sevenRO Admin

James Bong · Jan 09, 2012, 09:49 PM

Not entirely sure if this is the right section, couldn't find the good ol' hall of shame.
Alright thing is i've started on the server today(i knew the admin from his old server BlazeRO) but that's beside the point.
Me and a friend of mine were talking in prontera (granted we were kidding about a custom title "Sturmstaffel" since the server supports custom titles), which was the only thing we said which could've been taken to heart by anyone, he told me he'd ban me for it but went afk. we kept on talking and suddenly i got my account blocked(no warning whatsoever).
I can live with this but what follows now is simply ridiculous, he banned my friend with the sole reasoning of him using "[email protected]" which means "f*[email protected]" to register his account.

this is all the proof i could get at this time, sadly it's in german but i hope someone will verify my translation on the matter

INTERIORKROKODIL: why did i get blocked now?
Versus: you won't give up croco?
Versus: because i'm not in the mood for nazi s***
INTERIORKROKODIL: was that a mac adress block
INTERIORKROKODIL: or ip range?
Versus: and your friend who's using emails here as if he's mentally disturbed
INTERIORKROKODIL: lol
INTERIORKROKODIL: who cares about the email?
Versus :me
INTERIORKROKODIL: that'll be a nice review on rms(actually im too lazy to do a full review kind of misphrased that)
Versus: not in the mood for rtl niveau (rtl is a tv channel showing s*** only)
Versus: yeah go ahead that's worth it to me if you're gone then
INTERIORKROKODIL: i hope it'll help you
INTERIORKROKODIL: i will...

TL;DR ADMIN MIGHT BAN U FOR USING AN EMAIL WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED OFFENSIVE TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT

Aurora™ · Jan 09, 2012, 10:32 PM

I must say, I've seen owners ban for a lot less, but that does suck. I'm sorry to hear you and your friend went through that.

It is pretty weird. A German owner talking about his German players being nazis because they use slightly vulgar words, which aren't even that bad compared to what they could be. That's kind of funny, in a way. Not only the part that he's German and insulting his own nation by using the term Nazi for someone that's German, when being German doesn't even insinuate that.

Chemical Crush · Jan 10, 2012, 02:48 AM

I find it ironic that he is freely using the word Nazi yet look at this

http://forum.ratemyserver.net/rant-and-rave/sevenro-banned-before-the-opening/

Lol?

Second 'rant and rave' post i've seen about this server, Admin seems pretty incompetent. But as Aurora said, I've seen/heard of people being banned for even more ridiculous reasons. But why ban a player cause of his email? How is that affecting the community or anything? Oh well, just find a better server, believe me there are a ton out there with a more competent admin/gm team.

Sorry to hear what you went through though =/

Mind · Jan 10, 2012, 04:23 AM

Its sad that this had happened to you. But honestly, there are by far better servers around

I also got banned by Balmung/Versus because a friend of mine had an argument with him

When I asked why I got banned, I got the answer that he doesn't want people like him on the server and if I'm his friend, then I shall get the *** out of his server as well

I mean, being banned for only being a friend of whom he doesn't like is reason enough.

Versus · Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM

both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so

if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.

i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.

rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great!

Strudel · Jan 10, 2012, 10:09 AM

screenshot or it didn't happen.
I can read german and from what I've seen up there in the picture which was, very small. But readable, you didn't seem to care at all. And banning somebody for their e-mail, that's very mature. Especially because nobody but you or other GM's with the right level can see them.

Triper · Jan 10, 2012, 11:05 AM

RTL was so good in the past ): Good kid years I had watching it and RTL2 later on q.q[/offtopic]

WOOOOOOOOOW that's what I call a retarded admin.
So people now can't have stupid mails because it offends the admin? That's new to me

Even if it was a char name it would be stupid since is just a retarded/rage name and the mail is hidden to players anyway...

Mind · Jan 10, 2012, 02:24 PM

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.

No lie

It happened on BlazeRo. hm few months ago. and it seems like you dont remember, since you banned like your whole server during your rage periods.

I could have made an report on rms forums long ago, and I do have everything saved - and Im sure now youre crying for the screens. Dont worry. Im sure I'll make use of them when theres more reports of you coming in or when you open your next 3.0 server. Well, a server who generally copies everything from epicro.

http://epicro.de/page/index.php?location=gold_coin_angebote#donationliste

http://www.sevenro.eu/index.php?content=goldcoinsystem

suprisingly close. But Im amazed - You finally managed it to change a few headgears and values. Not like on your old blazero, when you fully copied the whole sheet

Good luck Versus/Balmung. Looking forward for more reports of you coming in.

Versus · Jan 10, 2012, 02:45 PM

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Kafra_Shop

you see what i did there

Strudel · Jan 10, 2012, 02:50 PM

Wait doesn't Talon also have this?
But instead they call it Talon Coin.

Lucian · Jan 10, 2012, 04:26 PM

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.

i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned.

rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great!

Theirs a lot of Nazi calling accusations up there, I'd love to see these screenshots posted.

Also, RMS has always been this way.

Mind · Jan 10, 2012, 04:47 PM

Quote from: Strudel on Jan 10, 2012, 02:50 PM
Wait doesn't Talon also have this?
But instead they call it Talon Coin.

its not about the coins

its about the list in general. copied the whole coin prices etc :] but atleast he didnt copy them 1:1 this time, like he did with his blazero server

originality is something rare these days.

Daikido · Jan 10, 2012, 05:32 PM

1/1 Novice with CAPSLOCKNAME is obviously not a serious player.
i would have done the same.

Banning for insults in email-adress is kinda strange...

i want some screens from Versus just to have some fun in this topic

James Bong · Jan 10, 2012, 07:18 PM

Alright, let me clear a few things up here.
I did play on his old server called BlazeRO but by no means did i cheat, actually what i did was tell him about abuseable bugs in his npcs.(apparently if you're finding abuseable bugs and reporting them you're automaticly a cheater, which is pretty hilarious since i was the one who told him to get protection ala harmony heck he even gave me donation gear for finding a bug)
We've not once asked if we could name our guild Sturmstaffel only if it was availible as custom title.
The player who has been with me and got banned for the email has actually played ragnarok the last time 4years ago with me on EbilRO(good old times) so your argument saying he's been with me on BlazeRO is simply BS.
1/1 Novice with CAPSLOCKNAME is obviously what i used to logon via proxy after getting banned without any proper warning whatsoever.
As a matter of fact as i have stated in my OP that i have no problem whatsoever with getting banned myself because of that(even tho it's ridiculous, heck i have a 6year long ragnarok history and his servers are the first where people can't take a few nazi jokes without qqing, guess that's cause they're germans themselfs? i'm german and i have no problem with it.)
the reason i did post this topic was my friend getting banned for using an email address the admin didn't like.
you're apparently as terrible at reading as you are at scripting(anubis daily still bugged reqs trololo).

edit: also the player we were said to fight with was actually someone we've known from 4years back, which was the last time my friend had played ro anywhere, as long as the guy in question is Johnny Logen.

Aurora™ · Jan 10, 2012, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
both of them old players i know from my old server, krokodil was banned on my old server because of wpe while mvping and other stuff like nodelay inside woe.

There's a lot to say about this, but I'll touch on it on a later quote.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
the other player joined with kroko and they kept asking my stuff like why they couldnt name their guild SS (Schutzstaffel). thats a few points they were missing when posting this stuff here right? guess so if i talked to them multiple times before banning them, they told me its just a joke to name them Schutzstaffel. well those jokes suck and i dont want this kind of players inside my server. the point of cheating on my old server just enhance the whole bann.

Schutzstaffel = Protection Squadron. I speak German, and anyone with a crappy google translator can translate this. Sure, it was part of the SS reich, but only someone looking to ban another person would use something from history as an excuse, and throw around accusations of that person being a Nazi, especially after they made it clear they were kidding. Have proof they were being racist or indignant? Show it. However, what you did to them is also considered Cyber Bullying. Pretty major thing. Google it.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
so lets get the facts clear:

both cheated on my old server multiple times.
they asked me to get nazi titles? LOL
they got easy in a fight with other players because of this nazi stuff.

So, the key word here is a past tense word. They cheated on your old server, but you're using that as a backup means? How does that make sense? I definitely think that's a grounds to lose half of your player base. Are you going to ban someone because they said they botted on a completely different server than the one they're currently on? Even if you'd seen it before or banned them for it before, you can't just go around banning people for past offenses. While this is the internet, and your server is your server, there is such a thing as a moral code.

As for your other two points, again. Cyberbullying.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
i have logs and screens from old server, logs and screens from the new one, chatlogs and other stuff i dont want this kind of people there. so yeah good luck finding another server where you can freely joke about nazi stuff. i dont think that people who died in the third reich shouldnt handled that way. there is no joke about schutzstaffel and stuff like this. you should respect history and you should respect all the victims.

edit: oh wait just looked in the old server screenshot folder.

Yeah. I do respect history. I'm a history major. I teach history. And? While bad things happened in history, people joke about it all the time. I'm guessing you've never cracked a racist joke with a friend or something stupid pertaining to the past? What's the point of having history if you can't laugh about it when it becomes history? I make Nazi jokes all the time, and make them with my German friends, whether it's in German or talking about myself acting like a Grammar Nazi, or a Pronunciation Nazi. There's so many ways to joke about stuff in history, and punishing someone for it the most godawful stupid thing I've heard of.

Also, proof please.

Quote from: Versus on Jan 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
how many times did u get jailed because of calling other people "judenbengel" /"jewbrat" and stuff? i count 3 times and you? funny that you see yourself the victim you played like what? 2 weeks on my old server? getting 13 times reported because of nazi stuff...

edit: and mind who are you that you are banned? that should be obviously a lie even the lfserver guy from the other topic made a new account and is playing sevenro. seems like just another troll post. this guys here are the only ones banned. rms forums have changed to something... anyone who gets banned because of his own faults or programs gets here to whine and blackmail a server. great!

Proof please.

Also, RMS has always been a troll and drama center. This isn't news. It's also a community full of people who have enough common sense to decide between a whiny player who got what they deserved, or a corrupt administrator/staff member that did something they probably shouldn't have.