updates / fixes and support at the same time. Unless i managed to split myself !

Takes less than an hour and 100 lines of code to setup the mysql user account and privileges, orm for log tables, regex for keywords, smtp to email, and schedule on crontab. ::)

And you started off hinting and admitting that you are a creepy :) stalker, intimidating a player with tos violations, justifying why you are stalking players, and then backpedal on RMS about the stalking. Also, the "I liked you" part, wtf. And your tos violations doesn't matter because guilds move servers together, which is acceptable.

It isn't a bad idea to monitor the server for abnormalities, but you went about it in the worse way possible, i.e. admitting it even though it could be off-putting. Though, players shouldn't trust server owners with their credential nor donation related information because almost every server have no infosec policies and might even be malicious and exploit that information, such as trying the credentials to standard services like amazon or gmail, since no liability to the server owner.  Or the worse case is bundling malware (key-loggers) with installers. >.>

TonyStark

Even if he didn't monitor my messages, I think a lot of us can come to a mutual agreement that it's pretty creepy to be jealous simply because I mentioned TWO characteristics about another server that I liked in a PRIVATE conversation. It's childish and possessive.

Bue

Quote from: TonyStark on Jun 21, 2017, 07:50 PM
Even if he didn't monitor my messages, I think a lot of us can come to a mutual agreement that it's pretty creepy to be jealous simply because I mentioned TWO characteristics about another server that I liked in a PRIVATE conversation. It's childish and possessive.

Go play on LimitRO and get Lai in here.  /heh

I can already imagine he has a stockpile of screenshots of you and him in GM hiding mode. xD "I liked you", so I followed you around to see how I can improve game play and reasons. It writes itself.

Lunar@SM

Quote@TonyStark:
Do you guys think talking about another server in guild chat is considered advertising?

If it wasn't then joining any server and talking about that server in whispers and guild chats wouldn't be advertise. Because according to you they're "private" and therefor not advertise.

And as you can see from my previous messages that it wasn't me reading your chats but your own guild members. And which apparently some didn't like it so they wrote me.

Quote@Bue:
And exactly how was i a creepy stalker? I was sitting in prontera and only greeted Alouros when he passed me. I didn't follow anyone nor have i read their private messages. Those messages were sent to me by 2 other members of his guild. Not because i asked for it but because they sent it. True there would've been a better way to approach this but i did not want to cause any distrust between them.
Because at the said time i thought the situation could've still been resolved without doing anything but just talk.

Quote@TonyStark:
Even if he didn't monitor my messages, I think a lot of us can come to a mutual agreement that it's pretty creepy to be jealous simply because I mentioned TWO characteristics about another server that I liked in a PRIVATE conversation. It's childish and possessive.

I see. Then a  question. You're saying im jealous and possesive yet i said if you wanted to stop playing the server you could just leave and play LimitRO if you wish. Unless you would want to talk about it. But of course that part is one of the points that you've excluded from the screenshots. Just like the point where you spam the guild full asking about skypes, facebooks, twitters, discords.

Quote@Bue:
because guilds move servers together, which is acceptable.

Guilds moving between servers alright, nothing to say against that. But it's different when the own members don't want to talk about it.

@Bue:
"I liked you", so I followed you around to see how I can improve game play and reasons. It writes itself.

I did not follow anyone around. Im sitting the whole time in town unless someone needs me somewhere. And the i like you part isn't meant as freaking i love you. I don't know the person and i honestly don't care about him. If he wants to quit its his choice, just like i told him. I merely said that because it's my choice whether or not i like or dislike when i talk to someone. Not because you like to stalk a person which you apparently seem to know quite alot about, Bue.
Shining Moon Servers:
Helheim - kRO-like official gears. Max Level 200/70
Niflheim - jRO, iRO and kRO gears. Max Level 200/70

https://www.shining-moon.com

Bue

You might as well say that the screenshots were fabricated and I would have an easier time believing that.  ::)

I don't think anyone is fooled.

Lunar@SM

Well it's good if no one is fooled, since its the truth.
Shining Moon Servers:
Helheim - kRO-like official gears. Max Level 200/70
Niflheim - jRO, iRO and kRO gears. Max Level 200/70

https://www.shining-moon.com