VanhildRO - Never learn?

[Kensei]

So I just logged on and see there are tons of VanhildRO stuffs posted in short moment. I found those posts, you know, not nice to see. So let me list out what I found :

1. Advertising in more than one category

Mid-rate : http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/vanhild-ragnarok-online!-26025/msg153362/?boardseen#new
High-rate : http://forum.ratemyserver.net/high-rate/vanhild-ragnarok-online!-26026/msg162125/?boardseen#new

Why? It was advertised as 100x, it should belong to Mid-rate. They say it could float to 500x but does that mean it should be posted on 2 categories? Or you know, make extra advertisement spot?

2. Advertisers (admins maybe?) are reviewing their own server

Server review topic : http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-reviews/vanhild-ragnarok-online-26027/msg163638/#new

Look at poster. Then back at advertisement topic

Here's the advertisement topic :  http://forum.ratemyserver.net/mid-rates/vanhild-ragnarok-online!-26025/msg153362/?boardseen#new

I mean, really?

3. New accounts on review thread. Legit?

Server review topic : http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-reviews/vanhild-ragnarok-online-26027/msg163638/#new

Look at the people. Do those people seem like they're really reviewing? I see 3 accounts created this month with 1 post each account, and one account with 3 posts where his last post before this was like, 3 years ago?

4. Lots of posts in different subforums by advertiser

General Discussion : http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-discussion/challenging-quest!-26029/msg163619/#msg163619

Edit : FFFFFUUUUU Triper Junked the rest, but let's assume other topics he made are in.

Does those posts look any different than advertisement? You're welcome


5. Vanhild has been delisted before

Topic I dug :

http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-discussion/reopened-server-after-banned/msg141572/#msg141572
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/server-reports/gm%27s-are-giving-out-rewards-for-players-to-make-them-a-review/
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/vanhildro-copying-intensero/msg134964/#msg134964

Those are maybe short compared to Cookie's cases we had lately. But those should be enough to tell why Vanhild was delisted/banned. Now they're coming again, with this kind of approach.

Discuss.

EXTRA SESSIONS! PIC INCLUDED BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS LIKE PICS!

For the accounts. It's not Hoax. you can see multiple with single post but they are already in RMS long time ago.

I HAD to do extra work to reply this comment alone, so there you go :





Tell me how should I believe your statement. Ok it might not be your accounts, but the intention? I think it's clear enough. Also, the reviews don't fulfill the guidelines.

The most believe-able account would be this :


Then we see his posts


Last post : 3 years ago
Quality of posts : Do I even have to say it?

Last but not least, see no.2.

This server is opened 3 days ago, and the server is great. Some of this account are new, but it doesn't mean that they are using new account just to comment here. The new server have a lot to offer, I'm a player of this server too, but I did not received any Item from a GM, I even helped them advertise in the Server Seeking Section just to invite more players. The GM earlier announced that we have an RMS Ad, which it led us here.

You know, you just made me do lots of unnecessary work such as stalking one of my friend's FB.

First, let's see when are you actually founded. 3 days ago? Okay let's see when your FB page is founded because I think this is your main way to share information



Okay, 7 July, around a month. I won't dig all your posts because you do post alot there. I assume July is the start of your beta phase or anything just like the 'old' VanhildRO.

Now you tell me what is this?



OMGWTFBBQ WHY YOUR PAGE POPPED ON MY FRIEND'S LIKES LIST IN 2011? AND ITS THE SAME PAGE AS CURRENT VANHILD? WTF IS THIS SORCERY?

"Old" VanhildRO, "New" VanhildRO. Whatchu say? Are you going to pop the argument "We're using same server name so we'll use that page instead"?

Busted son.

[Triper]

According yC, the accounts don't have the same IP.

Moved the urls in the topic to the junkyard instead of being at the "recycle bin" so everybody can see them.
==edit==
Quick Note: It seems that you need to regist an account to see them, guests can't see them.

[Kensei]

No reply from any Vanhild people? Oh come on, you came in swarm before I came and posted stuffs on your topic. Where are you people when your server is put at stake?

Also, don't you think Vanhild at least deserve perma-delist / ban for their action again?

[mpl123]

Ohhh.. Well, That escalated quickly. What just happened was a group of friends who are playing in one server, trying to find other players to join their current server, posting in one topic, then you came up with the history of VanhildRO? 

[Kensei]

Ohhh.. Well, That escalated quickly. What just happened was a group of friends who are playing in one server, trying to find other players to join their current server, posting in one topic, then you came up with the history of VanhildRO? 

First, you did not answer my question (or the topic) at all.

Second, I could care less if you're bunch of friends or whatever. But your reviews did not meet the guidelines and looked more like spam reviews. Why? Stereotypical lazy posts that came up in a short moment.

Third, for seems to be new server, how do you know that there's a case where GMs gave items for RMS review? I thought this Vanhild is a whole new server? Heheheee...

All your actions are closer to making Vanhild put into Hall of Shame. You guys had bad reputation before, then do you really think coming up after 2 years of missing, people won't notify you? Call your admins, let's see how they can justify their actions and clean the server's bad reputation.

[SnowBunny]

This server has been up and down the listings a lot. Might or might not be the same owner but, it's Vanhild alright. Lol.

[Kensei]

Might or might not be the same owner but, it's Vanhild alright. Lol.

Why it's using the same Vanhild FB page? Don't make me dunk you, girl. ( a dunkful of love, don't worry )

Also I still have my trump cards. I'm just waiting for Vanhild people to reply before showing them

[SnowBunny]

Well having the same Facebook page might not mean it's the same owner.. I think.. Lol.. I mean like, it might be passed down failure to failure from the previous owner to the next.. Tho generally you're kinda right and it might be the same person.. Lawl..

[Kensei]

Last picture showed the VanhildRO page that my friend liked back in 2011 linked me to current VanhildRO page.

I have no idea how they changed the date founded but basically it's the same page as old VanhildRO.

Also, why would you pass the page to another person? I find that reasoning, weird..

[Inochi]

I am not affiliated with VanRO or whatever at all but did you actually take the time to do all of this

for what

like why


and who cares

[Kensei]

I am not affiliated with VanRO or whatever at all but did you actually take the time to do all of this

for what

like why


and who cares

You don't need to say it, because one second after I posted this topic, I already regretted my action.

Why would I go this far? It's not like it's going to be entertaining or any actions will be taken..

FML

[djmikolo]

when we played we thought its a good server (it does) but the main problem is the GM i think.

I said this because today we started the first WOE.. there is no GM online or maybe 1 GM is online but busy HELPING ONE PLAYER to finish the seal. its impossible for a new server with a not fully geared char. to finish a seal ALONE..

Back to the WOE, its the first so there is no agit owner but when the war started one guild already have the agit without even breaking. the other GM's probably playing its own normal char. with their friends so they can secure the agit. after the WAR has ended all the so called GM came out.

to the GM of vanhild make it fair so you're server will last. 

[nejiken13]

saw this picture on forum.ratemyserver. so disappointing. First of all, This is an hour after woe reaction of a losing guild.

[GM Loki] GM team of this server has its own designations. During WoE, GM Keichi was attending (WWWW) regarding break the seal. How sure are you that it is impossible to finish the "Break the Seal Alone?" were you already inside the room? As a matter of fact, WWWW was the first to be there(an hour ago)? and also, there are no other players who quested to break the seal. so what's your reference in saying that it is impossible to finish the seal alone when you yourself wasn't able to see the room yet?

Next is regarding the WoE, if you're playing Ragnarok Online for years now, you'll know that each and everytime a server opens, all castle's emperium are still there and free to break. It's just that "BSB" were able to notice it and was more prepared than you guys.

Lastly, regarding your statement "GM's probably playing its own normal char with their friends so they can secure the agit." Why the effin hell will we put ourselves in an uncomfortable situation? why will we take the risk of putting our extensive efforts on doing those quest and re-building up the server? for just an agit?

Come on! Be Logical man, and get your facts straight before crying in the forums!

[nejiken13]

No reply from any Vanhild people? Oh come on, you came in swarm before I came and posted stuffs on your topic. Where are you people when your server is put at stake?

Also, don't you think Vanhild at least deserve perma-delist / ban for their action again?

First of all, like a StarCraft2 player on a Dota 2 forum we are not that active in this platform so don't you screw us with this stuffs.

Second is, we've already explained in other threads and did say that the Vanhild Ragnarok way back in 2010 was destroyed not because of the owner but because of the GM we hired. As a matter of fact, VanhildRO 2010 was admired by players because of its community, our only fault was I am scheduled to take my board and did hire a GM who i thought I know.

Now, that I have the time again I settle in re-building the server using the same Facebook page and other means of communication. With regrads to the RMS review, Me and my team are also clueless about it. as i've told you earlier we are not that active in such advertising platforms.

[Bue]

Has there ever been a thread where the accused would take whatever responsibility in association with his/her server? And apologize, regardless right or wrong?

I heard this is a pretty good idea.

Or is it the case that leaders should always feign ignorance and mediate the blame.

Also play that trump card.