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Offline woero

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #30 on: Jan 03, 2019, 01:49 PM »
I did not get a point about p2w, capitalism, and so on.
Why do you players have to be provided with free entertainment?
Did not you take a grape juice from shop for free, is not it? Or why are you not writing reviews how bad Disneyland because charges you for a tickets? I'm not protecting NovaRO or anyone else here, just really bored because of such reviews, because of knowing how hard things on admins side are.

NovaRO is complete packed product, with a lot of features which nobody (or only few market players) can provide.
Their online not fake, and demonstrate how quality everything is. I tried once it to run here and there, and I want to say - that the server is very quality one in many small details.

I don't understand your point, really.
I though that RO players avarage age is around 25-35 y.o.
Why not to support this, or any other server if you can?
No, seriosly. People working hard as f...k and you crying here that you did not got something what you did not even tried to get, or can't afford.

I want ferrary, and crying too much because does not have it.  /sob but I don't' flood here on RMS board that I can't afford the car.

Peace.  /kis2

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Offline literalwho

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #31 on: Jan 03, 2019, 01:58 PM »
On one side, you have the gluehuffing Munbalance special ed class ranting about NovaRO with abysmal arguments similar to every other thread, and on the other side you have Nova using his alt Potatoes to argue and discuss instead of his actual account. I guess outsideheaven wasn't usable anymore.
Bonus points for the woeRO dude comparing half assedly importing kRO content and jRO costumes to running a theme park.

NovaRO discussion truly is the subzero IQ magnet.

Offline AyleenDancer

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #32 on: Jan 03, 2019, 02:18 PM »
I'm giving my opinion too.
And reasonable =/= easy

No one wants it easy, but people on 1x can get those hats refined and enchanted much faster than in nova "10x", how reasonable is that?
« Last Edit: Jan 03, 2019, 02:31 PM by AyleenDancer »

Offline live4lie

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #33 on: Jan 03, 2019, 03:31 PM »
All I can see in those screenshots are 1 guy memeing, 1 guy laughing, 1 idiot who took the screenshot misunderstood it

All there is in this thread is 1 idiot crying, another idiot trying to defend that idiot with the "I've got proof but I ain't showing you because you're a random RMS poster"

are y'all trying to get this thread closed or what?

Offline banix

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #34 on: Jan 03, 2019, 04:12 PM »
All I can see in those screenshots are 1 guy memeing, 1 guy laughing, 1 idiot who took the screenshot misunderstood it

All there is in this thread is 1 idiot crying, another idiot trying to defend that idiot with the "I've got proof but I ain't showing you because you're a random RMS poster"

are y'all trying to get this thread closed or what?

What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.

Offline Min

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #35 on: Jan 03, 2019, 04:49 PM »
I'm quoted here so I might as well give my piece as well. I'm Munbalance for those of you who don't know.

While my personal experience with NovaRO has gone through some turbulence lately I don't think this is a bad server. NovaRO is insanely polished and probably one of the nicest private servers on the scene as of right now.

To clarify my points, my interests as a more general RO youtuber have forced me head away from Nova has he is moving more towards custom features and gear. I much prefer when Nova would focus on porting official content while making it significantly less RNG cancer found on the official servers. Nova does not seem to be interested in doing this any more which is making me and many other players who were used to this upset. Content has gotten routinely harder each patch and the small customization that made things easier got fewer and fewer. A good comparison is while OGH and OGH hard have almost completely custom crafting and enchanting process which is much less likely to break than kROs, a more recent update in Bio 5 came literally unedited aside from increasing the requirements to match official grind-lengths. (keeping in mind that this is a server without many tools the official server has such as very high drop bonus items and safe refine certs) This causes players to be stressed out and give up on the content before even getting anything out of it.

Arias is crazy lucky and everyone is jealous of that. He has a flawed idea of how hard content actually is for the average because he always does things in 1-2 tries. He also has access to a lot more resources than other players (such as MVP cards) which make content much easier for him.
This luck has caused many players to start rumors and speculate that Arias has some special treatment and I don't think this could be further from the truth. Even when providing Nova tons of exposure and players; I can say I never received any kind of special treatment for this. Heck there is times where I'd post a video and 12 hours later they'd adjust the content so that the strategy in my video didn't work anymore (that's really frustrating) At points I'd even run my videos by nova before making them as to not waste my time with a video that would get fixed within a day.

I have nothing personally against arias I just don't think his viewpoint is very helpful, its like asking a lottery winner how to get rich but he seems to think everyone else is just spoiled brats who want everything for free. That couldn't be further from the truth, we just wanna feel like we're working towards something and have a somewhat realistic chance of obtaining items without spending $200 on enriched ores and grinding for a month straight.

There is also cases where bugs certain players post get fixed almost instantly while others wait for months, sometimes even years to be fixed. I think this is a coincidence as I've personally had bugs in both sides of the boat. It's unfortunate how fast these kinds of rumors spread in the RO community but due to how many fraud servers (like LimitRO ;3) there are out there I can't really blame people for being skeptical.

I can for sure say that NovaRO is not one of these though, my leaving is simply due to a change of direction for the server and one that due to my youtube duties, makes it very hard to for me specifically to follow. This along with a few other issues Nova is addressing that made crafting my videos significantly harder over the last couple months.

Obviously my recent quotes do have a bit of angst in them and I sorta regret but that is bound to happen when you're splitting ties with a server you've played for half a decade. I'm emotional, I'm human, I loved NovaRO to death, enough to invest hours a day making videos and guides and advertising the server to as many people as I could find. I'm really sad that it is moving in a direction I can't follow because I know for gosh-darn sure I'm not gonna find another server like it :(

Offline Potatoes

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #36 on: Jan 03, 2019, 04:58 PM »
I'm giving my opinion too.
And reasonable =/= easy

No one wants it easy, but people on 1x can get those hats refined and enchanted much faster than in nova "10x", how reasonable is that?
That's something you should bring on their forums and discuss over there instead. I don't see the GM bias in there, nor why you'd think crying on RMS is going to help you in any way regarding getting better hats or refines.

...
Just no, lol. I think Nova as his own problems with how he handles these cases [in the older threads, it was more apparent]. But at the same time, he has to deal with that s*** so I can understand how that feels. We're all players here and we've all done it: blame everything on the GMs, even if it's silly. It's always their fault, right?

What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.

Link these bugs here so that I, and the rest of RMS, can make our own opinion about it and see for ourselves how bias this actually is. This will be gold.

Edit: I checked by myself, as you suggested. One report from 2016, two reports from 2017 in another section. Everything else was updated since 2018. ... ... Nice try there. I'm even going as far as going to prove my claim that you're a liar:




You're welcome  /no1

Link for other RMSers:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/
« Last Edit: Jan 03, 2019, 05:20 PM by Potatoes »

Offline banix

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #37 on: Jan 03, 2019, 05:53 PM »
That's something you should bring on their forums and discuss over there instead. I don't see the GM bias in there, nor why you'd think crying on RMS is going to help you in any way regarding getting better hats or refines.
Just no, lol. I think Nova as his own problems with how he handles these cases [in the older threads, it was more apparent]. But at the same time, he has to deal with that s*** so I can understand how that feels. We're all players here and we've all done it: blame everything on the GMs, even if it's silly. It's always their fault, right?

Link these bugs here so that I, and the rest of RMS, can make our own opinion about it and see for ourselves how bias this actually is. This will be gold.

Edit: I checked by myself, as you suggested. One report from 2016, two reports from 2017 in another section. Everything else was updated since 2018. ... ... Nice try there. I'm even going as far as going to prove my claim that you're a liar:




You're welcome  /no1

Link for other RMSers:
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/skills/
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/items/

hi nova nice that i have the chance to reply to you personally, i never talked about when there was looked in by some gm that left a reply to "update" the topics. I talked about the bugs being reported in 2017 and are not fixed. But as you probably dont wanna hear you guys work super unefficent you work fulltime on a server and need eternities to get stuff done. The only reason why nova is still arround is because there is no competition outside and 80% of the playerbase dosnt care cause sitting in town is enough for them.

Offline live4lie

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #38 on: Jan 03, 2019, 05:55 PM »
What you obviously dont understand or dont want understand is, that this person has a very high influence on the administration, you can register yourself to the nova forums check out the bug section and see there are alot of bugs that date back till 2017 and are not fixed yet. This one person tho gets his stuff fixed in no time at all.

And the 3rd idiot enters the thread, you're just making claims without proof just like the other 2 idiots

Offline Potatoes

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #39 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:03 PM »
hi nova nice that i have the chance to reply to you personally, i never talked about when there was looked in by some gm that left a reply to "update" the topics. I talked about the bugs being reported in 2017 and are not fixed. But as you probably dont wanna hear you guys work super unefficent you work fulltime on a server and need eternities to get stuff done. The only reason why nova is still arround is because there is no competition outside and 80% of the playerbase dosnt care cause sitting in town is enough for them.
Hi Lai. The proof speaks for itself. Nice empty argumentation though.

Offline NovaRagnarok

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #40 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:13 PM »
Yeah sorry to burst your bubble but that's not me, and I invite the RMS mods to confirm that with IPs. I went to sleep after my last reply yesterday as it was 5am (California), and anyone who knows me would know I'd be too triggered to stop replying on my real account.
The amount of fake news is staggering though. Arias has purchased a grand total of $70 worth of Nova Points since 2017, I don't know in what universe that is seen as a billionaire donator.

Offline banix

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #41 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:19 PM »
Hi Lai. The proof speaks for itself. Nice empty argumentation though.

Its real funny that just rn Tokei started to reply to the unfixed bugs in the forums. This proofs my point really well. Another hint you might wanna have if you check the category "fixed bug reports" you see that 6 out of the last 13 fixed bugs are reported from the same person and got fixed in no time but somehow all the reports from 2017 and early-mid 2018 are still there.

Offline NovaRagnarok

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #42 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:23 PM »
You have to realize that bug reports are handled on an individual basis, based on complexity, severity and available information. New reports go one of two ways, either they get almost instantly fixed, or they get thrown by the wayside and could stick around for months. A lot of the pending bug reports do not have enough information or testing done to actually be fixed properly. If you can't figure that out for yourself and instead assume that we're deciding which reports get fixed based on who's posting them, I'm afraid there's not much of a point chatting with you as I doubt you'll ever find reason. Just by looking at the last page of the skill functionality bug report page you can easily see that the bugs fixed are reported by a wide variety of players. Arias just tends to write a lot of really easy to fix bug reports, complete with screenshots and recordings of the behavior on kRO, which makes these bugs rather easy to fix.
 
https://www.novaragnarok.com/forum/bug-tracker/fixed-bugs/?d=2&page=24

It's mind-boggling to me that you are attempting to put the fact that our own players properly report bugs and our administration deals with them quickly in a negative light. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

Offline Frenchfries

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #43 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:30 PM »
I find it funny, Nova seems to have all this time to create alts (which it has proven in the past he does, check r/ragnarokonline on reddit). With these alts he talks up the server in huge long posts insulting others.

Yet he has no time for bug fixes? For listening to the majority of the players and giving new content or changes to the existing content?

:thinking:

Offline NovaRagnarok

Re: The truth about NOVARO
« Reply #44 on: Jan 03, 2019, 06:36 PM »
Says another account with a 1 post history. I've used zero alts in this or any thread in RMS, and even in the reddit drama you're trying to reference, the debacle was concerning my singular personal account. Not only that, but all of the fresh, 1 post accounts in this thread (yours included) are on the hate-Nova train.

I'm going to excuse myself now as you are right in one regard, I should stop using my time up reading your fiction and instead go work on my server.