ElariaRO

Started by BestPlayerEver, Jan 08, 2017, 04:09 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Artemsis

Hello there!


Before I go deeper into this topic, Ima tell my experience I had with Elaria Woon RO so far. And yeh, I dont mind writing long stuff, have fun reading ;)

Right ahead, the usual tl;dr:
Spoiler
On a search lookout accidently found this topic, but I've read through it. Must admit it makes me really sad to see how parts of the RO community developed over the years and some aspects became even worse. Elaria is an excellent server imo, period.
[close]


It was back in November 2016, when a friend and me decided out of the sudden, "screw League of Legends, lets give RO again a try!". We both play this game together since 2005 and always appeared on serveral servers here and there over the years. On our first peek in the search for a server we directly found an entry Elaria being advertised.
Usually, we determine our choice of joining or not over these criterias:
-> Q: What are the server's settings/stats/whatsoever? Do they fit with what we are used to play?
-> Q: How is the website / forum designed? Does it show dedication or is it just a copypaste Frontend / InvisionBoard?
-> Q: How is the population? Is it at least 50+ (room for growing, remembers me to VisionRO) or is there no point because its 20+, 18 autovends?
-> Q: Donation level? Paytowin or stuff gainable by normal means?
-> Q: Why this server and not the server listed above/below? Is there something noteworthy we want to see?

In addition, Im an old Woonie from back 2014 as well. Seeing and knowing Nihad's name and his good reputation of getting things done.
So yeah. Elaria went also to our "precheck" and passed. Settings were on point! And I remember me telling Malte on Skype "dude, this website is awesome. Rarely see such a good sorted and designed page. If theres love in it, its also in the server." (basically, that alone already earned bonus points).

QuoteMan, other servers doesn't even have a website that's as pretty as Elaria's. With just that, you'll know that the developers are really into it.
^ this.

Also the donation level looked absolutely mannered and not exaggerated, so yeh. Passed. What took our interest was the instance/player soul system, because I can remember about something like this on ImmortalRO 7 years ago, and hell I loved it. So we waited till opening to join the server.

I clearly remember my first encounter with Daifuku on the server during the first 3 days. I asked over PM about the donation system and how to use it, and the reply surprised and impressed me really. "Whywanna donate? D: Heh, if you are in need of Amber pearls, heck, wait. Ima start an event for the community, maybe you get lucky!" So basically, instead of grabbing my cash on the go (and hell, she could), she became the first admin Ive met so far who "refused" and instead just hosted an event. Lol. No better proof for me to get confirmed why this server. It simply doesnt want to be pay-to-win. Donations are welcome, but not needed or begged for.
In the end, I donated a bit few weeks later anyway, because I wanted to reward it for my conviction about this server. (btw, isnt that the original intention donations were "invented" for?)

QuoteI don't see how you fail to realize that Elaria is run more for the passion than the money. I mean they only had aesthetic donations for like majority of the time and switched to adding more donates after the community requested for it.
^ this

Yeh. What also impressed me a lot was the way players were included in almost every decision about changing/implementing stuff. If there was an idea or a suggestion of change, go for the forums, open a topic and let people discuss it. If majority was for it, it got implemented/changed. I have seen servers being runned by the ideas of the admins only (RaijeRO), I have seen compromisses (CadoRO), but I haven't experienced a server fully community driven like this yet. Democracy. Hell, yeah. And I love it.

Quote@topicstarter: People will always moan if they are in the minority and lost a vote. But do you leave your home and country because your favorite party wasnt elected? (oke, according to whats going on in USA with Trump, uhm.... xD but thats OT). Accept it as it is, or go your way, RO always has been like this. Nobody forces you to stay. Midrates those days allow people to actually leave, because its so fkin easy to reproduce progress on another server. So whats your reason of this tread here?

The community I have encountered so far is 85% non toxic and friendly. Sure, there is some drama (who doesnt love it?) sure there is the usual WoE-Aftershowparty (trashtalk), but after over 10 years of RO? Gettin used to it. Btw on that "community" thingy: A few days ago me and my guildies were talking a bit about Daifuku and we came to the conclusion: While Nihad is doing the technical stuff (cauz he is amazing at it), Daifuku takes care about the community itself. The way she is talking / interacting with the players, dealing with drama, dealing with problems or dealing with douchebags. Reading here that she is working to improve the community of another server? I am not surprised. She is simply excellent at it. Daifuku, Pleahse, do it! Because you fight against the waves of flaming/ranting/ spoon fed kids who are just too lazy to socialise / put effords in a free game.
QuotePeople tend to not understand you help each other in RO Scene, while they commonly abandon good servers people put their hearts into to play on a 0815 money making server.
^ this. RO is a dying game. Instead of this tread there should be more love between servers and collaboration going on (like Daifu did with Nihad, does with that other server) to create what this whole was made for: "RO EXPERIENCE". And do you know for who it is? For us. We get it. For free. We dont even need to pay for it. Did you all forgot about this already? :/

I have been a server administrator myself, also with the intention to add something new to the big pot of ideas. Back in 2012, it was BitRO, a try to create a no-rebirth Server (like Sarah Server today doing successfully). Why it died? Because people didnt differ between "true love for an idea/ RO" and "Oh I wanna become a server owner and make cash". I sacrificed a lot for this idea and saw it dying, so I know what Im talking about. It made me sad that time, that people dont work together on ideas to push out something outstanding, and instead fight a concurrence over numbers of players. And it just makes me sad, that nothing changed since back then.

Okay, all stories should come to an end, so does mine. ElariaWoonRO is worth it and I believe in its future. Wont simply leave because of hard times, and I have my reasons for that. If ElariaWoon would do fishy things, that would be something else, but they don't. The Admins do their best that we lousy unthankful players can spend hours over night to make friends and pvp woe or whatever s*** you do in RO. FOR FREE. Fks sake. Be thankful. Or go play CS GO.

ElariaRO

@Artemsis - Thank you so much for your kind words. I had tears in my eyes when I first read it, just didn't had the time to reply to it yet.
I'm glad that some people see how much effort we put into all of this.
QuoteDaifuku, Pleahse, do it! Because you fight against the waves of flaming/ranting/ spoon fed kids who are just too lazy to socialise / put effords in a free game.
/kis /kis /kis /kis /kis /kis

I'm so happy to have you and your friends on the server!

Develon

#32
Daifuku, which I assume ElariaRO's user definitely one of the best and chillest GM's i've had the pleasure to meet and whip me into shape.

Yet, I would suggest heading over to their forums to see what is actually going on.

BestPlayerEver

And there it goes.

Now if people listened to me, they could of saved a few hundred hours of grinding for this server.

People seem to think just because the server was run out of passion, that it's a good server.

Which server is everyone gonna waste their time on next? I bet everyone is on AbraRO. Its funny how players complain about Cookie/Yrvine yet you guys all knowingly flock to their servers. I mean, if I could host a server, I'd abuse the retarded RO community too.

ElariaRO

Quote from: Develon on Apr 09, 2017, 12:42 AM
Daifuku, which I assume ElariaRO's user definitely one of the best and chillest GM's i've had the pleasure to meet and whip me into shape.

Yet, I would suggest heading over to their forums to see what is actually going on.

Thanks Develon!
Yeah the server went struggle-mode after I left for my trip to Japan. But I am back now, I'll see what the current state of the server is and if we can still work with it.


Develon

ahk farming for life

Oldschooler

Lol, it's funny how time showed the truth. I told you that you should probably stop advertising until you're fully committed. All this back and forth bsing and yet you even said yourself that you're not committed anymore.

Just saying, don't be fooled by thinking that you're the reason the server stayed alive this long. People are just being nice. The reason the server died was because there was no active GM. Period. You just happened to be that inactive GM.

If anything, I'm an Elaria supporter but if s*** is s***, I'm gonna call it out. I hope you guys do it right this time. Then people like Kris and I can stop trolling forums and start playing. Sure as hell not going to Yrvine's s***.

Kris

2k21 Return

Franky4Fingers

Just to add one note about Daifuku, from the few conversations we had together, I can vouch for her. Dedicated and passionate. It's sad that quality servers don't get the attention they deserve.

Show-time

We heard this was coming already. They should of taken off nihad from the admin straight up.

ShawnPorter

Quote from: BestPlayerEver on Jan 12, 2017, 01:14 PM
3pps were active only once you realized your server was a complete bust. You didn't listen to the community when they were willing to give you a try.

You guys literally ignored every single cry from the community asking for it to be allowed. You thought "hey, im gonna try and cater this server towards the 10 random new players that are new to RO that will join."

I mean, your server population speaks for itself. Pray that RoM dies and you manage to steal some players.

Peace

Yeah now they are not even turning online or updating the server.. Better to shut down than giving players false hopes.

ElariaRO

Quote from: ShawnPorter on Apr 24, 2017, 02:48 AM
Yeah now they are not even turning online or updating the server.. Better to shut down than giving players false hopes.

Also last update was just a few days ago aswell: http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/2001-20170416-changelog/#comment-15114
So, please just stop talking trash - thanks.

Son Bokutia

Recently joined this server because it was in the top 10 or something..

Anyways, after hearing, reading about all the stuff that is going on with this server, and talking to the leftover community, I think we can make the server fun again.

The community that is still active is extremely friendly and helpful and already made me want to stay and try to get the population growing.

I probably don't know half of what happened in the past but as a new player, I can say it is worth it!

Bottles

I have played on the server since it had opened, and planned to continue until I read this thread. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/

It honestly sounds like you are blaming the players for what had recently happened, unfortunately I disagree. It's not the players fault(nor was it our idea, suggestion, or plan) to implement an event that wipes the server. On top of that no one saw a staff member for weeks following the implementation of this event. Not to say it's every staff members fault for being absent, I can understand Daifuku's irl predicament. However the staff that did have it implemented(while dai was gone) didn't respond to it for weeks despite the loss in players(2/3 of the pop.) and the complaints in game/forums. To only turn around and blame the players after all of what happened, to me, is irresponsible. In fact, if they had maintained their previous server's setup(just before the wipe) there would be only 10-30 total players. Yet after they began accepting suggestions the server began climbing in numbers. It's like Nihad is John DeLorean except angrier at the people for not buying his weird car

ElariaRO

Quote from: Bottles on Apr 24, 2017, 12:18 PM
I have played on the server since it had opened, and planned to continue until I read this thread. http://board.playelaria.com/index.php?/topic/1997-news-future-of-the-server/

It honestly sounds like you are blaming the players for what had recently happened, unfortunately I disagree. It's not the players fault(nor was it our idea, suggestion, or plan) to implement an event that wipes the server. On top of that no one saw a staff member for weeks following the implementation of this event. Not to say it's every staff members fault for being absent, I can understand Daifuku's irl predicament. However the staff that did have it implemented(while dai was gone) didn't respond to it for weeks despite the loss in players(2/3 of the pop.) and the complaints in game/forums. To only turn around and blame the players after all of what happened, to me, is irresponsible. In fact, if they had maintained their previous server's setup(just before the wipe) there would be only 10-30 total players. Yet after they began accepting suggestions the server began climbing in numbers. It's like Nihad is John DeLorean except angrier at the people for not buying his weird car

There have been mistakes from both sides.
I think the biggest one from my side was the lack of communication within the staff and the community while I was gone.
Maybe I should've planned things better and searched for a few more dedicated staff member to take care of the server during the time.
But what's done is done. All I can do now is to re-build the server once again since giving up is not my strength. :)
Maybe, someday people will come back - and if not, at least I can't blame myself for abandoning the server or shutting it down out of no where like other server owner do.