Warning - asaRO

Started by Seona, May 04, 2010, 12:32 AM

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Seona

I'll start off with my name,

Hi, I'm Admin Seona from DCRO.
I was on one of my characters, when I had a player PM me, advertising a different server.
Once I saw this I hoped on my Admin account right away and jailed him/her so I could accuse him/her Of what they had done.
Once Banned they then hopped on a different character and I noticed right away, and jailed him/her again.
They then Declined the accusations and once I said I was the one they messaged on another character they quickly logged out and made a new account/character.
Then they flooded our main town with the advertising once again.
We immediately IP banned him/her.
This is the server they advertised
asaRO

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=7302&itv=999&url_sname=asaRO

[email protected] is the email so other ro owners may keep an eye out for this player.

Screenshot



Vol-Opt

I can concur with the events which occurred in the dead center of Prontera ~1 hour ago. I first caught wind of the occurrance when both a GM (on her player account) and a regular player PM'd me, complaining about someone advertising. Having been given the proper proof over MSN, I proceeded to ban the player via the CP. Unfortunately, as the CP functions a bit slowly, this player had time to feign ignorance to Seona while sitting in jail. Upon the account's ban going through, the player immediately created another account. However, rather than silently PMing players (likely due to the realization that the GM team knew what he/she was up) they proceeded to flood the streets of Prontera with advertisement messages. Fortunately, Administrator Toxic IP banned them shortly thereafter.

As you can see, Seona has already posted the necessary information to ensure that this low-life doesn't do the same to your server, but I would like to give my two cents to the Server Administrator, in the event that they come across this thread:

I am not the type to jump to conclusions. Very often, I try to be a lenient man. I understand that there is a chance that you did not put this player to the task of spamming advertisements in our central town of commerce, and putting our loyal players at unease. However, I feel that you should be held accountable for what your over-ambitious players - or perhaps your staff (there was mention from this player that they were a GM at your server) happens to do on other servers. And if you have ANY dignity, you will hold them accountable. If you refuse to heed my words, then I can only hope that RMS will show no mercy in judging your server.

That is all.

Thank you, Seona, for posting this. And a thanks to the rest of the Death Card staff for handling this situation so accordingly.

GorthexTiger

This has happened on my server as well. If I can find screenies I'll post them.

I just IP banned them right then and there: easy fix.
Read about the "Great Dramas" Part 1, Part 2, & Part 3


Roan

Thanks for the info, stuff like this makes you wanna stay online 24/7 just in-case they attack your server  :P

Cyric

#4
This type of server owner needs to learn some ethics and yes there are now bans in place. This Spiel person even tried something as outrageously stupid as to use the rank of Admin when he tired to register on our private forum. I saw that while tracking his IP. When that one did not work he tried something even cuter by adding his server name [IN BRACKETS], to his user name. Here I want to thank Admin Seona and Deputy Head GM Vol-Opt for having our back where cretins like this are concerned.
From Alexander the grammarian; To refrain from fault-finding, and not in a reproachful way to chide those who uttered any barbarous or solecistic or strange-sounding expression; but dexterously to introduce the very expression which ought to have been used, and in the way of answer or giving confirmation, or joining in an inquiry about the thing itself, not about the word, or by some other fit suggestion.

Flipsyde

#5
As an Admin of DCRO, I recently had the pleasure of talking to their fellow Admin, From what a long talk felt like, This was merely an understanding between both parties. An advert came along and claimed false news as he advertised, And his IP was completely different from the owner of asaRO. I don't intend to stick to one particular side, But i feel it was the Admin's job to make note of it in a rule that players are not supposed to advert the server in any unfair means. As for the admin who hopped over on our server to clarify this, He was gestured by me and my fellow staff to have a word with my boss through means of PM. I feel this was an action taken quickly, Yes a job well done, But also a job incomplete due to both server owners consent not taken into this. I have compared IP's of the owner and player that was IP banned, They do not match. Hence I would conclude saying the final word being said, after both owners have actually had contact with one another.

Spiel

#6
I am the owner of asaRO. im bit shaken by the message from my forum's chatbox done by some person (whoever that person may be). I hadn't been notified as the report thread was made to let me know of the false advert. I want to clarify that Im not tolerating all people (staff & players) coming from my server to advertise in other servers. I dont want them to do such things. I dont know who that person was. That person is trying to destroy my good reputation. I traced all the IP's of my players and its location. But none came from the range of IP given by Flipsyde.  I traced that IP for its location and the results came from Taguig, Pasig, Pateros, Philippines. I dont have players on that area. That IP range are now blocked. This issue has been settled and closed.

asRO is different from asaRO.

asRO's site is asRO.tk

asaRO's site is asaropk.net

theOnewhoRecruit

IM THE ONE WHO RECRUIT AND SPAM IN YOUR PRONTERA......... COULD I ASK FOR APOLOGY AND  PLEASE BLAME THE ASARO SERVER COZ   IM THE REALLY ONE WHO RECRUITED ... SORRY IM JUST A PLAYER WHO WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF CO-PLAYER SORRY FOR DISTURBING AND SORRY ALSO ASARO FOR DESTROYING YOUR NAME... DONT BLAME ASARO PLEASE..... IM THE ONE WHOS TO BE BLAME... ASARO DONT KNOW THAT IM RECRUITING ..... PLEASE UNDERSTAND....... CAN WE CLEAN THE NAME OF ASARO PLEASE.... SORRY FOR EVERY THING IVE DONE AND SORRY SORRY SORRY PLEASE    IM BEGGING YOU DONT BLAME ASARO ..... :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob /sob

DarkDevine

Capslock and Smily-Spam

TotalRO - 10x/10x

GorthexTiger

Copied straight out of my ipbanlist table.

'180.191.10.38', '2010-03-01 22:32:35', '2015-03-01 22:32:35', 'Advertising'

It should be the one mentioned above.

I got a couple of IntenseRO advertisers, but they stopped once I IP banned them.

Already checked: didn't bother to take screenshots.

Have fun.
Read about the "Great Dramas" Part 1, Part 2, & Part 3


Final

I find it interesting how 7 minutes after the admin of Asaro comes on, the lil spammer comes here to "apologize".
/finals thoughts

Ah, fun times on RMS~ http://www.paste-it.net/private/u6c168b/   (Added more~)
-- Signature too big again.  You were notified previously on the same issue.

- So? Stop b****.

Cyric

#11
Quote from: Spiel on May 06, 2010, 05:55 AM
.  I traced that IP for its location and the results came from Taguig, Pasig, Pateros, Philippines. I dont have players on that area. That IP range are now blocked.

TAKEN FROM MY FORUM AS AN IP TRACE ON SPIEL's ACCOUNT:
180.190.162.61      
Guest    
The username you tried to use contains the reserved name 'Admin'. Please try another username.
?action=register2    
Today at 04:56:43 AM

Odd, Spiel it is a very closely match YOUR IP.

I have a similar IP listed above and it is registered to the one called Spiel... This is what an IP trace gave me when "ADMIN" Spiel tried to first register his account to get on my forum. He then tried the name Spiel[asaRO], which I altered. Note the 180??? Same region as what Gorthex has listed. The same region. Someone here is full of s*** and I think that I will have my business partner list this asaRO on the Top 100 Corrupt/Bad Server list we are now running publicly. Someone needs to check the SPAMMER's IP and match it to Admin Douchebag's.

From Alexander the grammarian; To refrain from fault-finding, and not in a reproachful way to chide those who uttered any barbarous or solecistic or strange-sounding expression; but dexterously to introduce the very expression which ought to have been used, and in the way of answer or giving confirmation, or joining in an inquiry about the thing itself, not about the word, or by some other fit suggestion.

Flipsyde

Didn't claim ownership, Just like seona, I too am an admin giving my opinion on this after a long talk with him, Didn't intend to steal your thunder man.

Spiel

You're judging me too fast Cyric. In the first place, I'm not making s*** to you and to your server. Why are you doing this to me? Im very serious in clarifying this things to clear my name. If you found match in IP's, its because we're in the same country, not in the same location. Most of ISP's here were using same IP range. Remember you are the one saying bad things in me and to my server. I have read all those messages in my chatbox. I stayed calm. Coz im not guilty of this things. I didnt made any mistakes. First step i made is to go to your server to explain,clarify and settle things. I found Admin Zodiac and told him everything. I leave him my YM for us to talk. But there's no signs of you.  On the second day, I visited RMS and I was shock from replies coming from you. So i decided to login again in your server with the same purpose and i found Admin Flipsyde. Again I explained everything to him and Im very thankful to him for listening to my side. You're making a fuss with this issue.


QUOTE FROM CYRIC:

"Someone here is full of s*** and I think that I will have my business partner list this asaRO on the Top 100 Corrupt/Bad Server list we are now running publicly. Someone needs to check the SPAMMER's IP and match it to Admin Douchebag's."


Is that a proper way to solve this issue? Making an immediate action without hearing our side first? You are the one who is destroying us.
Posted on: May 06, 2010, 04:50 pm

why should i make an apology for the act that i haven't done? on the first place i have not authorized any person to advertise on the server mentioned.. im just defending my self as well as my server from the said issue..i have already spent hundreds of dollars just to run my server and not to advertise it to other servers.. I have spent half of salary for the server hosting instead of giving it to my wife for food. 1 usd = 43 Php. That's a big money already. Instead of saving that money for food or education of my son, all i did is to run a ragnarok server. All you're doing right now is destroying me, not my server. It hurts me so much.

Maybe hurting other people makes you happy. May the Almighty God Bless you for that.

LemonCrosswalk

So wait, you're not letting your wife buy food or pay for your son's education because you're paying for an RO server? What does that have to do with "someone" spamming advertisements on other servers?  When advertising happens on other servers, it almost always has some involvement with the staff. They are either the ones doing it, or encouraging/bribing players to do so, so it only makes sense that people are blaming you.