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Title: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 02, 2019, 06:51 PM
Hello everyone. As a early player play novaro since 400 population mid 2015 till 2018.

ITS indeed P2W Server. Enriched ores and HD ores obtain true cash shop only wich is called Nova Point. End Game Headgears are cost 5000 cp - 7000 cp ( 5K cp = 5 US Dollar) per headgear. And u need refine them by +9 to get decent effect. End game costume same as well but u not get straight to the point. Need to buy Egg in cash shop and u get random costume when u consumed.

Nice Business. That how Capitalis works anyway.

About admin. Dont bother you approached him if you need help or opinion or suggestion etc. He will communicate with u with an arrogant, child attitute who always in denial.

IF U DO HONEST RMS REVIEW THAT APPEARED NEGATIVE TO HIM, HE WILL SAY THOSE ARE LIES.
i dont know what the problem he is always in denial but dont want to reflect as a positive remarks to improved the works.

Many Veteran Left. Event 2k population all new player that know nothing about end game content really are.
When u start the server all good and with time u realised how bad, monetary, capitalis, arrogant and no tolerant server and admin.

GM Tokei is good person as im communicate with him. Really guys with manner and explain in deepth n clear if something happened. Nova is lucky got such helper loyal till now. Pls be more appreciate.

Lastly Early game contain is good, But not end game contain. If u really wanna play, just go for casual just dont get into it, CANCER.

And update TOO fast. Its like u earn good End game weapon, the next day patched, the class got nerf. What your energy and time means by all that. That is wasted. You grind for your favourite class, and next week updated your class/item is useless. CONSTANT MAKING PROFIT OUT OF GAME CONTENT. CAPITALIS.

Wish you guy all the best.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 03:25 AM
To start, the great majority of our Random Headgear Boxes are purely cosmetic. The few that have effects are low-value, and the stats are not an attraction factor (think +1 agi, +2 vit hats). In the singular case where there was an item with a good refineable effect inside a random headgear box, we included an alternate method to obtain said headgear outside of the Nova Shop.

As for your argument that "end game headgear 1 pcs is 5k cp=5 dollar and u need to refine that to get op effect", this is simply not true. In fact, there are almost no end-game headgears in the Nova Shop (Cash Shop for people who don't play on NovaRO).

I also couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a mention of the alternate methods of obtaining Nova Points. You can obtain Nova Points by participating in events and logging on every day to earn Gold Coins, which you can then exchange into Nova Points. Not only that, but over 99% of the items in the Nova Shop are not bound, which means that even if you're a F2P player, you can simply purchase these items for zeny in the market.

A lot of players (both new and old) are having loads of fun on the server, and we're working very hard on bringing much more challenging end-game content by the middle of the year.
I know, a lot of people get upset when their classes and items get bug fixes, and maybe that just means the server isn't for you.
Some people would rather play on servers with no updates, and that's okay, I won't judge you for it. But to criticize the server for having constant bug fixes and implementations of new items is in my opinion, extremely unreasonable.
I've never claimed my server is perfect, but the great majority of the negative "feedback" on RMS is a direct result of something happening to the writer (usually a ban), which leads to a negative review in which they overly exaggerate real issues to put the server in a bad light.

The truth is, we have our flaws and we're working on them, but far too many of these reviews just straight up make up stories to make us look bad.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 06:46 AM
" the great majority of the negative "feedback" on RMS is a direct result of something happening to the writer (usually a ban)"

excuse me sir but that's a huge lie. One of the biggest issues o the server is your lack of self-criticism, which keeps it to improve in its negative aspects. Instead of accepting your mistakes and improving, you always try to deny everyone's opinion. So much so, that many people have left the server no because of the server issues, but because of the attitude of the GM. That's definitively something you must work on.

the truth is that the very great mayority of people commeting bad reviews, is people leaving because of the course the server is taking since 2018. I play nova since 2015, and the server definitively is not what it was.

Those are literal words of munbalance, the greatest sponsor of the server: "Nova has gotten progressively more grindy and RNG focused since I've joined back in 2014. It really isn't the server I fell in love with anymore. There's no hard feelings though, I still plan to play Nova but I was really getting sick of everything moving a snails pace. Other servers are passing them by when they used to lead the charge and they almost seem afraid to push progression forward recently, to the point of customizing items and making them weaker (Really not a fan of this as it makes it very hard to make my content approachable to players of other servers.)."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6twkVroNo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6twkVroNo)




As for my personal case, I play nova since 2015, and the server has changed a lot for bad. level of grindiness and customization of the last updates is in a totally different level now, with bio 5 and the new gold coins being some examples of this, and everyone knows that this is to please your Goose of the golden eggs

Everyone knows who i'm talking about, billionarie donator who got crushed by Royale on PVP so he used his influences to fix Cicada shed for personal benefit. Guy who insults people and never gets ban.

Everyone knows that the undeniably majority of the server is in favor of easing bio 5, and against unnecessary customizations as removing fixed cast time from Gold coin hats (those hats were the reason why so many guilds left during the last months)

But of course, the opinion of 1 big donator is more important than the one of 1999 players, so you need to please him or you may lose them. Nova RO is taking a sad course.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 07:38 AM
Like I said, wild stories. You're literally asking us for more customization and criticizing us for customizing things in the same sentence, and then you make up claims about some mysterious donator somehow calling the shots on bug fixes. The bug tracker is there for all to see and contribute to.

I've never heard of a billionaire donator with influence who got crushed in PvP, nor have I ever cared about any players' status as a donator, much less so as a PvPer. Please stop spreading lies. Your calling Munbalance "the greatest sponsor of the server" alone shows how little you know.

As for your not enjoying the server anymore, I can respect and accept that and I'm sorry you feel that way, but please stop spreading false rumors. Our vision and decision making has never and will never be affected by the wants and desires of donators. If you have ideas you wish to propose, the suggestion forums are also open to all players.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 08:00 AM
Nova pls, false rumors, such an arrogant declaration... "everyone is wrong but me, what you say is a lie, even if that's what the whole server thinks" Like i said, lack of self-criticism.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 08:04 AM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 08:00 AM
Nova pls, false rumors, such an arrogant declaration... "everyone is wrong but me, what you say is a lie, even if that's what the whole server thinks" Like i said, lack of self-criticism

Thank you for proving my point. Nowhere in what I said did I claim everyone but me is wrong, I only directly called out the sections that I know for a fact are incorrect, and from that you end up attributing quotes to me. And then you have the gall to assume what  "the entire server" thinks. Like said, made up stories.

I make mistakes all the time, that's why I rely on the entirety of my GM team when making important decisions, not just my impulses. Not only that, but we're more than comfortable reverting decisions when we realize they were misguided or ineffective. Why you're trying to say otherwise is beyond me.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 08:33 AM
I don't know Nova, is he really that bad? I love drama and I follow it anywhere, but all I'm hearing are stupid stories and nobody has ever shown me anything bad that he's done so far. From an outsider point of view, I have to agree with his own statement that it comes from angry banned players. Trust me, I'd love to believe otherwise, but nobody has shown us on RMS anything so far.

"Admin disagrees with my opinion = I'm offended and I leave the server", that's just messed up, like... what the f*** LOL. Grow some balls and man up, jesus.

QuoteAnd update TOO fast. Its like u earn good End game weapon, the next day patched, the class got nerf.
Is it too fast or too slow? Choose one.

Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 06:46 AM
Everyone knows who i'm talking about, billionarie donator who got crushed by Royale on PVP so he used his influences to fix Cicada shed for personal benefit. Guy who insults people and never gets ban.

Everyone knows that the undeniably majority of the server is in favor of easing bio 5, and against unnecessary customizations as removing fixed cast time from Gold coin hats (those hats were the reason why so many guilds left during the last months)

But of course, the opinion of 1 big donator is more important than the one of 1999 players, so you need to please him or you may lose them. Nova RO is taking a sad course.

Those are bold statements dude. Unless you have proof, I'm calling you a liar straight away lol. Which makes me think everything else you've said so far is also a lie, so you're either as dumb as they get or... a banned player, as Nova said. It can't be both. Prove what you just said or stfu and don't ever speak on this forum ever again.

Edit: ^ Sorry if you think that last part is harsh, but when someone throws these kind of accusations without any proof, you just know it's when they lose all their credibility and they never had any to begin with. If you have any screenshots, surprise me. But my instinct tells me I'm right on that whole part.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 08:58 AM
I don't know Nova, is he really that bad? I love drama and I follow it anywhere, but all I'm hearing are stupid stories and nobody has ever shown me anything bad that he's done so far. From an outsider point of view, I have to agree with his own statement that it comes from angry banned players. Trust me, I'd love to believe otherwise, but nobody has shown us on RMS anything so far.

"Admin disagrees with my opinion = I'm offended and I leave the server", that's just messed up, like... what the f*** LOL. Grow some balls and man up, jesus.




No need to follow this drama, and we as nova players no need outsider point of view as u never been in server. Observer is adequate Thanks.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 09:06 AM
Excuse me but i'm not banned player, i never even recieved a single warning in my whole time playing Nova. 7+ guilds moved so saying someone who left is a banned player is a lack of respect

And there's proof, literally all pvp roomers watched that this donator was owned several times on GTB ninja by royale's genetic and ranger. And inmidiatly after that,  Cicada Shed recieved a fix that made it block hell plant and ranger bomb. Coinsidence? I don't think so

This donator is also the only person on the server that supports our bio 5's level of grindiness and unnecessary fixes over the gold coin hats. You can ask on any chat related to the server to confirm.

Just ask anyone who plays there. If you believed it or not, is up to you, but first inform yourself before calling people liar
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 09:10 AM
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 08:58 AM
No need to follow this drama, and we as nova players no need outsider point of view as u never been in server. Observer is adequate Thanks.

What the... ah? Why are you posting on RMS again...? I thought it was to inform other people, like me, about the server. It's what the website is literally made for. This is not about telling NovaRO's own players what they supposedly already know. What kind of logic is this.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 09:16 AM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 09:06 AM
Excuse me but i'm not banned player, i never even recieved a single warning in my whole time playing Nova. 7+ guilds moved so saying someone who left is a banned player is a lack of respect

And there's proof, literally all pvp roomers watched that this donator was owned several times on GTB ninja by royale's genetic and ranger. And inmidiatly after that,  Cicada Shed recieved a fix that made it block hell plant and ranger bomb. Coinsidence? I don't think so

This donator is also the only person on the server that supports our bio 5's level of grindiness and unnecessary fixes over the gold coin hats. You can ask on any chat related to the server to confirm.

Just ask anyone who plays there. If you believed it or not, is up to you, but first inform yourself before calling people liar

I'm sorry but you're the one who's throwing these accusations about a corrupt GM who favors a big donator. You are the one who has to provide proof of what you say, not the other way around. Otherwise I stand by my statement, you're a liar. Prove what you say, or... again, just stop lol.

Man, seriously though, what's wrong with both of you. Have you never been in the real world? How do you not know such basic concepts? This is getting hilarious. Do you take RMS people for retards? Do you really think we'll fall for that s***?

Edit:
You make a statement > you support your claim with evidence. The most rudimentary art of argumentation. Otherwise it's called propaganda and you're just labeled as someone trying to damage the server. I can't trust anything you say already.

You may be right, it's possible Nova does that, but unless you have proof I mean... whatever you're saying can't be taken seriously. Try to understand that. That story alone would be much more interesting than the initial thread. Yet nobody has ever made a thread about it, I'm sorry but you're lying. Or you were fed up crap from rumors and you took it as truth, and that would make you a sheep. It shouldn't be hard to prove something like that in the first place if it really happened.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 09:51 AM
The proofs are there, if you don't wanna check and still stubbonrly saying that facts are lies, the one who have a problem is you. Those are honest reviews from old players, I played nova for over 3 years so i know what i'm talking about, much more than a random that's not even willing to enter nova chats to confirm

With that will to inform yourself your opinion means nothing, so please shut up and stop your out of place statements, thanks you
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:06 AM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 08:33 AM

Grow some balls and man up, jesus.

I'm not a man.


Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 08:33 AMIs it too fast or too slow? Choose one.

I think he meant that the skill fixes are too fast, something everyone agrees too. Cause we get nerfs to many jobs as Genetic, that ends of making them useless

Nova get those fixes to emulate KRO, but in KRO they have a lot more gear (and is not nerfed) so jobs still being useful after the fixes... In nova they die

Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 10:16 AM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 09:51 AM
The proofs are there, if you don't wanna check and still stubbonrly saying that facts are lies, the one who have a problem is you. Those are honest reviews from old players, I played nova for over 3 years so i know what i'm talking about, much more than a random that's not even willing to enter nova chats to confirm

With that will to inform yourself your opinion means nothing, so please shut up and stop your out of place statements, thanks you
No. You made the accusations, you give the proof. You have to understand that it's very easy to say s*** and saying GM Nova is bias and corrupt, but unless you've got proofs how the hell do you expect others to believe you? Judging from your replies, you don't have any. You're just making stuff up and accepting whatever others are telling you. Like I said:
Give me the proof, or you're a liar.

That simple. If you're saying it's obvious, you, the one accusing, should be able to provide that easily, right? Yet you're struggling, trying to insult me, trying some weird logic, pointing at imaginary proofs, and so on. So excuse me for being cautious, but it's expected lol.

Edit:
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:06 AM
I think he meant that the skill fixes are too fast, something everyone agrees too. Cause we get nerfs to many jobs as Genetic, making them useless

Nova get those fixes to emulate KRO, but in KRO they have a lot more gear (and is not nerfed) so jobs still being useful after the fixes... In nova they die

I have never heard of players complaining about fixing too many bugs too fast before, it's a first for me. It's usually the other way around. Be happy you get bug fixes, be proud of that. You have a twisted mind. You're legit complaining about a server being too good at fixing bugs. ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Lai on Jan 03, 2019, 10:27 AM
Potatoes,
switch out all "nova" words with "Lai".

And then give it another try and reply.


but then again, I'm sure this server is great server.
They have great people and good team!

Those who are mad at it are just loserssss! Leave the server alone! Move on please!
There are so many other servers out there, that you can try.

If you don't like, then leave!  /lv /lv /lv /lv
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 10:34 AM
Quote from: Lai on Jan 03, 2019, 10:27 AM
Potatoes,
switch out all "nova" words with "Lai".

And then give it another try and reply.


but then again, I'm sure this server is great server.
They have great people and good team!

Those who are mad at it are just loserssss! Leave the server alone! Move on please!
There are so many other servers out there, that you can try.

If you don't like, then leave!  /lv /lv /lv /lv

I'd install NovaRO to check, but that would be kinda tedious. I don't get why I'd have to be the one going out of my way to confirm this. From what I'm gathering on their Discord though, they really do mostly have costumes in their cash shop. They sell enriched and HD materials, but they don't actually have p2w gears in there other than "Oni horns" that apparently was made useless after fixing a bug. It seems like another far fetched lie that was made bigger than it really is. Judging from these two clowns up there, that seems to be the case lol. It's hard to confirm this, nobody is giving any proof of their claims though so by these standards, I'm right "because I said so" lol.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:47 AM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 10:16 AM

Give me the proof, or you're a liar.
While i have a couple of screenshots, no person in this world would be proving anything to  such an irrelevant random with such a bad attitude

Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 10:16 AMI'm right "because I said so" lol.

Funny that you say that, when you're arguing against what a lot of people thinks, even when some guilds even left the server for it. But yeah what you say must be truth....

Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 10:16 AM
Edit:
I have never heard of players complaining about fixing too many bugs too fast before, it's a first for me. It's usually the other way around. Be happy you get bug fixes, be proud of that. You have a twisted mind. You're legit complaining about a server being too good at fixing bugs. ? ? ? ?

No, that's a totally lack of reading comprehension, we are complaining about not having decent enough gears to go along with the fixes.


Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 11:20 AM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:47 AM
While i have a couple of screenshots, no person in this world would be proving anything to  such an irrelevant random with such a bad attitude
Yeah I call s*** on that. Nobody would be stupid enough to not give such proof that would damage the server to a point of no return. If you had those, you would have shared them ages ago. Stop pretending, you don't have any and we all know it lol. You're as stupid as they get. I'll say it again for you:
Give me the proof, or you're a liar.

QuoteI'm right "because I said so" lol.
Funny that you say that, when you're arguing against what a lot of people thinks, even when some guilds even left the server for it. But yeah what you say must be truth....
Dudeeeeeee, come on lol. That was sarcasm. I even put it in quotes to make it obvious. I was making fun of you for throwing these stupid claims without proof, and saying the same thing as you did to make you realize what you sounded like. It's meant to highlight what you do...

This is really awkward.

QuoteAnd update TOO fast.
QuoteNo, that's a totally lack of reading comprehension, we are complaining about not having decent enough gears to go along with the fixes.
Then it's a writing skill issue along with a mentality issue. You're complaining about the updates [which bring you gears] being too fast and then not having enough gears. That's poor phrasing. What you meant to say was:
There aren't enough gears for your character build.

Now that is a fair complaint [it's not but whatever]. But what you can't do is complain about them fixing bugs, that's just ignorant and silly. Fixing bugs is a good thing and is what everyone, on any server out there, both private and official, wants. How crazy do you have to be to start thinking bug fixes are bad, I've never seen that before.

"we are complaining about not having decent enough gears to go along with the fixes"
Just stop. Fixes are not related to your gears. You may think they do, but that's a messed up mentality. Those are two distinct concepts that should not be taken into account when fixing a bug in the game. Ever. Imagine if a server started keeping bugs because their players liked them, like holy s*** lol.

You want to start changing your way of thinking dude. It's just so wrong.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Fu Wind on Jan 03, 2019, 11:27 AM
Hi, i don't think that Nova is a bad person (he's just a little grumpy).

And I don't know how was the server before i came to it on January 2018. When i came i considered it very great server. But i really don't like how they implemented Biolab 5 (is not according to a 25x or 10x server) and also disliked how they added unnecessary custom fixes to Temporal Manteau and Amistr Beret, that i waited for so long.
/sob

I still thinking is a great server, mostly because of its fast updates, its population and the people i met here.  I love this server and i'm willing to stay and watch  it grow.  /no1

But at least i can confirm that it is a very spreaded rumor among the community, that this guy called "the donator" (Arias) has a very strong and bad influence on the server.


(https://i.imgur.com/aEh77Fm.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NKNiRb8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KRPbaOe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1Wnk1El.jpg)


Not saying that i actually agree or disagree with those rumors, is just what people says. Those screenshots were provided by someone who's often on PVP, about two people randomly talking.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 11:36 AM
I have never heard of players complaining about fixing too many bugs too fast before, it's a first for me. It's usually the other way around. Be happy you get bug fixes, be proud of that. You have a twisted mind. You're legit complaining about a server being too good at fixing bugs. ? ? ? ?



LOL its not bug fixed as Nova stated, that why you know nothing if you dont play. Its nerf becoz of people complained. U already got tricked by Nova hahaha. Good luck
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 11:38 AM
Quote from: Fu Wind on Jan 03, 2019, 11:27 AM
But at least i can confirm that it is a very spreaded rumor among the community, that this guy called "the donator" (Arias) has a very strong and bad influence on the server.

These screenshots are yet again the same as what you all do: say whatever you want and make it sound as proof. Fu Wind, an opinion is not a proof. The guy in the screenshot could be AyleenDancer fo all I know. You have to show me that Nova customized a skill to help this guy.

My understanding from reading these is that bugs were fixed that indirectly helped Arias.

But other than that, I'm not seeing any corruption and bias in those screenshots. The claim was:

Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 06:46 AM
Everyone knows who i'm talking about, billionarie donator who got crushed by Royale on PVP so he used his influences to fix Cicada shed for personal benefit.

Edit:
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 11:36 AM
LOL its not bug fixed as Nova stated, that why you know nothing if you dont play. Its nerf becoz of people complained. U already got tricked by Nova hahaha. Good luck
No idea what that means, but ok!
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Fu Wind on Jan 03, 2019, 11:53 AM
I repeat myself:
"at least i can confirm that it is a very spreaded rumor among the community, that this guy called "the donator" (Arias) has a very strong and bad influence on the server."

Not saying that i actually agree or disagree with those rumors, is just repeat what people says.
That's information without making judgments, everyone is free to draw their own conclusions.

Oh, I can also confirm a very great majority of people is dissatisfied with our Bio5 system and the GC hat fixes, while Arias is one of the few in favor, and has openly defended them against everyone, which may be causing more suspects from people.

Thanks you  /no1
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: OXDhatesmagick on Jan 03, 2019, 12:06 PM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 06:46 AMEveryone knows who i'm talking about, billionarie donator who got crushed by Royale on PVP so he used his influences to fix Cicada shed for personal benefit. Guy who insults people and never gets ban.

But it's a bug and that's literally result of a bug being fixed? Anyone can make a bug report.  Just because Arias happens to report a bug that buffs his class, doesn't mean it's a bad thing? Or you're saying bugs should stay the way they are and enjoy ourselves playing on a bugged server.

Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:47 AM
While i have a couple of screenshots, no person in this world would be proving anything to  such an irrelevant random with such a bad attitude

WTF man, if I were an outsider I'd want screenshots too. I am certain Potatoes is not the only outsider that's watching this thread. You are not proving it to him, you are proving it to everyone else.

Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 10:47 AMyou gotta learn to shut up when you don't know what you're talking about

Provides 0 proof then calls out people for not knowing the truth? Excuse me LOL.



I can relate to some points given by the OP as a player of NovaRO myself, but damn guys, provide proofs. At this point you're only making yourselves look bad.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Ariasqt on Jan 03, 2019, 12:07 PM
After being told by several ppl about the stuff going on here I decided to give some input as well /no1

1. This "owning/crushing" thing people are talking about never happened (but let's pretend it did for the trash talkers sake). Its pvp room, irrelevant. I'm going in there for fun do some 1 v X sometimes die to ppl sometimes kill them have some petty PvP banter in the heat and that's it, moving on.

2. This special treatment Nova giving me you are talking about doesn't exist either: I got banned from discord for a full year (like rarely anyone else did) for bad attitude chatting and only got unbanned after improving my behavior and eventually writing a ticket to request for the unban. I got jailed for trolling in a language channel with a friend. Aside from that, I didn't really have any offenses which would justify a ban or even perma ban or anything in that direction, really. I got punished according to my actions, that's it.
No special treatment.

3. I didn't know I'm a heavy donator until this day but you pointing out I'd have to be a "Billionaire Donator" to get items that I've gotten is quite the compliment, thanks for that!

4. Those changes which you all seem to be thinking to be custom aren't custom at all:

I have access to kROs Sakray on my private accounts and tested things which I thought not to make any sense:

https://gyazo.com/8ac86c8523eb1a5aec7631ebfe80cc82 (kRO sakray footage showing that cicada  evades hell plant, same footage was used in the bug report in the forums, which anyone registered could see btw)

Since I'm playing ninja, I obviously notice potential bugs of classes that I play myself before others (btw I'm also playing genetic in PvP so that buff for ninja/nerf for genetic affected me both ways).

The testing happened because I was checking Star Emperors Nova Explosion behavior after release and simply noticed it's very similar to hell plant. (Fixed damage, melee physical, blocked by SW etc)

So "Nova Explosion gets evaded by cicada while Hell Plant doesn't, why?" -> that's why and how most of the things I test on kRO are tested in the first place and yeah it was a hit.

It was officially reported in novaROs bugtracker (like dozens of other bug reports I made there) and eventually fixed, not because of special treatment or anything but because it's an official bug just like other skills rAthena has scripted incorrectly(lots of them).

I do agree that I do not share the mentality of having easy access high-end gears (bio5) simply because people get less active after having their gears done but yeah I do know that the average player has the mentality of "pls give free MVP cards Sir GM"

That's it from my side, I will not comment on this thread any further as I'm sure it's just some recently banned player spreading salt or people being silly about PvP. (as 99% of the time).  /kis2
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 12:13 PM
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Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 12:16 PM
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Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 01:33 PM
Quote from: Ariasqt on Jan 03, 2019, 12:07 PM

I do agree that I do not share the mentality of having easy access high-end gears (bio5) simply because people get less active after having their gears done but yeah I do know that the average player has the mentality of "pls give free MVP cards Sir GM"


What you say is literally the opposite of what happens, people still playing easy old content as OGH and charleston , while nova's bio 5 is desertic as hell.

Is not having easy access, is having reasonable access. The hats only boost cheesy fun skills, and the enchants are disabled on PVP anyway. So why to make them so hard to get? Sunbear on 1x got if faster than anyone here.

Then is OK is your opinion. But why to put it over the opinion of absolute majority of the server? Anyone with 50 iq reasonement would suspect about that
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 01:40 PM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 01:33 PM
Is not having easy access, is having reasonable access. The hats only boost cheesy fun skills, and the enchants are disabled on PVP anyway. So why to make them so hard to get? Sunbear on 1x got if faster than anyone here.

Then is OK is your opinion. But why to put it over the opinion of absolute majority of the server? Anyone with 50 iq reasonement would suspect about that
... You guys look like complete fools. He's entitled to his opinion, just like you are. He thinks it should be hard to get Bio 5 gears, you think it should be easy. I don't get your point. How is that bias/favoritism towards him?

I doubt the GMs would just make the content easier because some people wanted it easier, obviously. What's strange is that you think his opinion weight in more than yours.  Why do you think that? Is it just because the GMs see it the same way as he does? Is that it?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 01:44 PM
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Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 01:45 PM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 01:40 PM
... You guys look like complete fools. He's entitled to his opinion, just like you are. He thinks it should be hard to get Bio 5 gears, you think it should be easy. I don't get your point. How is that bias/favoritism towards him?

I doubt the GMs would just make the content easier because some people wanted it easier, obviously. What's strange is that you think his opinion weight in more than yours.  Why do you think that? Is it just because the GMs see it the same way as he does? Is that it?

I'm giving my opinion too.
And reasonable =/= easy

No one wants it easy, but people on 1x can get those hats refined and enchanted much faster than in nova "10x", how reasonable is that?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: woero on Jan 03, 2019, 01:49 PM
I did not get a point about p2w, capitalism, and so on.
Why do you players have to be provided with free entertainment?
Did not you take a grape juice from shop for free, is not it? Or why are you not writing reviews how bad Disneyland because charges you for a tickets? I'm not protecting NovaRO or anyone else here, just really bored because of such reviews, because of knowing how hard things on admins side are.

NovaRO is complete packed product, with a lot of features which nobody (or only few market players) can provide.
Their online not fake, and demonstrate how quality everything is. I tried once it to run here and there, and I want to say - that the server is very quality one in many small details.

I don't understand your point, really.
I though that RO players avarage age is around 25-35 y.o.
Why not to support this, or any other server if you can?
No, seriosly. People working hard as f...k and you crying here that you did not got something what you did not even tried to get, or can't afford.

I want ferrary, and crying too much because does not have it.  /sob but I don't' flood here on RMS board that I can't afford the car.

Peace.  /kis2
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: literalwho on Jan 03, 2019, 01:58 PM
On one side, you have the gluehuffing Munbalance special ed class ranting about NovaRO with abysmal arguments similar to every other thread, and on the other side you have Nova using his alt Potatoes to argue and discuss instead of his actual account. I guess outsideheaven wasn't usable anymore.
Bonus points for the woeRO dude comparing half assedly importing kRO content and jRO costumes to running a theme park.

NovaRO discussion truly is the subzero IQ magnet.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 02:18 PM
I'm giving my opinion too.
And reasonable =/= easy

No one wants it easy, but people on 1x can get those hats refined and enchanted much faster than in nova "10x", how reasonable is that?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: live4lie on Jan 03, 2019, 03:31 PM
All I can see in those screenshots are 1 guy memeing, 1 guy laughing, 1 idiot who took the screenshot misunderstood it

All there is in this thread is 1 idiot crying, another idiot trying to defend that idiot with the "I've got proof but I ain't showing you because you're a random RMS poster"

are y'all trying to get this thread closed or what?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 04:12 PM
Quote from: live4lie on Jan 03, 2019, 03:31 PM
All I can see in those screenshots are 1 guy memeing, 1 guy laughing, 1 idiot who took the screenshot misunderstood it

All there is in this thread is 1 idiot crying, another idiot trying to defend that idiot with the "I've got proof but I ain't showing you because you're a random RMS poster"

are y'all trying to get this thread closed or what?

What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Min on Jan 03, 2019, 04:49 PM
I'm quoted here so I might as well give my piece as well. I'm Munbalance for those of you who don't know.

While my personal experience with NovaRO has gone through some turbulence lately I don't think this is a bad server. NovaRO is insanely polished and probably one of the nicest private servers on the scene as of right now.

To clarify my points, my interests as a more general RO youtuber have forced me head away from Nova has he is moving more towards custom features and gear. I much prefer when Nova would focus on porting official content while making it significantly less RNG cancer found on the official servers. Nova does not seem to be interested in doing this any more which is making me and many other players who were used to this upset. Content has gotten routinely harder each patch and the small customization that made things easier got fewer and fewer. A good comparison is while OGH and OGH hard have almost completely custom crafting and enchanting process which is much less likely to break than kROs, a more recent update in Bio 5 came literally unedited aside from increasing the requirements to match official grind-lengths. (keeping in mind that this is a server without many tools the official server has such as very high drop bonus items and safe refine certs) This causes players to be stressed out and give up on the content before even getting anything out of it.

Arias is crazy lucky and everyone is jealous of that. He has a flawed idea of how hard content actually is for the average because he always does things in 1-2 tries. He also has access to a lot more resources than other players (such as MVP cards) which make content much easier for him.
This luck has caused many players to start rumors and speculate that Arias has some special treatment and I don't think this could be further from the truth. Even when providing Nova tons of exposure and players; I can say I never received any kind of special treatment for this. Heck there is times where I'd post a video and 12 hours later they'd adjust the content so that the strategy in my video didn't work anymore (that's really frustrating) At points I'd even run my videos by nova before making them as to not waste my time with a video that would get fixed within a day.

I have nothing personally against arias I just don't think his viewpoint is very helpful, its like asking a lottery winner how to get rich but he seems to think everyone else is just spoiled brats who want everything for free. That couldn't be further from the truth, we just wanna feel like we're working towards something and have a somewhat realistic chance of obtaining items without spending $200 on enriched ores and grinding for a month straight.

There is also cases where bugs certain players post get fixed almost instantly while others wait for months, sometimes even years to be fixed. I think this is a coincidence as I've personally had bugs in both sides of the boat. It's unfortunate how fast these kinds of rumors spread in the RO community but due to how many fraud servers (like LimitRO ;3) there are out there I can't really blame people for being skeptical.

I can for sure say that NovaRO is not one of these though, my leaving is simply due to a change of direction for the server and one that due to my youtube duties, makes it very hard to for me specifically to follow. This along with a few other issues Nova is addressing that made crafting my videos significantly harder over the last couple months.

Obviously my recent quotes do have a bit of angst in them and I sorta regret but that is bound to happen when you're splitting ties with a server you've played for half a decade. I'm emotional, I'm human, I loved NovaRO to death, enough to invest hours a day making videos and guides and advertising the server to as many people as I could find. I'm really sad that it is moving in a direction I can't follow because I know for gosh-darn sure I'm not gonna find another server like it :(
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 04:58 PM
Quote from: AyleenDancer on Jan 03, 2019, 02:18 PM
I'm giving my opinion too.
And reasonable =/= easy

No one wants it easy, but people on 1x can get those hats refined and enchanted much faster than in nova "10x", how reasonable is that?
That's something you should bring on their forums and discuss over there instead. I don't see the GM bias in there, nor why you'd think crying on RMS is going to help you in any way regarding getting better hats or refines.

Quote from: literalwho on Jan 03, 2019, 01:58 PM
...
Just no, lol. I think Nova as his own problems with how he handles these cases [in the older threads, it was more apparent]. But at the same time, he has to deal with that s*** so I can understand how that feels. We're all players here and we've all done it: blame everything on the GMs, even if it's silly. It's always their fault, right?

Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 04:12 PM
What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.

Link these bugs here so that I, and the rest of RMS, can make our own opinion about it and see for ourselves how bias this actually is. This will be gold.

Edit: I checked by myself, as you suggested. One report from 2016, two reports from 2017 in another section. Everything else was updated since 2018. ... ... Nice try there. I'm even going as far as going to prove my claim that you're a liar:
(https://i.imgur.com/8t25VHL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/o2K0alS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NSbzpgc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MqjtMif.png)
You're welcome  /no1

Link for other RMSers:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/)
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/)
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 05:53 PM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 04:58 PM
That's something you should bring on their forums and discuss over there instead. I don't see the GM bias in there, nor why you'd think crying on RMS is going to help you in any way regarding getting better hats or refines.
Just no, lol. I think Nova as his own problems with how he handles these cases [in the older threads, it was more apparent]. But at the same time, he has to deal with that s*** so I can understand how that feels. We're all players here and we've all done it: blame everything on the GMs, even if it's silly. It's always their fault, right?

Link these bugs here so that I, and the rest of RMS, can make our own opinion about it and see for ourselves how bias this actually is. This will be gold.

Edit: I checked by myself, as you suggested. One report from 2016, two reports from 2017 in another section. Everything else was updated since 2018. ... ... Nice try there. I'm even going as far as going to prove my claim that you're a liar:
(https://i.imgur.com/8t25VHL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/o2K0alS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NSbzpgc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MqjtMif.png)
You're welcome  /no1

Link for other RMSers:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/)
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/)

hi nova nice that i have the chance to reply to you personally, i never talked about when there was looked in by some gm that left a reply to "update" the topics. I talked about the bugs being reported in 2017 and are not fixed. But as you probably dont wanna hear you guys work super unefficent you work fulltime on a server and need eternities to get stuff done. The only reason why nova is still arround is because there is no competition outside and 80% of the playerbase dosnt care cause sitting in town is enough for them.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: live4lie on Jan 03, 2019, 05:55 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 04:12 PM
What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.

And the 3rd idiot enters the thread, you're just making claims without proof just like the other 2 idiots
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 06:03 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 05:53 PM
hi nova nice that i have the chance to reply to you personally, i never talked about when there was looked in by some gm that left a reply to "update" the topics. I talked about the bugs being reported in 2017 and are not fixed. But as you probably dont wanna hear you guys work super unefficent you work fulltime on a server and need eternities to get stuff done. The only reason why nova is still arround is because there is no competition outside and 80% of the playerbase dosnt care cause sitting in town is enough for them.
Hi Lai. The proof speaks for itself. Nice empty argumentation though.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 06:13 PM
Yeah sorry to burst your bubble but that's not me, and I invite the RMS mods to confirm that with IPs. I went to sleep after my last reply yesterday as it was 5am (California), and anyone who knows me would know I'd be too triggered to stop replying on my real account.
The amount of fake news is staggering though. Arias has purchased a grand total of $70 worth of Nova Points since 2017, I don't know in what universe that is seen as a billionaire donator.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 06:19 PM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 06:03 PM
Hi Lai. The proof speaks for itself. Nice empty argumentation though.

Its real funny that just rn Tokei started to reply to the unfixed bugs in the forums. This proofs my point really well. Another hint you might wanna have if you check the category "fixed bug reports" you see that 6 out of the last 13 fixed bugs are reported from the same person and got fixed in no time but somehow all the reports from 2017 and early-mid 2018 are still there.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 06:23 PM
You have to realize that bug reports are handled on an individual basis, based on complexity, severity and available information. New reports go one of two ways, either they get almost instantly fixed, or they get thrown by the wayside and could stick around for months. A lot of the pending bug reports do not have enough information or testing done to actually be fixed properly. If you can't figure that out for yourself and instead assume that we're deciding which reports get fixed based on who's posting them, I'm afraid there's not much of a point chatting with you as I doubt you'll ever find reason. Just by looking at the last page of the skill functionality bug report page you can easily see that the bugs fixed are reported by a wide variety of players. Arias just tends to write a lot of really easy to fix bug reports, complete with screenshots and recordings of the behavior on kRO, which makes these bugs rather easy to fix.

https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/?d=2&page=24 (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/?d=2&page=24)

It's mind-boggling to me that you are attempting to put the fact that our own players properly report bugs and our administration deals with them quickly in a negative light. What kind of backwards thinking is that?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Frenchfries on Jan 03, 2019, 06:30 PM
I find it funny, Nova seems to have all this time to create alts (which it has proven in the past he does, check r/ragnarokonline on reddit). With these alts he talks up the server in huge long posts insulting others.

Yet he has no time for bug fixes? For listening to the majority of the players and giving new content or changes to the existing content?

:thinking:
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 06:36 PM
Says another account with a 1 post history. I've used zero alts in this or any thread in RMS, and even in the reddit drama you're trying to reference, the debacle was concerning my singular personal account. Not only that, but all of the fresh, 1 post accounts in this thread (yours included) are on the hate-Nova train.

I'm going to excuse myself now as you are right in one regard, I should stop using my time up reading your fiction and instead go work on my server.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 06:42 PM
Quote from: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 06:23 PM
You have to realize that bug reports are handled on an individual basis, based on complexity, severity and available information. New reports go one of two ways, either they get almost instantly fixed, or they get thrown by the wayside and could stick around for months. A lot of the pending bug reports do not have enough information or testing done to actually be fixed properly. If you can't figure that out for yourself and instead assume that we're deciding which reports get fixed based on who's posting them, I'm afraid there's not much of a point chatting with you as I doubt you'll ever find reason. Just by looking at the last page of the skill functionality bug report page you can easily see that the bugs fixed are reported by a wide variety of players. Arias just tends to write a lot of really easy to fix bug reports, complete with screenshots and recordings of the behavior on kRO, which makes these bugs rather easy to fix.

https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/?d=2&page=24 (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/?d=2&page=24)

It's mind-boggling to me that you are attempting to put the fact that our own players properly report bugs and our administration deals with them quickly in a negative light. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

So Zino's reports were not well documented and got not fixed why? Nobody here is against bug fixing the problem here is the bias towards arias.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Herpderp on Jan 03, 2019, 06:52 PM
Quote from: NovaRagnarok on Jan 03, 2019, 06:36 PM
I should stop using my time up reading your fiction and instead go work on my server.

You mean pay Tokei breadcrumbs to work on your server  /heh
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 06:53 PM
This is where you plan on going to discredit me because I happen to bring points that shatter your disillusions? You're both desperate at this point. None of you is even trying to argue or prove anything, you're just throwing yet again more accusations because that's all you've been doing so far. Trump's quote for you: all talk, no action. This is retarded, goodluck, have fun. This thread is over, you lost your credibility the moment you refused to show evidence of your claims lol, so you went to your second plan and attacked the person instead.

I gave you proofs, I showed you the irony of your logic, I called out your s***, I've done my part. I can't say the same from you.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:23 PM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 06:53 PM
This is where you plan on going to discredit me because I happen to bring points that shatter your disillusions? You're both desperate at this point. None of you is even trying to argue or prove anything, you're just throwing yet again more accusations because that's all you've been doing so far. Trump's quote for you: all talk, no action. This is retarded, goodluck, have fun. This thread is over, you lost your credibility the moment you refused to show evidence of your claims lol, so you went to your second plan and attacked the person instead.

I gave you proofs, I showed you the irony of your logic, I called out your s***, I've done my part. I can't say the same from you.

I know i ask for alot but please use the full 60IQ god gave you. https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/) 1 example of where the allegations towards arias and the bias come from.


Edit: thanks for confirming me you are Tokei, very suspicious that your RMS profile shows you last activity and in the same moment tokei enters the topic in my post. Ofc you defend yourself against the allegations in being bias towards certain players who wouldnt.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Innomite on Jan 03, 2019, 07:28 PM
I love me some good Nova dramalama

Also the OP (PANAMA) got banned for cheating in a summer event. The rest of the ranting kids can't even prove anything. Arias is insufferable and annoying but he does something for his GTB ninja, and isn't Akashi the "billionaire"?

Nova is a clown, stop fixing bugs so fast man you're killing your community
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Ara on Jan 03, 2019, 07:31 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:23 PM
I know i ask for alot but please use the full 60IQ god gave you. https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/) 1 example of where the allegations towards arias and the bias come from.

Wasn't that one marked Fixed For Next Maintenance that quickly because Tokei was literally there testing it with him, and they only posted it for documentation reasons anyway...?
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 07:41 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:23 PM
I know i ask for alot but please use the full 60IQ god gave you. https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/soft-defense-andor-hard-defense-defpierce-not-being-applied-correctly-r2025/) 1 example of where the allegations towards arias and the bias come from.

You should have provided that link in the first place. I read it now. I am lost for words. How stupid do you have to be to think this is bias towards a player? Holy, f*** s*** LOL. Is this the kind of players NovaRO has to deal with? For real? You just put yourself in the grave with that one.

I refuse to believe this is what caused this drama or that you're that stupid. I just can't. Even Blinzer is smarter than you.

A player reported a bug, Tokeiburu fixed it, therefore Nova is biased. Brillant! 60IQ right back at you dude.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:52 PM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 07:41 PM
You should have provided that link in the first place. I read it now. I am lost for words. How stupid do you have to be to think this is bias towards a player? Holy, f*** s*** LOL. Is this the kind of players NovaRO has to deal with? For real? You just put yourself in the grave with that one.

I refuse to believe this is what caused this drama or that you're that stupid. I just can't. Even Blinzer is smarter than you.

A player reported a bug, Tokeiburu fixed it, therefore Nova is biased. Brillant! 60IQ right back at you dude.

Again you didnt use your full 60IQ. Let me break it down ITS NOT ABOUT A BUG BEING REPORTED. It's about in this topic that he had to bring no evidence just write down some numbers and wollah fixed without questioning. There are dozen examples as you allready know where ppl have to bring proof over proof over proof to even get it confirmed. And everyone knows you and arias are some sort of "best friends". I mean come on you even wrote an kind off apologie statement dont be dumber than you are.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Sanctuary on Jan 03, 2019, 08:04 PM
NovaRagnarok, can you prove to us that Arias only donated $70 and whether he received additional Nova Points for other services (ex. Being a Gamemaster or helping with other projects)?
If necessary, with Arias's approval.


Calm down live4lie.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Frenchfries on Jan 03, 2019, 08:30 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:52 PM
Again you didnt use your full 60IQ. Let me break it down ITS NOT ABOUT A BUG BEING REPORTED. It's about in this topic that he had to bring no evidence just write down some numbers and wollah fixed without questioning. There are dozen examples as you allready know where ppl have to bring proof over proof over proof to even get it confirmed. And everyone knows you and arias are some sort of "best friends". I mean come on you even wrote an kind off apologie statement dont be dumber than you are.

The other issue is the speed with which it was fixed despite having very little effect. I've seen posts sit for months while I personally bump it, and then a reply saying "sorry, can't implement it." And then there's a fix for this the same day.

And as for the 1 post thing. You are an owner known for attacking people with criticisms for your server. I'm sure everyone with alt accounts wants to avoid the same persecution.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: DeePee on Jan 03, 2019, 10:26 PM
Quote from: banix on Jan 03, 2019, 07:52 PM
Again you didnt use your full 60IQ. Let me break it down ITS NOT ABOUT A BUG BEING REPORTED. It's about in this topic that he had to bring no evidence just write down some numbers and wollah fixed without questioning. There are dozen examples as you allready know where ppl have to bring proof over proof over proof to even get it confirmed. And everyone knows you and arias are some sort of "best friends". I mean come on you even wrote an kind off apologie statement dont be dumber than you are.

Listen, as a server owner one has absolutely no reason to adjust things in favour of a single player. It doesn't matter if that player happens to be a big donator, at all. Doing so is simply too risky. This is something that would maybe happen in a server with 50 players on but not on a server the size of Nova.

From what I know, Nova's goal is to have a server be as close to kRO when it comes to game mechanics. Skewing that to be in favour of a single player is basically shooting yourself in your own foot. No server owner would ever do that.

Players come and players go, all the time. The same thing goes for this supposed big donator. All that an owner of a big server cares about is continuity and they would never risk destroying that with silly things like this.

If you don't trust the way a mechanic works, I suggest you make an account on kRO and check it yourself.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: lilsword on Jan 03, 2019, 11:43 PM
Of course the server needs to earn to cover its expenses. If you don't like the way they're running the game, just leave.  /heh
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 04, 2019, 04:32 AM
Lol All u guys wanna talk about KRO mechanic that nova followed ? What happened to Doram back in days? Nova Destroyed, Kill, 'Disabled', And Nerf that class becoz your favourite guy and donator complain about it. ITS NOT BUG FIXED.

STOP USING UNSUITABLE WORDS TO YOUR s*** ACTION. ITS NERF AND CUSTOMIZATION.
NOT BUGS FIXED.

THANK YOU.

BTW SOMEONE GET REKT BY DORAM EVEN HE USE GTB. YOU GUYS KNOW WHO HE IS, NUB AND DONATOR. P2W. Getk rekt and cry to admin. Lol

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Mandie on Jan 04, 2019, 06:30 AM
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 04, 2019, 04:32 AM
Lol All u guys wanna talk about KRO mechanic that nova followed ? What happened to Doram back in days? Nova Destroyed, Kill, 'Disabled', And Nerf that class becoz your favourite guy and donator complain about it. ITS NOT BUG FIXED.

STOP USING UNSUITABLE WORDS TO YOUR s*** ACTION. ITS NERF AND CUSTOMIZATION.
NOT BUGS FIXED.

THANK YOU.

BTW SOMEONE GET REKT BY DORAM EVEN HE USE GTB. YOU GUYS KNOW WHO HE IS, NUB AND DONATOR. P2W. Getk rekt and cry to admin. Lol

Have a nice day.

You must search info and use your brain (i know, i know, its hard, but you must try) before claiming and spreading misinformation like that.

Decision to make dorams DH on Nova was made by community, not by one player. Just like GoH. You can check thread, and send us an screenshot with post from person you tried to accuse:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/topic/7955-make-dorams-rc_player-in-addition-to-rc_brute/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/topic/7955-make-dorams-rc_player-in-addition-to-rc_brute/)

Just because kRO doesnt know how to balance classes doesnt mean that players cant do this.

Also no one saying what Nova trying to COPY kRO, server just FOLLOW it. Since your english is kinda bad (just fact, cause we played together some time and i know you better than anyone here), google these words, and find a difference. Plus, no one calling doram nerf as "fix". You won't find a thread about this in bug tracker.

Off-topic:

How dumb are you? You have been banned how often? 4 times? Once for RMT, second for botting, and other two just cause you are not allowed to play on server, iirc. And you STILL trying to join NovaRO, even if the server is bad af? I can sell you a bit of logic.

Just to finish you off:
How come player, which main class with endless Cicada would  be frightened by a physical only class?  /hmm
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 04, 2019, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Potatoes on Jan 03, 2019, 06:53 PM
This is where you plan on going to discredit me because I happen to bring points that shatter your disillusions? You're both desperate at this point. None of you is even trying to argue or prove anything, you're just throwing yet again more accusations because that's all you've been doing so far. Trump's quote for you: all talk, no action. This is retarded, goodluck, have fun. This thread is over, you lost your credibility the moment you refused to show evidence of your claims lol, so you went to your second plan and attacked the person instead.

I gave you proofs, I showed you the irony of your logic, I called out your s***, I've done my part. I can't say the same from you.

Wow, how stubborn and pathetic can you be? It's amazing. You had the proofs right there. You pathetically tried to discredit them. For you to know, in a Trial, and according to title 28a, rule 608, witnesses are considered highly reliable evidence. So your miserable tries means nothing. Every novarian knows what's happening in its own server. You just have to talk to any witness as I told you in the first time. Who is the one who is all talk and no actions? do you realize?

Then you posted screenshots about a forum we all already know showing only a lot of bug reports we've already seen and you called it "evidence"... Its hilarious.


You better shouldn't have said anything because in all of your useless comments you haven't said anything adult or relevant. Your just ashaming yourself, from your first post until now... It's a little sad to see.


And is obvious to everyone here that you are Nova or related to him by the way you defend it. Inviting to check your IP only makes it even more suspect, so stop acting already



This topic lost its sence a long ago, but returning to the main issue... The thing is that for everyone who is informed there's an obvious favoritism from Nova to specific individuals, even when their criteria is pretty questionable and is unrealistic to the eyes of the great majority of the players, as for calling  Nova's Bio5 system " fine"', when an IRO player called Sunbear that havent paid a single dollar, in his own words, got his +8 bio5 hat enchanted much faster and easier than anyone in nova, in IRO, a server 1x vs nova's supposed 10x

In what universe is that fine? That's the level of criteria of that person called arias

That favoritism has brought Nova to where it is now and generated the disgust of most of its players and the necessity of having this discussion here (because in nova forum everything is censored)

This is the reality of that server called Nova to, if you believe it or not, is up to you.




And no, Nova is not following kro anymore, that's not even  in discussion, quoting his own words "we've customized since day 1 and we will continue to do it"
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 04, 2019, 07:08 AM
Quote from: Mandie on Jan 04, 2019, 06:30 AM
You must search info and use your brain (i know, i know, its hard, but you must try) before claiming and spreading misinformation like that.

Decision to make dorams DH on Nova was made by community, not by one player. Just like GoH. You can check thread, and send us an screenshot with post from person you tried to accuse:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/topic/7955-make-dorams-rc_player-in-addition-to-rc_brute/ (https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/topic/7955-make-dorams-rc_player-in-addition-to-rc_brute/)

Just because kRO doesnt know how to balance classes doesnt mean that players cant do this.

Also no one saying what Nova trying to COPY kRO, server just FOLLOW it. Since your english is kinda bad (just fact, cause we played together some time and i know you better than anyone here), google these words, and find a difference. Plus, no one calling doram nerf as "fix". You won't find a thread about this in bug tracker.

Off-topic:

How dumb are you? You have been banned how often? 4 times? Once for RMT, second for botting, and other two just cause you are not allowed to play on server, iirc. And you STILL trying to join NovaRO, even if the server is bad af? I can sell you a bit of logic.

Just to finish you off:
How come player, which main class with endless Cicada would  be frightened by a physical only class?  /hmm







Haaaaa? Excuse me? Who are u ? I think youre the one need to use ur brain lol. Even Nova dont said im botting. I dont event know how to bott, and RMT is totally out of fact.

And i think this is alternate account. And LOOK oh NEW Account  ; Register January 2019 LOL.

Calm bro,
Are you Mad ?
That im STATED THE FACT? ^^
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Lu7ky on Jan 04, 2019, 09:02 PM
Gotta say this is was a fun read. Almost as good as listening to Trump on tv.  /heh
Also Fave post ever from anything, you obviously had your jaw on the floor here:
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 03, 2019, 12:13 PM
ERM ERMMMMMMMMMMMMM.............mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
I know that Arias has no say in what happens on the server but influences it through only proper means such as bug reports etc, I have seen some stupid people out there so I'm not gonna fire up the 'idiot counter' but its getting up there from this thread alone.

As Nova stated several times most of those bad reviews are influenced by a ban as I recognize names on a few. Those reviews are also flat out picking random low numbers as stated, server up-time is not a 1/10 as even if the server is down it is 99% because of an update/maintenance forecast 1 hour before it happens. You may post the GM's approval rating at whatever you felt was right but don't lie please it brings down such an awesome server.

We get these people in our #main channel as well, they are often complaining about something that was tested in KRO and fixed accordingly (to their disliking) or its an "I think".

I cannot count how many times I have complained and not gotten my way but the only way to get rewarded in NovaRO is by Hard work, Arias is one of our top commenting people on the forum and all of his things posted have a proof of some sort. I can go on for days about how many wrongs here need to be righted but I want to get back to the game.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: JellopyFinder on Jan 05, 2019, 12:59 AM
this server should be ban from RMS for lying about the drop rate
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Boreas on Jan 05, 2019, 01:23 AM
Ranting on the RMS forum in 2019? Come on. You ain't got anything better to do with your time? Lol

Leave Nova alone, he is a decent dude and has a successful server running. If you don't like it then open up your own and get 2k players. Otherwise shut the f*** up. Seriously.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Lai on Jan 05, 2019, 08:37 AM
Exactly!
Leave him alone!

I support NovaRO!
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 06, 2019, 04:03 PM
This is server review section. If you cant take this just lock the door and cry. Critics mean to be improved, but the helper and admin have 9 years old mentality or trump' attitude. Good luck amurica.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Boreas on Jan 07, 2019, 07:20 AM
No offense, but the only one acting like he is 9 years old is you. Nova is hosted on Canada, how is that related to Trump if you don't mind the question? Grow up please, thanks!
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: live4lie on Jan 07, 2019, 10:33 AM
The topic title should be changed to "I hate capitalism" and this topic should be moved to Rant and Rave
People seem to forget they're playing on a low rate server and keep on complaining about end game and the economy
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: yennar on Jan 07, 2019, 04:45 PM
well .. that escalated quickly here.

that's the problem with RO nowadays - too many toxic players&trolls in the RO community.
Players, who believe they are entitled to anything, or believe they are extremely important, and when they don't get heard they flame here with 1 post accounts - It happens again and again on RMS.
Most of the people here don't even take it seriously or even read that BS. (Most of the people don't even look in the forums LOL )

The best thing you can do is ban them as soon as possible, so they don't destroy your server. Good move NovaRO
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: lilsword on Jan 07, 2019, 10:50 PM
This is the reason why you shouldn't debate with idiots. From NovaRO being pay-to-win to Trump real quick.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 08, 2019, 01:16 AM
Lol this two clown triggered. Im not replying to both of you-yikes. Amurica got triggered. Just manage your failed server so call FailonRo. Have a nice day. END TOPIC. these random people got triggerrd more than NOVA, funny. Bye
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: yennar on Jan 08, 2019, 05:20 AM
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 08, 2019, 01:16 AM
Lol this two clown triggered. Im not replying to both of you-yikes. Amurica got triggered. Just manage your failed server so call FailonRo. Have a nice day. END TOPIC. these random people got triggerrd more than NOVA, funny. Bye

even better than a +1 under my post. Love you too little troll /kis
Sadly it's not your call to end a topic
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Boreas on Jan 08, 2019, 11:24 AM
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 08, 2019, 01:16 AM
Lol this two clown triggered. Im not replying to both of you-yikes. Amurica got triggered. Just manage your failed server so call FailonRo. Have a nice day. END TOPIC. these random people got triggerrd more than NOVA, funny. Bye

I am from Europe, not sure what your obsession with America and Trump is. I feel almost offended to be honest. Have a nice day as well, I hope you grow up and come back with a better attitude in the future! See you~
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: misterj on Jan 09, 2019, 10:58 AM
this thread is a novaro gm team psyop to make nova look more rational and his detractors look like drooling s***. don't believe the lie$ ppl.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: newkidontheroad on Jan 10, 2019, 06:36 AM
Quote from: Boreas on Jan 05, 2019, 01:23 AM
Ranting on the RMS forum in 2019? Come on. You ain't got anything better to do with your time? Lol

Leave Nova alone, he is a decent dude and has a successful server running. If you don't like it then open up your own and get 2k players. Otherwise shut the f*** up. Seriously.

well usually i dont wanna involved in this kind of thing but novaro right now just 1.8k+ not even 2k players...and that 1.8k including lots and lots of offline vendors tho...sometimes im curious the actual amounts of players in this server.... /hmm
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: DeePee on Jan 10, 2019, 07:17 AM
Quote from: newkidontheroad on Jan 10, 2019, 06:36 AM
well usually i dont wanna involved in this kind of thing but novaro right now just 1.8k+ not even 2k players...and that 1.8k including lots and lots of offline vendors tho...sometimes im curious the actual amounts of players in this server.... /hmm

The more players a server has, the more vendors. That's just the way it goes. It's nothing new and should not come as a surprise to anyone.

And yes, the population on pretty much every private server has dropped the past months. It's all due to the release of RO Mobile.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: AyleenDancer on Jan 10, 2019, 09:39 AM

What does it have to do capitalism with bad administration of a server.

I think that most of us here will agree that hardworking must be rewarded when it comes to RO. But that's exactly what's not happening on Nova since the last updates. It have changed for bad.

The nerfing of items, the lack of progression and the grind required, they all have reached so absurd levels that is even worse than officials now.

So much so that several guilds and important players left during the last year.

Quote from: misterj on Jan 09, 2019, 10:58 AM
this thread is a novaro gm team psyop to make nova look more rational and his detractors look like drooling s***. don't believe the lie$ ppl.

Sure, with the GM of that server using one of his multiple accounts to rage answer and calling his slaves to support him, they look awesome.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: raphat on Jan 11, 2019, 04:24 AM
Good morning people.

When a thread starts as "The truth of X" you already know that it is going to be a biased rant about X. This one was no exception.

I am a new player, I have been around for about 1 month and I can give here my impressions, the good and the bad that I have found in Nova.
This is the point of view of someone who has played for several years in the top guilds of iRO and in diverse private servers, both eathena and Aegis.

Pros:
- Great community. I have been supported in 2 seconds ALWAYS by both staff and players.
- Absolutely NOT pay to win. Not a single item from Kafra is BiS in any socket. You can obtain Kafra Points just by logging each day.
- Great events, with decent not imbalanced prizes. This shocked me, they found a perfect balance and the minigames are actually fun.
- Support for EU players. It is amazing how without paying extra for a VPN I can play the server from Europe with less than 60 ms. That is simply great and a reason for me to donate.
- Almost no bots. Ok I come from iRO, so anything really seems like no bots, but I have not foudn the first one in the maps that I visit.

Cons:
- As a lot of people say, it is absurd in this episode to play with +7 gear, while you watch guides and youtube videos of people with +14 gears. The game design is not made for playing at this moment with +7/+8 stuff. They are working on that for 2019 Q2.
- A lot of staff and GM, this has never ended up well in any server I played in. If the old ones are not available, they should remve old ones and get new ones, but having 5+ GM's is not something that seems great.
- Some command seems a little bit OP, it gives you the sensation of cheating, but again, maybe I am too biased from playing in Aegis.

Overall, great experience. I am enjoying my time a lot in this server and I hope that it will be even better when Q2 changes arrive.

Have a nice rant.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Lai on Jan 11, 2019, 12:24 PM
Quote from: raphat on Jan 11, 2019, 04:24 AM
Good morning people.

When a thread starts as "The truth of X" you already know that it is going to be a biased rant about X. This one was no exception.

I am a new player, I have been around for about 1 month and I can give here my impressions, the good and the bad that I have found in Nova.
This is the point of view of someone who has played for several years in the top guilds of iRO and in diverse private servers, both eathena and Aegis.

Pros:
- Great community. I have been supported in 2 seconds ALWAYS by both staff and players.
- Absolutely NOT pay to win. Not a single item from Kafra is BiS in any socket. You can obtain Kafra Points just by logging each day.
- Great events, with decent not imbalanced prizes. This shocked me, they found a perfect balance and the minigames are actually fun.
- Support for EU players. It is amazing how without paying extra for a VPN I can play the server from Europe with less than 60 ms. That is simply great and a reason for me to donate.
- Almost no bots. Ok I come from iRO, so anything really seems like no bots, but I have not foudn the first one in the maps that I visit.

Cons:
- As a lot of people say, it is absurd in this episode to play with +7 gear, while you watch guides and youtube videos of people with +14 gears. The game design is not made for playing at this moment with +7/+8 stuff. They are working on that for 2019 Q2.
- A lot of staff and GM, this has never ended up well in any server I played in. If the old ones are not available, they should remve old ones and get new ones, but having 5+ GM's is not something that seems great.
- Some command seems a little bit OP, it gives you the sensation of cheating, but again, maybe I am too biased from playing in Aegis.

Overall, great experience. I am enjoying my time a lot in this server and I hope that it will be even better when Q2 changes arrive.

Have a nice rant.

I was like, good review...until i read "60ms from Europe," playing on a server located in Canada.... xDDD
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: bonsazon8 on Jan 11, 2019, 02:17 PM
WOW. I never thought I'd be reading this from page 1 - to now.

It's like y'all people tryna explain what's so easy to understand and yet your target isn't really wanting to hear anything from all of you. It's ok, really! Cause guess what, it's his right and... and what? IT'S RANT AND RAVE SECTION!

Anyway, to baragz(?), you seem to be so upset with the server. Have you tried playing other servers? I mean, did they give you the satisfaction when you were on NovaRO? I ain't reading back--but I saw a line that goes by: "Would you like to play to a bugged server?" DUDE??? WOULD YOU LIKE THAT??? A BUGGED SERVER?? Imagine Rune Knight's Dragon's Breath scaling it's damage with mAtk? or or let's say Lord of Vermilion getting more hits with more aspd? Yea? I know, that sounds crazy, but it's a bug! But did you know? Gemmed Sallet is actually a bugged headgear? /gg

Again, y'all just making things funnier here. Dear heavens... it's like reading a novel where the obvious antagonist is just denying that he's losing.

(I made an account to reply here, nothing else).

Been here since 2015 and NovaRO's been giving that not-so-kRO feel but in a more english-y way. The game's good, but it wasn't as good as it was before. I dont hate this thread nor the game. toodles!
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: raphat on Jan 11, 2019, 07:37 PM
Quote from: Lai on Jan 11, 2019, 12:24 PM
I was like, good review...until i read "60ms from Europe," playing on a server located in Canada.... xDDD
(https://i.imgur.com/sW8F3dx.png)
/hmm
I joined this cause all euro players got banned from warpportal due to the GDPR
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Ara on Jan 12, 2019, 02:17 PM
Quote from: raphat on Jan 11, 2019, 07:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sW8F3dx.png)
/hmm
I joined this cause all euro players got banned from warpportal due to the GDPR

Ah... that doesn't actually ping from your computer to the game server, that's the bot's ping to discord or something like that.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: lrellok on Jan 13, 2019, 12:42 PM
Thread is a little old, but i will throw my 2 cents in.  There is LITERALLY NOTHING i am aware of that cannot be gotten from continual play.  NOTHING.  you get coins for logging in, and can trade them for the cash shop currency, allowing you to get any item from the cash shop simply by logging in and sitting in pront for an hour.  The OP is an idiot who clearly did not bother looking around the game and asking questions.  I have been in continual contact with the staff on discord for 2 years and found them nothing but helpful. 
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: SoGoneGuy on Jan 13, 2019, 01:18 PM
Moral of the story is that no matter what you will always have haters
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: raphat on Jan 14, 2019, 12:46 PM
Quote from: Lai on Jan 11, 2019, 12:24 PM
I was like, good review...until i read "60ms from Europe," playing on a server located in Canada.... xDDD
Today is a bad day, but still:

(https://i.imgur.com/yNvZhLZ.png)
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 17, 2019, 07:34 PM
Have a nice day people :)
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: iamkitkatbar on Jan 18, 2019, 03:17 PM
$1k to upgrade on an ancient upgrade system
Also Where the population at.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: barragazz on Jan 18, 2019, 07:41 PM
Nova basicly lol. Unbanned donator who suck his d. Yack. Just found out all these new rms account is gm team and nova himself, even RMS review nova review his own server lol hahahaha. Want proof? Anytime bro

All negative review will be label as Fake, lie. LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Xarale on Jan 19, 2019, 08:39 PM
Quote from: barragazz on Jan 18, 2019, 07:41 PM
Nova basicly lol. Unbanned donator who suck his d. Yack. Just found out all these new rms account is gm team and nova himself, even RMS review nova review his own server lol hahahaha. Want proof? Anytime bro

All negative review will be label as Fake, lie. LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
You know, I was initially going to lock up this thread due to you bumping it repeatedly with inane rambling, even though the thread has long run its course.  Yet, what you claim this time around interests me, especially the part I've highlighted for you in your quote.

So I'll take you up on your claim, let's see that proof that Nova reviewed his own server on RMS.

I will be locking the thread soon after regardless because it's dragged on long enough at this point.

-X.

Edit: Proof was given in the following two posts, along with clarification from yC herself that this practice is allowed.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: misterj on Jan 19, 2019, 09:11 PM
this is something nova readily admits to. hes been copying and pasting his own review for years now.

https://i.imgur.com/GPDxTyA.png (https://i.imgur.com/GPDxTyA.png)
https://i.imgur.com/W5mi4qX.png (https://i.imgur.com/W5mi4qX.png)
https://i.imgur.com/orEzZrr.png (https://i.imgur.com/orEzZrr.png)
https://i.imgur.com/OpaJY25.png (https://i.imgur.com/OpaJY25.png)
https://i.imgur.com/JJ6tLXH.png (https://i.imgur.com/JJ6tLXH.png)

as far as i can tell, it's not against the rules to do so!

the name outsideheaven has been nova's other alias for years. it's the same one that he'd post about his own server under on reddit before getting banned. see https://www.reddit.com/r/RagnarokOnline/comments/5lzwvg/current_state_of_rragnarokonline_aka_rthatlowrate/dc0f8t9/?st=jr49efea&sh=8b170234 (https://www.reddit.com/r/RagnarokOnline/comments/5lzwvg/current_state_of_rragnarokonline_aka_rthatlowrate/dc0f8t9/?st=jr49efea&sh=8b170234)

personally i dont really care, yC doesn't bother to admin anymore. this site's mainly for random drama.

Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: NovaRagnarok on Jan 19, 2019, 09:14 PM
I do review my own server from time to time. I don't hide it as I was previously told by yC it was allowed. But as mrj says, I've only ever done it using my single, well-known account, following the review Terms of Service.
https://i.imgur.com/apMuZSh.png
https://i.imgur.com/pEL4kh0.png

If the policy has changed since, please let me know!
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: Xarale on Jan 19, 2019, 09:23 PM
Ah, thank you both for that!  Not going to lie, but I wasn't entirely sure if it was allowed or not, so thanks for the clarification!  (I'll ping yC regardless to see what she has to say)

Now that we have that resolved, I shall close up this thread since I think this thread has long run its course.

-X.
Title: Re: The truth about NOVARO
Post by: yC on Jan 19, 2019, 10:00 PM
I have answered this same question a number of times in this forum (most likely in the report section) and also in pm.  The policy haven't change, any player / staff / gm / owner of a server can write ONE review to any listings as long as they played or were on the server.  I explained that because it is difficult to enforce the rule of not allowing owner or staff to write review of their own server.  Think about it, we don't have a list of IPs+names+alias of every staff of every server listed.

Rest assure that those who write more than one review will be in trouble, that rule haven't change as well.

Deleting and re-writing your own review is allowed if it is not way too often that can cause trouble.  Such as some people want to have their negative review at the top of the page everyday or every few days.  Or some people want to have certain server always on the front page.  If you notice anybody is doing this to abuse the system, please let me know in PM or email.  We will check on it and take action if necessary.  But if you are talking about rewriting after a reasonable amount of time has past, we can understand it is a change of opinion or update of review.

Thanks Xarale for locking the topic, I agree this topic is long overdue for a lock.