TalonRo banned by assumption

[Azura5437]

1) Non solid evidence
( GM judgement = 80-90% item lists that post up is in your ID and you just happens to log in after a long period so it must be you = item lists that just pop up on the account with only 1 thread open prove everything )

2) High GM(Boreas) make up a fake evidence
(about location information and fact that a time format is not the same for everyone )

3) Refuse to listen to a player which show the same kind of evidence as GMs does
(not exactly the same item lists)

This review will statue out directly to a GM Boreas and a rumors about getting banned randomly , getting banned with out solid evidence and i am here to says that this fact is true.

GM Boreas can't do his job as good as a GM and he can't prove anything. He is not good enough for a GM job. If i start my tickets with others high GM i would get more solid evidence than a plain words which doesn't prove anything.( and maybe a help too ? )

Background on myself : I was a player there in TalonRo for a few years and already have a decent gear. I sometime donate to the server , not much to be said though. I really enjoy myself staying there , oftenly alone. Still , i always keep an eyes on the server community and economy balance so i don't miss any of it.
Now i got banned from the server and yet to get any solid evidence from a high GM from the server. Not just they trying to blame me , ignore any prove i try to give him , but he also couldn't answer a question with a reason. My review hold no grudge about the server , but only one person who is not actually doing his work right.

In game Review : 8/10

The server itself is well done and balance. There is a way for a non-donate and newbie player to make their ways up , while donor can safe up a time and can get a hand on a better items faster.
But there is still an exclusive quest that you can't gain by only donating to the server and you need to get things done by yourself too which is challenge for a certain level.
Server events are usually up to date like for example you got easter's egg event in the summer and X mas event in the winter which make it interesting because the events is usually fresh and new.

LvL places and farming places are divide in a different places to help a player to be able to farm separately which make a map not too crowded.
Frequently , you might find the same popular place for lvl and it require a lot of gears to be accept in a party and that's make a server somehow boring at the later time you keep playing , same goes for farming places.
A !main chat is kinda pointless but it can be closed at anytime. An overall player are also friendly but you just need to choose which can suit you better a hunting or social.

The server is great but some of GM is bad which drag down the server statement. Many of opinion have been statue up about Boreas and he doesn't improve it any better. Just become worse and worse. You should only work in the background and let some others GM that can handle this better answer this instead.

Fact that not all the GM is helpful cannot be deny. There is only a few events + high GM that actually doing his work and others , especially Boreas just being an donkey. I once asking him about ghostring card information since this server is customed and i got a wrong information from him , from a high GM. Its better you says that you don't know instead of acting like you know everything. Thanks that later Seiren correct it. ( about Ghostring Vs EQ question which official server does work but not on TalonRO )

This is a support ticket chat log which contain the fact that Boreas cannot work as a GM as for he can't answer anything clearly. He also show that he is missing many point here and do not want to accept it , but in RMS he is not a GM any longer so he can't just doing what he want :/

This is the 1st picture from a support ticket that i try to send in after i found out that my ID was banned and i didn't know why.

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And i got a plain , non-explanation text back. Does this mean that 1 thread-user create it after i logged on an hour explain everything ? i don't even know about that thread.

So , moving on the 2nd picture. I try to be reasoning and ask him out what is going on.

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Oddly enough that the time is actually sounds right! and that user still active while i'm writing right now and right here! WOW!

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I try to explain my self at the 3rd report and try to show him my prove that i can find at the moment.

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Please remember this text about the " city names rough tracking " that Boreas statue up which totally show that he clearly make this up and he can't prove anything.

In this text i try to explain to him that why i always try my best (which i failed this once and only once) to maintain my activities so i can get a help from a GM when something like this is happens. But it did not help me at all :/ in fact Boreas trying to ignore it and blame me.

Now the climax , since i am still wondering about location that he said in the text and try it out myself with others user in that website and found out that the location is accurate. It is not as Boreas said at all.

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Every user there have a different "SOLID" location which you deny it and i prove it over and over again that this location can prove it.
Now please explain this Boreas. You can't deny it and you better come straight that you didn't know this and the fact that you answer me like you know everything is bad and only make things worse. It is not ok to fake your evidence.

In your side note if Seiren banned me why did you even answer my question ? you don't know anything about the case so shouldn't Seiren answer me instead ? He would have a better explanation and a more solid evidence. I did not do it so i don't and i need a solid prove from GM team , not a half-bake you just make up this last minute.

The 4th text clearly tell that you fake up the evidence about the location and abuse your GM statue. I already prove it that " ANYONE CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF ANY USERS THERE " and you try to ignore this. Next time if you don't know just said it and that is why i try to help myself here. GM should have correct it not fake it up half donkey like this.

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I even bother try to think what that thread is missing and try to think how different of that faker that try to blame me.

The 5th text you can't answer me so you lock down the support ticket. You refuse to listen to my explanation and obsessed with " your wrong location information " which i try to prove it and it not works the way you are telling.

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And Lastly when i tell you to look for yourself that anyone can view it and it will be a differently location , you try to deny it and abuse your GM statue. Still the fact that you are lying here cannot be deny. The location is not the same for any members there. I can capture others location and show you too if you want , but you better check it out yourself to see if i'm lying about this " location " or not.

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IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING JUST DON'T MAKE THINGS UP " Boreas ". Just let me talk with Seiren instead if he is the one who banned me. That way he know what is going on and i can clearly explain my things to him without being lying to like this.
Boreas you shouldn't answer at all since your answer is all wrong since that in-game knowledge about ghostring card. You are not only a high GM and i can wait for the one who actually working his job to answer my question. Not just some fake you are making up :/

Ps. Right now that member is still active! what are you saying about this ? because i am not sleeping yet ? can you be a bit more reasoning ? if not then just ignore me and let me meet Seiren instead.

Ps2. If you cannot clarify me about that location , ip address that statue up is a different from my location right now , don't bother answer at all since your information about " city names rough tracking " is wrong. Anyone can view any member location and i already prove it that even i didn't register i can view "DeathSlayer" solid location. If the fact you said that i'm the only one that see it so every location should be the same location.

Ps3. I just read it clearly without panic myself and i found out that i have never ask you for unban me but i only ask you how can i prove my innocence , but you " Boreas " you always go back to " we will not unban you ". I don't really care since you are not the only Ro server. But the fact that you fake up cannot be deny. Just said that you don't know and won't accept and just want to end this by abuse your GM power is more understandable.

Ps4. More prove that " Boreas " try to deny/refuse it .

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[applecidervinegar]

I have friends inside that reported to the GM for abusive comments in pvp towards their mother. And the GM's reply was that they allow some thrashtalking. And the same group of friends that called faggot to another person and got banned.

I'd play this server for the community. But do realise that this server is extremely pay to win. Pay to win in that you donate to their coins and sell it for zeny and use it to buy OP gears.

While people that don't donate spend like a year to get one freaking SQI. and people that donate get it almost immediately.

[Cressy]

I have friends inside that reported to the GM for abusive comments in pvp towards their mother. And the GM's reply was that they allow some thrashtalking. And the same group of friends that called faggot to another person and got banned.

I'd play this server for the community. But do realise that this server is extremely pay to win. Pay to win in that you donate to their coins and sell it for zeny and use it to buy OP gears.

While people that don't donate spend like a year to get one freaking SQI. and people that donate get it almost immediately.

Some trash talking is allowed, but things like sexism and racism are not. Calling someone a faggot is a sexist term, which is why you would be punished for it. GMs will also act in the event that the trashtalking is extreme, and also if it continues when the person has made the effort to remove themselves from the situation, like if you leave PvP and they start PMing you. Also, Pay to Win refers to a situation in which donating to the server will gain you an advantage that cannot be otherwise gained. Any player can get Talon Coins OR just zeny by playing the game, donating won't give you a single thing you can't get otherwise, in fact even if you donated a few hundred dollars in order to get the best gears (SQIs) it would mean very little since you would still need to do the quest in order to get the most out of them. Naturally donating will give you a speed up, but not that great a one. It took me a little under 2 months to have several fully geared characters, sleips and half the stuff for my first SQI without a single donation. That was while I was also studying and working.

To the OP, no one on Talon is banned unless there is sufficient evidence that they broke the rule. In your case Boreas was acting on the fact that the thread selling items posted a full list of your items only 10 minutes after you happened to be logged in. The fact that the origin of the posts was so close is also evidence, locations will never be exact on such things, I've had websites that thought I lived in a completely different state before. Those things together do seem pretty incriminating. Not sure why you're acting like Boreas is the devil anyways, he wasn't even the one who banned you...

[DeePee]

I keep wondering why people don't read the rules, break them, then rant on RMS about the GMs acting accordingly.

[Boreas]

This topic won't get you unbanned either. Next time follow the rules and don't make up bad excuses. I explained to you why you were banned, you simply didn't accept it. I will not continue the support ticket discussion here as I personally don't see the need for that.

Good luck on your next server.

Regards,
The Bad Guy Bobo

[Azura5437]

@Cressy where is a " SOLID " evidence instead of only words that can't prove anything ? I already try to explain about items that its not my full lists ( i only have a lot of grap juices too not a dozen of items that you can waste over like that thread has been saying and so on )

The fact that the origin of the posts was so close is also evidence, locations will never be exact on such things, I've had websites that thought I lived in a completely different state before. Those things together do seem pretty incriminating. Not sure why you're acting like Boreas is the devil anyways, he wasn't even the one who banned you...

Then why don't you think anyone could be using a proxy and fake that up on that website and try to prove it ? I'm not making him a devil one but the fact he is lying cannot be deny.
How do you even judge someone with an uncertain evidence ? ( oh right this is how TalonRO works ? )
You also don't bring up anything i statue that Boreas is not right so i can assume that you are at GM side :/ which mean your judgement is at one sided.

@Boreas Again , I have never ask you to unban me, only ask how do i prove my innocence. Don't be so full of yourselves. You are the one that make up bad excuses. I am not saying you are a bad guy here , i only statue that you are lying and fake up your evidence. That's simple and all.

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Show me your prove with " SOLID EVIDENCE " like i show you. Not just big talking or just make up text without any prove.
I show you that your location information is wrong and it will never change since it is wrong from what you said.

Ps. BTW you never come up and apologize about your wrong information of ghostring card fact either even you are the one that gave out a wrong information. Seiren is the one who correct it.
Will you make a refund if the card is not working like what you was said ? of course not you are a GM there you can do anything but not here.

[DeePee]

Aight, let's see. Your Champion alone:

EpicNPC: +4 Suiken [x3 Turtle general card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Guard [Maya card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +7 Stone buckler [Golden thief bug]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Valkyrja shield [Alice card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +8 Odin blessing [Garm card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Diablos Robe [Gloom under night card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Proxy skin fragment [Deviling card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: 1 Megingjard and 1 Sting Brisingamen
Your Char: same items. Not 2 megs, not 2 bris, but those exact same two

EpicNPC: Jaguar Hat
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: Angel wing ears [incubus card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Sleipnir [General egnigem cenia card]
Your Char: same item

EpicNPC: +5 Lord Kaho's Horn - Has a Custom Sprite
Your Char: +5 Sakura Coronet Kaho

Now, your storage:

EpicNPC: +9 Lich's bone wand [x2 drops card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Lucieus's fierce armor of volcano [Ktullanux card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Saphien's armor of ocean [ none card ]
Your Storage: same item [no card]

EpicNPC: +4 Aebecee's raging typhoon armor [Marc card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Claytos cracking earth armor [ none card ]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +7 Odin blessing [Bathory card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: Sandals [Zombie prisoner card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Skin of ventoss [Whisper card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Mantle [Porcellio card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Diablos manteau [Deviling card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: Evil wing ears [bloody knight card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: Ice ear wing [mistress card]
Your Storage: same item

EpicNPC: +4 Naght seiger twin blade(R) [x3 Sword guardian card]
Your Storage: same item

You're still saying those items aren't yours?

Pretty sure I have 80-90% of all the items on the EpicNPC post here by only manually checking your Champion and Storage.

Again: no one except you had access to your account. Nobody else has logged into it. Nobody else could have known your exact items.

[Azura5437]

You're still saying those items aren't yours?

Pretty sure I have 80-90% of all the items on the EpicNPC post here by only manually checking your Champion and Storage.

Am i the only one in the server that have these items ?

[DeePee]

Yes. You are indeed the only person who has all these exact same items with the exact same cards, refine rates, et cetera.

[Azura5437]

Yes. You are indeed the only person who has all these exact same items with the exact same cards, refine rates, et cetera.

Proxy + diablo man in the server is slot with deviling , as the same as suiken 3x tg.
GTB SB is normal as the same as Sleip GEC ( anyone playing champion would have that ).
My Mantle [Porcellio card] is not refine and it affix with +flee stone.
Bathory for abbey and dozen of people have it.
Sandals [Zombie prisoner card] any leecher have it.


I also have 3x SG saber , Drake dex rod. I also have a custom cat bell not a normal one. I have seal essences on my BS too. I have HP HW CHAMPION SNIPER BS STALKER not just 3 characters.
There is more Formal suit not carded that i affixed my stone in it and few of armors that i haven't refine it yet. I also have a golden dragon costumes which is high price and if i am the one selling my own ID i could use it to lure in a lot of buyer , i mean if i am the one i already statue most of my items already , why not at all ?
I got a lot of things that could be sold and lure a lot of buyer if i am going to do it. Why don't i write it down all of it if i going to sell it anyway
Most of items in my storage is not a potion but in fact a lot of quest , event items. Pet taming is one of the most there.
If you check my log in activities this is not my first time that i logging in after have not been online for a long time too.

[DeePee]

Again: nobody except you has all these items.

[Azura5437]

Again: nobody except you has all these items.

Proxy + diablo man in the server is slot with deviling , as the same as suiken 3x tg.
GTB SB is normal as the same as Sleip GEC ( anyone playing champion would have that ).
My Mantle [Porcellio card] is not refine and it affix with +flee stone.
Bathory for abbey and dozen of people have it.
Sandals [Zombie prisoner card] any leecher have it.


I also have 3x SG saber , Drake dex rod. I also have a custom cat bell not a normal one. I have seal essences on my BS too. I have HP HW CHAMPION SNIPER BS STALKER not just 3 characters.
There is more Formal suit not carded that i affixed my stone in it and few of armors that i haven't refine it yet. I also have a golden dragon costumes which is high price and if i am the one selling my own ID i could use it to lure in a lot of buyer , i mean if i am the one i already statue most of my items already , why not at all ?
I got a lot of things that could be sold and lure a lot of buyer if i am going to do it. Why don't i write it down all of it if i going to sell it anyway
Most of items in my storage is not a potion but in fact a lot of quest , event items. Pet taming is one of the most there.
If you check my log in activities this is not my first time that i logging in after have not been online for a long time too.

There is a ton of ppl in the server that have more than these items you statue and i knew them.
Can you show me a solid evidence that " i am the only one that have these exact items in the server , nothing more or less than the statue " ? Does it mean i have it and nobody else cannot have it ?
Prove it that i am the only one and only one in the TalonRO which have exact items , nothing more or less than the statue.

I try to statue my all items which is not the same in that thread here. Which make a different already.

PS. more than that Boreas said that i already log in before that thread about selling my ID happens , which mean i already check all of my items and i should not miss any of it. If i am the one selling it that's it.

PS2. My valhalla SQI is not free. I have already used my HP to start progress on Evangelist already. I also have +10 main guiche on my BS and few of SQIs too. I sold off my Fang of garm at the day i was banned to make up some zeny too , which can tell you that i am playing TalonRo right that time and i don't know that thread is happening at all.

[Azura5437]

Still Seiren , this does not prove that i am the only one that have all exact items. You just prove that i am one of the player that have nearly the same items that statue up in the server.

And this does not change the fact that Boreas lying about location information either.

1) None solid prove that the person at that thread is me. Your coincidence time is the only prove you have and it is not even in the same format for everyone , which is not 100% accurate.
2) None solid prove that i doing anything suspicious on the server in the meantime. None real money trading has ever pop up in my chat log or any crime in the server. I dare you check all my log that record on the server since the day i started.
3) You GMs prove it by the item list which i try to prove it too. My opinion is invalid but urs is always right. You have all the records back-up ( or you said in your server ad ) so i simply ask you that you " Prove it that i am the only one and only one in the TalonRO which have exact items , nothing more or less than the statue " , " Prove it that i sold my ID myself " because i know i did not do it and there is nothing you can find to blame me.

While

1) I show you already that location information is wrong from you GMs opinion. With a solid evidence with a lot of pictures.
2) I try to tell you all of my left-over which no one could possibly know and not even statue in that thread.
3) I ask for your prove that you will never find one since it never exits. If you still insisting that " i am the one that commit the crime " then you need a prove , a solid one.

Even i'm banned but i'm not doing anything wrong. You GMs just have the power in that server of yours , but not here.

[Innomite]

Man, there's no use in ranting 'nemore, just leave that server. They deny the fact that everyone can make up a false account and you probably gave your equips information to someone who was jealous of you, therefore this. So it's half your fault, half theirs.

OR, you probably made that thread and since you got caught, your ego couldn't handle the OH-THE-HUMILLIATION. But that doesn't neglect the fact that Boreas is still an --removed--.

Also yeah, Seiren should have taken that case since he was the one who banned you, wasn't he? : ^)

99% of the Rant and Rave topics are a waste of time.

Yep, Triper was here.

[Yourstyle]

Like it's a huge loss to be banned on TalonRO.

[Xarale]

Well.  Let's have a review of the facts presented so far.

1) The two locations, Uppsala and Bromma.  OP, you claim to be from Uppsala, so the fact the location shows as Bromma can't be you right?  Wrong.  Thanks to Google Maps, I worked out that the distance between Uppsala (your actual location) and Bromma (the location shown on the EpicNPC profile) is 43.3 miles.  Now, I live in a small town called Bude, and yet my location is often always shown as Plymouth, which is 44 miles away.  The fact that the location of the EpicNPC account shows Bromma, does not automatically mean it cannot be you.  The mere fact that you and this EpicNPC profile both happen to be from Sweden (and within 43 miles too!) is quite suspicious in itself.

2) Seiren kindly presented us with an exact list of items posted up on EpicNPC, and compared them with the items in your inventory/storage, and behold - It's a perfect match!  Now, you can argue that various other players on Talon may have the same items as you, and maybe you're right.. some players might have a few of the items on that list.  But what are the chances of other players having each and every single one of those items with the exact same cards and exact same refine rates?  I'd say extremely slim.  Furthermore as Seiren said, the person on EpicNPC cannot be framing you since no one would know every single piece of gear/cards/refine rates you have but yourself.

3) As Boreas mentioned, the person on the EpicNPC account suddenly logged in just 1 minute after Boreas provided you with a link to the EpicNPC thread.  Now, if this was the only suspicious fact, then it could probably be deemed as mere coincidence.  That's not the case here though, as we have the two points mentioned above as well to consider. 

Sorry OP, but when you add up all three points together, I don't see these as mere coincidences.  If you can provide any sort evidence to prove otherwise, then by all means please post it here on this thread.  Otherwise, you can't really blame the GMs for thinking you're guilty.

-X.

[Azura5437]

Well.  Let's have a review of the facts presented so far.

1) The two locations, Uppsala and Bromma.  OP, you claim to be from Uppsala, so the fact the location shows as Bromma can't be you right?  Wrong.  Thanks to Google Maps, I worked out that the distance between Uppsala (your actual location) and Bromma (the location shown on the EpicNPC profile) is 43.3 miles.  Now, I live in a small town called Bude, and yet my location is often always shown as Plymouth, which is 44 miles away.  The fact that the location of the EpicNPC account shows Bromma, does not automatically mean it cannot be you.  The mere fact that you and this EpicNPC profile both happen to be from Sweden (and within 43 miles too!) is quite suspicious in itself.

2) Seiren kindly presented us with an exact list of items posted up on EpicNPC, and compared them with the items in your inventory/storage, and behold - It's a perfect match!  Now, you can argue that various other players on Talon may have the same items as you, and maybe you're right.. some players might have a few of the items on that list.  But what are the chances of other players having each and every single one of those items with the exact same cards and exact same refine rates?  I'd say extremely slim.  Furthermore as Seiren said, the person on EpicNPC cannot be framing you since no one would know every single piece of gear/cards/refine rates you have but yourself.

3) As Boreas mentioned, the person on the EpicNPC account suddenly logged in just 1 minute after Boreas provided you with a link to the EpicNPC thread.  Now, if this was the only suspicious fact, then it could probably be deemed as mere coincidence.  That's not the case here though, as we have the two points mentioned above as well to consider. 

Sorry OP, but when you add up all three points together, I don't see these as mere coincidences.  If you can provide any sort evidence to prove otherwise, then by all means please post it here on this thread.  Otherwise, you can't really blame the GMs for thinking you're guilty.

-X.

You know what , this is something i really want to hear from a High GM from TalonRO or someone that involve in the case.
I just want to say thank you and i will prove and answer everything you ask up here straightly.

1) The position does not prove that i am totally unguilty , but it prove about Boreas fact that he claim that "the location can only be seen by me" which he assumed that i am the one that selling my ID which is not true. Anyone can see it.

Now let me borrow your sentences. You said yourself " Now, I live in a small town called Bude, and yet my location is often always shown as Plymouth, which is 44 miles away. ".
This also prove it that what " Boreas " said about location will only show the location where you live in is not right at all.
* referring to this words he answered me in support ticket which clearly said he mention it up *

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Why do Boreas need to fake up about that location thing ? and if by any chances i don't know about this and its totally show somewhere i am nearby like that , now the case is High GM lying to me. It cause an uncertain fact and i don't want to believe anything any longer but myself.

True that the fact that the location is not an exact position , but it is not true with the fact that it is always the same location for a viewer. With this said i doubt High GM.

2) The item lists is not a perfect match which i also prove with the same kind of evidence as Seiren statue up. Let me quote it.

I also have 3x SG saber , Drake dex rod. I also have a custom cat bell not a normal one. I have seal essences on my BS too. I have HP HW CHAMPION SNIPER BS STALKER not just 3 characters.
There is more Formal suit not carded that i affixed my stone in it and few of armors that i haven't refine it yet. I also have a golden dragon costumes which is high price and if i am the one selling my own ID i could use it to lure in a lot of buyer , i mean if i am the one i already statue most of my items already , why not at all ?
I got a lot of things that could be sold and lure a lot of buyer if i am going to do it. Why don't i write it down all of it if i going to sell it anyway
Most of items in my storage is not a potion but in fact a lot of quest , event items. Pet taming is one of the most there.
If you check my log in activities this is not my first time that i logging in after have not been online for a long time too.

http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/622472-Selling-TalonRo-account

There is more to add.
My platinum shield is +5 and that thread mention it was +4.
I don't have clip teleport but in fact it is Ring teleport that i have.
About PCB i have a custom one and that thread did not mention anything.
As for Mantle [Porcellio card] , my Mantle also affixed with enhanced stone +flee rate on it.

Seiren does not input everything i have here but in fact , input everything that they find its the same in the lists on that thread here instead.
And yes this is really slim for my helping hand but it can't be deny that these items that mention there is not exactly the same as mine.
It is also true that " IF by any chances " i am the one selling my own ID and i might make this up to escape from GM investigation. But why bother do something risky like type down everything i have to lure GM in to ban me ? I can just write down " I got a lot of super SQI and expensive items on the server for sell " instead.

More than that Boreas said that i already log in before that thread about selling my ID happens , which mean i already check all of my items and i should not miss any of it. If i am the one selling it that's it.
Futhermore my valhalla SQI is not free. I have already used my HP to start progress on Evangelist already. I also have +10 main guiche on my BS and few of SQIs too. I sold off my Fang of garm at the day i was banned to make up some zeny too , which can tell you that i am playing TalonRo right that time and i don't know that thread is happening at all. Buying and selling log should also recorded on the server.

3) The time format for everyone is not the same(i found this out after Boreas mention it and look it up myself by compare the result i saw and the one Boreas gave me) How can you judging by that ?

This is my answers.
If you found any doubt about me just ask directly and i will answer my best fairs-fairs here.

PS. The more suspicious about that thread is it only create 1 thread and nothing more. Does this not bug anyone at all ?

[Boreas]

I figured you were talking about a feature on SMF boards which shows the IP/hostname on the lower right bottom of the topic to admins and the person itself. I later saw that button and that it's a different board software, I didn't make that up, I was simply wrong on that one.

As for the items you mentioned, I just checked them again and found a Mantle with Porcellio Card in your storage for example.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve with this topic. Nobody except for a handful of RMS people will read it and it won't get you unbanned either. We say that thread is yours, you say it's not. In the end you are banned and that won't change.

I don't get why we all waste our time here arguing, we should just drop it. There is enough evidence that you are guilty

[Azura5437]

I figured you were talking about a feature on SMF boards which shows the IP/hostname on the lower right bottom of the topic to admins and the person itself. I later saw that button and that it's a different board software, I didn't make that up, I was simply wrong on that one.

As for the items you mentioned, I just checked them again and found a Mantle with Porcellio Card in your storage for example.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve with this topic. Nobody except for a handful of RMS people will read it and it won't get you unbanned either. We say that thread is yours, you say it's not. In the end you are banned and that won't change.

I don't get why we all waste our time here arguing, we should just drop it. There is enough evidence that you are guilty

It is a differently story when you going to judge someone with a mislead proof and admit it afterward that you are wrong. You already make a judgement with a false proof and you can't deny that.

And this does not made for you to unban me or make myself unban either. I just simply answer Xarale , that's it.
Why should i drop it now ? are you afraid of your misjudging to be show on the surface or something ?

Ps. AND if you just check my storage you must saw it that there is a lot of items that haven't been statue up in that thread and why don't you bring it up at all ?

Ps2. Oh and by the god sake... i don't even know how many webboard that is framing me right now. Why don't you tell this to me at all ? I'm screw right now since i don't even know how my information was leaked out that much. I simply knew that it is only that thread you send to me and now you are telling me you found another one on a different board too ? WOW! really ?

[Boreas]

It is a differently story when you going to judge someone with mislead proof and admit it afterward that you are wrong. You already make a judgement with a false proof and you can't deny that.

And this does not made for you to unban me or make myself unban either. I just simply answer Xarale , that's it.
Why should i drop it now ? are you afraid of your misjudging to be show on the surface or something ?

Ps. AND if you just check my storage you must saw it that there is a lot of items that haven't been statue up in that thread and why don't you bring it up at all ?

I am not afraid of anything. The itemlist is matching with only one account on our server and that's yours. No other account has all of those items. The characters are matching as well, just that two may not be mentioned for whatever reason.

Now why are some items and characters missing on the list you ask? Well, the last sentence says that you are offering items worth more than 2000m zeny. Where does it say that you posted a complete list of everything you own? Nowhere, exactly. So how does that prove anything at all. You logged in after a month and made a list of the most valuable items to post up that thread. More details and screenshots can be tossed via PM, I don't think that needs a complete list before.

So your story is that someone, who happens to live close to you and never logged on your account, compiled a semi-complete list of your items to post them on that board in order to get you banned. My story is that you came back after a break and tried to sell your account for money. Now what makes more sense when you read over it? That plus our investigation is already enough to ban you. You do not have to accept that of course, doesn't mean we are wrong tho.

[Azura5437]

I am not afraid of anything. The itemlist is matching with only one account on our server and that's yours. No other account has all of those items. The characters are matching as well, just that two may not be mentioned for whatever reason.

Now why are some items and characters missing on the list you ask? Well, the last sentence says that you are offering items worth more than 2000m zeny. Where does it say that you posted a complete list of everything you own? Nowhere, exactly. So how does that prove anything at all. You logged in after a month and made a list of the most valuable items to post up that thread. More details and screenshots can be tossed via PM, I don't think that needs a complete list before.

So your story is that someone, who happens to live close to you and never logged on your account, compiled a semi-complete list of your items to post them on that board in order to get you banned. My story is that you came back after a break and tried to sell your account for money. Now what makes more sense when you read over it? That plus our investigation is already enough to ban you. You do not have to accept that of course, doesn't mean we are wrong tho.

You just admit that you have a wrong point in your investigate , Boreas. How can a mistake be a true fact ?

The character that even not mention up cannot be excuse by " whatever reason " Boreas. Do you think i know why it is not even mention there ?
I also saw that 2000m statue up and does that mean that i am the exactly one  that write that up too ? If you are going to mention that. Of course it does not prove anything.(or i am missing something and you can please kindly mention it for me)
And this is not the first time i logged in after a month and why don't you bring that up too ? you know this fact clearly by checking up the log.

I did not said that someone in my country do it. If you ask me i am thinking about proxy or something that currently fake up the position right now or it could be someone in my country which i can't possibly know and which is why i ask for a help from you GMs and you always deny to help me.
You just try to force it that it MUST BE ONLY ME.

And yes you are totally wrong since you already admit it that yourselves. If your information about location is wrong it can meant that the person there can be anyone from anywhere , doesn't it ? which also make my conclusion wrong too about location. But it still does not prove that it is exactly me , but it will become even wider.

PS. about No other account has all of those items.
You mention that it is not my exactly full list mention up by the excuse of 2000m worth you statue up. Doesn't this can simply mean that the lists is also a fake ?
This mean the one that start up that thread can have more or less items that mention up there too. Which this fact it simply tell me that item lists does not prove anything at all.

[Boreas]

You are not banned for the location alone, but rather for that matching item and character list. Oo Okay, then we ignore the fact that this topic was created from Sweden.

Your logins btw:

2014-05-21
2014-04-16
2014-03-04

So, uhm, you came here after a month and shortly after that thread was created. Not sure what you mean with "And this is not the first time i logged in after a month and why don't you bring that up too". It was the first time after a month. Still is. Always has been.

[Azura5437]

You are not banned for the location alone, but rather for that matching item and character list. Oo Okay, then we ignore the fact that this topic was created from Sweden.

Your logins btw:

2014-05-21
2014-04-16
2014-03-04

So, uhm, you came here after a month and shortly after that thread was created. Not sure what you mean with "And this is not the first time i logged in after a month and why don't you bring that up too". It was the first time after a month. Still is. Always has been.

Items and characters is not matching at all and you are the one mention it by "whatever reason" you statue up.

Please clarify more of this too. What's is strange about logged in each time a month ?
(and does a thread like that created every each month too ? and you never tell me about it ?)

There is a time i am usually active too shows all of my logged in log by all means. So we can see everything.

[Boreas]

You know what, keep arguing with the people on RMS. I told you why you were banned and we will not unban your accounts.

Let me list the facts again:
- The itemlist is matching.
- The characters are matching.
- Same location as yours.
- Thread was created shortly after your first login after a month of inactivity.
- 'Last Activity' time of the poster was updated right after I posted you the link to the thread and again after I posted you a link to the profile.

Good luck finding another server / game / whatever.

Regards,
Boreas

[Azura5437]

You know what, keep arguing with the people on RMS. I told you why you were banned and we will not unban your accounts.

Let me list the facts again:
- The itemlist is matching.
- The characters are matching.
- Same location as yours.
- Thread was created shortly after your first login after a month of inactivity.
- 'Last Activity' time of the poster was updated right after I posted you the link to the thread and again after I posted you a link to the profile.

Good luck finding another server / game / whatever.

Regards,
Boreas

Now you refuse to give me a full logged in log and tell me to forget about location fact which you have it wrong ?

Let me tell you over again that i did not start this because i want you to unban me. I start this because of your mistake judgement.

- The itemlist is matching.

It is not exactly matching.
After i sit down and think clearly it does match my "OLD" item lists if you are still saying it is matching them , then by all means type all items in my present account here(pictures will be better since it much more solid and if you fake up anything on my ID i can prove it) and we will compare it with the lists that on that thread with everyone here not just you guys , GMs of TalonRo. When i said all i mean exactly all and must be all.
If you can't do that much then don't try to force this " matching " since you have no solid proof.

- The characters are matching.

You said this yourself ::

The characters are matching as well, just that two may not be mentioned for whatever reason.

This mean 2 (or more) is missing and i can statue it. Can you give any good reason(s) behind this fact ?
( High priest and Stalker is a basic class that make your life become much easier in TalonRo , but Champion is of course not.
Again this does not prove anything since most of people in TalonRo have these kind of characters too.
Sniper that is not mention in that thread and i got it is a basic choice to start playing RO on every server too , but well i started with Sage and HP though.
High wizard works like a charm at abbey and it is easy to lvl , of course it does not statue up in that thread but i know i have it and my HW can borrow my HP gear directly which mean it is not hard to create one at all.
1 Blacksmith for vendor , well this is just simple for anyone. I even have a merchant on other ID which i also follow your rules exactly and make it in 1 Forum account
If i remember correctly i have a Prof too(if i haven't change her to other class with TC yet) )

- Same location as yours.

You said ::

I didn't make that up, I was simply wrong on that one.

You just admitted it that your location information was wrong. How can you keep up on something that is totally wrong like this ? and by which proof do you have to statue that it is a same location ?(since you already said that you look on a wrong board)

By Xarale helps about location which prove that the location does not prove exactly anything. But at very least it prove that your location information is wrong " Boreas " and if you bring that up it is still a false information.

- Thread was created shortly after your first login after a month of inactivity.

You are the one that show everyone here about my activities of this years(only) ::

Your logins btw:

2014-05-21
2014-04-16
2014-03-04

I simply ask you what strange with this ? and is a thread like that keep appears after i logging in month after month ?
You did not answer.

For your question i forget to clarify it.
"Not sure what you mean with "And this is not the first time i logged in after a month and why don't you bring that up too". It was the first time after a month. Still is. Always has been."
And yeah what is so weird about it ? since my log in activities is exactly like you show me here. What's about it that is odd ? Does a thread like that keep happening after since ? and i didn't even know it and you guys never told me about it.

What i was saying is isn't that my normally activities that i log in every month ? and isn't fact that i just got banned now is more strange ?

- 'Last Activity' time of the poster was updated right after I posted you the link to the thread and again after I posted you a link to the profile.

And i checked that it is not the same time format for me. Can you judging by a randomly activity time that is not the same for everyone ?

Ps. I'm all alone here and it is really no point in struggle if i am the wrong one , but it doesn't seems that way and if i can log into your server again i'm going to screenshot everything and all the items i have and post it here. So everyone here will know about the item lists fact that it is not "exactly the same" as you mention.

Ps2

I am not afraid of anything. The itemlist is matching with only one account on our server and that's yours. No other account has all of those items. The characters are matching as well, just that two may not be mentioned for whatever reason.

Now why are some items and characters missing on the list you ask? Well, the last sentence says that you are offering items worth more than 2000m zeny. Where does it say that you posted a complete list of everything you own? Nowhere, exactly. So how does that prove anything at all. You logged in after a month and made a list of the most valuable items to post up that thread. More details and screenshots can be tossed via PM, I don't think that needs a complete list before.

So your story is that someone, who happens to live close to you and never logged on your account, compiled a semi-complete list of your items to post them on that board in order to get you banned. My story is that you came back after a break and tried to sell your account for money. Now what makes more sense when you read over it? That plus our investigation is already enough to ban you. You do not have to accept that of course, doesn't mean we are wrong tho.

You said it yourself and you try to blame me with this ? while i try to clarify what your GMs statue up and you just keep avoid it.
How can you judge me by the fact that you mention it later to be " So how does that prove anything at all " ?

Ps3

Boldly said right now

- The itemlist is matching.

Does not prove anything and you(Boreas) said it ._.

- The characters are matching.

I refuse that it is all of my characters , you said it missing because of whatever reason.
Which makes more sense when you read over it ?

- Same location as yours.

Xarale proved it that it does not prove exactly anything and you(Boreas) statued it that you have it wrong there.

- Thread was created shortly after your first login after a month of inactivity.

From my normally activities list that you(Boreas) posted it. It was not strange at all. Its every months like usual and i just got banned now while playing normally like before.

- 'Last Activity' time of the poster was updated right after I posted you the link to the thread and again after I posted you a link to the profile.

Time format is not the same for everyone.

Ps4 I still find it odd that 1 thread haven't move an inch after start up ._.

[Wyvern]

There's too many topics like these on rms. All that does is advertise the server, both in a good or bad way. And either way, your account was involved in real money trading, so it's your own fault for either doing it, sharing accounts with other people, or for not using a secure/hard-to-guess password.

[Azura5437]

There's too many topics like these on rms. All that does is advertise the server, both in a good or bad way. And either way, your account was involved in real money trading, so it's your own fault for either doing it, sharing accounts with other people, or for not using a secure/hard-to-guess password.

Again: no one except you had access to your account. Nobody else has logged into it.

So your point here is invalid.

And i explain that it is to keep my security for when something like this happens so i can ask a help from a GM.

Everything is answered in this thread. Please bother read it before reply.

Ps. I have post some of my information in talon webboard but no , i doubt that information in discuss a playstyle would cause this if you mean it was my fault for not secure my ID.

[Triper]

TBH, that geo location thing isn't really something good enough to be trusted. My location shows tons of times as Oporto, Braga or Guimarães and I live near Lisbon in Portugal. You can check google maps, wikipedia or a normal map of Portugal and see that it's tons of KMs away from where I live.

The only prob here is that there are too many common items between topic and character account and in doubt, GMs/Admins prefer to ban as a security even if sometimes they may be wrong at 100%.

[Wyvern]

So your point here is invalid.

And i explain that it is to keep my security for when something like this happens so i can ask a help from a GM.

Everything is answered in this thread. Please bother read it before reply.

Ps. I have post some of my information in talon webboard but no , i doubt that information in discuss a playstyle would cause this if you mean it was my fault for not secure my ID.

If only you had access to it and you were the only one that logged it, that means you did it.

[Azura5437]

If only you had access to it and you were the only one that logged it, that means you did it.

You did not bother read at all. ( not to mention that you have none proof , everything is from your assumption )
Please don't just comment out of blue. If you want to blame someone you need a solid proof to show that the one you blame really did it.

TBH, that geo location thing isn't really something good enough to be trusted. My location shows tons of times as Oporto, Braga or Guimarães and I live near Lisbon in Portugal. You can check google maps, wikipedia or a normal map of Portugal and see that it's tons of KMs away from where I live.

The only prob here is that there are too many common items between topic and character account and in doubt, GMs/Admins prefer to ban as a security even if sometimes they may be wrong at 100%.

About location , what i tried to point out is this.

This is what Boreas said as he made his judgement. So this shows that the GMs use a wrong information about location to make a judgement.


@Xalare and @Triper you said that the location information is not something that can be trusted. I didn't say that this totally help me about my location but i try to mention what GMs team have it wrong here before they banned me.

Afterward Boreas mention that they have it wrong (after banned me) and from Xalare information the location is not accurate plus with Triper , the reply you just add up tell me that location can be confusing since it shows a totally different position.

So , now the only fact they used to banned me and it is kinda solid to use as a proof is

The only prob here is that there are too many common items between topic and character account and in doubt, GMs/Admins prefer to ban as a security even if sometimes they may be wrong at 100%.

As i already explained , GMs choose to show what is match the lists but not choose to show everything that is currently presents on my present ID. Let me statue it again.

What is not on the lists , totally off the lists and Talon GMs didn't mention it here.(and they clearly know that i have it)

3x Sg Saber
Drake Card affixed in Dex Rod
Enhanced Formal suit free slot
Golden dragon costume
My PCB is customed from a normal one
My +4 Mantle [Porcellio card] is enhanced with +Flee status which also different from than normal one
My platinum shield is +5 and that thread mention it was +4
I don't have "Clip creamy" but in fact it is "Ring creamy" that i have

And more that is not even mentioned here.

I admit that it does looks familiar to my "OLD" item lists but if we compare with my present lists many things is off.(not just mention up some things)
When i tried to use the same kind of evidence to prove my guilty as GMs did(use item lists as a proof) Boreas simply ignore it by this fact i quoted under. ( and i can use it too. To ask back "how does item lists prove anything at all ?" if high GM mention it himself that it does not prove anything.)

Now why are some items and characters missing on the list you ask? Well, the last sentence says that you are offering items worth more than 2000m zeny. Where does it say that you posted a complete list of everything you own? Nowhere, exactly. So how does that prove anything at all.

This tell me that same kind of evidence does not work the same. They judged by how they like and others opinions are always invalid.

Ps. @Triper I can understand about ban as a security , but not banned without a probably investigation and none solid evidence to show me.
In the server GMs words/judgement is of course absolute , but not here where everyone is equally.

Ps.2 About characters , Boreas said that it is by "whatever reason" fact which does not explained anything.

I'd says because i haven't play my HW , Prof and Sniper for a long time so no ones know about them and can't mention it up. The only classes that mention up is the one i usually playing.

[DeePee]

I'd just like to add that you were not banned at all because of your location. Fact is that the item evidence is 99% correct. The uniqueness, the combination, the refining, the carding of those items is undeniable. You mention that you didn't mention some items: sure, I wouldn't know every item I own either. For sure I can make a few mistakes when typing them out or missing some items I had.

We only found out after you mentioned it that both the seller on that topic and you are from Sweden. So that only fortifies things more. Especially because we barely even have any players from Sweden.

[Azura5437]

I'd just like to add that you were not banned at all because of your location. Fact is that the item evidence is 99% correct. The uniqueness, the combination, the refining, the carding of those items is undeniable. You mention that you didn't mention some items: sure, I wouldn't know every item I own either. For sure I can make a few mistakes when typing them out or missing some items I had.

We only found out after you mentioned it that both the seller on that topic and you are from Sweden. So that only fortifies things more. Especially because we barely even have any players from Sweden.

Thanks for being more reasoning and argue with a proof you have.

Now i am even more confused about location. As for Xalare and Triper information tell me a totally different position is shows to them( Xalare says about 40 miles and Triper mention that it is far than that , but eventually they are both still shows that it is from the same country , but that still doesn't work for everyone like in Boreas case which show a totally different result ( or as he statue it is wrong board or something... )

I know some player from Sweden and yes they are really few of them , but right now location information is not trusted and many here said the same. We can still use it but it is not accurate.(i only use it to prove your GMs team judgement right now as you statue this as one of your judgement which is a wrong information)

Spoiler

[close]

From the item lists you said this

Fact is that the item evidence is 99% correct. The uniqueness, the combination, the refining, the carding of those items is undeniable. You mention that you didn't mention some items: sure, I wouldn't know every item I own either. For sure I can make a few mistakes when typing them out or missing some items I had.

But also before hand you GMs already check that i am online in your server at that day you banned me(By the online time information Boreas gave me). This mean i have a perfect access to all of my items(i can view everything i have right that time without relying my memories) Isn't that weird that i still missing some lists even i have a 100% access to them all ?

Most of items that is turn out to be correct is most owned by most of players in TalonRO(a common item) Let me copy it all here

Spoiler

Headgears:
+5 Lord Kaho's Horn - Has a Custom Sprite ( i am not the only one who have it )
Jaguar Hat ( no , seriously )
Angel wing ears [incubus card] ( yes this one is unique )
Evil wing ears [bloody knight card] ( no , not my exclusive item )
Ice ear wing [mistress card] ( this maybe unique but still some of players does have this too )
PCB ( i have a custom one , did not mention here )
Gangster scraf ( not unique )
Gentleman's pipe ( not unique )
Pirate dagger ( not unique )
Few of unique fashion costumes ( i don't know about this but yes i have a lot of fashion costume )

Armors:
+4 Lucieus's fierce armor of volcano [Ktullanux card] ( not unique )
+4 Saphien's armor of ocean [ none card ] ( no... ? )
+4 Aebecee's raging typhoon armor [Marc card] ( the player that once try to hunt SK with LK have it and i know at least one person who have it )
+4 Claytos cracking earth armor [ none card ] ( i don't know about this one , maybe unique ? )
+4 Diablos Robe [Gloom under night card] ( this is absolutely not unique , but it is few of them in the server , yes )
+4 Mantle [Porcellio card] ( this is unique unless mine is enhanced with +Flee status )
+7 Silk robe [Evil druid card] ( no this is not unique )
+7 Odin blessing [Bathory card] ( not unique obviously )
+8 Odin blessing [Garm card] ( this is unique or well i can't really says )

Shields:
+4 Guard [Maya card] ( nope )
+4 Platinum shield ( mine is +5 )
+4 Valkyrja shield [Alice card] ( not unique )
+7 Stone buckler [Golden thief bug] ( oh no not this one too )

Garments:
+4 Skin of ventoss [Whisper card] ( this might be unique since everyone using dragon set instead )
+4 Diablos manteau [Deviling card] ( no )
+4 Proxy skin fragment [Deviling card] ( and no )

Footgear:
Sandals [Zombie prisoner card] ( leecher have it )
+4 Sleipnir [General egnigem cenia card] ( no , this is not unique )

Weapon:
+4 Suiken [x3 Turtle general card] ( normal one , few of this exits but not entirely unique )
+4 Naght seiger twin blade(R) [x3 Sword guardian card] ( i can't says for this one since i don't know , i bought it back when i was playing )
+9 Lich's bone wand [x2 drops card] ( not unique , but people prefer rental ring set better )

Accessories:
1 Megingjard ( not unique )
1 Brisingamen [Sting card] ( not unique )
1 Clip [Creamy card] ( i don't have this , i have Ring Creamy which is more unique and i believe i am th%e only one in the server that have Ring Creamy )

It unique because it statue 1 meg&bris , but my Ring Creamy is also unique and no one possibly know about it ( no one in right mind put creamy in Ring slot and it is not just a make up too because my Ring Creamy exits for a very long time in my own ID. This is some what a minor proof that the one that is selling my ID right now don't have a full access to my items(plus it with characters lists)

A lot more is missing that is not mention in the lists and i already mention them in the previous reply.

[close]

Now count it ?

Spoiler

Unique items
Angel wing ears [incubus card]
+4 Mantle [Porcellio card] ( slightly different )
+8 Odin blessing [Garm card] ( not sure )
+4 Skin of ventoss [Whisper card] ( not sure )

My unique that no one possibly know (and they can't possibly mention it)
1 Clip [Creamy card] ( i don't have this but Ring Creamy )

[close]

Then same goes for " it is not a full item lists ". The one create the thread might not show his full item lists too which can mean item lists does not prove anything at all again.
But you GMs choose it and i go with it too , so i tried what others couldn't possibly know about my unique items here. Please don't ignore it.

Ps. If you plus an item that i statue up in this thread on the previous reply i typed in and count it in too you can clearly see that it is not 99% accurate at all.(not even near)

[sinxboy]

dude, @azure. All I can say is that your really in rage. I don't blame you. It's very hard to be banned and having all those stuffs. If this was a trial court. And your only argument and evidences is that Boreas got wrong and was also confused about the location thingy. Then you have a very high chance to succeed and plead not guilty. But the thing is you were not banned because of the location. Forget about the location blah blah. The main reason you were banned is because of the items displayed which you say almost all players has it. Dude in probability and statistics. I'll explain this to you.
(with same items, refine and cards)
1-5 items = You have a strong case to plea not guilty and get your account back.
5-10 items = lets say a 50% chance to win.
10-15 items = say 10% chance to win
15-20+ items = Find a new server to play.

dude. There are 20+ items mentioned that are in your belongings. Thats not coincidence anymore. And your saying you still have alot of items. Maybe you still have alot of items. I also have alot of items and if it was posted here it would take lots of pages. And if your only argument now is that Boreas is not a good GM and doesn't know how to reply to banned people as yourself maybe you still have a chance to prove it. But as for your account. Nothing could be done for it IMO.

[ggwp]

How to get someone banned on Talon Ro :

- Get close to that person
- Ask what equipment that person use on several characters
- Use proxy with same country as that person
- Make thread selling Talon Ro accounts with that equipment list you ask before
- Hope some High GM see that thread
- Another ID banned on Talon Ro

[Playtester]

How to get someone banned on Talon Ro :

- Get close to that person
- Ask what equipment that person use on several characters
- Use proxy with same country as that person
- Make thread selling Talon Ro accounts with that equipment list you ask before
- Hope some High GM see that thread
- Another ID banned on Talon Ro

You might as well just report the person yourself! Better than just hope.

[Boreas]

I guess you also hand out your debit card and the pin to a stranger and complain afterwards that he spent your money, am I right? Troll more please.