TalonRO Bad GMS

Started by ardels, Jan 28, 2019, 05:02 AM

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ardels

Quote from: live4lie on Jan 29, 2019, 12:46 AM
Mod please move this thread to Rant and Rave, this ain't a review, this is another crybaby screaming for attention after getting banned for breaking the rules.

Also please delete Lai's posts, unnecessary donkey kissing comments in every single drama threads in this forum.

the owner replied to my review and I have a right to expose them. in fact the review site says to take it to the forums to write a lenghty review seeing as there no option to reply.

ardels

I'm on back on a computer. This is for you Dee. https://imgur.com/a/DTYvOZE

If you look at my OP post and the picture of the convo he himself posted (https://imgur.com/a/nqHT5jX), everything aligns with what I said in OP post. I have not told ONE lie about what is going on.

Facts:
1: I was banned for 1 reply and not told or explained as to why I was banned.

2: Despite the slanders and lies you guys have tried to put in my mouth (saying I "claimed" which implies I'm lying), I never said I didn't know about the other account, It's stated as to why that is multiple times on OP post and other posts. I said it's very possible I may have made more than 1 forum account due to reasons in op.

3: You did not offer to help, in fact the reply by the owner claims to reach out to the team to "reconcile" but that did not happen did it? The whole convo is 1 reply from each side as seen on above link. After that I was banned. GM reply on ratemyserver review. "We're sorry to hear about your experience, however our rules are very clear about multiple accounts as it pertains to gameplay. We quite simply would not ban someone based on their having an older prior account that went unused, but would rather work with you to reconcile the issue. We do apply our rules fairly and consistently across the board, and appreciate the vast majority of community members who observe these rules to create a fun and equitable experience for all. Thanks for your review." I reached out FYI

4: I clearly state I don't care that you banned me but you brought that up yet again not paying attention. This WHOLE post was made because the owner replied to the review acting like he was fair and professional and offered to reconcile which did not happen. Let's be honest every GM is gonna make themselves look good and professional to not scare away new players. I repeat this whole post is about the reply I got on ratemyserver painting themselves like they acted professionally and helped. that is my issue, the blatant lie.

5: Dee, you have on sided discussions you completely ignore what I say and focus on the dumbest thing of them all. (you trying to say you weren't rude etc) It's quite hilarious actually. Ironically enough you are showing you are not fair by editing the original convo and not listening to the other person when I'm listening to you. Please learn to have a proper discussion as it is frustrating repeating myself over and over and pointing out stuff you missed. Seriously, either be fair when discussing or don't post at all. If you are not replying to my questions/points but I'm replying to yours then please don't post in my thread again.

6: You denied me from viewing the original ticket so that I couldn't post the original myself. In fact I was able to view it right before this thread took off and right after that other poster asked me for proof. Just a coincidence. The mistake here is mines for not thinking you guys would stoop that low, lesson learned. Always screenshot if you're reading this!

7: Patterns: There are other posts with similar reasons as to why other people were banned, due to multiple forum accounts or just threads discussing about the way Boreas handle things badly and unprofessionally. They also go into detail about Boreas attitude, even good reviews they warn not to get on his bad side. Just a coincidence huh. Keep in mind these do not include the threads on talon but on other forums. As I'm sure naturally he silences most on his forum.

8: They still have not posted proof about the multiple forum accounts being used or signing in, whatever the hell you were saying. I would like to know what their definition of "used" is as I know they will say something that contradicts Boreas when he said he wouldn't ban for "unused accounts"

My guess is Boreas did not think I would post this on the forums and thought I would just stay quiet as probably many do. As he saw what was happening that's when damage control started.

ardels

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Completely absurd of how this situation was handled.  To add to that people at talon use multiple accounts, I saw them all the time yet those people are playing lol. This is what should have been said had they had any manners/empathy towards a new player.

"Hello we noticed that 2 accounts were under your name/etc, I would like to mention that it is strictly prohibited and would like to ask you to take care of that before you donate. If you need any help we can assist" Which I would then ask for them to delete whatever account was not being used. BOOM problem solved.

Staff Edit: Removed quote and reference to off-topic deleted post.

Hakk

Quote from: ardels on Jan 29, 2019, 06:53 AM
To add to that people at talon use multiple accounts, I saw them all the time yet those people are playing lol.

You do realise that in-game accounts are different than forum/master account right? The rule stated You may only create ONE forum account per person. You broke the rule, you get banned. Simple as that.  /ok

ardels

Quote from: Hakk on Jan 29, 2019, 08:26 PM
You do realise that in-game accounts are different than forum/master account right? The rule stated You may only create ONE forum account per person. You broke the rule, you get banned. Simple as that.  /ok

Thanks for the reply but please read so you know that I'm talking about the the owners reply to my review on the reviewsite (the reply on ratemyserver not these forums) :). I have no problem with the ban, just the deceitful reply that would mislead other new players. It was even stated in OP post. I have to keep repeating myself, it's insane at this point. Let this thread die, Ive already asked for this to be locked considering none of you read.

Lai

This should be put on Hall of Shame, for having such a ridiculous rule for a server.

One forum account per person, LOL...  how are you gonna control that?
This is such an unfair rule for people who can avoid being detected by using VPN, MAC change, etc tools...
Imagine the unfairness, when people who have good knowledge in PC, can simply avoid this and take advantage of multi accounts, while others who are not so good with PC, can't...

In fact, I tested and created 4 forum accounts with random IPs etc and accessed thru my different PCs ~~
Still not banned ;D


To those 2-3 who oppose the OP, are you guys blind?
The point of this is a review of how the server administration handles the situation, of a new player and avoid a direct question.

From "Why is my donation review declined?" to a total 360 u turned Re-Question wtih "Why do you have 2 forum accounts?".............

Like wtf?
Why even check someones ancient old forum account and not answer his fking question???
Where is the logic??? ;DD

Another point is how the responses turned out in RMS....instead of admitting and appologize,
the admin choosed to edit the reply of the OP and also to throw dirt on me for giving good advice...

roflmao roflmao ~~


What a shame...

NovaRagnarok

Quote from: Lai on Jan 30, 2019, 03:57 AM

From "Why is my donation review declined?" to a total 360 u turned Re-Question wtih "Why do you have 2 forum accounts?".............

Like wtf?
Why even check someones ancient old forum account and not answer his fking question???

Are you honestly asking why the administration of a server is questioning a player about rule-breaking instead of offering support?

Let's do a quick scenario:
A player PM's me on the forums, and he informs me that he is botting on my server but is running into an issue where he believes the drop rate of an item is wrong, based on how many items he's gotten after farming for a few hours.

Botting is against the rules in my server, and results in a permanent ban.
Do you expect me to try to assure the player that the rates are accurate?
I don't see the point in offering support to a player that is about to be permanently banned for breaking the rules.

You get into the argument of whether the rule is fair or not, that's a whole separate topic I'm not going to touch on. The point is, regardless of your feelings on this or any other rule, you and every player had an opportunity to read them before joining the server (not only that, you had to click on a checkmark claiming you did in fact read them to be able to register), and decide if you felt the rules were fair. If you felt they weren't fair, you had the option of not playing on that server. If you decided not to read the rules, that's on you, not the administration.

Lai, your obvious desperate attempts at sniping players off of drama threads for other servers are getting tiresome. Don't you feel any shame? Have some dignity man.

DeePee

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Quote from: Hakk on Jan 30, 2019, 09:20 PM
Oh gosh I wonder why they don't like you.  /heh /heh LMAO Hall of Shame just because they set the rules for their OWN server? Like seriously? Are you sure you're a GM of a server? Because this is probably the most retarded post I've ever seen in RMS /heh /heh

About sums it up, yeah.

Let's all take lessons from the GM who:

  • Doesn't make daily backups and actually PMed me here on RMS asking how to make backups after he messed up his server and didn't have a backup newer than 6 days ago.
  • Is one of the most-reported GM to be in the Hall of Shame
  • Uses bots to shamelessly promote his server

Quote from: NovaRagnarok on Jan 30, 2019, 10:33 PM
Don't you feel any shame? Have some dignity man.

I think we have come to the conclusion that he does not have said dignity many years ago, haha. Personally I don't mind that too much to be honest. If all the rule breakers and trolls gather together on his server then we don't have to deal with them, yeah? :)

Also, a small lesson to some of the people here who don't have the mental capacity of comprehending why more than one forum/master account is not allowed:

  • Despite voting sites being kind of silly, tRO does have a Vote For Points system. The cooldown to this is bound to your forum account for instance. Having multiple forum accounts allows one to vote multiple times despite the cooldown.
  • Various in-game quests and instances have a master account-bound cooldown. It is a better system than an IP cooldown as it allows family members to play games/instances together despite being on the same internet connection. Having multiple forum accounts allows one to circumvent these cooldowns.

Like/dislike it all you want, but it is the very first rule on our rules page. It is printed in bold and you are required to confirm that you have read these rules upon creating an account.

Lai

DeePee, who hasnt' asked a question or two in life?

You asked me long time ago, how I was being able to setup the Vote Bots, and I told you.
And now, that tRO is using the vote bots, and defaming me for admitting? O.o
Altho, we no longer uses vote bots anymore ^^ But tRO is still using them ^^

I'm one of the most reported GM/Admin to be in Hall of Shame, and then?
Am I not allowed to speak in the rest of my life? ;D
You jailed me like Boreas did? ;DD

About the 1 forum account rule, like I said, it's easily abused and I still have my 4 forum accounts in tRO active, yet not banned ~~
But, that's not in this topic, appologies for bringing that up, I was naive to give some honest advice and tips to improve tRO.
I take all these tips back, and feel free to do what you like to do ~~


nRO, come on man.
The OP did not even know he had an old forum account in the first place, he never said "Hey Boreas, I have 2 forum accounts, ban me." (I was botting).
He simply asked a sincere question, in good manners.
Boreas could at least answer his questions and then state:

QuoteHey buddy,
The donation attempt was bla bla bla...therfore bla bla bla.

PS. Did you know that you have 2 forum accounts?
I think you probably created a very old one and forgot about it.
In our server, we have this 1 forum account rule.
Please reply to me, how we can solve this:

Alternative. I can lock one of your accounts.


There you go tRO, another advice from me <3

I still stand for the person who opened the review and I'm not deperate for sniping etc, wtf, many in RMS community dislikes me and I have no plans to make them come to LRO.
I mean everyone knows pretty much by now that there's LRO.

Peace and love ~~

yennar

QuotenRO, come on man.
The OP did not even know he had an old forum account in the first place, he never said "Hey Boreas, I have 2 forum accounts, ban me."

Can you even read?

QuoteYou claimed that you didn't know of any other forum account when you in fact logged on it a couple of minutes before creating a new forum account.


the creator of this thread said himself: it's not about some tipps/rulebreaking for one of the most successful RO servers, it's about the correctness of his answer. He said he was fine with the ban itself.
So for this topic: The answer which the GM gave was strict, but correct.
Strictness is nothing bad, it's what most servers are missing. Toxic players are a big problem in the RO community and they can and will kill your server. As a server owner you should know that yourself.

QuoteAbout the 1 forum account rule, like I said, it's easily abused and I still have my 4 forum accounts in tRO active, yet not banned ~~
It surely is possible to counter the security system easily.
But how long can you use all 4 forum accounts ingame for your benefit without getting a ban, risking everything you worked for?
If you don't get caught, the security system is not up to par. If you get caught, it works as intended. You can try it out and report back here if you're bored.

Ariasqt

At this point Im convinced Lai is just a bad troll because you simply cant be that autistic

DeePee

Quote from: Lai on Jan 31, 2019, 05:45 AM
DeePee, who hasnt' asked a question or two in life?

Asking questions is fine. However, telling other people how to run their server when you cannot even run your own properly is kind of hypocritical, don't you think?

Quote from: Lai on Jan 31, 2019, 05:45 AM
You asked me long time ago, how I was being able to setup the Vote Bots, and I told you.
And now, that tRO is using the vote bots, and defaming me for admitting? O.o
Altho, we no longer uses vote bots anymore ^^ But tRO is still using them ^^

We have never used voting bots, nor have I ever asked you how to set them up. If ever I'd be more than capable enough to find that out myself. Please provide evidence of me ever asking you.

Quote from: Lai on Jan 31, 2019, 05:45 AM
About the 1 forum account rule, like I said, it's easily abused and I still have my 4 forum accounts in tRO active, yet not banned ~~
But, that's not in this topic, appologies for bringing that up, I was naive to give some honest advice and tips to improve tRO.
I take all these tips back, and feel free to do what you like to do ~~

There is no need to give advice when you don't even know what you are talking about. You created four empty forum accounts and expect the same results as an actually active player? *facepalm*

Ara

Quote from: Lai on Jan 31, 2019, 05:45 AM

About the 1 forum account rule, like I said, it's easily abused and I still have my 4 forum accounts in tRO active, yet not banned ~~


Somehow, I feel like bragging about successfully breaking rules doesn't set a good example for your own players.

Lai

DeePee, suddenly it's ok to ask a question again...
and now I can't tell you how easily this rule is to break under your nose.

I have been claiming free vote points for few days straight now on all 4 accounts, created a fifth one today ~~
PS. free vote points without actually voting as well... pretty easy to penetrate your vote system :o


Also you call me hypocrit? :P That's pretty common word...
You ask me to give you "evidence", but it's ok for claiming things about me without evidence huh ~~

<3

Ara ~~
Come on, don't bent my words... no brags intended, simply stating the fact that it's easy abuseable :)
And as a warning to their admins about this, maybe it's about time to change it ^^

yC

I don't know if Lai is trying to help get a lock on this topic so desperately or Talon's side are doing it for the same purpose.

Well you got it, this topic becomes a GM vs GM thing now?  Locking this.  Moving to rank section.

To the OP, sorry to hear about your case.  You have to understand it is always other people's server and they have 100% authority in there.   Your account is under their platform / their property so nobody can argue with any decision made.  Thanks for sharing your story with us and let others know about your experience.  Wish you have a better journey in your next server.