The truth about MidiCityRO - current situation

Started by Kyrellia, May 03, 2017, 12:31 PM

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Kyrellia

Hello everyone,

I've come today with very, very sad news - which will probably shock everyone who will read this.
The project MidiCityRO is on ice - probably forever. I'll explain why and what happened in the past 6 weeks.

Not too long ago the Admin/Owner of MidiCityRO - ,,Cyan Hijirikawa" went absent.
No one could get into touch with him. So many things have been left behind (not only ingame stuff).

It all started with Kyrellia (which is me) pming Grey the Fund Supporter & Partner of ,,MidiCityRO" about an open case, related about someone who provided
some Videos/Banners ect. for MidiCityRO. This person got not even paid 1/3 of that which was still owed.
After some investigation, which we had to do ourselves, (because no one could get in touch the the Admin/Owner) we saw that this person really didn't get the payment yet.
(BUT the money for the Videos from the Staff-Account was gone already, even before the person agreed to make the Video for the Server).
'Here you have to know, that the person who made the Video got paid from Cyan's personal PayPal Account and not from the Staff-Account, like Cyan & Grey did agree
to before. Grey didn't even know that this Video-Deal was even made.

And so, we of course were curious about what the hell is actually going on there and we investigated as much as we could and found ,,hell"..

As you can see from the Screenshots, the payments which has been added to the Staff-Account, has been taken away from the Admin/Owner for stuff,
which was never provided (like RMS Ad's haven't been paid, but the money was taken from the Account).

And probably for many other things, which we might not even know about.

Fact is, he made several withdrawels form the Staff-Account into his personal PayPal Account, when everything can be paid via the Staff-Acount.


Another case was, where Cyan asked Grey to lend him some money until next week - which he also never got back. (This is a personal issue, but I think its not
less important than anything else).
'Here you should know that no one of us had any contact with Cyan since end of April.

Also there was a horrible case for everyone who found out recently about that:
We had a Donator, who wanted a personal Pet. He also paid the money on Cyan's personal PayPal Account, instead of the Staff-Account.
He accepted his Donation, even tho at this time we had NO spriter to work with us. As you can think yourself, the Pet was never delivered to the Donator..

The GePard is also running on Cyan's Account, and we cant do anything about it. Grey invested 100$ into GePard for nothing - because Cyan didn't even
make the payments for it (so it's running out). The currently "Beta/Test Server" will probably shut down in the next couple of days. He also owns the Accounts for the Website,
Forum and Control-Panel, which we can't do anything about. Sadly...


Today we had a Staff Meeting - obviously without Cyan.
Everyone is shocked and many still cant believe what happened. We are all unbelieveably mad about the current situation and how things got out of hand.
We will report Cyan to PayPal, RMS, RAthena and so on.
Everyone of us, especially ,,Grey" invested a lot of time, effort, passion and money into the Server, which is now going down because of a single individual name ,,Cyan".

We were struggling about revealing all the truth to everyone, because it probably wont make us look much good in those cases.
But here we are, providing Screenshots, Information and so on, because we hate keeping secrets and we know that we didn't do anything wrong.

We will message everyone who donated to the Server as soon as possible to hopefully find a positive solution for this.


We are very, very sorry to bring such news upon all of us, but the truth has to be told.
Everyone is sad that the Project ends like this..


http://prnt.sc/f3ouot





Boreas


Kyrellia


yC

I don't know what to say, the project got many people looking forward to it.  The topic Cyan created about MidiCity dated back half a year ago or more, why waste all these months of work.  I am hoping there is some misunderstanding or communication issue somewhere that went wrong.  Anyway, according to this forum's record the last time Cyan logged on was on April 11th, 2017.

Dragonis1701

It does make sense. Cyan, himself, said that he opened the server a month earlier than planned. If he was in a bad spot and needing money, RO servers are good for that. But it does show a lack of foresight to work for a very long time on a server just to throw it away for a few hundred bucks. I've confronted Cyan plenty of times about how he needs to get organized but it seems that this is not his strong suit. We'll have to wait for Cyan to respond to really know but it does look pretty bad.

Kyrellia

Oh, yes. Indeed lots of ,,missunderstanding" or how ever you would like to make your own mind about this topic.
After him coming back and presenting his excuses, at least 2 (of which I know) left the Team (not really on good terms, tho).

I'll only post here my opinion: it looks made up, those who were not involved into "their plans/knowledge" left, others kept quite until yesterday (the reasons for everything stated above).
Very, very dodgy stuff from my point of view.
I've had more than enough from that Drama for the last couple of days.
I've posted this with agreement and suppport by Grey.

Cyan said he'll try to clean his name *shrugs*


To me, I left because of : it simply looks very well made up, no communication, players/donators know more than staff member, drama is pissing me off, cant stand "working" for something/someone who's leaving a a bad impression to me.


I'm sure Cyan will come here and explain "his" point.


Really tired of that lmao.
This thing is done for me. I'll keep taking a look into this thread 1-2x per month maybe.

Cyan Hijirikawa

Oh good god, I can't imagine how much misinformation someone can disseminate over in just a few days of me being inactive.

Regarding the money that came in? Never touched it nor did I move it after it got into my account aside from paying what I have promised to pay with the amount. Also note, I "told" my co-admin that I will be moving funds and have informed him for what it's for.

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f3u2ri

Regarding Gepard not being paid, nor was the money ever sent to the person who is selling it (Functor)

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f420nf
Proof: http://prntscr.com/f421ee

Regarding the donator

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f42209

Regarding banners/ad money (Ad money still in the pot, refer to first link) - Those are GIFs by the way

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f3u5jx
Proof: http://prntscr.com/f3u5me

Regarding not paying the server

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f3u6hl

And lastly, the most misinformation someone can give is this

QuoteCyan said he'll try to clean his name *shrugs*

Proof: http://prntscr.com/f423sh

I mean, come on, almost a year of my dedicated time for a couple of bucks? I'm sorry to disappoint but I am not that cheap nor do I take what I've worked for, for granted.

Oh, you might have left due to the fact that

1. You disseminated wrong information and was shot down, hard.
2. Even your last statement is as wrong as it gets. I do not care for my name, I only care for what happens to MIDI and it's reputation.
3. Drama? Who created and blew the situation into this proportion? YOU did not have the right to do any of this in part, Grey who was my co-admin should have been the one who made the post since HE knows more than you do, and as a result, misinformation has been given.

Anyways reason why I went away for a few days, "I need income" - I don't get paid to do this work.

Slight tip, get your facts straight.

Kyrellia

#7
It's really sad I didn't take any screenshots of that whole s***.

I don't know to who you were talking in the last screenshot, but I left there already the group..
Got this screenshot from Grey http://prntscr.com/f42nx9

You don't need to blame everything on me only because most of the team decided to make this public with Grey's agreement and his support.

Also you know exactly on what date we all were refering about the GePard (according to Grey the 2nd Payment hasn't been paid) http://prntscr.com/f42pdd

StriderHiryuu

Quote from: Kyrellia on May 04, 2017, 11:22 AM
It's really sad I didn't take any screenshots of that whole s***.

I don't know to who you were talking in the last screenshot, but I left there already the group..
Got this screenshot from Grey http://prntscr.com/f42nx9

You don't need to blame everything on me only because most of the team decided to make this public with Grey's agreement and his support.

Also you know exactly on what date we all were refering about the GePard http://prntscr.com/f42pdd

Im curious about gepard monthly payment, because there is no monthly payment for it. Gepard is a one time payment software like harmony. Seems this cyan guy is just deceiving his team.  /wah /wah

Cyan Hijirikawa

Quote from: StriderHiryuu on May 04, 2017, 01:16 PM
Im curious about gepard monthly payment, because there is no monthly payment for it. Gepard is a one time payment software like harmony. Seems this cyan guy is just deceiving his team.  /wah /wah

Excuse me? http://prntscr.com/f48u5d

Again, get your facts straight.

Quote from: Kyrellia on May 04, 2017, 11:22 AM
It's really sad I didn't take any screenshots of that whole s***.

I don't know to who you were talking in the last screenshot, but I left there already the group..
Got this screenshot from Grey http://prntscr.com/f42nx9

You don't need to blame everything on me only because most of the team decided to make this public with Grey's agreement and his support.

Also you know exactly on what date we all were refering about the GePard (according to Grey the 2nd Payment hasn't been paid) http://prntscr.com/f42pdd

Your last screenshot doesn't really coincide to what Grey has mentioned to Functor.

http://prntscr.com/f48uo9
http://prntscr.com/f48vk9

From I gathered Grey pledged he would shoulder Gepard, if he had said that we will take the money off of the donations I would have paid the $50.

Anyways aside from empty allegations, you are just grasping at straws wherein clearly you did not have the right information and led to this situation. My time shouldn't even be spent cleaning this mess up made by someone who's trigger happy with showing off how "righteous" they are, this will be my last reply to this senseless thread which is full of crap and misinformation right from the get-go.

"Get your facts straight"

skyleo

#10
> @mail.ru
Close thread?

(Or is that seriously gepard's email? I highly doubt such a service wouldn't use it own domain's mail server)

==> I think MidiRO got scammed on their Gepard Shield.

Yatohime

Quote from: skyleo on May 05, 2017, 04:22 AM
> @mail.ru
Close thread?

(Or is that seriously gepard's email? I highly doubt such a service wouldn't use it own domain's mail server)

==> I think MidiRO got scammed on their Gepard Shield.

Its legit Functor (Gepard)  paypal email account. Our Ragnarok use gepard also and I am the one handlinv it. $150 is the bsic function of gepard lifetime license

Yuzo

I guess Functor made a "deal" with Cyan. Looks to me as if he could not pay the full amount up front, so wanted to split payment. And yes, that is Functor's PayPal email. You would think something with the reputation it has would have an official support network or at least a website. But I don't fault Functor (and that's another subject entirely, a bit off-topic here) since it gives him the option to fade in and out of reach, hence the one-time-life-time payment.

Mary Magdalene

Now based to what I've read It's pretty obvious the TS just jumped into the conclusion and started a drama. I've seen Cyan's RO beta test going pretty well and i guess he ain't stupid to abandon such effort that has been already made for almost a year(?).

IRL issues could matter mate, or i should say you should have just waited to explain Cyan's side instead of jumping into the conclusion.
" Not hurting somebody is a children's nonsense because you will really gonna hurt somebody even if you don't want to "

yC

So checking on listings I notice http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=19415&itv=6&url_sname=MIDICity is showing a control panel error.  What's the status of the project or I am just lucky to run into some maintenance time?

Mrew2


With A Smile


Neffletics

I met Cyan when MidiCity was just a concept and was still planning their alpha release. I don't think he'd deceive people and waste all his effort for 250ish USD.

Also Kyriella was my former player in SorinRO and based on my experience, she loves to exaggerate things. She mentioned that she hates drama but she loves to start one. She won't make the drama big, but she'd love to influence other people's perspective.  /ok
solacero rip

Zinnia

Quote from: Neffletics on Jun 27, 2017, 04:15 PM
Also Kyriella was my former player in SorinRO and based on my experience, she loves to exaggerate things. She mentioned that she hates drama but she loves to start one. She won't make the drama big, but she'd love to influence other people's perspective.  /ok

Sounds like any woman ever :troll:

Kris

Kyriella sounds like wifey material, DM me if you're single & ready to mingle
2k21 Return

Blinzer

the original post actually kind of gave away that the whole "problem" was invented, it's just a shame i only saw this now

gotta love weebs



Kyrellia

Quote from: Neffletics on Jun 27, 2017, 04:15 PM
I met Cyan when MidiCity was just a concept and was still planning their alpha release. I don't think he'd deceive people and waste all his effort for 250ish USD.

Also Kyriella was my former player in SorinRO and based on my experience, she loves to exaggerate things. She mentioned that she hates drama but she loves to start one. She won't make the drama big, but she'd love to influence other people's perspective.  /ok

Oh really? please tell me more about that -.- (not.)

Zinnia

Quote from: Kyrellia on Jul 07, 2017, 09:20 AM
Oh really? please tell me more about that -.- (not.)

hello from the other side

dgrey

Alrighty,
it's probably about time to clear the air on this situation, and solve any misinterpreted information presented.

Yes, several issues were corrected with the admins return and funds were finally traced back in regards to gepard and server hosting.

The team had a meeting during Cyan's dissapearance, disclosing many more topics which unfortunately weren't resolved or corrected by his return. Due to these issues he actually stepped down from administrator.

I went on hiatus as stated; and returned within 5 weeks. The project was desolate, and clearly abandoned.

I actually waited an extra month to receive some form of response from any of the remaining team, ex-admin or beta players/testers

Catching up on everything, discovered that almost everything financial was still in arrears, and I no longer retained access to the staffs' Paypal Account. However, I could follow all transactions made through the linked main staff email.
Our ex-admin had withdrawn all remaining funds into his personal account at this point.

Later, after finally reassembling the team and chasing up multiple paid outstanding jobs the team were waiting on for further development. In which I personally paid for in the past through the Staff Paypal. I then find that every single job was refunded in full back to our ex-admins' personal PayPal account.
There's also several other outstanding bills as well, certain providers of already done jobs were only paid at most half of what was owed to them, and I've now been forced to cover these expenses out of pocket to keep the project alive.

In total from what I can trace, after considering a hefty personal loan to Cyan, and all refunds from outside jobs, including all donations and outstanding bills. Cyan managed to smuggle out 800USD+ in hand from abandoning the project, whilst leaving behind roughly 700USD+ in outstanding bills and moneys owed; not just to myself, but also a fellow supporter of the project.

Taking over this project has certainly not been an enjoyable experience. Certainly not for some of the passionate members of staff who've been with the project for so long and invested so much into it's customization.
I have given my word to them that this project will release despite what's occurred, and how central most our internal struggles base around a particular character who's greed nearly buried everyones passion and enjoyment with this server.

Personally I'd vote to have him HoS'd. I can certainly supply all evidence to back up everything stated as factual. However, it doesn't look like he'll ever return considering his last movements on this forum was in May, and any attempts of contacting him result in the cold shoulder. No matter who attempts to talk to him.

I'd like to invite everyone back who's left the community to just give us another go.

I can say with clear certainty that the project will release by late October / early November. Most likely sooner actually!

The direction of the server has changed a tad now, and many new features are being implemented at a fast and steady pace.
We have a whole new Discord, Website, Forum, Patcher, and a new team name for the project. Do come and stay up to date! + Now Drama free~

https://discord.gg/eDtVz3v

Thank you once again.
My regards
Grey

Evin